Comment: As usual the Democrat party has it wrong. They were against civil rights for blacks in the 60's but today they are pushing for acceptance and civil rights for a depraved sexual perversion called homosexuality.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
DON'T BE G A Y.
Comment: I think gays should be given certain rights that married couples receive. But Marriage is simply between a man and women. That is the definition of it and just because some may feel it is wrong doesn't mean you can simply change the definition of a word. Rights with civil unions and domestic partnerships should be expanded not the extension of marriage to gay couples.
Comment: This is not a civil rights issue. It's a acceptance of a sexual depravity issue.
Comment: It's really interesting to watch America and to see that in the same country there are two different forces pulling this country apart. With the election from Barack Obama you take a step forward into a positive future but on the other side you go back and act conservative. I am really sorry for the gay people in America. I am happy that our gays in Europe can marry each other and have at least the same rights like married peope.
Comment: Don't worry perverts, the Democrats are in power now and they are gay for gay marriage.
You'll soon be able to force your depravity down our throats.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
DON'T BE GAY
Comment: Answer to the question ....England, like me and my usa partner. USA its your loss
Comment: as the joke goes gay people should have the right to live in bored shallow unfaithful misery just like str8 people
Comment: When we deny equal rights to one group we may it easier to deny them to another and another. It wasn't that long ago that interracial marriages were condemned as being against God and nature. Who are we to judge. Maybe I read a different bible, mine judgement "Judgement is mine saith the Lord" and "judge not lest ye be judged". We are born who we are. I did not choose to be a straight, white woman- my neighbor did not choose to be a gay man, my friend did not choose to be black, my co-worker did not choose to be hispanic. I do CHOOSE to support the rights of ALL people to live their lives with dignity and peace and love.
Comment: one more thing- if a religion wants to define marriage differently than the law, that's fine with me. I got married legally, not in a church, and that is the right that I am defending for everyone here. I leave the religious battles to others...anyone who voluntarily joins a church should expect to abide by its tenets. But we all belong to civil society, and we should remember that- emphasis on CIVIL.
Comment: It seems to me that the only threat to my marriage would be me or my husband. No one else's marriage affects mine. It was my honor to volunteer as a deputy marriage commissioner in SF this summer, and after experiencing firsthand the joy and depth of emotion, as well as the gratitude of couples who were finally able to marry (one of my couples had been together for 28 years!) I don't think anyone would begrudge this fundamental right to our fellow humans.
Comment: This subject is outrageous! How dare anybody tell me how to live my life!!! People who are anti-same sex marriage are ignorant... I mean come on, do we tell them who to marry, who to like, what religion to carry on? Of course not! So they should start minding their own damn business and start laying off on this emotional carriage. I cannot imagine how far we have come from the african americans to the women to become free in this country, that now we have to characterize gay and lesbian couples as defaulting the American race... Just plain outrageous!!! I certainly support same sax marriage even though I am straight.... And its sad to see how many Americans dont join this cause.
Comment: Man, that's rough! I always thought we were more progressive than that. Not being gay I guess I never noticed how intolerant our nation still is. With all the sensationalism in the media I thought half the country had legalized gay marriage by now. Well, not all heterosexuals are homophobic. You have my support. Hopefully that map will turn green over the next decade.
Comment: Man Joe you sure are homophobic. What are you scared of if you know that you are 100% heterosexual homosexuality shouldn't scare you so bad. I
Comment: This is just sick. It's depraved sexual behavior and it's promotion by the Democrat party and the press is deplorable.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
DON'T BE GAY.
But if you do vote for a Democrat expect more of this depravity.
Comment: Homosexuality is a depraved sexual behavior and as such deserves no special rights.
Comment: wHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HETEROSEXUALS ENGAGING IN IMMORRAL ACTS? aLL OF THIS MESS ON TV THESE DAYS, ISN'T HELPING OUR CHILDREN TO BECOME MORAL CITIZIENS OF THE U.S.. i AM A DEMOCRAT AND I AM NOT GAY. i DON'T BELIEVE THAT GOD CONDONES SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT GOD DOESN'T CONDONE ALL OF THIS SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE. wHERE ARE THE UPROARS ABOUT SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE. wHEN YOOU LOOK AT IT, THAT'S THE UNDERLINE REASON WHY SOME PEOPLE FEEL THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGES ARE WRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE ENGAGING IN SEXUAL ACTS OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LEGALLY MARRY. IF WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE BIBLE TO GOVERN SOME OF OUR LIVES THEN WE MUST ALLOW IT TO GOVERN ALL OF OUR LIVES. WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE ANYONE? WHO GAVE US THAT RIGHT. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO OUR THOUGHTS, AND SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS.
Comment: Does it make people feel better when they insult others??? Is that a way to communicate?? What are you in kindergarten?
Comment: conservative latina sounds like she's frustrated b/c her own marriage is on the brinks...novel!
who are we to judge anyone else? last time I checked, no one could strike someone dead because they didn't take care of their children...
Comment: I don't comprehend how our country still allows people to prohibit marriage between two other people who truly care about each other. As a straight woman, I have no desire to wed anybody, but I have that option. I always think that if I would have been born into a gay world, I would not want anybody prohibiting me from marrying a boy. What makes us (straight people) think that we can prohibit the same for gays? Our country claims to be against discrimination, but it seems to me that it's all a farce.
Comment: and to add to my last comment. Heterosexual couples have a 60% divorce rate. I saw that was neglected in your arguements.
Comment: Being a gay male, I am strictly monogomous, I want to find a partner and live out my life in peace. Nothing more than that. I want the same rights as everyone else. If it bothers people to call it "marriage" than call it a civil union. We just want the same rights as everyone else. We're still people, and we deserve the same rights.
Comment: conservative latina said @ 10/08/2008 5:03:57 PM "I believe their [gay males] lifestyle demeans what marriage stands for..." Yes, heaven forbid committed gay couples have equal legal rights as straight couples. The sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage, for instance, would be destroyed. If you don't want all of the heterosexual world to be generalized in a demeaning way, do not do so to the homosexual world. And conservative Latina (such things exist?), perhaps the will of the majority ought to be enforced in each state. I???m sure many southern states would be happy to curtail the rights of your people, based on their majority opinion, right?
Comment: Gays and Lesbians have the freedom to live out their lifestyle as they wish. That does not mean that we , as heterosexual couples are going to "roll over" and stand by why the homosexual community wants to define a homosexual couple as "married". Marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman. Homosexual couples can not have children -- they are not defined as "families" but as "couples".
The fact remains that the majority of Americans do not accept homosexual couples as "married couples". It is wrong for the homosexual community to force their values on the rest of the nation.
Facts show that gay men are not monogomous..... an average gay man has many many partners in one year... much more than the heterosexual male. I believe their lifestyle demeans what marriage stands for.... and that is committment.
Comment: Hey Latina, I want to tell you this, since you obviously do NOT know. Heterosexual men have many sexual partners as do men in general gay OR straight. I was married to a man before I came out and starting living my real life as a gay woman and he cheated on me all the time until he finally got my best friend pregnant in my OWN house, so dont tell me about "marriage" and "families" and "commitment" being stronger in hetero relationships...you know nothing of what you speak. I have now been in a very strong, commited relationship with a wonderful NORMAL woman for five years...we are a great couple known by all who would make wonderful parents if we didnt live in this great but suffocating state of Oklahoma. Here in Okla. we could adopt because they made that legal but sadly people like you and the Christian right would tear our children apart and we dont want that for our kids....it would be different if they would have at the same time made gay marriage legal too. In order for our children (not so much us) to live a normal life, we will have to move to a different state leaving behind elderly parents etc. and that is a sad situation people like you enforce on other kind people like us. What if we did that to you because you were latino?
I dont know where you live or where you get that gay people can't have families or can't be families...I know a lot of gay people that have several children (that dont live here) and are very happy and stable and all of this has nothing to do with heteros "rolling over" or "standing by" and letting anything happen. If you knew me you would see that my values are probably a lot higher than your own.
Comment: Please tell us your source of your information, as we can all state sound bites to support opinions. Why are people so intimidated with the idea of "gay marriage"? All couples who live as family members, have children, set up a home together, etc deserve to be treated as well as I have been, as a married woman. Shame on people for judging what goes on in homes and in families. Is this really coming from people who believe that America is the greatest country in the world? You can't believe that America is the greatest if the rules and regulations don't apply to EVERYONE!!
Comment: THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS GAY FOR GAY MARRIAGE.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
DON'T BE GAY
Comment: Welcome to my world Joe!! You can get a rainbow sticker for your car at PFLAG :)
Comment: he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Comment: God loves everyone. Why should any human being have more or less legal rights than another?
Comment: People always talk about gay marriage as an "equal right". Gays have all the rights of straight couples. In other words, gays CAN marry just like I did. Gays choose a different path that is NOT marriage.. If you want all the rights (and responsibilities) of marriage, then get married (that requires an opposite sex partner by definition). If you chose a different living arrangement, then accept the consequences. Gays are like someone buying a dog and insisting that the rest of the world must accept it as a cat. You can howl all you want, but it won't change that marriage is the union of two DISSIMILIAR people, i.e. opposite sex.
Comment: The homosexual is an abomination. We can not have tax payers giving special benefits to those who live a sinful life.
Comment: There's nothing 'special' about the rights gays are seeking... it's just equal. I support the same rights for ALL Americans to marry the partner of their choice... either everyone gets it or take it away from everyone.
Comment: Amen Dawg....SavedGirl, do you think Jesus would "hate" and not want to "give equal rights" to other humans as you are wanting NOT to do? That's what I find so appauling about the Christian right...they think they are being so RIGHTEOUS when they hate this group and that group when Jesus and God are all about LOVE with NO exceptions! Yes, the Bible tells us to avoid certain behaviors but it NEVER tells us to hate people who sin or to not give them human rights but to LOVE them as you would yourself. It is not for us to judge what is the worst sin. Also, it's equal rights, you pay no extra taxes for that and I bet I pay more taxes than you do anyway.
Comment: It's special in that gays are involved in a depraved sexual practice. And they want to force people to accept this depraved behavior.
Comment: Every state where laws were passed to allow gay marriage was controled by the Democrats.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
DON'T BE GAY......
Comment: Hey sticks03, what do you care who is married to who? it does not effect you and I .. I happen to know many gay and lesbian people, some that I would trust more then a lot of the straight people,
Don't be so judgemental, be more open minded like I am... I do not mind that you are straight..
Comment: The instituiton of a family is in disaray already. The concept of marriage is beetween a Man and a Woman. Not between two men or two women.
Comment: The institution of the family is not in full force with same sex marriages. If a couple want to live together thats fine, but a marriage is set to be between a man and a woman.
Comment:
I like the Democrats non-discriminatory platform towards gay marriage. It's more progressiveand in line with the rest of the world and the majority of Americans. If gay people want to get married, why should the federal govenrment get in the way. If people want guns, why can't they get married or serve in the armed forces like they can in Europe? The whole Republican "Shove Mary Cheney in the Closet" mentality is such an embarrassing way to handle gay rights issues in this country!
Comment: If you don't like gay marriage, DON'T GET ONE. As much as the fundies hate it, this is one they are going to lose. People in the younger generations simply don't fear homosexuality as much as their narrow minded parents and grand parents, and one day, each and every one of those constitutional amendments in all of those states will fall, one by one. It may take a long time, but as an adult, the freedom to love and marry another adult of one's choosing will someday be a freedom everyone will enjoy.
Comment: I have never had a negative experience with openly gay men and women. It was the closeted condemning homophobe(men and women) that plagued us as kids. If it is out in the open I am unafraid. I can't imagine loving someone like I have loved the men in my life (I am a woman) and not be able to show affection, walk hand in hand or get married. It is so difficult to find love in this world, why limit love and it's capabilities?
Comment: I have never had a negative experience with openly gay men and women. It was the closeted condemning homophobe(men and women) that plagued us as kids. If it is out in the open I am unafraid. I can't imagine loving someone like I have loved the men in my life (I am a woman) and not be able to show affection, walk hand in hand or get married. It is so difficult to find love in this world, why limit love and it's capabilities?
Comment: Just look at the name Joe6pack...enough said.
Comment:
The Democrat party is gay for gay marriage.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
DON'T BE GAY
Comment: Seriously you need to get another thought in your head. All of the public figures that have been enbroiled in a Gay sex scandal have been Republicans. So again you are the one who is voting for Gays, and perhaps you are Gay yourself.
Comment: Maybe someday people will get a clue how skunk like gays are. And BTW, the gay agenda is in the Democrat platform including gay marriage. The Dems are riddled with gay cronyism.
VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY
Comment: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Are gay people less qualified than straight to enjoy liberty and the pursuit of happiness? And what about the separation of church and state? If various Christians don't wish to have gay marriage in their church, so be it. If a gay couple wishes to go to city hall and have their committed relationship recognized by the state, so be it. The state should be neutral regarding religious concerns and churches should do as they please without attempting to dictate to American society what American society should be. I have gay neighbors across the street and they are perfect neighbors and model citizens, and nice friendly people. I don't know whether they wish their union to be legally recognized or not, but I think they have the same rights under the constitution that I do. Why wouldn't they? And why would I or anyone else want to interfere in their lives by saying their relationship is less valid than my heterosexual one. I don't get it. Your faith is your faith, and that's the way it should be. Seems to me that moral high handedness is attempting to keep it's strangle hold on control, but control is slipping away and they don;t like it. Let people be who they want to be, so long as they don't interfere with your ability to do the same. That is what the USA is all about, or at least what it's supposed to be all about.
Comment: I I am sorry I do not want to be rude or uncivilized but the history of the Great Empires stand as a image of the future destruction. Why Old Roman Empire dessapeard or other great Empires ? The moral of these Empires was just an idea .... and when moral does not exist anymore then we can get married with everyone we want. In the next decade I am affraid that pedophils, necophils,zoophils will ask to give them same rights . My question is : are we have any support to allow this things ? God will judge America and the civilized world for not keeping the right way of moral live. This is going to be the Big End.
Comment: We can marry in Iceland, even in the state church.
Comment: I wouldn't call it a church since they go against the word of God.....
Comment: They can marry in Shanghai
Comment: There is a middle ground in this debate that no one is talking about.
The government shouldn't be defining what marriage is - the religious instituions should be. The United States wasn't concerned about marriage licenses and tracking unions until Social Security came around and spouses had to be verified for social security payouts, etc. To the government, historically, defining marriage was more about legal and property rights than giving validity to a religious institution.
So a solution could be that governments get out of defining marriage, instead, they define civil unions. Leave defining marriage to the religious institutions, so if you believe in gay marriage, then you can join a congregation that shares your views, etc.
So if two people are financially and legally dependent on each other, they should be able to enter into a civil union. It should have absolutely nothing to do with the nature of their relationship. If it's a mother and daughter that have lived together their entire lives, or a man and a women who do not want to get married in a church - whatever. I don't need the government to validate my marriage by calling it such - I just need its support in granting my husband legal and financial rights if something would ever happen to me. However, I know this will never happen - it makes way too much sense.
Comment: I think you make several valid points. I support equal treatment of all people under the law, regardless of if they are gay, straight or bisexual.
Comment: Indeed it does.
Comment: Hey Phoenix:
Are you from Phenix? I sold property out there for over 25 years.. I miss it, but I hear from a lot of my clients that stay in touch with me from Phoenix,, Not one of them ever cared that I was a lesbian.. It is about how you treat other people, not who you sleep with.
Comment: actually I don???t want post in here any more cuz I got the answer of my questions and I said what I want to say as a human being I respect same sex marriage but my opinions & ideas didn???t change
USA is a place where I love so much and even more than any where and I whish best for it .
ghostmasseur thank you for your responses.
Comment: actually I don???t want post in here any more cuz I got the answer of my questions and I said what I want to say as a human being I respect same sex marriage but my opinions & ideas didn???t change
USA is a place where I love so much and even more than any where and I whish best for it .
ghostmasseur thank you for your responses.
Comment: thank you very much for your helps but they didn???t improve me at all.
you must believe me that im not writing here to explain whats islam and tell people about my religious beliefs because there's so many other places to discuss that subject in and I also wrote my email address for any one who wants to learn more about{monogamy}in islam.
and yes {there has been a lot of violence in name of Islam} but they are absolutely wrong .
{"I,m 17 years old I think every one in my age just think about how to enjoy life but im not } im sure that you understood me wrong
let me tell you what I meant ok:
first I had to tell you that im different from them{other people in my age} cuz im spending most of my time think about other people not my self when I go to market to do shopping and buy new clothes or shoes I cant stop think about those poor people who also wants to buy new things but they cannot so because of that I regret buying any new thing and when im eating I cannot stop think abot poor people in Africa and the other hungry kids in any where when im sleeping I cannot stop think about those people who are sleep in streets , I want to help humanity I hate bloodshed and I love every people and I don???t care abut their religion, ,their race or nation I respect humanity so much.
and I have no idea you are black or white however im white but my point is: in my country and in my city the people call blacks ugly one day I watched tv with one of my relative when I said oh that black actress is so beautiful but she said ow I know you are kidding when I said im serious she said you are crazy . they so ugly and im afraid of them what she sais really hurt me cuz I love blacks so much and I see no different btw whites and blacks it???s a simple example I heard worse than it
I don???t know why but all the people around me think I don???t have to love Jews or Christians or any one out of my religion and they think about blacks really bad . but I cannot hate anyone and im really suffering from all those things
every day im listen to {heal the world}Michele Jacksons song and im crying so much because I think there's nothing in my hand to help humanity by , I cannot have a good life and enjoy my self in this world which is full of killing and bloodshed I want Pease in every where and I told you I understood you wrong when you wrote that {im making no sense}
every one like to enjoy life but as I told you b4 why I cannot do that
Comment: every one like to enjoy life but as I told you b4 why I cannot do that
and I don???t said vegetarians don???t like enjoying their life im talking just abut my self.
and I tell you one more time that I don???t want anyone or any thing hurt because of me and I never can go to zoo enjoying myself by watching those poor animals.
{ Every species of mammal (lions, bear, tigers, monkeys,dogs, cats, etc, ), in the wild hae homosexual parings. Two male}s of the species mount each other, and stay together.}I don???t have any knowledge about that.
and about your comment abut some don't eating meat because of personal health reasons yes in USA its right and among 200 people in US 5 of them are vegetarian that???s because theres to much heart diseases in US .
and for evidence I havent got a clear one but I asked some vegeterians who visited some place like India where 90% of them are vegetarian .
and im still a student and my subjects are very difficult I haven't got enough time to improve my English and there's no one to speak with me that???s why and maybe your comments about my english were right
I have got a question are you a religious person? is your religion allowed this marriage?
and I couldn???t understand last part of your comment I know you are university professor but after.
Comment: I never said that vegetarian do not enjoy thier lives. Just that you had written something that seemd to make a slight connection to it. I was trying to say that you needed to write a bit clearer.
Actually, it is estimated that in industrialized nations (North America, parts of South America, Europe) most of the people who are vegetarians do so at least partly for health reasons and not for philosophical reasons (hating bloodshed.) And it is not just because of heart disease.
I am no longer a religious person. And I no longer believe in god.
I was raised Jewish and there are some denominations of Judaism that now allow same-sex marriage.
The part of my post after I mentioned that I am a university profesor was that if you asked Sociology and ocial History professors they would tell you that marriage was not originally primarily about having children. It was about property rights. Children was secondary to that. That is why saying that since same-sex couples cannot have children (which is not true with todays artificial insemination and surrogate mothers) that they should not be able to get married is not a legitimate argument. That was my point.
Comment: Hello old friendenemy...... lol... are you still spouting out anti-God rhetoric? .... so tell me are the denominations of Judaism that allow same sex marriage are keeping with the Torah or the Oral Law?
So the professor have abandon the intent that God place on marriage and have supplanted their own idealism..... since the didn't event marriage I would assume that they cannot define the intent of marriage..... same sex couples cannot have children outside the normal use of a man or woman (the way that God intented it to be) so that bears a legitimacy to the argument that God's purpose of marriage trumps anyone's argument of who is and isn't a family.....
No I haven't forgotten that you no longer believe in God..... that is why you support these un-holy unions...
Comment: and I don???t care abut their religion, ,their race or nation I respect humanity so much.
and I have no idea you are black or white however im white but my point is: in my country and in my city the people call blacks ugly one day I watched tv with one of my relative when I said oh that black actress is so beautiful but she said ow I know you are kidding when I said im serious she said you are crazy . they so ugly and im afraid of them what she sais really hurt me cuz I love blacks so much and I see no different btw whites and blacks it???s a simple example I heard worse than it
I don???t know why but all the people around me think I don???t have to love Jews or Christians or any one out of my religion and they think about blacks really bad . but I cannot hate anyone and im really suffering from all those things
every day im listen to {heal the world}Michele Jacksons song and im crying so much because I think there's nothing in my hand to help humanity by , I cannot have a good life and enjoy my self in this world which is full of killing and bloodshed I want Pease in every where and I told you I understood you wrong when you wrote that {im making no sense
Comment: Didar,
I never said you that you had problem s with other religions, just that you had made a mistake about the timeline of Judaism's written texts.
Not that it matters, but I am white. Hopefully as you get older you will suffer less and develop the strength to help those in your country who oppose hatred and bigotry to win the fight for peace and humanity.
And when I said that you were not making sense, I was saying that based on what you wroteis was very hard to discern what your meaning was. It has taken time and many posts t figure out some of what you were trying to say.
Comment: thank you very much for your helps but they didn???t improve me at all.
you must believe me that im not writing here to explain whats islam and tell people about my religious beliefs because there's so many other places to discuss that subject in and I also wrote my email address for any one who wants to learn more about{monogamy}in islam.
and yes {there has been a lot of violence in name of Islam} but they are absolutely wrong .
{"I,m 17 years old I think every one in my age just think about how to enjoy life but im not } im sure that you understood me wrong
let me tell you what I meant ok:
first I had to tell you that im different from them{other people in my age} cuz im spending most of my time think about other people not my self when I go to market to do shopping and buy new clothes or shoes I cant stop think about those poor people who also wants to buy new things but they cannot so because of that I regret buying any new thing and when im eating I cannot stop think abot poor people in Africa and the other hungry kids in any where when im sleeping I cannot stop think about those people who are sleep in streets , I want to help humanity I hate bloodshed and I love every people
Comment: didar,
OK. I was just telling you how the conversation got to this point and why I made some of my posts.
Actually I did understand what you were saying , once you clarified why you had made certain comments. You are actually experiencing what many young people arind the world experience. It is not a bad thing. It is part of growing up and being acaring person. Many young people have a hard time enjoying themselves because they constantly think about those who have a harder life than they do, Right now it makes things very hard for you to do day to day things. Ass you get older, hopefully, you will still have that marvelous empathy, but realize that if you do not take care of yourself, you will not have the energy to help others.
Comment: you are really insist on your opinion about vegetarianism but im sorry to say that its wrong you must know about 50% or maybe more of vegetarians are not eating meat cuz of hating bloodshed ! and im sure about that /! can you proof what I said is wrong I know that better than you.
{ I understand that it is both your age and limited skills with the English language} I don???t understand what do you mean cuz I become 18 b4 2 days and knowledge have no relation with age!! and if you think that im a child or you want some one older than me to discuss this subject with you can stop your responses!!? and as I told you b4 my English is not perfect but I can exactly understand your comments.
and I asked you a question which I haven't get the answer yet do you think that the same sex marriage will be last for a long time.
{I am not gay. I am male and if and when I get married it will be to a woman} how come ? its strange!!
I cant believe ! so why do you post in here?/
but in one of your prior post you talked about gay and lesbian rights ,isnt ?
Having a baby is one of the main purpose of marriage in most of cultures it can be some other proposes with it also>! im not talking about my culture I lived with Turks, Iranians ,Arabs Indians and I also asked my relative who live in Europe about this question and I got same answer , ok.
and you wrote that having a baby has no effect on their relationship but how do you know that ?while you are not a gay?!!
and why do you answer my questions?
I really want to get the answers from a gay or a lesbian!.
you had to introduce your self as a defender buddy!.
tow wives or tow husbands its really funny. and which of the tow girls or boys ask for others hand in marriage and how,?! you get me?
""same-sex couplings and "pairings" do exist in the animal kingdom in every single mammalian species.what do you mean?in every singles ?are there any males in those kind of animals . and can you tell me what do you mean here: 1 Like it or not this is an English language board so the onus on making oneself clear lies with the writer not the reader.
2 I was trying to teach you to be careful how you write.
Comment: Didar,
I really am trying to teach you how to communicate in English so that in the future people will be able to understand you better.
You started on this board by trying to explain that Islam is a religion of love. Or more specifically, your view that that love comes from the family and that homosexuality is not consistant with the family.(Which at alter point I showed is not a valid assertion. And then you made the inccorect claim that both the laws in Judaism were written down well after the fact and that Islam was "more suited for modern life". That is where I came in to state that you were wrong about that claim. I also said that not ALL of Islam is suited for modern life, as is demonstrated by the Saudis and other fundamentalist Islamic states.
We went back and forth about that (the fact tht there has been a lot of violence doneinthe name of Islam) and a few other things and then you stated on 07/26/2008 07:07:20 that "I,m 17 years old I think every one in my age just think about how to enjoy life but im not
you tell me that I have no sense while I cant even eat any kind of meat{im vegetarian}" which had no seeming relevance to the discussion at hand. The fact that you cannot eat meat/are a vegetarian, was not relevant to how some (I never said ALL) of Islam behaves. You did not equate vegetarianism with not liking bloodshed at this time. You said that people your age "just think about how to enjoy life" but that you are not like that. THAT is when you first mentioned being a vegetarin. You equated bveing a vegetarian with not being like others your own age and "enjoying life". (Now personally I think that vegetarina are jsut a capable of enjoying life as meat eaters. Every vegetarian I know relly enjjoys their life.)
It wa later that you said that you meant that being vegetarin was because "I don't want anyone or anything hurt because of me".
My response to that was to point out that although that might be your reason (and maybe even is others people's reason for being vegetarian) that to assume that people would automatically make the link is not valid. THAT is when I pointed out that there are vegetarians (including Hitler) who have no problem with ALL bloodshed. And furthermore that not everyone who is vegetarian does so because they hate for anything to harmed for thier benefit. THAT is ALL that I was trying to teach you. That when you write you need to be more concise and really think out what you writing.
As a side point I think that you would find that more than 50% of non-vegetarian hate bloodshed (and war) too. It is just part of being a civilized human being.
Comment: My comment about having a baby having no effect on their relatuioins was in respone to your idea that having a baby is the main reason that one gets married. As I have shown that is not the truth. Of course having children effects a reltaionship if one wans children but that is no different for ANY couple whether they are gay or straight.
Actually I am under no obligation to introduce ,myslef as a defender. Just because one is ignorant in thinking that ONLY gays and lesbians would answer questions or support gay rights does nto men that othe posters should say "Oh i'm not gay I jsut defend them". That is asinine.
Your ignorance about how cuples ask each other to marry is pitiful. It really does not matter who asks or how. And yes it is two wives for lesbian couples and two husbands for gay couples. That is the way it is.
Every species of mammal (lions, bear, tigers, monkeys,dogs, cats, etc, ), in the wild hae homosexual parings. Two males of the species mount each other, and stay together.
Comment: Your belief that animals have homosexual pairings is pitiful.....
Dr. Antonio Pardo, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Navarre, Spain, wrote:
??? Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction.[3]
For example, every cattle farmer is familiar with the phenomenon of "bulling," cows mounting other cows; in fact, this is one of the standard signs farmers look for when determining that a cow is coming into estrus. However, it does not follow that the cows involved are showing anything analogous to human lesbian orientation.
In respect to the homosexuality in animals myth, there is currently interest on whether homosexual behavior is or is not zoologically "natural." This is largely a sterile debate because behavior is not necessarily moral even if "natural;" because the nature of human beings is not necessarily the same as the nature of other species, and because it is not at all clear when an observed behavior can be counted as "sexual," or as implying a sexual "orientation." Also, Creation Ministries International wrote on this subject of whether or not there is homosexuality in the animal kingdom: "There is...documented proof of cannibalism and rape in the animal kingdom, but that doesn???t make it right for humans."[1]
A 1996 article, published by an organization committed to the treatment of homosexuality, musters the arguments against interpretation of animal behavior as sanctioning homosexuality.[2] It notes that "homosexual scientist Simon LeVay" stated that the evidence pointed to isolated acts, not to homosexuality:
??? Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity.
Quit posting such unfounded tripe about same sex in the animal species to justify homosexual behavior as being normal..... it is not normal nor productive ..... it is true once you deny God then you will fall for anything..... you are no exception ghostmasseur...
Comment: Mind you, wht I am saying is not that ALL males in the species do that. Just that it occurrs naturally. It cannot be said that the males that engage in such behavior make a conscious decision to do so. That is simply how thoe specific males are wired by nature. Therefore it is natural. And since it occurs in every generation, even if the males that do so do not mate, then it is obviously a genetic trait.
Comment: Mind you that you are equating an animal with a human being..... this is a dangerous precedence..... a Lion will kill the cubs of another lion in order to mate with the lioness whom upon knowing the death of her offsprings goes into heat..... a monkey will have sex with it mother when stress out and the mother will share sexual activities with other is the group.... a dog will have sex with it's mother, sister and everything that comes into heat.... even your leg at times...LOL...
Most mammals have what is called the alpha male .... this gives them the rights to mate with all the females in the pack.... the alpha males spend most of their time trying run down and stop other males from mating with the females in the group.... to say that certain males are wired by nature to behave in a homsexual way is ludicrous.... it is also ludicrous that the pro-homosexual crowd couldn't find the genetic traits or gene in the human race now they have turn to expaining their behavior in the animal kingdom....
Here is a news flash for you... animals don't make laws for other animals to try to accept their behavior as normal.... the kill and eat one another for survival and their is no moral consequence for their actions... they don't have souls and are not accountable before God.... they simply exist ..... and even they know that their is a God in Heaven who feeds them and takes care of them....
Comment: Didar,
Where do you get your statistics on 50% or more of vegetarians hating ALL bloodshed. (Hating all bloodshed would mean that they are complete pacificsts and would refuse to serve in the military.)
I know many vegetarians how, although they do not eat meat (and over half do so purely for personal health reasons and not because they think that eating meat is inherently wrong. ) Now do many vegetarians oppose everyone eating meat? Of course, but that does not mean the majority do or that they oppose other forms of bloodshed. BTW, my comment was that being a vegetarian does not automatically mean that one hates bloodshed, which was what your posts implied.
My comment about your age was because you have a tendency to make blanket statements without evidence. That is a tendency that I have noticed among my younger students.
And my comment about your limited English skills was to point out that those limitations result in your not getting your ideas across in a cogent manner. IT was asking to to be a bit more careful when you write.
I did effectively answer your quetion but I will give you a direct answer. Of course. There is no reason to think that same-sex marraiges would nto last just as long as opposite sex marraiges. I know over 50 same-sex couples, 35 of whom have been in monogamous relations (with the same person) for over 10 years.) 20 of those have been together over 22 years and 5 have been together over 30 years.
I post here because I am a human being who is a strtong supporter of equal rights for ALL people. The idea that only gays would post here is ignorant at best. The majority of people who post on newsboards are heterosexual (since the majority of the planet is heterosexual), the the majority of people who support gay rights are heterosexual becuase,like equal rights for women, Jews, Muslims, and the like, gays are entiteld to equal rights. Remember the article that this comment board is tied to is about US law. Most of us hate that religious nutjobs are trying to rape the US Constitution by making US laws based on thier narrow view of thier religion. That is treason against the US Constitution and the USA.
I am a university professor. If you talked to Sociology profgessor and history professors they would tell you that marriage was not primary for procreation.
Comment: no way yoga is not a religion I wasn???t said yoga is a religion you have to be careful in some points!!
ok I never mentioned yoga that???s true but most of vegetarians in my country practicing yoga but maybe its different in other places {there are many people who practice the relaxation techniques who do not follow the religion.}you wrote this,and you right and im one of them because yoga is not belong to Islam it comes from India and there are so many people who practicing yoga as a medical treatment or like a healthy sport and some one including me practice yoga to become a spiritual person I don???t know you get me or not .
{im doing nothing unhealthy or wrong }you wrote that but I didn???t said you are doing something wrong or unhealthy!? I wrote you should be more careful when you read my comments that???s all and you wrote a few of vegetarians have any ties to hating bloodshed but that???s not fact let me tell you some famous vegetarians { suqrat, Tolstoy, osho, Aniston, Newton ,Shakespeare, ???}and those great people were really hated bloodshed.
and you cant say a few of vegetarians have any ties hating bloodshed cuz that???s not true at all .and same sex marriage really change nature cuz you cant usually have a baby if you want and I have a question do you think that the same sex marriage will be last for a long time and in the normal marriage btw man&woman you can call the male husband and the female wife then how can we call you ? and im not going to compare you with animals but have you ever seen same sex marriage inside them? and another question have you ever attracted to any man I mean different sex? from yours?
Comment: Just because there are famous vegetarians who hate bloodshed does not mean that vegetarianism is automatically tied to hating bloodshed. THAT is the point I was making. I understand that it is both your age and limited skills with the English language, but as I said before, I was commenting on the fact that in your prior posts you mentioned vegetarianism and then tried to tie that to being against bloodshed in a way that came off sounding as if one being vegetarian meant that one ALSO hated bloodshed. I was trying to teach you to be careful how you write.
And when you said to be more careful you did NOT say to be more careeful reading your posts. Like it or not this is an English language board so the onus on making oneself clear lies with the writer not the reader.
Having a baby is not the main purpose of marraige. It never has been. It was originally a property rights issue. Marriage has nothing to do with nature. It is a completey human-made idea. Having babies is pure biology and it is no different for humans than for animals. Same sex couples can have babies through a wide range of methods, but that has no effect on their relationship with their partners.
I am not gay. I am male and if and when I get married it will be to a woman. Aside from standard friendships with men and women, all of my relationships have been with women and all of my sexual relations have been with women. I am sexually attracted only to the opposite sex. A piece of advice. You willl find that the overwhelming majority of people you meet who are pro-same-sex marraige are in fact not gay/lesbian. Do not presume that on these boards that the defenders of same-sex marriage are gay. Some will be gay, but most, I would venture, are heterosexual.
But for same sex couples they could be called two wives, two husbands or two spouses. The words used have no bearing on the legitimacy of same-sex marriage.
And since marraige does not exist in the animal kingdom the question about it is nonsense. But same-sex couplings and "pairings" do exist in the animal kingdom in every single mammalian species. Science has documented that.
Comment: no way yoga is not a religion I wasn???t said yoga is a religion you have to be careful in some points!!
ok I never mentioned yoga that???s true but most of vegetarians in my country practicing yoga but maybe its different in other places {there are many people who practice the relaxation techniques who do not follow the religion.}you wrote this,and you right and im one of them because yoga is not belong to Islam it comes from India and there are so many people who practicing yoga as a medical treatment or like a healthy sport and some one including me practice yoga to become a spiritual person I don???t know you get me or not .
{im doing nothing unhealthy or wrong }you wrote that but I didn???t said you are doing something wrong or unhealthy!? I wrote you should be more careful when you read my comments that???s all and you wrote a few of vegetarians have any ties to hating bloodshed but that???s not fact let me tell you some famous vegetarians { suqrat, Tolstoy, osho, Aniston, Newton ,Shakespeare, ???}and those great people were really hated bloodshed.
and you cant say a few of vegetarians have any ties hating bloodshed cuz that???s not true at all .and same sex marriage really change nature cuz you cant usually have a baby if you want and I have a question do you think that the same sex marriage will be last for a long time and in the normal marriage btw man&woman you can call the male husband and the female wife then how can we call you ? and im not going to compare you with animals but have you ever seen same sex marriage inside them? and another question have you ever attracted to any man I mean different sex? from yours?
Comment: no way yoga is not a religion I wasn???t said yoga is a religion you have to be careful in some points!!
ok I never mentioned yoga that???s true but most of vegetarians in my country practicing yoga but maybe its different in other places {there are many people who practice the relaxation techniques who do not follow the religion.}you wrote this,and you right and im one of them because yoga is not belong to Islam it comes from India and there are so many people who practicing yoga as a medical treatment or like a healthy sport and some one including me practice yoga to become a spiritual person I don???t know you get me or not .
{im doing nothing unhealthy or wrong }you wrote that but I didn???t said you are doing something wrong or unhealthy!? I wrote you should be more careful when you read my comments that???s all and you wrote a few of vegetarians have any ties to hating bloodshed but that???s not fact let me tell you some famous vegetarians { suqrat, Tolstoy, osho, Aniston, Newton ,Shakespeare, ???}and those great people were really hated bloodshed.
and you cant say a few of vegetarians have any ties hating bloodshed cuz that???s not true at all .and same sex marriage really change nature cuz you cant usually have a baby if you want and I have a question do you think that the same sex marriage will be last for a long time and in the normal marriage btw man&woman you can call the male husband and the female wife then how can we call you ? and im not going to compare you with animals but have you ever seen same sex marriage inside them? and another question have you ever attracted to any man I mean different sex? from yours?
Comment: yes vegetarianism is always hate bloodshed in yoga and for someone who is practicing yoga its different im yogi and in yoga you don???t have to hurt anything or any one , you should know that if you have any knowledge about yoga .i know that in India and some countries of far east there's a lot of vegetarian they don???t eat meat because they cant buy or get it but my case is different and btw me and you the one who should be more careful is you not me.you said that the the habit of homosexually is not bad when I think its change the nature and any one who do that is a kind of person who cannot control him or her self . it???s a relationship btw same sex people which is friendship that can be a really close and great relation .do you get me pal?
Comment: OK. But once again you failed to point out he reasons you became a vegetarian. So my points were valid.
Younever mentioned yoga in your prior posts, so I would have to reason to know why you became a vegetarian. Also, Yoga is not exclusively a religion. there are many people who practice the relaxation techniques who do not follow the religion.
I have no reason to be careful. I am doing nothing wrong or unhealthy. BTW, I am not gay. I am heterosexual.
Science has shown that homosexuality exists in every mamallian (and some non-mammalian) species so it is very much in tune with nature. It has nothin to do with control. Sex is a beautiful and healthy thing. Homosexuality is not jut aobut (or even primarily about) sex. It is about attraction and therefore isnot different from heterosexuality.
Just so you know, there are a wide range of reasons why people become vegetarians and only a few of them have any ties to hating or disavowing ALL bloodshed.
Comment: yes vegetarianism is always hate bloodshed in yoga and for someone who is practicing yoga its different im yogi and in yoga you don???t have to hurt anything or any one , you should know that if you have any knowledge about yoga .i know that in India and some countries of far east there's a lot of vegetarian they don???t eat meat because they cant buy or get it but my case is different and btw me and you the one who should be more careful is you not me.you said that the the habit of homosexually is not bad when I think its nature and any one who do that is a kind of person who cannot control him or her self . it???s a relationship btw same sex people which is friendship that can be a really close and great relation .do you get me pal?
Comment: you know about aids I didn???t mean its increase because of gay relations I mean its indirectly become a reason to decreasing the number of marriage btw man&woman and then if you compare girls number with the will be bigger than boys and then it make the girls think about illegal relationship more than marriage and that relationship increase aids it was my point
and about that my vegetarian cannot help me to hate bloodshed!> its just a several month that I become a vegetarian and the only reason which effected me for that decision was I hate bloodshed and its really hurt me when you compare me with Hitler and I didn???t write that you are wrong I think you get it later
and plz be careful when you reading my comments when I wrote homosexually is bad I mean the habit not that person who do that{In my world no one is bad}you get me ? and can you plz explain from that 8-10% amount of lesbians are greater or gays? if there's any part in my comment that you cant exactly understand what I mean ask me for explanation b4 you judge me . cuz I think you almost understood my comments wrong
Comment: Actaully AIDS has NO effect on the number of marraiges between men and women. Whoever told you that is wrong.
And although I understand that you may live in country where relationships outside of marraige are aillegal that is not the case in the rest of the world. In US law (and the law of may other countries) Marriage is primarily a property rights/.end-of-life decisions/estates/medical decisons/taxation issue. Love and companionship are not a requiring as far as the state is concern (nor should it be, whihc is why the state has no valid reason to prohibit same-sex marriage). If one does not care about those issues, marriage is not needed. It may be desired but it is not needed.
I was I was not comparing you with Hitler. I was saying that your analogy of vegetarianism being analagous to hating bloodshed is not a vlid one. It may have been your reason, but it is not a generally logical analogy. Reading whaat you wrote in prior posts, it can be easily inferred that you were saying that vegetarianism is always tied to a hatred of bloodshed when it is not. You need to be more careaful when you write that sort of stuff.
And I am saying that the "habit of homosexuality" is not bad either. There is nothing wrong with it.
My 8-10% comment was not about lesbians OR gays. Demographically somewhere between 8-10% of the world's population are gay or lesbian. The 2% variance is due to the normal variance in statistical studies.
Comment: all right maybe I understood you wrong in some points but can you explain what do you mean by writing that my ideas aren???t helping humanity?
and when I wrote im vegetarian I mean that i hate bloodshed and I don???t want anyone or anything hurt because of me do you get me this time ?
and I started learning English 2 years ago im not going to say that my English is perfect.
Comment: Didar,
First off try quoting what parts of my writing are wrong.
My point about your ideas not helping humanity is that when you try making flawed arguments about why same-sex marriage or homosexuality harms humanity. You have given no proof (since there is no proof) that same sex-marriage in any way "harms humanity".
You are in fact "harming humanity" (your terms not mine) because you are giving lie to the claim that homosexuality is somehow bad, causes disease (you mentioned AIDS as a result of same-sex marriage, which it is not, it is not even caused by homosexual relations). I am using your own term because whenyou help propagate those types of falsehoods, you can help inspire people who discriminate against or attack gays and lesbians. Those type of people try to make laws that deny equal rights to all humans. (And I can all but guarantee you that in the US, once they suceeded in destroying equal rights for gays they would focus their energies on destroying equal rights for Muslims since they have this mental ilness that makes them think that only their narrow-minded version of Christianity is the only one deserving of rights and existance).
BTW being a vegetarian does not automatically mean that you hate bloodshed. Hitler was a vegetarian. There are many soldiers in the world's armies that are vegetarians (the US, British, Chinese armies, to name just 3 armies, all have vegetarian meals available for their troops).
Comment: Here is a link to show you the medical consequences of what homosexuality do....
http://familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet3.html
here is another site.....on the consequences of homosexual lifestyle....
http://www.earstohear.net/Separation/facts.html
Example of what the mainstream media doesn't report: The increase in children being born out of wedlock in Scandinavia since marriage was redefined! William Murray, the chairman of the Religious Freedom Coalition, warns of the dangers of legalizing same-sex marriage in the United States. He says Scandinavia has had nearly a decade of legal homosexual marriage, and it has nearly destroyed the institution of marriage altogether. More details: http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/4/132004c.asp (Excerpts: ...In Scandinavia, illegitimate birth rates exceed 50 percent. The majority of Swedish and Norwegian children are born out of wedlock, and 60 percent of first-born children in Denmark have unmarried parents. Meanwhile, marriage rates subtly decline while, in some countries, divorce rates have skyrocketed to nearly 80 percent. ...Still, as Kurtz noted, such studies have been done. He says they showed that "throughout Scandinavia (and the West) cohabiting couples with children break up at two to three times the rate of married parents. So rising rates of cohabitation and out-of-wedlock birth stand as proxy for rising rates of family dissolution.")
Equal rights to all human beings.... their is a rule to every law.... one cannot marry if they are to young, not in their right state of mind, and who are forced to marry.... to not adhere to the standards of what qulifies one to marry is lawlessness.... Those who want to change the qualifications, bypass the standards, redefine the meaning and pass off certain behavior as being normal and valid through the court system of liberal judges inspite of the views of citizens who voted on the amendment to protect the institute of marriage are the ones who are narrow-minded in believing that their way should be accepted and all those who don't agree with them are bigots.... Everyone has the right to marry under the conditions set forth of what is define as marriage and those who want to change the definition are the lawless ones who campaign to try to teach our children (while in kindergarden) to accept their immorality as being normal are a grave threat to society as a whole and to the family..... period...
Comment: Didar,
I now realize that I misread the first part of your pst. You were not saying that I was wrong but that you had misunderstood what I had written. Sorry for the confusion.
Comment: you have no right to say that I have making no sense cuz im a person who is %100 emotional and my only dream is how to help humanity ? I,m 17 years old I think every one in my age just think about how to enjoy life but im not
you tell me that I have no sense while I cant even eat any kind of meat{im vegetarian} and also you have no right to say that my relegius belifs are no fact you get me? thank ypu for your heartbroken comments.
Comment: you have no right to say that I have making no sense cuz im a person who is %100 emotional and my only dream is how to help humanity ? I,m 17 years old I think every one in my age just think about how to enjoy life but im not
you tell me that I have no sense while I cant even eat any kind of meat{im vegetarian} and also you have no right to say that my relegius belifs are no fact you get me? thank ypu for your heartbroken comments.
Comment: Didar,
I am saying that you are making no sense because it s very hard to understand exactly what you are trying to convey. I am aware that English is not your first language, but you need to understand that some of what you are writing is coming acrros as at times nonsensical.
My point is that your ideas are not actually helping humanity. You do not seem to have really thought through the whole issue (or perchance have not done enoguh research to offer informed options). Some of your concepts (such as using the strawman argument about a person you are talking to not being there if their father had been married to a man) are seriously flawed. I am trying to help you become better informed about the realities of the issue.
I never said that you make no sense because you are vegetarian (I have no idea where you came up with that idea) or because you are an "emotional 17 year old (I was not aware of your age or emotional state, and theose things are not evident in your writing.)
And I never said that your religion is bad. Jjust that you are mistaken in your assertions about how Judaism and Jewish theological texts were developed and what they say. My comments were also that although Islam has done much good, it is currently not representing itselfinthe best light (but neither is some of Christianity ir Judaism.)
I have not idea what a "heartbroken comment is". I am not heartbroken, so my comments cannot be heartbroken.
AS for my comment about your religious beleifs be your own beliefs and not fact, that is not a criticism or a negative. ALL of religion is humna belief. There is no irrefutable evidence that any of the theological aspects of any religon are anything other than creations of the human imagination. In fact, the is no proof that gods exist except in the human imagination. There is nothing wrong with god existing in the human imagination. Many people need to have god in their imagination. Among other things, it gives them a sense of security, and that sense is not false if it inspires them act accordingly. It (and religion as well, since all religions are human-made constrcuts) can inspire them to treat their fellow humans and the planet with respect and dignity. That is always a positive and beneficial thing.
Comment: think about it because many years ago your parents married you was born and you are enjoying life now but if your dady instead your mam married another man what would happened? if it was like that you couldn't live now and even nobody knew anything about you cuz you wasn???t born
one thing else I have a friend who is my best friend and I love her so much even more than my parents and we are old friends and if 1 day ill get marry I cant love my husband more than her but it doesn???t mean just because I love her so much I have to marry her and neither me nor her never think about such thing and there's a lot of chance that we can be together and see each other it???s a friendship which we have to respect .
I would like to say if you really care about human being or humanity and want to decrease aids and other diseases you should marry a woman in a legal marriage
my dear friends plz before any decision think about it carefully try to show your self what the result will be
you know this world and what's inside it {human,animal.bird..}are controlled by god and there's a lot of freedom which god gives to us our merciful god could control our mind&brain at first when we were a baby if he wanted but god wants us to be free and by brain &logic find the truth so plz lets respect all that freedom which god rewarded us and don???t use it in a bad ways.
Comment: didar,
You are making no sense.
First off, since I am heterosexual I am attracted to women. But I have no desire to have children.
There is nothing wrong with homosexuality aor seame-sex marraige. Marriage is NOt primarily about procreationit is about love and commitment.
Your arguement about what wuld have happened if my father had been gay and married another ma is an invalid argument. No-one is saying that EVERY man would marry another man, or EVERY woman would marry another woman. We are talking about maybe 8-10% of the world's population at best. It would hae little or no effect on birth-rates. And gay men can still be father (through sperm donation and surrogate mothers, just as lesbians can bear children through artificial insemination or even simple intercourse which has nothing to do with love and is only a minor part of marriage (and not all heterosexual married couples have children, either by biology or by choice.)
Your comment about caring about humanity and decreasing AIDS is equally flawed. Caring about humanity would in fact men that one should be in favor of population control. And AIDS is not a part of the same-sex marriage equation. AIDS is NOT just a gay disease (it is in fact no longer a predominantly gay disease). Also committed monogamous marriages (and gays are just as monogamous as heterosexuals are) would lessen the chances of AIDS inthe couple. IT would not eliminate it since, like heterosexual couples, they couple engage in other risky behvaiour like intravenous drug use, or be exposed to it in other ways such as contanimated blood, or being in jobs where the exposure risk is higher such as the general medical or emergancy medicine fields.
Your god arguement is only your religious beliefs and not fact. Therefore it is also irrelvant to the general discussion. It is only relevant to you and others who believe in god. Since I, and many others, have no need for man-made deities or religions, that argument is of not value or importance.
Comment: you have no right to say that I have making no sense cuz im a person who is %100 emotional and my only dream is how to help humanity ? I,m 17 years old I think every one in my age just think about how to enjoy life but im not
you tell me that I have no sense while I cant even eat any kind of meat{im veg
