Barack’s Bounce

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  • Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/09/2008 10:20:26 PM

    The issue of flip-flopping and shifting to the middle will pale in comparison to Obama's connections. Around most of America, east coast, west coast and midwest....this man is being viewed as a phony....the most extreme left wing candidate we have ever had to this point....but with a nice smile.
    Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright is being discussed at the water cooler by Americans every day more and more. And that reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan, who was given a lifetime achievement award by Obama's church. (hello?). Birds of a Feather, folks.. Most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters.
    Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. Also remember that Kerry led Bush 51-44 in July....and he lost. - And now....at only 46-44....the Obama Fever Gap is wearing off fast. - John McCain will win this election.

  • Posted By: uuforyou @ 07/07/2008 11:14:38 AM

    I support Obama, strongly!
    The bounce is more than a bounce, its a trajectory!
    Obama WILL win in November!!!!
    Want to know why so many people support Obama,
    go to www.therealmccain.com and learn the truth.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/09/2008 3:56:58 PM

      WHY SO MANY PEOPLE SUPPORT OBAMA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U

      : - D

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 5:43:26 PM

        Share -

        Gee, when you get riled, you don't take any prisoners.

        I'm impressed!

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/09/2008 4:02:29 PM

      Want to know why Obama supporters voted for Obama in the primaries and will vote for him in the GE?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9mjebeMwM



    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 5:05:57 AM

      uuforyou -

      Have you made a slight mistake in spelling your screen name?
      Should it actually be uiforyou - (uninformed for you)?

      Let me get this "straight"!
      After scanning a suspiciously biased website whose obvious intention is to criticize John McCain, and not even having viewed any other website, even one favourable to Barack Obama, you have decided to be an ardent empty suite supporter.

      Wow - that definitely is one possibly flawed "leap of faith".

      But, in many ways, it is consistent with the cognitive processes displayed by most of the other Obama supporters.

      Thanks for your post - it was enlightening!

    • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/07/2008 11:54:23 AM

      Like Bill Cliinton said....what a fantasy! what a fairy tale!

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 11:30:25 PM

        A yeah except that was his first response to the accusations of an affair with Lewinski...see how that turned out huh ;)

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/09/2008 2:17:12 AM

    NEWSWEEK , it is about time to lay this article to rest (cuz the article itself is a dead issue, but bloggers just blog here cuz it is the easiest one they can grab on the Politics section other than the mid-section. Let it go cuz it no longer applies. Either just shift another great newsworthy article you have in the headlines to live for awhile in our face to replace this article (LIKE the flip flop Obama/McCain article that gets much blogging) or come up with a NEW one. It is so TRANSPARENT that you keeping this ridiculous main article in the viewers face is totally not serving the US Americians correctly when comparing any stats on Obama vs. McCain based on what YOUR SITE posted Way Back When , which at that time, was never, ever way near whatever the other polling sites were posting!!!!!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 10:55:39 AM

      Share -

      OK - I surrender - take it easy on me, Generale!

      2 flags - go for them!

      If you would care to reply, do so wherever.
      If my preference matters - after my reply to you would be preferable, and less conspicuous.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/09/2008 4:19:25 PM

        Hi Davole, I am confused by your message here. You called me General? . . . and to take it easy on you? What did I say to warrant that message? LMAO.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 5:02:39 PM

          Share -

          I know that you are cute, but WOW - you???re more than extra cute when you???re perplexed & inquisitive.

          Do you remember me stating that I generally do not do flags.
          And here I am waving 2 more of them to get your attention.

          Consider checking out - today - 05:12:25 & 10:37:00.
          And there may even be others.

          I usually reply to your posts or replies as soon as I read them.

          Does that help?

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/09/2008 5:12:09 PM

            Davole, I am sorry about that. Sounds like I missed other posts/replies from you? I will followup. Eeek. Im not always good about responding to blogs from the past, but I promis I will look for yours in the future given you are so responsive to my blogs. LOL.

            • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 5:37:51 PM

              Share -

              No need to apologize!

              To quote an ancient philosopher -

              The sky will open ...

              The light will come down ...

              Celestial choirs will be singing ...

              And the world will be perfect!


              Now we're on the same page!

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/09/2008 1:52:57 PM

    3 weeks and counting...still, NO BOUNCE!

  • Posted By: wiseman888 @ 07/09/2008 11:07:02 AM

    All Bullshit !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/04/2008 9:32:35 AM


    Don't tell me words don't matter!

    I was against Fisa before I was for Fisa!
    I was against hand guns before I was for hand guns!
    I was for public financing before I was against public financing!
    I was against faith based initiatives before I was for faith based initiatives!
    I was against nuclear power before I was for nuclear power!
    I was for a quick withdraw from Iraq before I was against a quick withdraw from Iraq!
    I was an ultra left liberal before I came to embraced true conservative positions!
    I was against Nafta before I was for freetrade!
    I was against wearing the flag pin until I for the flag pin!
    I was for keep jerusalum together until I was for dividing jerusalum!
    I was for bombing pakistan before I was against bombing pakistan!

    Words to matter! hmmmmmmmmmmm, really.

    Some call it pragmatism......if so, that's just another word for "political double talk" or lets just be blunt..."lies"!

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 12:21:52 AM

      cowin, you forgot one biggie:

      OBAMA SAYS: Don???t tell me words dont matter!


      OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us! They DONT pose a serious threat to us. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!

      TWO Days later . . .

      OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat, really! Iran is a GREAT threat! I am not kidd'n this time.

      WHAT does Obama really believe????? What are we supposed to think when he keeps telling us words DO matter? .

      video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 2:16:46 AM

        Share -

        You rock! Go get em, gal!

        Nobody could beat you at playing the angel's advocate!

        Nice hearing from you again!

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 2:29:56 AM

          Hi Davole, sorry about the 'i' I added to your name. LOL. When I write these replies I cannot see the bloggers name in their post so not knowing you as well as I did initially I somehow thought you had an 'I' in your blogger name. Sorry about that! When it comes to this presidential race, I have to tell you I am still surprised that there is, at least as of today, that the spread between McCain and Obama on Gallup, anyways, was only 5. With what was supposed to be a boon from Hillary's promo of Obama I would have thought it would have gone double digit. But I of all people know why cuz although I respect Hillary and supported her there are some real concerns I still have about Obama. But then, I wish McCain would put more gusto into his campaign. I cant believe he is doing so well and I am assuming with restructuring of his campaign to give more responsibility to that senior aide (forgot his name) that his campaign should do much better. Still not sold on him either. Waiting to see who both candidates pick for their VP on their ticket. : - )

          • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 6:39:38 PM

            Share -

            Gee, you were wide awake late last night and early this morning.
            And those green eyes of yours were definitely clear as a bell (or should that be ???belle????).

            No need for you to apologize for your attempt to change my screen name - I'll proudly carry any name that you might care to call me.

            Regarding your use of the expression "LOL" - which of its several meanings was your intention?

            Have you seen any posts from Woodford Reserve yet? LOTF!

            Like you, I am also (in my case - pleasantly) surprised by the public's roughly equal polled support for both McCain and Obama. But I think that as time goes on, more and more of the public will realize what an empty suit Obama is. And I believe that his state senator's voting record (129 times he voted "present" on a motion - not very presidentially capable) will come back to bite and haunt him. That response of his would probably suffice in a kindergarten setting, but would prove grossly inadequate as a president.
            But I am aware that many young Americans would accept that inadequacy for their leader.

            It appears as though the Hillary supporter segment of the democrat party are the real thinkers - that is why I believe Obama's approval rating has not skyrocketed - they are reserving their judgment.

            Like you (yes, I do), I would prefer that McCain display more dynamic enthusiasm in this campaign.
            He would not have been my first choice for the Republican candidate. but I look forward to him engaging in debate with Obama, which so far, the idolized messiah is doing his best to avoid.

            Besides, the effectiveness of a teleprompter really diminishes in a debate.

            I wonder whether Obama's strategy will be to flaunt the race card, the perpetual victim one, or the phantom undefined hope and change card (which is deviously crafted to mean whatever anyone wants or expects it to mean).

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 11:46:42 PM


              Hey, Davole. How is it going? Thanks for the flag cuz I sure missed this one. (What made you say green eyes? Actual green w/touch of gray, more like Sage Green???hahaha). Yeah, I tend to be a nite owl. I take after my parents. Plus I don???t work a normal schedule. I am pretty flexible in what I do to earn a living. And yes, you guessed it right. My career has been centered mostly within the communications and marketing arena over the years. Thanks for the compliment about my writing in these blogs. I try to stay away from being mean, but once in awhile I can stray and write stuff like h*ll . As for Tim Russert, I absolutely loved that guy and respected him totally not only in regards to his work and his love of his profession, but also as a wonder human being as could be seen in the way he spoke of his dad, wife, dad; his family as a whole. I didn???t realize how much of a hole he would leave with us American people who watched him regularly on Meet the Press. It was truly a shock. I know I will surely miss him. I cant think of another who could permanently take his place on Meet the Press as he is irreplaceable.

              LOL has more that one meaning? I had no idea. Naïve I guess. I just thought it was (albeit overused) the abbrev for Laughing Out Loud (at least that is what I meant by LOL in my blog to you). : ) As for Woodford Reserve (I think you mentioned this blogger(?) before). . . I cant imagine what LOTF mean. Sounds like I don???t want to know.

              As for McCain, I think it was a very good move to get some life into that campaign by giving more responsibility to his senior aide (forgot the guys name) as he helped last fall to pump something into the campaign when he was more involved back then when everyone saw that McCain was falling behind the other Repub candidates in favorability. Then all of a sudden, McCain was on top as a forerunner.

              I really look forward to see what happens as the summer goes on between the Obama and McCain camp. It should be an interesting race to the GE. ; - )

              • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 5:12:25 AM

                Share -

                You ask - "how is it going"? - Fantastic, especially since you read my reply, and responded to it.

                With regard to my mentioning your "green eyes" - it was more than just a lucky guess.
                Maybe it would lean a little more toward being somewhat of an educated guess.
                With regard to your adding the "sage" element - that was evident by the quality of your blogs.

                I realized that you are definitely a night owl(ette)!

                Like you, I also don't work a normal schedule. I'm self employed, and usually research the internet in the morning, make a few phone calls to customers and / or my client employer, and then around noon decide which region of my territory I should work, based on what I had accomplished there previously, and whatever leads I had discovered.
                Usually, my most difficult decision is - where would I like to go for lunch?
                Then I just build my work schedule around the other considerations.
                My realm is marketing and sales. Maybe that's why I believe that we seem to see "eye to eye" on several issues and methodology.

                I can never envision you as being "mean".

                I'm grateful to you for welcoming me to this website a few weeks ago.
                Do you also do voluntary work for the Welcome Wagon?

              • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 5:06:44 AM

                My general intention is to discuss, and if need be (I realize that is a subjective consideration), speak my mind, and even challenge what I regard to be falsehoods (whether lies or misconceptions).
                I am determined to show respect for other bloggers to whom I direct my replies by refraining from name calling.
                But if it seems evident that another blogger is intentionally trying to insult me, then I can be somewhat sarcastic. Sometimes my attempt at humour is somewhat self-depreciating, and other times it is more directed toward my accuser. But I never intend to bear a grudge, or wish anyone harm. I do readily admit that often I do tend to exhibit what may be termed a wry sense of humour. In a nutshell - that's who I am. I'm a free-thinking individual who values that aspect of my identity.

                I do appreciate your profound respect for Tim Russert. I consider him to be the ideal reporter, interviewer, and commentator And I'm sure that individuals, not only in the US, but rather worldwide have an admiration for him. He was the consummate caring professional, who humbly displayed a concern and respect for his family, his teachers, and everyone else with whom he interacted.

                Yes, Share, LOL does have more than one meaning - google it if you would care to explore the others!
                And as for LOTF, it's not offensive - google that also if you may be interested in its meaning.

                LOTF!

              • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 5:03:16 AM

                Through interacting with you, I have gained some respect for individuals in the Hillary camp. I do believe in and support the stated PUMA proposals.

                I do not have much admiration for Bill Clinton, primarily due to his having allegedly raped or at least taken advantage of the 6 women who had made accusations to that affect. And the fact that there were 6 of them, and the blue dress with its physical evidence tends to support my belief that he had abused his position of authority over them.

                I guess that I just couldn't understand how he could retain his "patron saint" status in the democrat party after those allegations and investigations.

                In a previous blog, I had mentioned a sort of personal "litmus test" which I consider to determine whether I have respect for any person - it may be a "male thing", but it "boils down" to whether I would care to pay for and share a beer or coffee with the other individual.

                With regard to Bill Clinton - no.

                With regard to Hillary Clinton - I resent the alleged actions in which she supposedly directed efforts to investigate and destroy the reputations of the 6 women who had claimed that Bill Clinton had abused them.

                I guess that I might agree to purchase and share a bottle of plonk wine with her, if the opportunity would ever be afforded. My motivating factor would be a curiosity regarding what really "makes her tick", psychologically.

                In comparison, with regard to you, change that bottle of plonk to a fine bottle of red or white wine, or champagne, and change that motive or reason to showing appreciation for you being you.

                In a few of my replies to you, I have attempted to "kid or joke around" with you, in a friendly but possibly (I confess) teasing manner. Please pardon my manners (or lack thereof) in this regard.

              • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 4:58:33 AM

                Now, getting back to discussing politics again.

                John McCain wasn't my favourite Republican candidate for this election (I would have preferred Mitt Romney), but I do believe that John McCain has more experience and integrity than Barack Obama. It surprises me how Obama, with only 143 days experience as a Senator, could be catapulted into prime consideration for the democrat nomination. I believe that he is too inexperienced, and that he has demonstrated poor judgement regarding his choice of political opportune acquaintances. And the undefined "hope and change" mantra does tend to "ring hollow", at least for me.

                I believe that the party platforms would be the deciding factor in this election. The Republican proposals do tend to be much more optimistic, positive, and professional. Also, the fact that the Republicans offer a solution to the oil dependency problem, whereas the democrat policy of merely hope and change should weigh heavily.

                Health care, whether universal or private, would also be a major consideration.
                I would like to see both candidates publicly discuss their health plan proposals in a series of debates.

                I would definitely be very wary of allowing the federal government to grow massively in order to administer any form of universal health care.

                I notice that several states - New York, Michigan, and California, which are all controlled by democrat governments, seem to be close to bankruptcy. If democrat principles are responsible for the failed policies in those states, I wonder whether it would be intelligent and prudent to put any faith in a democrat federal government to function effectively, successfully, and fiscally responsibly.

              • Posted By: Davole @ 07/09/2008 4:53:16 AM

                The choice of a candidate for the VP position is also important for each party.
                I don't know whether General David Petraeus would care to shift from a military career to a political one, but if he does, I believe that would cinch the election for the Republicans, if he chose to allow himself to be considered for their VP position.

                And I do not appreciate the democrat party's past display of a lack of appreciation and respect for the US military and its members. I think that Senator Kerry"s false allegations that US troops regularly committed inhumane acts against innocent civilians in Vietnam, and the disrespect which many democrats displayed to returning veterans was abominable, a real disgrace.

                Likewise, the comments of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama were an utter disgrace to General Petraeus and the military itself. It almost seemed as though they actually wanted the war in Iraq and Afghanistan to fail. In my estimation, granted - as an outsider - how un-American!

                Just as you do, I also "look forward to see what happens as the summer goes on between the Obama and McCain camp. It should be an interesting race to the GE."

                I love your overall optimism and dedication.
                Gee, are you sure that you???re not a Republican?

                Either way, as I???ve said before - you???re definitely my favourite RINO!

          • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 6:34:04 PM

            I believe that the American voters, instead of being fixated on the 2 candidates, will vote instead according to their perception of the quality of the platform of each party. The Republicans have done remarkably well in ensuring that there have not been any repeats of 9/11, their military and foreign policy is much more capable and pragmatic, and their economic policy measures would be much less expensive and wasteful. And I believe that smaller government is more productive and innovative that big bloated government which tries to be all things for all people, at a grossly exaggerated and unrealistic price.

            And the cost to implement each party's program will have a definite impact on this election.

            Also, like you, I am "waiting to see who both candidates pick for their VP on their ticket???.
            That could be a real trump card in this election. Hopefully McCain will choose a more strategically attractive partner to "keep him in line", appeal to the more traditional conservative base of the party, and unite the party.

            Share, I really do appreciate your highly developed insight with regard to US politics, and life in general. You are acutely (and probably cute, too) aware of the issues, your research prowess is impeccable, and your method of delivering your opinions surpasses probably all of the talking heads on the various snooze networks. I don't know what you do for a living, but I am sure that you would definitely be a reporter or commentator in the realm of Tim Russert. If you would ever care to explore that avenue, please let me know - I would gladly provide a supportive letter of reference.

            You're an opinionated intelligent feisty babe with a remarkable personality, and I love you for it!

            Something tells me that you blush easily - that shade suites you to a ???T???.

            Continue doing that at which you excel!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/04/2008 7:27:57 PM

      cowen -

      democrats would view this as "fine-tuning" his platform.

      • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/06/2008 9:43:07 AM

        " Fine Tunning" is a political strategic word dressed to minimize what the act truelly means..... I imagine the voters would call it "pandering' or "flip flopping" or just plain "lies".

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 4:42:49 PM

          cowen -

          I agree with the validity of your statement.

          I was only informing the public what lame type of defense the democrats would use to try to legitimize the attempts of Obama to (let's use the politically correct term here) "stretch the truth" i.e. - lie.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 4:30:54 PM

    New Pro-Hillary website launched today. Sign the pledge to get her name on the ballot!

    Here is the new site. Check it out: http://www.together4us.com/

    THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!

    We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:

    Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:

    Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)

    Ensuring a roll-call vote

    Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage

    Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.

    Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.

    Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.

    Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.

    We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/07/2008 8:14:47 PM

      Share -

      Although I personally do not support the democrat party, I do believe that these proposals are warranted, and should be honoured at the DNC convention!

      • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/08/2008 11:23:52 PM

        I've made up my mind for Mccain....and have gained respect for his humble ways of running this campaign each day. However, I'll sign the petition....after all, Hillary did win the majority vote and was only denied the nomination due to math established by politicians....self serving women politicians and sexist male politicians. The DNC should be ashame of themselves...carried on with the gender bias in that manner....I swear, each time I think about it, I find myself writing another check to Mccain.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/09/2008 12:33:31 AM

          I hear ya cowen. I have written checks to Hillarys campaign to help with debt, but havent gone as far as you yet to write a check for McCain. I am waiting on seeing who the VP picks are for both parties; although I am hearing there are many Hillary supporters that felt that she got such a raw deal with the DNC and the MSM (majority, including me) that checks have been flowing to McCain instead of to Obama in those cases. And in the cases where the Hillary supporters that do shift to Obama automatically (the pure democrats), they are on board to vote for Mr. O, but they have been making contributions to Hillary to help pay off her debt (cuz they figure Obama has enough supporters based on primaries) rather than to contribute to Obamas campaign.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 11:27:42 PM

        Davole, I love the fact that you support it...It's like Bush supporting...well anything or anybody...lol

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/07/2008 11:53:21 PM

          HDavidson -

          Right on!

          And I am sure that your President, George W. Bush, being a man of integrity (do democrats know that word? - they never use it!), would probably also endorse that proposal.

          After all, democrats do really need to exhibit some principles!

          p.s. Did I direct a reply to one of your posts about a week ago?
          If so, have you come up with an answer yet?

          • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 4:07:32 AM

            HDavidson -

            Ah, it's coming back to me!

            You are that same person who, 2 weeks ago, was repeatedly posting the same ridiculous comment until I questioned you concerning whether you fit your own stated definition.

            And then you ceased to continue posting that same rant - good decision!

            Well, it looks as though for you it's a wide open road ahead. Ride on!
            But make sure that you are wearing a helmet!

            Also, concentrate on the road ahead, but smile.

            And I forgot to mention - clear your visor once in a while - it does help you to see things "straight"!

            Definitely don't over-rev. That could leave you stranded.

            But if I see you by the roadside - I'll offer you a lift - I sure do enjoy the conversation.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 12:40:33 AM

        Thanks, I believe strongly about addressing these proposals. : - )

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/07/2008 11:37:44 PM

        Share -

        Is it true that at the DNC convention, all of the Hillary supporters will be wearing specially designed PUMA footware - Obama flip-flops?

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 12:13:30 AM

          Not a bad idea. There was one blogger on this site I thought I saw that directed a linnk to a site where you can actually buy them!

  • Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/08/2008 10:23:07 PM

    Wake up America....Michael Dukakis had a double digit lead over Reagan in the summer polls and then he got destroyed in November. Obama-fever is media based right now.....NOT reality based. Around "non-black" America, east coast, west coast and midwest....he's viewed as a sham. And....the issue of Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright is being discussed at the water cooler by White, Asian and Jewish Americans every day more and more. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan, who was given a lifetime achievement award. (wow) Birds of a Feather....and most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. - And now....46-44....the Obama Fever Gap is wearing off fast. - John McCain will win this election.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 5:44:55 PM

    Beware of the Pumas. . . Be Be afraid, be VERY afraid. : - )

    175 PATRIOTS CAN SAVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
    BY NOMINATING THE TRUER DEMOCRAT

    The fate of the United States ??? and the future of the Democratic Party ??? now rests with a minimum of 175 Democratic delegates who must now exercise their mature political judgment in the service of their country, and turn away from Obama to support Senator Clinton.

    As of now, Obama has about 2229.5 delegate votes, with 1766.5 pledged delegates and 463 super delegates.

    Clinton has 1896.5 delegate votes, with 1639.5 pledged and 257 super delegates.

    Shift just 175 delegates from Obama to Clinton, and Obama???s power grab comes to a halt.

    There must be no nomination of Obama on the first ballot. Once Obama has failed to secure the nomination on the first ballot, the party will be able to reflect on who the nominee ought to be, based on the experiences of June, July, and August.

    Senator Clinton is pledged to an orderly, sane, and secure pullout. Clinton wants mandatory universal health care and a freeze on foreclosures. She wants to shift the federal gasoline tax away from motorists, truckers, and farmers and towards the Oil Industry.

    Obama is on the wrong side of all of these issues.

    Hillary Clinton is and has always been on the side of traditional Democratic Party values.

    We want a president from the Democratic Party, not from a small group of elite, libertarian Neo-Liberals. Lexington and Concord were started by a few dozen farmers.

    Does the Democratic Party still have 175 patriots with the courage to take a stand?

    PUMAS URGE YOU TO BRING TO AND END WHAT HAS BEEN A MOST FRAUDULENT CAMPAIGN

    We are PUMAs ??? Democrats who reject an automatic proxy vote.

    Instead, we are fighting for real Democratic Party values and the future of the party we love and still claim as our own.

    We call on the delegates to the Denver convention to search their consciences, their experiences in past elections, and their own common sense.

    Our party has had enough of defeat and retreat. We must not allow the DNC to impose on us yet another losing General Election candidate.

    Obama???s anemic poll numbers already foreshadow defeat in November, and his continuing sellout on the issues is only making matters worse.

    We urge you to reconsider your vote for Obama, and to instead vote for Senator Clinton ??? the strongest candidate, the people???s choice in the popular vote, and the candidate who has and will continue steadfastly to represent the core pillars of the Democratic Party.

    Vote to seat Michigan and Florida at full strength as elected in the January primary. Organize your fellow delegates to block Obama.

    Vote for Clinton, for victory in November, and for an end to the long nightmare of the Iraq war.

    Will Bower (in cooperation with other PUMAs)
    PUMA / Just Say NO DEAL
    PUMA08.com


    • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/06/2008 9:05:38 PM

      SHE RAN A BAD CAMPAIGN. Face it. She has. She came in with the money, name, recognition, machine and fame and got beaten so bad by a half black junior senator with a muslim name that she is 20 million in the hole and was mathmatically eliminated a quarter of a year ago...............That doesn't worry you? She came in with the highest negatives of all time-that had nothing to do with Obama but if you guys are looking for a man to blame for her downfall there are 2 of them-look no urther than MARK PENN and BILL CLINTON. They almost seemed as if they were sabotoging her...........I can't believe Penn accidentally thought California was a winner take all state.........

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 10:55:26 PM

        sirhc -

        How dare you, as a junior poster to this site, blatantly defame the idolized messiah, Barack Obama, by racistly calling him half black! And then you had the gall to go even further in ridiculing him by stating that he has a Muslim name. Have you no shame?

        As Hillary and Barack both have stated previously - shame on you, shame on you, shame on you!

        But you do bring up an interesting question!

        If Barack Obama were ever to steal this election, would he be considered America???s first black president, or its second one (with Bill Clinton having the distinction as being its first)?

        And then, if he were to really flop by running a dysfunctional, inept, vastly bankrupt government, would he be relegated to the distinction of being America???s first mulatto or bi-racial president?

        Would the DNC care to clarify this matter?

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 11:35:18 PM

          The cool thing is BUSH will be the LAST whitesupremist male to be in the white house for at least 8yrs. Unless Hill were to get in there somehow lol

          There will be NO stealing of this election, just a MASSIVE victry and and sad old man who is still trying to figure out what a "kurd" is...lol

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 12:34:56 AM

            Yeah, and Obama spent the Fourth of July waving his 57 States American flag in the Butte Montana parade. LOL.

            • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 11:44:29 AM

              Share -

              OK - since you raised the topic of flags - I can't "pass up" this golden opportunity!

              In a previous reply to you, I had stated that generally I don't post flags.
              But now, out of my respect for you, I'm definitely willing to make at least one exception.
              This is my confidential (don't tell anyone else) flag - you may care to view my 2 part reply sent to you at 07/06/2008 18:39:38, and a few minutes earlier.

              I realize that it's "somewhat forward," but that's my style.

              Any comments?

              • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 7:20:53 PM

                Hi Davole, thanks for the flag. I have to run out for awhile. Will take a look and respond later on. Thanks again. : )

            • Posted By: loriw @ 07/08/2008 1:44:40 AM

              Wow, I knew Sen. Obama had reconfigured the Presidential seal, has he now reconfigured the American flag too? I took a few hours off to go to a party over the holiday weekend and missed all the important stuff.

              • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 11:16:02 AM

                Lori -

                Yeh, I saw Obama's substitute American flag yesterday - it definitely has 57 yellow x's & o's in place of the white stars which are on the authentic version.

                And the stripes are now black and white as a sign of respect for his convicted close associate supporters.

                Supposedly this revision was designed by the brightest minds in his organization.
                All hail from the same kindergarten class in Chicago.
                Their median age is 21.

                Party on!

                • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 11:21:37 AM

                  Lori -

                  And if Obama were ever to steal this election, he would probably change both the official name and colour scheme of the White House!

                  Scary, isn't it?

          • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 10:49:18 AM

            HDavidson -

            I noticed that you deftly avoided answering the Obama status questions which I had posed.
            I guess that your hands were tied, huh?

            Somehow I thought that you actually had some authority in the democrat party - go figure!

            But I doubt your assertion that Obama won't try to steal this election.
            I have seen reports that his camp has already begun to canvas and enumerate the cemetery vote!

            Ride on - but do watch out for the speed bumps and potholes!

            If I should ever see you pedalling the other way, I'll give you a "high five".
            No, come to think of it, I'll also even do that whenever you are coasting downhill.

            High-5!

            But do watch out for what's coming around the bend.

            p.s. - You may have your helmet on backwards!

            And you're definitely one of my favourite playmates!

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/08/2008 6:08:24 PM

    Senator Obama...don't say you're different! show us you're different! because your words have no value.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 4:18:57 PM

    Top Story
    Gallup Daily:

    Obama 46%

    McCain 44%

    Wow. Last I knew a few days back Obama had at least a 6 point lead.

    July 8, 2008

    The nation???s registered voters remain closely divided in their presidential preferences, with 46% of those interviewed in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 5-7 saying they will vote for Democrat Barack Obama and 44% favoring Republican John McCain.

    More: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108700/Gallup-Daily-Obama-46-McCain-44.aspx

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 2:49:35 AM

    OKAY, maybe I am asking the obvious questiion. But why does Newsweek continue to post such an outdated article .

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 5:13:32 AM

      Share -

      I have heard rumours that "so far", only 5 Obamabots have managed to "figure out" how to actually read this article.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/07/2008 6:40:02 PM

      I'm not sure what newsweek's criteria is but I wonder if activity on the blog-number of posts will keep and older article on the site. Other article that don't have much blog activity seem to disappear quickly.
      I sure wish newsweek would keep old post from showing up on new articles, that happens all the time, new article with posts that belonged to a different article and the posts are a month old.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/08/2008 12:32:13 AM

        Yes, like the Low-Information article (e.g. candidates being on Ellen, Leno, ET, etc.). That article is back again from early June.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 12:59:34 PM

    Did you know that if McCain is elected you will have to pay income tax on the value of the medical insurance that your employer gives you? Worse still, he is offering a tax break for people who pay their own insurance, BUT only $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families.

    Let's say you have a family of four. Your insurance policy costs would be at least $1,500-2,500 per month under a self-pay plan, which cost more than employer group plans. So, you pay $18,000 -$30,000 per year for insurance, and you get to deduct only $5,000 of that. If you paid $25,000 for you insurance, you would be out of pocket $20,000 per year. This is FAR WORSE than the current system, where if you are self employed you can deduct 100% of you medical insurance costs.

    So, if you're not self employed, you would stick with your Employer's plan. Employer plans for a family of four have a value of $900-$1,500 per month totaling 10,800-$18,000 per year. Surprise! On April 15th, you owe tax on all of that as INCOME to you. Say your bracket is 25%, and the value of your Employer medical plan is $14,000. You will OWE THE IRS an additional $3,500, and that's ON TOP of whatever monthly premium you already pay to your employer for your insurance.

    Many analysts say that McCain's new rules would encourage employers to stop offering health benefits. If that happened, then far fewer Americans would be insured than are insured today, because what family of four can afford $18,000-$30,000 out of pocket per year for self-pay health insurance?

    Furthermore, McCain's plan does not require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions of people who self-pay their insurance. People under employer group plans have all of their pre-existing conditions covered. This is a hugely unfair aspect of the current system. Insurance companies can afford to cover the pre-existing conditions of the much larger pool of people with group insurance, but they refuse to pay the pre-existing conditions on the smaller pool of self-pay customers. They have been allowed to price gouge the self-pay customers, which is a form of market manipulation that should be illegal.

    So let's say one of your kids had diabetes and you have high blood pressure, then your employer stops offering insurance. You now have to buy your own, but you and your child are INELIGIBLE due to pre-existing conditions. Oh, yeah, they will let you buy the insurance, but you can't use it for any pre-existing condition until you have paid on time every month for two years. And you know what happens at one year and 11 months? You get a letter saying your policy has been cancelled. I have many patients this has happened to.

    McCain's plan SUCKS.

    It does nothing to help middle class working Americans afford or obtain medical insurance. In fact, it makes the current system WORSE.

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/29/mccain_unveils_health_care_pla.html?nav=rss_email/components

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 4:44:57 AM

      Nins -

      Wow, I'm impressed!
      Once in a while, you actually do post a meaningful topic.

      Although I do not always take your stated authority as an absolute qualification, I believe that it would be meritorious for both candidates to publicly address the issue of universal health care vs. private health care.

      I believe that the best forum would be a series of publicized debates.

      John McCain has previously proposed a series of 10 debates on relevant issues, but somehow the empty suite is determined to avoid agreeing to that proposal.

      If it makes a difference, I'm quite sure that McCain would even grant permission for Barack Obama to utilize his teleprompter, and maybe also be supported by a biased partisan cheering gallery of mindless young Obamabots.

      I would suggest that 3 respected economists qualified in assessing medical cost analysis comprise the panel which would structure and conduct the debates.

      Would your candidate be willing to participate?
      I would suspect that he already has a tight schedule flipping hamburgers and policy positions, but would he consider these proposed debates to be worthy of his eminent participation?

  • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 07/06/2008 8:50:42 AM

    Add this question. 9.Would you be willing to send our bravest and best young women and men to die in iraq just to gain the votes of the out of touch, mouth-breathing right wing wack jobs that make up 23% of the Republican party?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 2:29:15 AM

      Well, if you can read the HIDDEN message in which OBAMA finally answers McCains challenge to make an IRAQ visit this summer, he is being forced into making an admittion that his original steadfast stance of getting out of Iraq carefully (but no specific mention back then about talking to the generals/leaders prior to taking office but WHEN he took office) was his original IRAQ plan. Thank goodness for McCain prodding him to go there for this specific reason to checkout status on the war at hand.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 11:40:01 PM

        You know ho w I hate to burst bubbles here, it's just so unlike me, but HIS POSITION HAS NOT CHANGED ON IRAQ!!!! duh...google it he has stated from day one, that he would take the advice of the commanders on the ground, NOT THE BUSH PUPPETS but the actual comanders. He has and does remain CONSISTANT...but hey nice talking point though ;)

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/08/2008 3:45:29 AM

          HDavidson -

          No, on this one, I agree with sharenews - the empty suite had stated on day one that he would be "outta der" immediately. Then after the flack hit, he revamped his story to include that he would actually consult the generals, of all people.

          And who knows what his position tomorrow will be. But it might change the day after, and then again, the day after that.

          After all, we must remember that Barack Obama is the candidate of loose change!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 9:45:43 PM

      Bass Pro -

      It appears as though you might not be a pro, but rather an amateur at this sport!
      Face the facts - you've got lots of bait, but no catches, and only 1 nibble from a supporter.

      Would you care to consider shifting to another activity?
      Maybe crossword puzzles would challenge your mind.
      No, forget that.

      How about tiddlywinks? That might be more your style.

      Here's hoping for you!

    • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/06/2008 9:40:01 AM

      GOOD ONE! Here's a few more

      10. Would you block the name of the pastor's coming in and out of the Whitehouse like Bush and Cheney? Which is the first time in American History-what are you trying to hide?. I don't think Jesus would approve of that.........

      11. Would you have a tax break for only the top 1%-even during war time? I don't seee Jesus approving something like that......

      12. Would you call your wife a curse word and think it's funny when someone calls Hillary a similar curse word like McCain did? I don't think Jesus would approve of that........

      13. Would you have people like Eazy E(inventor of Gangster Rap, ex drug lord, ex pimp, ex gang banger-I say ex because he died of full blown AIDS years ago) over in the WhiteHouse for dinner like Bush Sr. did because he was giving to your campaign? I don't think Jesus would approve of that.........

      14. In the middle of a crisis such as the oil situation-would you still try and put more wealth into the hands of the people who are promoting the criss( Oil Executives and the Speculators) at the expense of the middle class by drilling knowing IF the middle class saw any positive financial affect it would be almost a decade from now and with the knowledge that it's not a supply and demand issue because if it really was the Oil Companies would drill on some of the 68,000+ acres of land they lease but won't touch because they would make MORE BILLIONS drilling off shore? I don't think Jesus would approve of that.....

      • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 07/06/2008 9:51:09 AM

        and the list goes on...................

        bella12

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/07/2008 2:43:32 PM

    UH-OHHHHHH.....Sounds like a GOP implosion......

    Conservatives to battle McCain over platform!
    Activists don???t want his views on warming, stem cells, other issues adopted!

    Washington Post
    updated 12:21 a.m. ET, Mon., July. 7, 2008

    "Conservative activists are preparing to do battle with allies of Sen. John McCain in advance of September's Republican National Convention, hoping to prevent his views on global warming, immigration, stem cell research and campaign finance from becoming enshrined in the party's official declaration of principles.

    McCain has not yet signaled the changes he plans to make in the GOP platform, but many conservatives say they fear wholesale revisions could emerge as candidate McCain seeks to put his stamp on a document that currently reflects the policies and principles of President Bush. "

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25561143

    Not only will he lose, but ol' McC won't have a "political" home after November.

    BTW, has anyone seen the Electoral Map? Obama leading 238 to 163.....OUCH!!!!!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/07/2008 11:24:15 PM

      Kboogie -

      I always enjoy reading your posts - mainly for comic relief.

      No implosion here - you have to look to the democrat empty suite campaign for that.

      This is just the Conservative base of the Republican Party inviting John McCain to cross the aisle to be told that he would have to change his view on Global Warming (or is it Global Cooling), Illegal Immigration, Stem cell Research, and a few other topics in order for him to gain their support.
      I think that conversation will achieve its intended purpose.

      And if the election were to be stolen from him, I doubt that he would be homeless.
      No, he would probably be rewarded with a seat of honour in the democrat party.

      BTW - Has anyone seen the Electoral Map for Nov. 04, 2008?
      Kboogie - just in case no one else has told you - that is the only one that really matters!

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 07/07/2008 9:47:03 AM

    Yes Newsweek........continue to keep this Fabricated Bounce on the front page....close your eyes, make a wish everyday and maybe the poll fairy will come and make it come true. What a farce!

    NOBOUNCE NOBAMA!

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/07/2008 6:34:53 PM

      I've been a little surprised how long newsweek has kept this article up.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/07/2008 6:34:37 PM

      I've been a little surprised how long newsweek has kept this article up.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 12:59:18 PM

    Did you know McCain has had 4 different campaign managers? McCain just can't get it right. He keeps changing managers, as if it is their fault that he can not succeed. Fact is, McCain is NOT a good candidate.

    After his first run at the Presidency when he got swift boated by Bush, his manager John Weaver got McCain to play "Maverick" and cross party lines to become a NeoLiberal. McCain almost changed parties and became a Democrat and Kerry's running mate, but at the 11th hour he switched horses again and hired Terry Nelson to manage him. Nelson is a strong GOP establishmentarianist, and got McCain to throw himself behind Bush, with promises of the GOP giving him the 2008 nomination. But Nelson didn't last, because the strategy failed. The right wing was suspicious of McCain because McCain voted against abortion, for gay rights and for gun control during his "maverick" phase. They didn't know if they could trust him. Also, Nelson spent money hand over fist, nearly bankrupting McCain's campaign. So he replaced him with Rick Davis, who was at the helm for the past year. Davis is a fiscal conservative, made McCain sell that expensive big bus, and made McCain mind his manners and act polite in public. But now, Davis has been fired too. Why? Because McCain is getting desperate, and the gloves are coming off. His new manager is Steve Schmidt, a Rove disciple and former Rove employee. McCain has also hired Nicole Wallace and Greg Jenkins to head his "Communications Team." Nic and Greg are also former Rove employees, masters of the art of swift boat smear campaigns. McCain going to let the Rove bulldogs off the leash. Look out, America, this is going to get ugly.

    My prediction: the 20% of America that is made up of ignorant jingoists will be cheering to see Rove's bloody tactics. But you know what? They were all going to vote for McCain anyway. The rest of America will be so disgusted by the hatchet work of the NeoCons that they will vote AGAINST McCain.

    The "last resort" tactic of the GOP to win this election will be to bomb Iran, starting another war. Mark my words, if McCain is not doing well in September, Bush will bomb Iran. He is already setting the stage for this, by saying that Iran has nuclear weapons, even though inspections by the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency have both found NO EVIDENCE of nuclear weapons. REMIND YOU OF ANYTHING? It's the fake "weapons of mass destruction" all over again.

    Did you know that on June 26, Bush, very quietly, declared a state of National Emergency? During a National Emergency the President can DECLARE WAR without waiting for the approval of Congress.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/06/20080626-4.html

    It is going to be a very bumpy ride, America, so hold on, and DON'T LET BUSH AND ROVE STEAL ANOTHER ELECTION. I wouldn't mind so much if they were good for the economy, but let's face it, they are destroying America.

  • Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/07/2008 8:14:55 AM

    Michael Dukakis has a double digit lead over Reagan in the summer polls and then got destroyed in November. Obama-fever is media based right now.....NOT reality based. Around "non-black" America, east coast, west coast and midwest....he's viewed as a sham. And....the issue of Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright is being discussed at the water cooler by White, Asian and Jewish Americans every day more and more. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan, who was given a lifetime achievement award. (wow) Birds of a Feather....and most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. - John McCain will win this election.

  • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/03/2008 11:17:37 PM

    THE WORST THING ABOUT MCCAIN AND THE ECONOMY IS HIS NOW MORBID EMBRACE FOR BUSH'S TAX CUTS. HE SAID IN 2001 AND 2003 THAT-"THEY WERE ONLY FOR THE WEALTHIEST AND AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDL CLASS, THEY WERE FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AND THEY WOULD MAKE US VERY VULNERABLE."- HE WAS RIGHT AND THAT'S WHY HE VOTED AGAINST THEM TWICE. NOW HE'S SAYING THEY ARE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AND HIS PLAN IS TO MAKE THEM BIGGER? IT'S TRULY DISTURBING BECAUSE HE WAS 100% CORRECT FIRST OFF AND THE ARGUEMENT AGIANST THEM IN 2008 SHOULD ONLY BE STRONGER. IS HE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING TO BE PRESIDENT-EVEN FINISH OFF OUR ECONOMY?

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/05/2008 10:53:53 AM

      sirhc -

      Welcome to the Newsweek blog site!

      Since no one else has decided to respond to your post, I???ll do that.

      First ???off??? - the unnecessary use of capital letters in a post is generally considered to be in poor taste. Would you care to post in lower case like most of us do?

      You may want to consider whether you are being judgmental or biased as opposed to correct when you agree or disagree with any particular comment which McCain has made.
      Case in point - your statement that he was 100% correct when he opposed tax reductions.
      Whether he was correct or incorrect in that viewpoint is not dependent upon whether you choose to agree or disagree with that opinion.

      Also, you seem to be unaware that tax reductions actually do stimulate the economy.

      To learn why this is true, consider visiting a public, high school, or university library to browse through an economics course textbook. Or possibly consider doing a search on the internet by asking the question -???What effect do tax reductions have on the economy????

      I hope that you would appreciate these comments of mine, and take them in the spirit in which they were offered.

      • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/05/2008 7:35:12 PM

        While I appreciate your comments(I write in caps for eyesight reasons) -Let me give you why you are wrong and why you need to bone up on your history.

        1. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TAX BREAK DURING WAR TIME IN THIS COUNTRY'S HISTORY. THE REASON-BECAUSE IT WOULD DESTROY THE ECONOMY-THIS IS WHAT WE ARE WITNESSING NOW.

        2. TAX CUTS FOR THE TOP 1% NEVER HELPED THE ECONOMY. GEORGE BUSH'S OWN FATHER CALLED THIS "VODOO ECONOMICS". BUSH JR.'S TAX CUT IS THE RETARDED VERSION OF THE TRICKLE DOWN THEORY

        3. MY MAIN POINT ACTUALLY WAS-IF MCCAIN THOUGHT THEY WERE BAD FOR THE COUNTRY THEN-WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO CHANGE HIS MIND? IT SEEMS THAT THE ARGUEMENT AGAINST THEM HAS ONLY GROWN STRONGER.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 1:44:08 PM

          sirhc -

          Thanks for your reply!

          I respect, appreciate, and accept your stated reason for typing in caps.

          If I may say so, would an eye examination followed by a new set of eyeglasses help you, in case you hadn???t yet thought to consider or explored that option?

          Now, you are attempting to ???give??? (me) why (I) am WRONG (my emphasis) and why (I) need to bone up on (my) history. FIRE AWAY!

          • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/06/2008 8:59:05 PM

            You told me to visit a library when in all actuality it seems as if you are the one who needs boning up on this subject because you didn't reply to any of my statements.

            • Posted By: Davole @ 07/07/2008 3:32:18 AM

              sirhc -

              No, I didn't tell you to visit a library.
              If you would bother to read my reply, before launching into an attack on me, you would notice that I had suggested that you might choose to visit a library.

              This is a prime example of what I meant when I stated that your perceptions and hence opinions are shoddy. You definitely are unable to notice nuance differences, and you are rash to run into a tirade..

              And again, if you would only bother to read my replies, you would notice that I have addressed the points which you had raised.

              Don't bother to apologize - I don't really expect that you would be capable of doing that.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 1:40:13 PM

          The first part of your first point may be factually correct - I ???give??? you that much.
          But then you follow it with mere conjecture - your opinion.
          Your statement lacks validity - it has never been proven, because it never has happened.

          Also, the economy is not destroyed. It is experiencing problems, but you have ignored the effect and importance of other possible causes - namely Congressional obstructionism, excessive draining of the nation???s finances by the accumulated cost of many ridiculous earmarks, and the shoot yourself in the foot democrat decision to forbid both onshore and offshore drilling for oil.

          Now, to respond to your statement that ???tax cuts for the top 1% have never helped the economy.??? Are the current tax cuts and proposals for their continuance applicable only for the top 1%?
          Are they not targeted ???across the board???? I know that a lot of young minds like to narrowly focus on that dastardly percentage of the population that directly create employment (how dare they) which pays benefits for society in general. Do you know how much of the federal budget is actually funded by the income taxes paid by that reviled 1% - I believe the figure is 39% - Impressive! Now, don???t they also deserve a break? And how many other people would indirectly benefit if a tax break were to be given to that sector of the economy?

          I agree with part of your third point - the feeble unsubstantiated argument against tax cuts has definitely grown stronger, especially in the vast thought-inhibited sector of the democrat party.

          And in response to your wondering why McCain has changed his mind in this regard - maybe it is a rational result for him actually having decided to use his mind.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 1:34:42 PM

          Lastly, I wonder - why doesn???t the American public education system introduce and foster logic, rationale, and creative analytical thinking in its curriculum?

          Maybe your ???so-called??? educators believe that there are more important priorities, topics, and propaganda to teach, such as:
          - the proper technique to put on a condom.
          - why religion should be damned.
          - why fatherhood is not relevant to a feminist society.
          - why the US is responsible for all wars and natural disasters since the time of Jesus Christ.
          - why terrorists need to be respected.
          - why morality doesn???t matter in a ???progressive??? society.

          You have demonstrated yourself to be a prime example as the ???product or byproduct??? of that dysfunctional, values-lacking, perpetual cost-increasing falsely named educational system.

          Any further questions or comments?

  • Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/05/2008 1:28:37 PM

    Remember this very important fact: Michael Dukakis has a double digit lead over Reagan in the summer polls and hen got destroyed in November. The issue of Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright is being discussed at the water cooler by White, Asian and Jewish Americans every day more and more. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan, who was given a lifetime achievement award. (wow) Birds of a Feather....and most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. McCain will win this election.

    • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/05/2008 7:53:12 PM

      With all due respect-EVERY POLL SHOWS THAT BUSH WEIGHS HEAVIER ON MCCAIN THEN REV. WRIGHT DOES ON OBAMA BY FAAAAAR. People will be voting their pockets and commonsense this time and it's really obvious because Obama is leading in states like Montana

      1. You talk about Jewish voters but Obama is leading the polls globally-Peru, Bolivia, Europe, Australia-and yes-even Isreal. The fact that Isreal is right now talking with Hamas, Iran and Hezbollah puts the notion to rest.

      2. Even if Jewish voters have issues with Barack-and nothing shows they really do-the bigger iissue is McCain's problem with Catholics. There are waaaay more Catholics in this country. 70 million in total, 50 million in voting age. proper perspective-51 million people in total voted for Bush in 2004. The largest in history. It's in play now-Wright was at a all white 10,000 member Catholic church 3 months ago-when they stated he was in the building-HE GOT A STANDING OVATION.-

      3. Some women may vote for McCain but I guarantee you most will vote for Obama and it won't be close. McCain has a 0 rating on women's rights-Obama has a perfect score. McCain will have judges that will overturn Roe v. Wade -Obama won't even come close. McCain said he won't fight pro lifers on incest and rape-Obama won't come close to that. McCain thought it was okay to call Chelsea Clinton ugly, her father Janet Reno and Hillary a B-I-T-C-H. You can't find a negative remark about HRC out of Obama in the last 4 months and even before the he was so tentative that the HRC campaign as calling him soft.

      I don't know if you noticed-But Obama is noooooo waaaay near a Dukakis and this is 2008. This is the information age-People will not be played this time. One person voted WITH Bush 95% of the time-The other person voted AGAINST Bush 95% of the time. Figure out who -and the guy who voted against Bush is the winner-AND IT WON'T BE CLOSE.

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 8:38:08 PM

        sirhc -

        Do you actually have a logical reason for beginning your post with ???With all due respect ...????
        I doubt that anyone would be offended by you posting YOUR opinion!

        And to which polls are you referring?
        Do you know how the questions were posed, by which organizations, and what were the margins of error? And were all the respondents merely democrats?
        That does make a difference.

        Yes, you are correct in realizing that ???people will be voting (with) their pockets and common sense this time???. That is why many voters, democrats included, will cast their vote for the Republican party which actually has a plan to lower gas prices within the short term by drilling for American oil located in America, of all places.

        You mention that ???Obama is leading the polls globally - Peru, Bolivia, Europe, Australia, and- yes-even Isreal???. Get real - there is no such country as Isreal! Maybe somehow you weren???t really paying attention in class that day. Psst - confidentially - do you even know that the citizens in those countries do not have a vote in US elections? But hey, Obama is also endorsed by possibly all members of al Qaida, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Revolutionary Guard, the guerilla forces of Che Guevara, and also the democrat regimes of Cuba and Venezuela. Very impressive!

        But I???m impressed that you actually do realize the importance of the ???Catholic vote???. And WOW - the irreverent Wright actually ???GOT A STANDING OVATION??? in a supposedly Catholic church. Maybe the congregation was just standing to see him leave! I doubt that the congregation of that lone church is really representative of the opinion of most Catholics.
        And are you even aware that the issue of abortion is not supported by Catholics in general?

        As an aside question - do you even bother to attend church services regularly?
        Or do you pride yourself as a ???free thinker??? who has no use for archaic religious beliefs, since you are an enlightened member of the all-knowing ???NOW??? generation.

        • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/06/2008 9:31:27 PM

          1. I doubt all the respondents around the world were democrats because in most countries there aren't republicans and democrats, don't know the margin of error and it is a well known fact and common knowledge that Obama is beating McCain globally.
          2. Republican plans have gotten us where we are at. After 911 you had a Republican whitehouse, congress and a rublican leaning supreme court. You had our chance and blew it. 4000+ Americans dead and Bin Laden is still alive. You know what you guys would be saying if the shoes were on the other foot and Gore was president? Check yourself
          3. Oil crisis to republicans mean to ask for more drilling because it would put more money into their oil friends hands. That's what republicans love and known for. Making the rich, richer at the middle class expense. There is enough oil in the 68,000+ lands for 10 more years that they lease but won't touch it because they would make more billions drilling off shore. They would still make billions but of course, they need more billions. Therefore, It's not a supply and demand issue. Even if they did drill tomorrow-the consumer wouldn't see an affect for at least 5-8 years and that's IF the Oil Execs and Speculators let it. We all know it's not a coincidence that there are 2 oil boys in the whitehouse and the prices are where they are. The Execs and speculators are smart-they see Obama winning the election and their money shrinking so they are making the money grab now.
          4. Unfortunately polls matter globally thanks to the murdering of our reputation by Bush, Cheney and company. We had the whoel world on our side after 911 and the Genuis' Cowboy Bring it On attitude destroyed our good name. Also, we owe so many of these countries so much money that we have to take them into consideration. Look how now we like China, N. Korea and won't close the border to Mexico-We owe them billions. China basically owns us thanks to Bush -Heck-those stupid flag lapel pins are even made in China. My post was a reply to the alleged Jewish issue that Obama has but nothing shows it. That's why I said "EVEN" Isreal. Religion in politics is horrible-the framers knew it and that's why 51 million people voted for the worst president in history. I do like how you skip the fact that Isreal is speaking with Iran and Hamas. By the way-I lived in Ohio-The KKK still marches in southern Ohio-You want to now who they endorsed the last 2 presidential elections?
          5.There isn't a religion that "supports" abortion but also-there is no religion that "supports" being called the great whore or a cult.

          Questioning someone's religion is out of line. That's why there is seperation of church and state and just to give you a hint though-Questioning anyone's Christianity-rather it be Obama's or mine brings your own faith into light. Only the Lord is to question's a man's faith because no man is holy enough. Romans 3:23-For all have sinned come short the glory of God.

          • Posted By: Davole @ 07/07/2008 12:00:37 AM

            sirhc -

            Temper now! It looks like you're throwing a temper tantrum - not good.
            Time out! Go back into the corner to get control of yourself.

            As 3 other posters have previously suggested - relax - breathe in, hold it, and then expel.
            Possibly consider learning yoga.

            Your attention to detail is quite shoddy, and maybe that is why many of your opinions are not much better.

            This is the second time that I have informed you that there is no such country as "Isreal" - look it up in the dictionary - not there!

            You love to introduce the often touted unfounded suspicion that Bush is in cahoots with the oil companies.
            Who cares, even if it were true, but I doubt it? And I don't have proof, neither do you!

            How about the other unfounded democrat rumour - that Bush has Osama bin Laden in custody, and will parade him before the press just before the election?

            Maybe also Dennis Kusinich believes that aliens are protecting that terrorist - maybe he is even their leader.

            But the "bottom line is that the Republicans have a feasible plan to solve the energy crisis, and the democrats don't - they meekly promise hope and change, and hope and change, and hope and change.

            And you know what - hope and change will not move even one car, truck, airplane, train, or boat. They all need petroleum. Solar panels, windmills, biofuels, and magic potions will not "fill the bill".
            And the economy depends on the affordable movement of goods and services. Can you comprehend that?

            When motorists are frustrated at the gas pumps, they put more faith in the practical Republican Party to solve their needs, instead of the irrational democrat Party which offers no solutions to the problem - only pathetic inept criticism - no plan - no remedy.

            Yes, the public will definitely decide to "vote with their pockets" on this one.
            And they will remember that it was the policies of the Bill Clinton administration that got us all in this mess. If he had approved exploration and drilling, whether in ANWAR or anywhere else, the American oil would be flowing now. Comprende?

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/06/2008 8:28:19 PM

        Then you bring up (very picturesque) the issue of abortion.
        It may come as a surprise to you, but women actually do have a mind, and also a conscience.
        Maybe you should even try to socialize with some of them - or on second thought - better not!
        And over the past 5 years, there has been a significant reduction in the support for abortion.

        You opine that McCain will have judges that would overturn Roe vs Wade.
        That may happen, just as the courts have acted upon the Republican proposals to abolish slavery, end segregation, and integrate the public educational system.
        Oh, I???m sorry - that was probably before ???your time???, and you are therefore ignorant of that fact.

        I agree with you when you assert that Obama bears little resemblance to Dukakis.
        No, he is much more a radical liberal copy of that notorious peanut farmer - Jimmy Carter.
        Now, that comparison definitely would not enhance Obama???s chances for election.

        And it???s actually comical that democrats like to accuse McCain of being a continuation of Bush. For how many years will they continue to parrot that ridiculous pathetic refrain in reference to the current and future Republican candidates?

        Oh, by the way, I notice that you now have an accomplice - Bass Pro.
        Has he been out on the pond too long without a hat? It's a medical fact that over exposure to the sun???s rays can severely impair cognitive ability.
        Also, he might be seriously dehydrated - that could also impair the mind - so you might care to ???look into that???.

        Is this a class project for both of you?
        To assign a grade to your project so far, as evidenced by your posts, I believe that overall it deserves a generous ???F???. And confidentially, that does not mean ???Fine???.

        Beware - in a battle of wits - you actually need some real live ammunition!

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