Where's the Poll??? I don't see a Poll to vote in. Do you have to be a democrat FOR Obama to vote??
Where's the Poll??? I don't see a Poll to vote in. Do you have to be a democrat FOR Obama to vote??
http://www.newsweek.com/id/142469
CAMPAIGN 2008
Newsweek Poll Methodology
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Updated: 3:35 p.m. ET Jun 20, 2008
This is nine pages that will describe to you in detail how the poll was conducted, and the scientific methodology behind it.
The scientific methodology that grossly over-represents Democrats and Independents over Republicans? That methodology?
The poll is on the link below...the link is now working properly....
Not sure how to poise this question but here goes.
MoveOn.org has produced smear ads in the past (one recently w/baby Alex going into 100yr Iraq war).
527 groups have produced smear ads in the past (may be some on the burner now)
Which is the worse of either method if both are capable of creating the same product which may be a Smear ad. Trying to figure out why MoveOn.org is not a 527 group. . . or is it?
I think the swiftboat ads against Kerry set the standard...I haven't tried youtube, but I bet if you hunt just a little bit there something will show up. I am not sure if MoveOn.org is a 527 group, however I would follow the logic based on the ad was not approved by Barack's campaign that it would fall under that category.
I am sure you know already based on my past postings, I don't want to assume anything, and if anyone who knows the answer to sharenews specific question, go for it.... Logically too it would seem to me that veteransagainstmccain would fall under the 527 too
I just saw one of that groups ad today on youtube, Veteransagainstmccain. I think you are right about that one, that it is a 527. It will be interesting to see what others also think about 527groups and the moveon.gov site (as I know it is not a group focused just on the presidental campaign, it represents many american causes in which people contribute to go up against various issues in this country.
If you believe wikipedia, which some things are pretty accurate, than the 527's listed there should be as I clear my throat accurate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/527_group
See if you feel comfortable with this URL...
Mark
hmmmm 80% of Republicans responded for MvCain and 80% of Democrats responded for O'bama. The Independents were 48 -36 O'bama but with 16% Undecided. Hmmmm. Doesn't sound like a 15% margin to me, does it to you?
And they were registered voters not likely voters. Keep posting the lies Newsweek.. It only serves to motivate true anti_socialist Americans to vote Against O'bama, the afro-centric Marxist. Lots of O'bamaniacs here today. Does he pay you or are you just happy to be trying to destroy America?
Awe what a good little sheep. you hit just about every one of the Sean Hannity/FOXpublican talking points that there has been, so cudos to you.
UNFORTUNATELY, as usual you are FULL OF RACIST SH!T! Nobody cares about Rev Wright, unless you just want to again boost his numbers and make him stronger, like each time it came up in the primaries. Also Only about 13% of voters still think he's Muslim, 13% why does that sound familuar? Oh yeah that is the combined number of people from Wva And Kn who said they would not vote for him because he's BLACK, not Muslim, BLACK.
You see I have figured out the whole "Muslim" joke. I refuse to believe that 43 million people can be that STUPID, when it is clear that he is NOT and NEVER has been a Muslim. He is however BLACK and always has been (at least half). It's not ok, or socially acceptable to hate himm for being "Black" you can't just come out and call him the "N" word, not anymore. BUT, you can hate him if you "believe" he's Muslim, right now that is acceptable socailly, now only by about 28% of the population, but it's easier to claim that's why YOU hate him and get away with it then to just say..."I hate that "N" word"...and it makes you angry that you can't just come out and say it, you think it should be your right, and it is, you're just a coward, so you say "Muslim" instead of "N" word. Shame on you RACIST.
HDavison, are you a woman? Because after reading your response I just want to kiss you! : )
Excellent!
No, sorry, but I can be European if that helps...lol Holy is the woman ;)
Ha! No, I'll pass! : D
Is Doobie Roller a woman? OMG
It might be MORE than 15%, actually. Why? Because polling is taken from land telephone lines, not cell phones. Obama has an unprecedented young following who mostly use cell phones and no land lines, the polling is not reflecting any of those people. Obama's lead is higher.
Now that is a very interesting point I had not considered - but you are absolutely right. There are a lot of young people who only have cell phones.
So with all your ranting and raving, why bother reading Newsweek? Or are you afraid of a Black President?
Rasmussen is the only acurate poll company. The leftys always over sample democrats early in the cycle to give their guy a boost. As election day nears the Leftys dial back in so they don'y look like fools. Look at 2004. Rasmussen was exactly right. Obama currently has a five point lead with leaners.
I disagree. In '04 Rasmussen had the least accurate sampling, giving the election to Kerry. If only they had been right!
Source: ????
Rasmussen!
Thank God Kerry lost and will run for Senate and the nation will not have to put up with him forever.I think 91% blacks and Brown are voting for BHO go figure it out who is race conscious.Race is on both sides you can trust it on blogs.Progressive or left wing leaners are die hard socialists who want to do nothing and want to be funded by Obama.
Given Newsweek's left leaning Obama cheerleading stance these polling statistics are pretty worthless. Besides being a radical left wing agitator, Obama is a complete phony, cleverly marketing himself as a change politician who will bring a different style of politics to DC. This is a tribute to Obama???s excellent marketing, which is completely laughable & about as believable as a 3AM TV infomercial. Obama came up through the rat's nest & sewers of Chicago politics where all the Democratic cronies game the system for their own benfit. Whether it be Rezko who was his major supporter and fundraiser (his denial of any major association with Rezko was just another of the many Obama lies). Obama has had a long career of handing out quid pro quo kickbacks & government contracts to their cronies while lying to the public about his associations.
Obama had no problem and didn???t think or feel there was anything wrong with his church or his reverend Wright (his mentor), or Pfleger, or the honoring of an anti semitic racist like Farrakhan until it became a political embarrassment to his campaign. These associations define and speak loudly to his political views! He sat in that church given his support to this radical preaching to the members and especially the children of that church. Thousands of congregants and thousands of their children were indoctrinated with the crazy Rev. Wrights silly & race hatred fomenting views with Obama???s complete and full support.
All in all Obama with the help of a complicit and fawning democratic media has done a good job of hiding this disgusting background from the sheeple (the unthinking public) who go GAGA for what is simply an updated version of corrupt lying race hucksterslike Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton who basically have been blaming whitey for 40 years, while misleading their flock for their own personal, and often corrupt and ill gotten gains. This phony Obama marketing campaign foisted on the public by a powerful fawning Democratic media is a disservice to the country. Hopefully in the end the truth will come out. Obama is just more of the same old same old corrupt left wing politics & unfortunately it???s exactly the same old corrupt Washington Politics with better marketing and a prettier younger face.
Great comment !! 100% right!!!
Apparently you are a bigot too....I will remember your name on future postings too....
A bigot and an idiot.
They are running around lose in record numbers on here lately
Amen ... BTW, Zombiehero said you would vouch that he is a Hillary supporter. I wasn't sure if he was one of the few remaining angry and bitter Hillary supporters or a Republican in democrat clothing.
So I just settled on him being an idiot.
Hi Zig. Yes, Zombie is a Hillary supporter. Not bitter though. He's okay. Voting McCain of course. I have tried to butter him up to come over our side, but no.
Uh oh ... I think I may have dropped the toast butter side down on another board. My bad.
Don't worry about it. Zombie won't care.
I'll give him a big hug the next time I see him - I'll tell him you told me I should do it :-)
Lol! Okay... I guess. Will the hug be from me or you? Zig, you are a guy right?
I am, and very secure in my masculinity, not problem giving a guy a hug. It's all about the love baby! I guess we'll see if Zombie is homophobic :-)
Good. It is all about the love, especially in this world we live in now. We need to spread more of it, so by all means give my buddy Zombie a big hug for me, thanks. Here's one from me to you, ((((Z))).
Awww - I'm blushing again!
Zig, blushing is good, enjoying what makes one blush, is even better. Lol! I'm surprised at myself.
Zig, I was kidding in my comment below.
Awe what a good little sheep. you hit just about every one of the Sean Hannity/FOXpublican talking points that there has been, so cudos to you.
UNFORTUNATELY, as usual you are FULL OF RACIST SH!T! Nobody cares about Rev Wright, unless you just want to again boost his numbers and make him stronger, like each time it came up in the primaries. Also Only about 13% of voters still think he's Muslim, 13% why does that sound familuar? Oh yeah that is the combined number of people from Wva And Kn who said they would not vote for him because he's BLACK, not Muslim, BLACK.
You see I have figured out the whole "Muslim" joke. I refuse to believe that 43 million people can be that STUPID, when it is clear that he is NOT and NEVER has been a Muslim. He is however BLACK and always has been (at least half). It's not ok, or socially acceptable to hate himm for being "Black" you can't just come out and call him the "N" word, not anymore. BUT, you can hate him if you "believe" he's Muslim, right now that is acceptable socailly, now only by about 28% of the population, but it's easier to claim that's why YOU hate him and get away with it then to just say..."I hate that "N" word"...and it makes you angry that you can't just come out and say it, you think it should be your right, and it is, you're just a coward, so you say "Muslim" instead of "N" word. Shame on you RACIST.
Stevespelling: Great comment 100% TRUE!!!!
Well brand new day, and same old TALKING POINTS...Wright, Farakahn, it's silly. See the funny thing is, How transparent you guys are. You present this as if you researched it and this is what you found, but really as is COMPLETELY evident, your source FOXpublican Noise. If you were TRYing to make an educated choice of candidates, you would RESEARCH both candidates, and you HAVE NOT done that, you only bring up wright, bitter, muslim, farakahn, ayers, tucc, whatever Hannity/Orally talk about that nite. You are a Sad American and barely that...so with no furhter ado, lets get on with it, shall we?
Awe what a good little sheep. you hit just about every one of the Sean Hannity/FOXpublican talking points that there has been, so cudos to you.
UNFORTUNATELY, as usual you are FULL OF RACIST SH!T! Nobody cares about Rev Wright, unless you just want to again boost his numbers and make him stronger, like each time it came up in the primaries. Also Only about 13% of voters still think he's Muslim, 13% why does that sound familuar? Oh yeah that is the combined number of people from Wva And Kn who said they would not vote for him because he's BLACK, not Muslim, BLACK.
You see I have figured out the whole "Muslim" joke. I refuse to believe that 43 million people can be that STUPID, when it is clear that he is NOT and NEVER has been a Muslim. He is however BLACK and always has been (at least half). It's not ok, or socially acceptable to hate himm for being "Black" you can't just come out and call him the "N" word, not anymore. BUT, you can hate him if you "believe" he's Muslim, right now that is acceptable socailly, now only by about 28% of the population, but it's easier to claim that's why YOU hate him and get away with it then to just say..."I hate that "N" word"...and it makes you angry that you can't just come out and say it, you think it should be your right, and it is, you're just a coward, so you say "Muslim" instead of "N" word. Shame on you RACIST.
Republicans have hammered Michelle Obama for her remarks in February that she was proud of America "for the first time in my adult life." Tonight, however, Dan Abrams showed footage he uncovered of a Fox News interview with John McCain on March 13, 2008, in which McCain said, "I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company."
Abrams thinks McCain's comments could undermine the "right wing's steady attacks against Michelle Obama."
I can't wait to see the video, chin!
Huffington Post has it and it's on Dan Abrams.
I heard or read something about McCain saying something like that, but it was tied into when he was a POW; and like the old saying that you dont realize how much you miss or love something / someone until it is taken away from you. In his case, it was his freedom and living in this great countryy of America.
Newsweek poll is full of crap. I have not seen Obama ahead in ANY poll. Clinton supporters will NEVER vote for Obama.
Clinton supporters ARE voting for Obama. McCain version 2000 supporters (myself included) are voting for Obama too. Because of the internet, campaign finance reform is no longer needed, and spinlies get shredded in short order regardless of which party originates them.
Instead of posting spin comments such as this one, why not address an actual issue such as Iraq, energy policy, FISA/constitutional rights, etc.
I agree Tom....You first. Obama on Iraq? Be careful, because I think his view has changed recently.
Obviously you have not seen ANY polls then, because Obama is leading in ALL of them.
Why won't Clinton supporters vote for Obama? Out of spite? If that is the case, I weep for the state of our country. You act like Obama cheated his way to the primary victory. He did not. It freakin' amazes me that someone would not vote for Obama just because they are made that Clinton lost the primary. Does it matter not that Clinton herself is going to support Obama? If you were truly loyal to Clinton, you would support her in her quest to get Obama elected.
Judging by the extreme nature of the rhetoric...I'd have to say......that posty is part of a psy-ops.
NEVER!!!
Today on the CNN News the media spoke of The Two Obamas which David Brooks, the writer, so distinctly captured in an article he wrote. I am posting this not to stir up anger with Obama supporters, but to present to you the other side of Obama that many of us (undecided voters or non-Obama) voters see. Let me know what you feel is not true in your mind and why or any thoughts you have. Mean spiritied or name calling bloggers need not respond. Thank you.
Op-Ed Columnist
THE NEW YORK TIMES
THE TWO OBAMAS - Dr. Barack and Fast Eddie Obama
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: June 20, 2008
God, Republicans are saps. They think that they???re running against some academic liberal who would not wear flag pins on his lapel, whose wife is not proud of America and who went to some liberationist church where the pastor damned his own country. They think they???re running against some naïve university-town dreamer, the second coming of Adlai Stevenson.
But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there is Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who would throw you under the truck for votes.
This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He???s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he is too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside.
But he is been giving us an education, for anybody who cares to pay attention. Just try to imagine Mister Rogers playing the agent Ari in Entourage and it all falls into place.
Back when he was in the Illinois State Senate, Dr. Barack could have taken positions on politically uncomfortable issues. But Fast Eddie Obama voted Present nearly 130 times. From time to time, he threw his voting power under the truck.
Dr. Barack said he could no more disown the Rev. Jeremiah Wright than disown his own grandmother. Then the political costs of Rev. Wright escalated and Fast Eddie Obama threw Wright under the truck.
Dr. Barack could have been a workhorse senator. But primary candidates do not do tough votes, so Fast Eddie Obama threw the workhorse duties under the truck.
Full Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html?em&ex=1214193600&en=00c95f8ea46a7c37&ei=5087%0A
We know where you got your info from, the GOP website. Give us a break.
You would have to been exposed to Illinois politics or lived there like my parents to fully appreciate this article....I don't think this is a Republican or Democratic article...rather lessons that Barack learned early and helped him to be where he is today....I like human interest pieces, and this one was kind of funny too. If I missed something about it being Republican, please enlighten me...thanks :-)
My family came from Chicago, and moved to the West Coast in the late 1940's. Chicago from what they told me was so different than anyplace else they ever lived...it sounds funny to me now, that my father was able to bribe a cop....it was all about payoff, and toughness especially dealing with the party machine...and still is up to a point today the way it sounds....
Perhaps with whatever exposure Obama had in Illinois may have helped him to develop into a well seasoned politician, albeit a faster pace than someone who would not have been exposed to the politics in Illinois. Sure Obama was thrown into the big leagues when the momentum of the primaries starting going his way. He definitely was not prepared for Rev. Wright....Regardless, he was humble, admitied when he was wrong, and moved forward...and beat Hillary in the primary. You cannot win like that with luck alone...
I think he is going to do very well. I have said in past postings, polls change with the color of my wife's hair and the wind that blows it around. I think the real story is going to be when he chooses a VP. The great mystery....so many good people could be with him on the ticket....I am waiting as patienly as I can.... :-)
Thanks for your response, Mark. What I gained from that article is in fact exactly what you said. With his coming out of the Chicago Political Machine he is not to be considered as being naive, and the Republicans have thrown that word around. He is very politically savy. And you know, it is not so much that that is the issue, it is moreso that people dont acknowledge that he really is like all the rest of the politicians but they continue to have him on a pedastal. I really wish I could hear him talk in person some day. Maybe that is the key to admiring this man. I really thinnk he is a smart guy and politician. but the fact that he has not much in the area of experience and significant accomplishments that bothers me a good deal. no proven record to go by. That he is all for hope and change. Just not used to a candidate like that to have to vote for if I want to vote democratic. But in summary, yes Obama is one the Reoublicans need to keep on their toes with Obama. It will be interesting how the race to the GE goes thru the summer and into the Fall. That is for sure. : - D
I love the first part about Republican's being saps - of course, that probably doesn't come as a surprise to anyone on this board.
Hey sharenews, can you tell me which is it, the "N" word or the "M" word...which one works for you, grants you what you need to hate?
Awe what a good little sheep. you hit just about every one of the Sean Hannity/FOXpublican talking points that there has been, so cudos to you.
UNFORTUNATELY, as usual you are FULL OF RACIST SH!T! Nobody cares about Rev Wright, unless you just want to again boost his numbers and make him stronger, like each time it came up in the primaries. Also Only about 13% of voters still think he's Muslim, 13% why does that sound familuar? Oh yeah that is the combined number of people from Wva And Kn who said they would not vote for him because he's BLACK, not Muslim, BLACK.
You see I have figured out the whole "Muslim" joke. I refuse to believe that 43 million people can be that STUPID, when it is clear that he is NOT and NEVER has been a Muslim. He is however BLACK and always has been (at least half). It's not ok, or socially acceptable to hate himm for being "Black" you can't just come out and call him the "N" word, not anymore. BUT, you can hate him if you "believe" he's Muslim, right now that is acceptable socailly, now only by about 28% of the population, but it's easier to claim that's why YOU hate him and get away with it then to just say..."I hate that "N" word"...and it makes you angry that you can't just come out and say it, you think it should be your right, and it is, you're just a coward, so you say "Muslim" instead of "N" word. Shame on you RACIST.
Good day to you...
Hey, I did not write the article. You do know it was not my words. Dont shoot the messenger, although in your case you are trained to spew the N and M name if you dont like any non agreeable words about Obama. With that, I will just flick your spew off my shoulder.
Hey share, the " messenger of my "enemy" is also my enemy, and I would prefer if you just "flipped me off" while scratching your face...lol
Read the response I gave back to mark who responded to this same blog of mine. That is where I was coming from. Whatever, silly girly girl..
Obama has a new t.v. ad he is pretending to have family values!! It shows him with his mom when he was little and it also shows him with his Grandparents, and he talks how they raised him and taught him family values!! It is such a joke!!! Truth is his mom took Obma to live with his grandparents when he was about 9 years old. His grandparents then raised him in Hawaii. This is the same grandmother he called 'a typical white women" His mom when she was dying a few years ago Obama never even went to see her before she died!!! And Obama wants to talk about family values!!!! More B.S. from Obama!!! Also in this t.v. ad he talks about moving to Chicago and all the good thins he did here, I live in Chicago and I can tell you one good thing he did. Obama and some others decided to rehabe some buildings for poor people to live in, this was state funded, when the work was done the poor people moved in but they could not stay long and had to find others places to live because of the carpy work that had been done in these buildings everything was falling apart. He also talks about the familys he helped after loosing their jobs at the steel mills. The stell mills are in Indiana not Chicago!!!! Obama is nothing but a JOKE!!!!!!! NOOBAMA!!!!!
Posted By: stevieraycharles @ 06/21/2008 16:00:37
Comment: I'm not trying to defend anything anyone says about either candidate here. I'm pretty sure that both of these people are just gonna do the best they can, I don't buy into the ADs coz I expect them to be crap. I'm asking you! So, Okay for you, you took care of your mom. I didn't take care of my mom when she died, since she abused me when I was young and I actually lived mostly on my own or with my Grandparents from the time I was 14 yrs old. Is that okay with you, does it make me not have family values? And my question to you, say everything you infer is true about Obama...Place that against McCain's cheating on his Wife with Cindy, and leaving her wheelchair bound to fend for herself....Cindy$$$$$$$...and tell me he's any better...LMAO
You said...."in my life family values are very important so when I see someone like Obama try to lie about family values I find it terrible." How do you know this was a lie? Maybe Obama wishes he had a better mom, and wanted to include her as part of his life, and his understanding of "Family Values" instead of saying she maybe wasn't so hot at the job which is why he lived with his Grandparents? Wouldn't that actually be "Family Values", having the ability to forgive people's shortcomings, and all? Accepting them for what they are capable of? Again, not Judging situations you/He could never truly know about? Like what his mom was going through, why she did what she did, the effect it had on him. Your judgement seems very un-"Family Values" and really unChristian too, which I imagine you may call yourself as well. Which is no Judgement, by the way... ; )
Still waiting for an answer!! Simply reposting your tired Sh*t won???t work with me coz you are incredibly dumb, and unfortunately choking on your own B.S. I promise to keep hammering you until you answer???.and just be glad your not Denmill!!! Ha Ha Hee Hee, I
am the evil babysitter???reminding you that you are a coward and own you!
Great post, but it is a little wasted on Citron. Truth and Citron are like two ships that pass in the night - never destine to actually meet.
If truth and citron are like ships in the night. Zig is like a german U-boat prowling the atlantic ready to sink either at a moments notice!
Be quiet! Zig does pretty well here.
Torpedo one away!
I mean you posted this yesterday...didn't answer the questions put to your cowardly ass, and then try to re-post it.....? how 'bout an original thought lame-brain...howabout defending your ridiculous B.S. about "Family Values" I will continue to make you look bad until you answer the questions......
STEVIERAYCHARLES: You are making yourself look bad, especially with the language you use on here!!!
It's one thing to disagree with someones opinion , but the name calling is not called for!!!
Cotron16, No you are the one that looks bad on here, but you are showing everyone what it takes to be a Republican these days. Obama may of called his Grandmother a typical white woman ie average, but he didn't call his wife a C--- and take funding (300,000) raised by a Texas cowboy who is pro-rape
Very good comment!
No see you need to be called names, coz that's what you've been doing...throwing around all kindsa B.S. labels and titles all Baaad Judgements by a very insolent little child...That would be you........Have you answered the question yet? Of course no answers...Just cowardice...Y'see I eat bully's for Lunch, and that's what you are, a struttin dumb-ass bully...I have chunks of wanna-be screw ups like you in my stool in the morning...Can you ever adress my question? No Cowards run...That's you. You deserve to be called an awful lotta names...Hypocrite Coward...general all around candy-assed bully...until you've answered the question, I am sure that I am not looking bad...I'm just calling you out, over and over again.
You mean like telling all the Obamabots to kiss your @ss - as you did above. I guess we need to add "hypocrit" to the list of your other endearing qualities.
Citron, get your facts straight before you rant. He loved his mom, and he loved his grandparents. He was a normal teenager who struggled with his identity, but he talks a great deal about how, as he got older, he began to see things in a new perspective. Many kids go through this rite of passage. He in particular talks about the fights he had with his grandfather, but then as he matured he began to see his grandfather's need to be respected in his own home. He realized his grandfather was an honorable man and saw his own childishness. This is the process ANY mature person goes through -- in different stages and to different degrees -- but most of us give our parents or guardians a hard time and then slowly begin to learn empathy and respect. The story of his interaction with his family is moving and inspiring, and it is a shame that you have to try to disparage it.
What is a true shame is that Obama called his grandmother who raised him, "A TYPICAL WHITE WOMEN" . This shows he learned no family values!! Also when Obama's mom was dying Obama did not go see her one last time before she died!! That is a real shame!!! It does not show family values!!
Obama's gran should have never told her young bi-racial grandson that she feared black men. Very irresponsible.
Family Values - Republican speak meaning to impose the values of the arrogant and elistist on the rest of the country.
Not going to happen citron.
This is from yesterday when you posted this nonsense???you fool! Answer the questions!!!
Posted By: stevieraycharles @ 06/21/2008 15:31:23
Comment: Wow Bro! Where to start on you for this post?! I'd say 100% of all T.V. ads are B.S. but, I'm more interested in what makes you the judge? I'd say from your post first -off you lose your audience since I would say simply, you don't seem to have any "Family Values" yourself. I know first rule I got at home was "only the people in the Family really know what's goin' on, so don't judge, be compassionate." Secondarily, I doubt you've ever dirtied your hands helpin' anyone build anythin' so..., I wouldn't be laying responsibility for things at Obama's feet, seems silly, and outta touch with how it really works.
Posted By: citron16 @ 06/21/2008 15:40:49
Comment: Since you can't defend him on this you try to turn it around. Won't work!!! I do have family values, always have!! That is why I find it wrong that someone who has no family values like Obama trys to say he does!!! Wake up!!! If I were to make a t.v. ad I would tell the truth, I could talk about family values, I have always been there for my parents, when my mom got sick and was dying I took care of her 24/7 in my life family values are very important so when I see someone like Obama try to lie about family values I find it terrible.
More rantings from crazy citron.
Well citron, wait till you see Obama's next commercial. In it, he pretends that you make sense and your comments are actually worth reading. Seems like a waste of time to me, but you know, that's just the kind of guy he is. He gives everyone a break!
Why do you think that Obama has done nothing for Illinois as a person before he became a senator, or as Senator for Illinois? Or let me rephrase this, as a citizen of Illinois, what would you like to see him do for you that could have been different? You sound scared of him, why is that? What about his leadership qualities make you so concerned about him being your president?
Let's see who "Daivd Brooks" is and who he hangs out with, how he see's him self:
David Brooks on the Laura Ingraham show (April 30, 2007)
David Brooks on The Dennis Miller Show
"I'm struck by how apolitical he's become... In this case, he's being who he is. He's trying to answer his calling." David Brook...04/12/07 in reference to John McCAin, "apolitical"? Do I hear bias?
"So my role today is Dr. Doom -- to break through unmerited confidence and raise the anxiety level in both camps."...
"But Obama is far from a lightweight, as Republicans will learn if he agrees to do joint town meetings with McCain. McCain,s jabs that Obama is naïve will backfire, In this climate, a candidate can't define the other guy, only himself. When McCain attacks Obama for being naïve, all voters see is McCain being sour and negative"...David Brooks 03/08/07
WOW what a source of info David is, lol and this is off his own site, imagine if I dug ;)
Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim...go ahead and elect him America so the rest of the free world can finish you guys off !!
Another nonsensical post from our resident nonsensical writer!
Since it is not cool to dislike Obama for his race, right wing nuts and other racists invent this nonsense about him being a Muslim. So, when reverend Wright was acting like a jackass on TV, Obama was a "Radical, black power Christian". When that nonsense didn't fly and even turned people off towards the GOP, then they pulled the Muslim boogie man out. I know two practicing Muslims and they are far better and principled people than those in our "Christian" administration. But it's always down to the individual, isn't it? I mean, what kind of moron in this day and age would pre-judge someone based on their religion alone?
You ain't Canadian either!
No, not Canadian. CC is a Republican from Operation Chaos.
CC is a Repub living in the states...he believes in his bs as being accurate, and full of himself...
Some of you who read my posts about investment banks driving up the price of oil through commodities futures trading did not believe me that this was a real issue, despite the fact that the Senate is investigating it. Well, it really is an issue and an important one, so important the the Department of Justice is going to investigate.
Today Senator Obama announced a plan today to crack down on excessive energy speculation and fully close the loophole in the CFTC regulations that I referred to in my blog. This loophole is also called the "Enron Loophole" because it was created by McCain Campaign co-chair Phil Gramm at the behest of Enron lobbyists, and exempts most trading on energy commodities from regulation. As a result, the CFTC is unable to oversee the oil futures market or investigate cases where excessive speculation is driving up oil prices. Just last month, John Hofmesiter, President of Shell Oil Company, says that the proper, uninflated production price of a barrel of crude oil is no more than $65.
http://www.financialpost.com/reports/oil-watch/story.html?id=532747
Clarence Cazalot, CEO of Marathon Oil, stated in November of 2007 that "$100 oil just isn't justified by the physical demand on the market - it is speculation on the futures market that is driving this."
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/12/markets/oil_hundred/index.htm?postversion=2007111216
Larry Chom, Chief Economist of Platt's, states in a recent Businessweek article that speculation is adding at least $50 to the price of every barrel of oil. You can read this article in the May 13, 2008 edition of Businessweek, but it is no longer available on their website unless you are a member.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/may2008/
To see what Senator Obama is doing to correct this serious problem and lower the price of gas and oil, go to his website:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gG5Rzb
Now THAT is my kind of President! Sees the problem, and moves to fix it, while Bush and McCain are sitting on their hands.
Thanks for the info Nins. This is one subject I am not up on as much as I could be.
All you Obamabots can kiss my ass!!!!!
And the irony is that it's big enough that we could all kiss it at the same time - assuming, of course, the you removed your head first.
Lol, you are funny, but stop Zig ! What would have made citron mad to post that all of a sudden?
I think we're getting inside his/her head. Now that I'm in here, I must say, there is not much to look at.
Maybe if he/she would post some articulate comments, we could debate him/her. But since this seems to be beyond his/her capacity, we must settle for taunting.
Oh wait, did you say stop? My bad.
Citron is probably a teenager. Has no business posting here. Where are your parents, Citron?
BTW, Zig, you are so much like Alvy, it's uncanny. I mean that in a good way.
Thanks *blush* - where is Alvy anyway? I miss his posts.
You are welcome and I think very cute that you blush!
Alvy rarely blogs on weekends. I'm sure he will honor us with his presence tomorrow.
i suppose we can hold down the fort today.
I know you can Zig, little me will just come along for the ride if that's okay.
I warned you that you were going to be called out on your bs....when someone who writes like a bigot and racist, what do you expect....a group hug? bah bye
Sounds like you're one step from throwing in the towel.
Hey Citron, TAKE IT OFF YOUR SHOULDERS!
And still no answers from this coward, no answers to a direct question....Hmmmm, sounds like McCain...HmmmmSounds like Obama...Hmmm sounds like a full of wind politician, another coward, just another coward who cannot answer a direct question aimed at his answering for his Foolishness, aimed at asking him to suppoet his statements...let's hoist Cintron up by his petard, and watch him flail in the wind? What fun.....I am a cat, you are my ball of string now.....
Now, now steve, we don't want to do that to a 16 year old child.
Citron, come on, be nice. That's very crude of you, why just last week you posted several informative comments and I thanked you. Be cool.
Wow that was a well thought out comment.
Dumb stuff Barak Obama has already done-
Wrote abook before he had ever done anything. I guess you could say he had a high opinion of himself from an early age.
Discused his illicit drug use in his book and he did Inhale! (not that serious to most voters I mean former drug users do everything from making us burgers at Mcdonalds to being great radio hosts)
Won his first politcal office by getting his democrat opponents disqualified from the election on technicalities. Which the democrats call rough and tumble Chicago Politics but the rest of the country calls dirty politics.
Got a sweet heart deal on a house from a political insider/ lobbyist/ slash evil corporate type who needed friends in state government. Tony's now in jail. Obama still lives in the house Tony got for him. ..
Attended a church for 20 years where God Damn America was met with standing ovations and heart felt applause.
Will not take any criticism from within his campaign and gets very defensive from external criticism. (telling the Media certain things are off limits)
Stole the Primary from Hillary. (ok maybe stole is a little strong but made some back room deals in Michigan probably used that rough and tumble Chicago experience)
His resume lists Community activist-state senator-United states Senate for half a term then Presidential candidate. I guess we could add author since now that he is running for president his books have begun to sell.
A severe deficiency in international relations. (those are small countries we don't really have to worry about them)
A lack of a plan for America he speaks in abstract terms instead of definite plans. (this is a political skill that he is very adept at but it won't solve any problems, except for making him hard to pin down)
He has an extremly hardcore left wing agenda this won't be a problem for his base and his core supporters but this is poison when it comes to the undecideds at election time.
He is planning to lose the War in Iraq, he already has declared victory for the enemy by setting a timetable for our troops to be out. One division a month until all our troops are home starting in January 2009.
He is planning to increase the war in Afghanistan but hasn't visited it yet or met with any generals to see if this is the right course of action. Increasing troops in Afghanistan may not make his more left wing followers very happy as they would prefer a surrender there as well.
And to think we just met this guy in 2004 I wonder what new items will pop up when we really start digging into his life and his positions.
Obama is a change we can count on he will change before our eyes to meet our every expectation
Ok, his books were bestsellers before he began his presidential run, and plenty of people write books before they have many accomplishments. He experimented with drugs when he was young. Waah. Many have. He was never an addict, and he hasn???t used drugs in a long, long time, so what???s your point?
The Rezko thing was bone-headed, yes, and Obama admits that, but if he were indebted to Rezko over it he would have tried to pull some strings with his trial. If Obama's elected, I don't think you're going to see a pardon on Rezko's behalf. The church stay has been explained frequently, and I won???t go into it here except to say that there were positive aspects as well, such as community service, etc. You site no evidence of these ???back room deals??? in Michigan. His international relations ideas are less deficient than McCain???s, whose policies seem to consist of flaunting our military power, which does not frighten those seeking to destroy us, and pisses off those who aren???t. He doesn???t only speak in abstract terms, his website outlines many concrete ideas. Plus, the idea of a definite plan is very subjective, as all plans should be subject to amendment following discussion and debate. His agenda isn???t extreme, but it is left wing, hence running as a democrat and not a republican. Your definition of loss in Iraq is a matter of perception. You say leaving would be losing, but offer no vision of what winning would look like. I don???t know to whom he???s spoken to come up with his Afghanistan policy, but he???s pragmatic enough to be willing to alter it if the experts council him against it. As it is, with the resurgence of the Taliban, Afghanistan is becoming more of a problem, so it seems clear from an outside perspective that we need more of a presence there. I haven???t heard from the left-wingers who want us to surrender on that front. What I???ve heard is them calling for us to refocus our efforts in that region, since the war in Iraq has taken that focus away and reversed the progress that was made early on.
Ok, note to self, apostrophes and quotation marks in Word translate to ??? in Newsweek comment land...
yea isn't that irritating. I hate those ??? everywhere. anyway I appreciate your response to my post but the house thing is more than a little mistake.
Taking that kind of incentive when you are a public official is a demonstration of a huge character flaw.
I would agree with you that the reverend Wright has done some good in his community but he has also spread hate. Some people argue his hate is a justifiable lashing out at oppression and I give this some credence but I watched his entire speech at the press club and as much as I enjoyed his considerable speaking skills I saw with in him a hatred. The way he immitated white people showed his true colors.
If a white man where to portray a black man in such a stereo typical fashion we would call him a racist.
If I attended a church where a priest stood up and declared God Damn America. I would stand up and shout with all my soul he was an evil man. I would then leave the church and never return.
Declaring a time table for leaving Iraq is essentially saying we surrender as of this date we will leave.
In WWII we couldnt just announce to the french that we would be pulling out of France in 9 months because the Germans and the French had always fought why should we be involved. We left Europe when the war was ended with the exception of a few military bases we left it in better shape than we found it. The same will be true of Iraq we will have a peacefull presence there indefinetly and this greatly alarms the Iranians for the most part the Iraqi people would prefer we stay. The voices of opposition are coming from the Iranian backed militias like Maqtada Al Sadre and the Iraqi government who is in a negotiating phase with us about just where the bases should or should not be.
I will say Obama has done a wonderful job of exposing just how far this country has come in racial relations and I can only hope people become more engaged in the political process.
Fair enough. I'm glad we can have a difference of opinion without all the spite. I wouldn't go so far as to call Wright's comments justified, but the sentiment behind them is somewhat understandable. As far as Iraq is concerned, I'd argue that this is a very different war than WWII. There don't seem to be truly decisive battles here because the nature of the enemy is so different. Then, we were fighting a traditional army, one of the sort that if you win enough battles they will surrender. The factions in Iraq are not like this, and it makes victory very hard to gauge. As it appears now, political progress in the country has been largely stymied. I'd be willing to alter my position somewhat if I saw enough progress on this front. I will say that the Iraqi leadership has shown some better initiative in their recent attacks, which is a good sign, but for me it's just not enough yet.
It's kind of funny that Obama has to keep making excuses for all his past associations. Is there anything in his past that he does not have to make excuses for?
Are all the people in your life saints?
He said the Rezko house thing was dumb. That's not making excuses. He's said that Wright's inflammatory comments are inexcusable. That's not making excuses either. Just because he thinks there's more to his former pastor than what we've seen in the looped sound clips doesn't mean he's making excuses for him.
Let's analyze this a little more, shall we?
STATEMENT 1 - Opinion unsupported by facts.
STATEMENT 2 - Irrevelvant, as acknowledged by the original poster.
STATEMENT 3 - Supposition. Definition of technicalities is conjectural.
STATEMENT 4 - Conjecture.
STATEMENT 5 - Unsupported extrapolation based on conjecture and inuendo.
STATMENT 6 - Opinion unsupported by facts.
STATEMENT 7 - Unsubstantiated rumor.
STATEMENT 8 - Irrelevant
STATEMENT 9 - Opinion unsupported by facts.
STATEMENT 10 - Inaccurate due to original posters failure to check sources.
STATEMENT 11 - Opinion unsupported by facts.
STATEMENT 12 - Incorrect conclusion.
STATEMENT 13 - Incorrect conclusion.
STATEMENT 14 - Rhetorical question, answer none.
STATEMENT 15 - First 7 words correct, remainder of sentence feeble and unsuccessful attempt at sarcasm.
FINAL ANALYSIS - THIS OBAMABOT CONCLUDES THIS POST IS AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE TO THE RAPIDLY DECAYING PERFORMANCE OF THE ORIGINAL POSTERS PREFERRED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
END OF LINE.
Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim...he has a Muslim father..he has a Muslim name...he went to Muslim school as a kid....walks like a duck , swims like a duck and quacks like a duck...then it must be a duck !!
Is that elementary enough for you dumb Dems to understand...the Dem party...one screwed up bunch.
Dear Concerned, you're still stuck on the idea the Obama is a Muslim, which proves that either you have duped by the GOP smear machine, or you are part of it. My guess is the latter, and all I can say about that is, if you are the best talent the GOP can find for Operation Chaos, then the GOP is in deep doo doo.
Think about the fact that Obama wrote his first book 14 years ago, and in it he discusses his relationship to Christ. Do you really think that he has had such a long eye on the Presidency, and has set up this "lie" of him being a Christian so many years in advance?
Duh.
Obama's father was not a Muslim, his grandfather was.
And Obama went to a public school in Indonesia, not to a Muslim school.
Why do you hate Muslims so much, Canadian? Did your wife leave you for one, or something?
Barak is an Islamic name as told to me by my Muslim Friends and you can track it thru your circle of friends
How did he get Hussein as the middle name and his party and surrogate avoid the middle name and why you all explain the name Hussein and Barack as they both are islamic names which have no explanations.
They have been quite open about the origins of his middle name, which he inherited from his Muslim father. In regard to his first name, Obama has said that his name is Swahili, and for those who claim otherwise, Snopes.com has this to say: "The author seems to be unaware that many Swahili words and names are of Arabic origin (just as many English words originated with other languages). 'Barack' is a Swahili name that entered the language via historical trade and cultural ties with Arabia." The campaign has never denied his middle name, but they do tend to avoid using it because his more radical opponents try to associate it with Islamic extremism, and there are some who are ignorant enough to buy into it. So, there's your explanation.
Nins - His father WAS muslim.
He WAS taught in a muslim school (1/2 brother Jeruselem Post)
He DOES have a muslim name.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, It's a duck, Idiot.
DUHmbass.
but the Muslim school had a Catholic side too...everyone forgets about that...I have a Jewish name, but my jove my name is Sweedish, and I am Catholic, what is your point??? I didn't think so....
Remember that there are no baptism record of Barack Hussein Obama at the Trinity Church. His children were baptized but he was not baptized. One of the Trinity Church policies does allow muslins to join their congregation without the official act of baptism. Barack Hussein Obama is a "closet Muslin". His affiliation to the Trinity Church is a cover up. This is the truth!!!!!
Can you enlighten me perhaps about Rasmussen news reports that Sharenews talks about? Is it only for polling? Do they tend to be centrists on their reports? Thanks Nins...
Mark
oh btw, all of us bloggers here are Muslim too...your an absolute idiot....go back to Canada, and live happily ever after...I have a muslim word for you too, your a putz
does take a hike mean anything to you....Oh I guess your a dumb Republican who likes to spew bigotry, and racist comments throughout every posting you make....Talk to Fox news about your viewpoints, even they know he is not Muslim....get a life....
Some of you who read my posts about investment banks driving up the price of oil through commodities futures trading did not believe me that this was a real issue, despite the fact that the Senate is investigating it. Well, it really is an issue and an important one.
The Department of Justice is now investigating it as well. And today Senator Obama announced a plan today to crack down on excessive energy speculation and fully close the loophole in the CFTC regulations that I referred to in my blog. This loophole is also called the "Enron Loophole" because it was created by McCain Campaign co-chair Phil Gramm at the behest of Enron lobbyists, and exempts most trading on energy commodities from regulation. As a result, the CFTC is unable to oversee the oil futures market or investigate cases where excessive speculation is driving up oil prices. Just last month, John Hofmesiter, President of Shell Oil Company, says that the proper, uninflated production price of a barrel of crude oil is no more than $65. (http://www.financialpost.com/reports/oil-watch/story.html?id=532747) Clarence Cazalot, CEO of Marathon Oil, stated in November of 2007 that "$100 oil just isn't justified by the physical demand on the market - it has to speculation on the futures market that is driving this." (http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/12/markets/oil_hundred/index.htm?postversion=2007111216) Larry Chom, Chief Economist of Platt's, states in a recent Businessweek article that speculation is adding at least $50 to the price of every barrel of oil. You can read this article in the May13, 2008 edition of Businessweek, but it is no longer available on their website unless you are a member. (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/may2008/ ).
To see what Senator Obama is doing to correct this serious problem and lower the price of gas and oil, go to his website:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gG5Rzb
Now THAT is my kind of President! Sees the problem, and moves to fix it, while Bush and McCain are sitting on their hands.
Just for fun have a look at this, a ture republican at work here...trying to make the world a "better" place for all....right?
Posted By: citron16 @ 06/22/2008 18:03:43
Comment: STEVIERAYCHARLES: You are making yourself look bad, especially with the language you use on here!!!
It's one thing to disagree with someones opinion , but the name calling is not called for!!!
What has Obama done for the country he always got breaks for what. McCain gave so much to the country and what has Obama given to good old America.Even a day in the Army or Navy would be great but no he thinks every one should support him for being son of a muslim and for being against the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.and because he is Black so am I.God is kind to me and him but taking too much for not giving enough is not fair either.
So just because McCaint served in the navy, we should elect him? Why excuse did you use 4 years ago when you voted for Bush.
What has McCain't done beside agreeing Bush 93% of the time and dragging this country into depression.
with all due respect we are not in a depression...banks have not closed, no one is jumping from office buildings etc. You're a little bit overboard on this one.
Banks have not closed? Are you on another planet? Bear Sterns has closed. The Bank of Scotland has closed. Lehman Brothers is teetering on the brink of collapse.
However, you are right that we are not yet in a depression. We are in a significant recession that has not yet reached it's nadir. Four more years of Bush economics under McCain and we will be in a depression though.
Ditto!
Dear Dad, Obama is not "the son of a Muslim." Obama's father was not a Muslim. Obama's paternal grandfather converted and became a Muslim, a religion that his wife (Obama's grandmother) did not share, and did not teach to her children (including Obama's father).
Barack Obama was raised as a Christian by his Christian mother and Christian grandparents from Kansas.
If you really did not know this, well, you know it now. You have been duped and are the victim of a smear campaign directed against Obama that is intended to make you afraid.
If you want to know about Obama's religious views, please read the chapter on Faith in Audacity of Hope. I am a Christian Republican, and I was very touched by how Obama describes his personal relationship to God and to Christ, and how he came to his deep faith while he was in his twenties. He felt called to devote his life to helping people. If more people were like Obama, it would be a better world.
Nins...I'm convinced you are on drugs. Banks cannot horde oil to artificially drive the price up and store it....there is no place to store this purchased excess oil...you are insane.
Plus..Obama is touched in the head like you are. Obama is a Muslim you knucklehead...seeing Jesus Christ in the Trinity United church 'from hell' does not make him a Christian. Americans are pretty gullible..its scary.
Concerned, why would it shock you that a bank could possess the oil that it has bought? Where does anybody store oil? Extracted oil already exists, and is stored all over the planet, billions of barrels of it in huge tanks. You don't have to believe me. Follow the link to the Senate report in my blog, and see for yourself.
It is pretty obvious that you don't understand the commodity futures markets. Actually, it is clear that you don't understand much of anything. You're still stuck on the idea the Obama is a Muslim, which proves that you have duped by the GOP smear machine. Think about the fact that Obama wrote his first book 14 years ago, and in it he discusses his relationship to Christ. Do you really think that he has had such a long eye on the Presidency, and has set up this "lie" of him being a Christian so many years in advance?
Duh.
Why do you hate Muslims so much, Canadian? Did your wife leave you for one, or something?
His mother wasn't a Christian, she was an atheist. She may have been raised that way, but when she was in high school, she was telling people she was an atheist. That's why Obama descirbes her as spirtiual but not religious.
Nins was talking about Obama's paternal grandmother. Obama's mother was indeed an atheist in college but he was raised by his Christian grandparents in Kansas. They were very conservative.
Obama's mother also make them read about religions in general.
Ooops, I see my mistake... My bad, whenstars! : )
A) Bush went AWOL from the National Guard. Cheney got FOUR, that's right, FOUR deferments and NEVER served a day in uniform.
B) Obama was not, is not and will not be against the war in Afghanistan. Why? Because that is actually where Bin Looser is.
C) How is Obama "taking too much". The man has had to work hard for all that he has. Unlike Bush, who was born with a golden foot in his mouth.
The Bush AWOL story was discredited. It is too bad you feel the need to believe a lie. As far as Cheney goes, he was a family man so yes he got deferments and was not the only one of his generation. But, the more important point is neither of them is running. MCCAIN is running so check out his family history AND his offspring. MCCAIN is far more experienced and has far more at steak about doing what is right in Iraq then Obama could have imagine. I get a kick out of Obama's commercial that his grandfather served in the military? So what? Obama is not his grandfather... not even close.
The AWOL story was NEVER disputed. What was disputed was the re-printing in Microsoft Word of one of the documents. Bush hid under daddy's cloak when other people were sent to die. Cheney was given his first deferment because he was still in college, and beware that many a family man fought and died for this country. So Cheney supports a war he refuses to serve in when duty knocks on his door and then presides over a similar war that sends other people's children to die, and you don't consider that hypocritical?
Well, McCain has used his admiral father AND grandfather in commercials, but why if Obama does the same it's not cool? You sound like a rational poster, don't you see the hypocrisy here? Obama has to absolutly play his white heritage because there are a number of people telling outrageous lies about his stake and heritage with this country.
Hey, Cazador, that was not only true, it was funny!
Way to go!
Thanks! :-) but the "golden foot" comment is from Ann Richards!
I always did like that girl!
Obama is strongly in favor of the war in Afganistan and thinks that we should step it up and really go after Bin Laden and Al Queda.
Obama wants to increase the military budget and put more men and women in uniform and give them better equipment.
He is against the war in Iraq because there were no weapons of mass destruction, because we have destabilized the region and made Iran stronger by fighting Iraq, because we ignored world opinion when going after Iraq, and because we have failed to really take steps to build a democracy there.
Not to mention the billions in debt we have incurred to fight this senseless war.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word%5B1%5D.pdf
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word%5B1%5D.pdf
If Sen Obama doesn't keep his promise to filibuster the immunity of the telecom companies, he may not even have a shot a President !!!!!!
O.K., this one is new. Do you have any more information? Immunity from what?
Some telecomm companies grabted ILLEGAL WIRE TAPS under the behest of Georgoe Bush and his adminstration, for the purpose of spying on American citizens. This new FISA act grants them some innunity form prosecution. Though, I find it funny that instead of going after the people who commited that act, they are worried about the telcomm companies who "trusted" bush and cheney. I have no sympathy for any of it, but this is what gets "republicans" in an uproar? McCain NO VOTES support for our troops (bill# S.22) and then calls for MORE WAR FOR OIL, and it's phone bills that are upsetting you?
Yawn- American citizens who take calls from suspected terrorists in the middle east are in grave danger of having the FBI listen in on their conversations. So the hell what! What danger are they in is the FBI going to give away the family Hummus recipe. Its pretty simple if they don't talk about blowing up any buildings they won't have anything to fear. If they talk about Blowing up buildings they can now appeal thier case from guantanamo.
agreed, axcept there is also inside calims that it was used for political reasons and not "National Security". So not bomb recipes, but who you gonna vote for?
Thanks for the details - you and Pia are right, this is a non-issue.
Silly.
Not silly could be reality!!!
Another irony - citron talking about reality.
If citron wants reality, citron should consider voting Obama.
Obama has a new t.v. ad he is pretending to have family values!! It shows him with his mom when he was little and it also shows him with his Grandparents, and he talks how they raised him and taught him family values!! It is such a joke!!! Truth is his mom took Obma to live with his grandparents when he was about 9 years old. His grandparents then raised him in Hawaii. This is the same grandmother he called 'a typical white women" His mom when she was dying a few years ago Obama never even went to see her before she died!!! And Obama wants to talk about family values!!!! More B.S. from Obama!!! Also in this t.v. ad he talks about moving to Chicago and all the good thins he did here, I live in Chicago and I can tell you one good thing he did. Obama and some others decided to rehabe some buildings for poor people to live in, this was state funded, when the work was done the poor people moved in but they could not stay long and had to find others places to live because of the carpy work that had been done in these buildings everything was falling apart. He also talks about the familys he helped after loosing their jobs at the steel mills. The stell mills are in Indiana not Chicago!!!! Obama is nothing but a JOKE!!!!!!! NOOBAMA!!!!!
... And it talks about how he cheated on his wife and then dumped her for a younger, richer woman... Oh wait, that was McCain!
See how we can all play this game? We can take entire, complicated lives and reduced them to pathetic character assassination attempts. It's unfair. I'd not judge who or what raised who and why they cheated or not.
Ditto!
Maybe just maybe Obama should have cleaned up his back yard of friends before he decided to run for president!! Obama is much worse than McCain!! Obama's friends, family and everything! Also the fact that he has no experience, as senator he has done nothing but run for president, I can see why people want to vote gor Obama, NOT NOOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing that bothers me about that ad is that it leaves out his father, step-father, and half-sister. And his wife and kids. It just seems strange not to show his entire family in an ad talking about his family values.
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