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  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/16/2008 12:35:38 PM



    John McCain once had the most powerful brand in American politics.

    He was often called the country's most popular politician and widely admired for his independent streak. It wasn't too many years ago that "maverick" was the cliche of choice in describing him.

    But that term didn't even make the list this year when voters were asked by the Pew Research Center to sum up McCain in a single word. "Old" got the most mentions. The words "independent," "change" or "reformer" weren't among them.

    Voters have notoriously short memories, but it could be argued that McCain cheapened his own brand.

    He embraced President Bush and attempted to become, like Bush, the choice of the Republican establishment. In the process, he helped obliterate recollections of his first run for president, when he became the first Republican in a long time with strong crossover appeal to independents and Democrats.

    Losing his reputation for independence could prove particularly costly this year.

    The current campaign environment is among "the worst in modern history for Republicans," McCain campaign manager and super lobbyist, Rick Davis said recently.

    Simply driving up turnout by the Republican base - a strategy good enough to win the past two presidential elections - won't work as long as Democrats continue to hold a double-digit advantage in party identification.


    • Posted By: Nins @ 06/16/2008 12:46:58 PM

      You are absolutely right, Driver.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/16/2008 12:46:27 PM

    Dear One, I agree with you about the horrible social conditions in Iran. I have two things to say about that. One is, Americans need to be VERY CAREFUL not to let the religious right wing take over the Supreme Court, considering that Iran shows you what it really looks like when a nation fails to separate church and state. The second point is that WE, the USA, put those nut jobs in power by placing the Shah in power then controlling his government as a puppet, which infuriated the Iranian people. The Iranian people rebelled against such imperialism, and in the middle of this secular political rebellion, the Ayatollahs seized power. Not to mention the very cogent fact that WE, the USA, gave Iran their first nuclear reactor. Oh, yeah. We forgot all about that. Now we are threatening to bomb them for possessing technology that WE gave them?

    And what is all this nonsense about Iran attacking Israel? Iran has been at war with Iraq for decades, and never succeeded in even taking over a neighboring province. How are they going to fight a long distance war with Israel? Iran does NOT have significant military force to back up a nuclear strike, even if it were stupid enough to indulge in one, even if it already had the warheads, which it does not.

    And ask yourself, who has strengthened the religious fanatics that control Iran? The USA. First, we give them nuclear power, then we set up conditions for the Ayatollahs to seize power, then we plunge Iraq into civil war and destroy Iraq's infrastructure, which effectively disables Iran's greatest enemy. Furthermore, Bush refuses to have diplomatic relations, only worsening the situation. And McCain threatens to bomb Iran, which is even stupider (and much more real) than Iran threatening to bomb Israel. We have no one but ourselves to blame for the horrible situation in the middle east.

    VOTE FOR OBAMA to end all this needless drama.

  • Posted By: jeff7915 @ 06/16/2008 11:55:23 AM

    Back to the tired issue of age again, huh? Liberal supreme court justices Ginsberg (77 years old) and Stevens (88 years old) need to go. If you're going to discriminate because of age then be consistent. Plus McCain never mentioned traveling to 57 states like Nobama did. (Google or Youtube for video). If a Republican said what Barry said it would have been all over the news for years to come. Plus Nobama is the one who looks completely lost and feeble-minded without a prompter to read from. He's nothing but a talking suit.

    • Posted By: OldGamer007 @ 06/16/2008 12:15:13 PM

      The majority of people who are complaining about McCain's age, are seniors. Speaking of feeble-minded, what's the difference in a Sunni and Shiite? And which one does Iran support?

  • Posted By: ploughman @ 06/16/2008 11:59:24 AM

    Just don't do the Viagra ads, John...

    A Karl Rove swift-boat strategy against McCain would be to try to gin up "concerns" about the torture experience affecting temper, judgment and overall stability. Throw in the first-wife bit (Ross Perot still has an axe to grind over that) and then a bit of ageism and it's all hopefully something that gets avoided. It may sound odd to say, but McCain may well have faced a nastier campaign in 2000 than he gets from Obama.

    OTOH, if either candidate opens up a 10+ point lead you can expect the other to be pressured to go very negative. The 1988 campaign was a real lesson in that.

    In the end, I think any risks with Obama are preferable to the far more certain risk of McCain being too much like Bush. He could easily nominate the fifth Supreme Court vote against Roe v. Wade and he's guaranteed to get in the way of any meaningful change on health care.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/16/2008 10:49:25 AM



    Johniie Midnight has flip-flopped (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9000.html) on nearly every issue. He has betrayed nearly every principle has ever had. No one knows where he really stands on any of the issues. The two perfect examples are torture and immigration. Senator McCain had been against torture his whole life, for very good reason, until recently when he voted to allow the CIA to torture detainees (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_276.php). He was for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers, until he said he would vote against his own bill (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/30/video-mccain-says-he-wont-sign-his-immigration-bill/) on that issue.

    His positions are both ever-changing and indefensible at the same time. And they are made less defensible every day that he flips and flops them. It's bad enough to be the pro-torture candidate, but when you're the lying pro-torture candidate, that's tough to swallow.

    Plus, he is against 80% of the people in the country on the Iraq War (that's the percentage that want to leave Iraq in two years, whereas McCain says he will stay at least through 2013 when his first term ends). He is running based on experience when everyone wants change. And he doesn't even have his own side excited by his candidacy.

    LWOL
    Ha Ha Ha Ho Ho Ho He He He

    "McCain't and isn't able to Govern" is a mere mirage of himself

    Extend the PAIN with your vote for Mccain

  • Posted By: mlbuie @ 06/16/2008 10:39:18 AM

    Wesley Clark, VP
    Colin Powell, Sec Defense
    Joe Biden, Sec State
    John Edwards, Attorney General
    ....
    They need to put me on the vetting team! ;~D

    www.ExpressMyOpinion.org

  • Posted By: Pub17 @ 06/16/2008 10:15:47 AM

    HolyRoller-"He (McGovern) had huge leads in the polls"? You WEREN'T there, were you? How disappointing.

  • Posted By: schratboy @ 06/16/2008 10:06:28 AM

    Another pathetic Snewsweek hit piece.

  • Posted By: Tut_Aint_Cummin @ 06/16/2008 3:16:36 AM

    If a mindless war, US$9 Trillion national debt, a recession, high un-employment and the impending Medicare and Social Security crisis ahead does not make some of you people stop and think, then what will it really take? I wonder what some of you would be saying if this was a Democratic Administration? Bill Clinton got a blowjob and the Republicans who went ballistic are somehow indifferent to the many failings of this Bush Administration. Why?

    We are spending US$700 Billion annually to import oil. Here is this administation's energy
    policy..http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Hybrid/story?id=97505

    Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel ....Samuel Johnson

  • Posted By: Emiatx @ 06/16/2008 2:15:19 AM

    Well, Tigrrrl, wingnuts don't sleep.

  • Posted By: Tigrrrl @ 06/16/2008 1:42:59 AM

    I see the wingnuts are out.

  • Posted By: joe1022joe @ 06/16/2008 12:23:17 AM

    Barak Hussein Obama: the next president of Burundi.

  • Posted By: Art D @ 06/16/2008 12:20:42 AM

    Lets wait until McCain's suicide attempt comes to light. We have brave soldiers coming home with very serious post traumatic stress disorder after one tour in Iraq. Don't you think our hero has issues from being tortured in a VC prison for five years? Talk about Manchurian canidate. Or how about railing against lobbyists yet his campaigne is run by lobbyists still. Obama will try stop negative campaigning others will surely bring some of this stuff up. The gloves will come off. The Dems have learned well from the Republic party.

  • Posted By: Tommypie @ 06/16/2008 12:18:44 AM

    McCain is no Bob Dole, although the media will, in order to promote Obama, make McCain look like a bumbling Dole, falling off the stage, s he did when he ran for thesident. McCain will have to find a way to prevent the media from making him look like a Dole clone. They are already trying to make him look like a Bush clone. McCain is his own man, with his own views, policies and plans. Besides, Obama is very young to be president. He apparently has very lofty views of himself, and being black, one does not dare say anything negative about him withour being labeles "racist". And he knows that. He is too thin-skinned to be president. His wife has chosen to speak up on various issues, but according to Obama, those who criticise her are "leave his wife alone", as he says. Why is that? She is fair game since she is injecting her views into the process.. If she wants to be left alone, I suggest she'd keep her mouth shut. The media will do their darndest to get him into the White House. Obama is hardly dry behind his ears, with ver little experince. How in the world can a man like him run this country? He is not prepared for the high office of the presidency.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/15/2008 11:47:11 PM

    For the obamamohammeds who don't want to believe that the BarackStar's NASTY reputation will be aired. Here is the National Press Clubs calendar for Wed. 6/18. Start crying, cause this is just getting started. Check the 3:00 booking. Gonna be hilarious.

    ......DAYBOOK: June 18, 2008

    All Events Meetings
    Luncheons Newsmakers News Confs


    8:00 AM Government Executive
    Meeting Ballroom

    9:00 AM CSCMP's State Report
    Meeting Holeman Lounge

    9:30 AM Research on Boomers
    News Conf First Amendment Lounge

    10:00 AM Quinnipiac Univ. Poll
    News Conf Zenger Room

    10:00 AM Climate / Health Patterns
    News Conf Murrow Room

    12:00 PM WAPA
    Lunch Zenger Room

    12:00 PM American Antitrust
    Meeting Ballroom

    12:00 PM Sergey Stanishev
    NPC Newsmaker Broadcast Center Studio A

    12:00 PM History Committee
    NPC Meeting Mezzanine

    2:30 PM Is McCain Accountable
    News Conf Murrow Room

    3:00 PM Larry Sinclair on Obama
    News Conf Holeman Lounge

    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/15/2008 11:14:07 PM

    John has more of those BIG BLUE VITAMINS in his bag of tricks than Dole had. Sorry Mr. Dole, but it's true, hehe. I use them too! Keeps me and the misses happy! LMAO!

    Go McGame!!!!! Put Sen McGreen to shame!!!

  • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/15/2008 8:52:34 PM

    ******** NEWS FLASH! *******

    Geo-Elitist have new plan for the future:

    John McGame in '08

    and

    Hillary '12


    **Sorry BO Kool-Aid drinkers, time to remove the bibs, wipe away the drool, and face reality! LMAO!!!!

  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/15/2008 11:46:01 AM

    There is no comparison between Dole's war record and McCain's. I'm sorry, but I can't see McCain as a war hero. In his autobiography, John McCain admits to collaborating with the enemy while he was a POW. Me personally, I do not hold this against him. Lord knows what a person will do when tortured. But collaborating with the enemy is considered TREASON, and while I am willing to forgive McCain on a personal level, I am NOT willing to elect a President who has committed treason.

    Worse than the treason itself (which happened under extreme duress) is the fact that McCain blocked a bill to allow families of POWs and MIAs to gain access to their loved one's military records. This bill passed the House of Representatives with an overwhelming bi-partisan 100% of the Representatives voting in favor of it. It then was sent to the Senate, but it never reached the Senate floor, because John McCain killed it in committee.

    McCain says that his reason for opposing this bill was because "There were no POWs left behind in Vietnam." Even if this is true (and that is a big if), McCain's reasoning is specious. His excuse does not address the MIAs, or the the fact that the families of both the POWs and the MIAs wanted access to their loved one's records for personal and sentimental reasons, to help them heal and grieve. During the committee hearings, John McCain's angry badgering reduced a mother of a MIA to tears on national TV. He actually was calling her names and telling her she would never, ever see her son's file.

    Why would McCain do such a thing? Why would he refuse to allow families access to the loved one's records? Why would he kill a compassionate bill in committee, never letting it reach the floor? It is because he knew that if he allowed that bill to go to a vote it surely would have passed, and then HIS military records would be open to public scrutiny, and the world would have cold hard facts about exactly how much he collaborated with the enemy.


    Check out this website for more information:

    http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/15/2008 5:41:32 PM

      What up LIAR??? Miss me?

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/14/2008 9:42:28 PM

    I loved Bob Dole and voted for him in 1996. But I see a huge difference between Dole and McCain. For starters, Dole was a gentleman and a nice guy who didn't have a foul temper. Also, Dole was a deep thinker, whereas McCain's politics have been motivated by a mixture of personal malice and political expediency.

    McCain got unfairly swift boated by Bush when they ran in 2000. The great Texas Republican political machine laid McCain to waste, and McCain was mad as hell. He started voting against the party line and against Bush. He suddenly supported abortion rights, opposed the Bush tax cuts, co-sponsored a patient's bill of rights with Kennedy and Edwards, and got on the environmental bandwagon with John Kerry. He called Jerry Falwell "an agent of intolerance." My gosh, he actually tried to crack down on gun shows in legislation he put forth with then-Democrat Joe Lieberman. And in 2001, when Senator Jeffords of Vermont switched from Republican to Independent in an effort to counteract Bush's stranglehold on the Senate, McCain announced that he was considering becoming a Democrat, and went into a pow-wow with Senator Tom Daschle at his Sedona ranch. And did you know that John Kerry floated the idea of having McCain as his VP in '04? That was to have cemented his status as a newly-minted Democrat.

    But instead of joining Kerry, McCain suddenly switched his affiliation, came out in support of Bush in '04, and jettisoned his liberal image. Suddenly, it was the "old" McCain from the 1980s back in the saddle, the neo-conservative, take no prisoners Creationist. Against abortion. For the war. The SAME man who opposed a Federal amendment banning gay marriage and openly met with gay groups now was pushing a gay marriage ban in Arizona. The SAME man who said in 1999 that he was opposed to overturning Roe vs. Wade, now suddenly in 2007 is promising that he will stack the deck in the Supreme Court with religious right judges and overturn Roe vs. Wade.

    But the religious right isn't so sure about him. He's supported so many different opposing positions at so many times, that they are afraid that they are getting played in the name of McCain's political expediency. Senator Dole never did any of these things.

    You don't have to take my word for this. Watch news clips of McCain talking about the same issues in different years, which proves what I have written. Get on the Straight Talk Express and get it straight from the horse's mouth:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs&feature=related

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