In Crisis

the strugle that is going today in turkey is very simple to me ,it is the strugle for independent turkey , strong in every aspect ,militarily ,economicly ,tru world power.This is what erdogan wants.And what generals want is a week turkey dependent from USA and izrael and other jewish lobies that are active in turkey today and in recent history of modern turkey.The turkish poeple has always been clever in recognazing who is the enemy of turkey and who loves it.The story of islamist and bla bla bla is just the a great lye of those who are against turkey as a super power tudayis hadscarf tomorow somethig else,but those days are all over turkey is destined to win this game which has comed at end and no general or laicist or no enemy of turkey more properly said can reverse the victory.The enemies of great turkey are dying inside and outside of turkey

After WW2, the then "Nazionale Führer" of Turkey (Milli Sef in Turkish), Gen. Ismet Inonu and his political party (the only one permitted at the time) CHP was forced to introduce "democracy" to his country. Otherwise Stalin was going to get permission from his allies to invade the Eastern part of Turkey. It was a smart move for him to side with US and UK to save land, but in the meantime he lost the first free elections in the 2000 year-long Turkish history, held in 1950.
Since that time, CHP and some generals whose minds CHP had corrupted, staged four military coup d'etats, in 1960, 1971, 1980 and 1997, respectively. They even hanged the first elected leader in Turkish history, Mr. Adnan Menderes right after their first coup.
However, after each coup the junta had to hold a free election eventually and the people voted for a successor party and leader who were despised even more by the CHP and the corrupted bureucrats.
It seems that this "game" will go on as is, until one of the sides surrender: either the people will surrender to the wishes of CHP and the country will become a "single-party, single Führer democracy (!)" like in North Korea, or the bureucrats will surrender to the free-elections of the people so that the country will become democratic like in EU.
There does not seem to be any other way.

The author' perception of Turkey and Turkish society are in great discrepancy. Who is democrat and who is totalitarian are all mixed and replaced. Saudi oriented religious policies are intended to be implemented in Turkey. Democracy and political islam can not come together. In order to prosper one of them the other one must be diminished. Democracy is their Troy Horse. Constitutional powers will protect the Nation.

Comment: "47 percent of Turks, in last summer's poll, and probably more today"
Not more, I hope.
I'm Turkish, I'm living in Turkey and i know well that, our Prime Minister is a traitor.
We will follow in Atatürk's wake, we are Kemalist. I know that, Turkey will be a respectable country, without AK
Party :)
"Turban" isn't freedom for women. "Freedom for turban" is an attack of laicism, but we are still here. We will encourage our country, our laicism and our Republic. We are still loving Mustafa Kemal ..
*I'm sorry, I couldn't speak English well (I'm just 16) :)

Will the Turks stand up for the constitution? We would, but, if the Constitution Court does its job and fines AKP we might not have to.

I think women with headscarf should be allowed to universities. However, the part that covers the headscarf issue is only small piece of the 160-plus-page indictment in the case against AKP. The rest of the indictment should be more than enough to make the case against AKP. AKP has an agenda that is religion-based. Most people know this in Turkey. The half of the country has been against Erdogan and Gul since the day they started their political career by attacking democracy, secularism and Ataturk (following Newsweek??? logic, we have 35 million elite bureaucrats).

If the Constitution Courts fails to uphold the Constitution despite the fact that AKP has always had a religious agenda, then we Turks will stand up for the Constitution (we can set a good example for the liberal Americans; they have failed to stand up for their constitution when Bush administration breached it and wire-tapped its citizens). I know the Turkish military is secular but if they broker a deal with pro-sheria AKP, like the democratic congress did with Bush administration, we would stand up against the Generals (hopefully it is an impossible scenario).

If/when we stand up for the Constitution and secularism, AKP would send its troops (police force headed by AKP puppets). Would seeing us welcoming the police stick to our faces be enough for Newsweek to drop the ???elite establishment??? cliché or would it keep going ???Fox News??? on us secular Turks?

9 out of 11 judges of the current Turkish constitutional court was elected by the last president who was a clear supporter of the current opposition party (even though he should have been neutral and not have expressed his political views due to the position he held during his term). So, based on his political views, it is easy to guess the political views or at least tendencies of these recently appointed judges.
The two clearly biased decisions made recently by the same constitutional court judges regarding the last presidential election and the effort to give more freedom to women who choose to wear head scarves and attend universities for higher education, give us a very clear signal about the outcome of AK Party closure trial. Justice is about being fair for all not being more fair to a specific group of people. ;-)
I hate to write this but unfortunately I do not expect a fair decision coming out of the current constitutional court.

"All Turks want is peace and prosperity" Yet another arrogant assumption about Turks. Peace and prosperity is fine but it is not all we want. First and foremost we Turks want a rock solid independent secular democracy (in the meantime AKP, democrat only to themselves, undermines secualrism). We want better scientific education (AKP tries to remove evolution theroy from the curriculum). We want women participate in every aspect of the society (female participation in academy, employment and politics has significantly decreased during AKP rule). We want equal opportunity (it is very difficult to get a government project or job unless your wife is covered and you have an almond mustache). We want a lot Grenville -we are a greedy lot. We want to be able to criticize the government (three high profile opponents -a journalist, a dean and a politician- of AKP has been recently arrested). We want to be able to caricaturize politicians (AKP is dedicated to every cartoonists on the land). We want a lot Grenville ???we are a greedy lot.

"So far, the Turks are not headed for the streets." Is this a joke? Millions of people have headed for the streets for so many times over the last couple of years protesting AKP and its religious agenda. AKP's response has always been to downplay or intimidate the dissent. It is neither generals nor the beurucrats it is us ordinary Turks who are EXTREMELY worried about our future under AKP rule. Erdogan had once said "if the majority wants we will even bring sheria" . I say "even if you have 90% of the vote it will not happen. Erdogan & Co are not new in Turkish politics. We have known them for many years. It is easy to dupe people who do not have the time to follow what's going on but everybody with a little interest in politics know who they are.

You and the liberal flakes like you are insane if you think you can allow religious fanatics to have any say in government. The Turks know a lot better than you that this is a world war against fanaticism. Maybe when it's the bodies of your children burning in the streets you'll figure it out.

I wonder if a coup over headscarves is as insane as a war over a soccer game.

The opponents in this controversy both remind of that deathless address by the newly crowned Austro-Hungarian Emperor in the mid 1840s:

"I am the Emperor! And, I want dumplings!"

what the hell are you guys talking about? We want Secular states. That's what we're looking for.

As a Turkish citizen I support the headscarve ban in universities, thus i support the court's decision on this matter. I also started to believe that USA is pushing for the islamization of Turkey so that they can find an excuse to invade our country in the future. Iran is such an example.

As long as WE are willing to do the dead to OWN yet another Cuntry in the region. ya they face a coup, but not to the people delight? we only wish to crush, kill, destroy! even if the people will do it for peace! WE will install the Generals! so the people ain't happy, but the new threat they bring, will keep us in the region, to kill the peacefull Turks!