Barack’s Bounce

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  • Posted By: edhere @ 06/23/2008 5:29:41 PM

    It's funny. Some people think that if you say something often enough, it becomes true. Truth is, Barack Obama's plans for America are very well defined and it's actually quite amazing what he has accomplished already. He's made significant improvements in ethics reform, transparency in government, lobbyist reform, campaign finance reform, protection from nuclear weapons, health care, foreign affairs, veterans, homeland security -- the list goes on and on.

    More on his plans for America: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

    More on his many accomplishments: http://tinyurl.com/35lcyh

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/24/2008 1:41:58 AM

      keep saying it it still wont be truth.

  • Posted By: coolrepublica @ 06/23/2008 8:21:36 PM

    The newsweek poll is what I call BS. You don't have to be a McCain supporter to know that something is wrong with the numbers. McCain is not ahead but 15 points behind is beyond ridiculous. I don't what what Newsweek has to gain by putting out such a bogus poll, but it's not doing itself a service by doing it. It smell bias to the highest level.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:02:48 PM

      Another conspiracy nut - come on in, you're not alone. Just try to keep it down so we adults can have a conversation about real issues.

      • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/24/2008 1:38:25 AM

        The conspiracy nuts won't come out until after MCCain wins.

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 11:17:21 AM

    lammo1, think what you want, but the reality is Obama is ahead of McCain. Polls do not lie. Check Rasmussen.

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 11:31:14 AM

      I have a question....I have seen several other people say the same thing about Rasmussen...do they do anything else besides poles? Thanks...Mark

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/24/2008 1:28:33 AM

        Here is the link if any bloggers want to check out the various polls conducted continuously on this site: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 12:07:22 PM

        Mark, I'm not sure. I was just on the web site, check it out for yourself.

        • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 12:23:10 PM

          Thanks, will do... Mark

  • Posted By: whipple @ 06/23/2008 12:30:39 PM

    When something positive is posted about Senator Obama, racism rears its ugly head. You can always see from some negative comments about Obama that people have not done their research. They continue to bring things up that they heard that are not true. This is not an "all white" America. The Native American Indians are the only true Americans.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/23/2008 12:42:55 PM

      For the most part this dialogue seems pretty positive, informative, and objective. Others Newsweek posts have been quite heated, ugly, negative and sometimes inappropriate, especially during the democratic primary season. Both sides were guilty.

      • Posted By: summer1216 @ 06/23/2008 2:46:18 PM

        Sorry, but I don`t think both sides were guilty. I saw by a factor of 10 hateful, undocumented, truly mean posts by the anti-Obama posters. When the article about race was published, I myself had to report three posts as offensive (something I rarely do), and they were immediately removed. Newsweek probably got a flood of robjections all at the same time. Even at other times the ugliness has not be evenly divided.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/23/2008 2:59:25 PM

          summer1216 I beg to differ. Intelligent, reflective, objective, and well informed Hillary supporters were accused of being racist, uneducated, ignorant, trailer park trash, inferior, stupid, bigoted, uninformed, stubborn, hillbillies, inbred, un-American, and the list goes on and uglier from there. Obama suppoters probably think the negativity was worse by Hillary supporters, and vice versa. My statement was this dialogue, overall, is tamer than most. Now that Obama has secured the nomination, it is important he and his supporters reach out to Hillary supporters.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/24/2008 1:15:26 AM

            I agree and I feel that there have been quite a few Obama supporters reaching over to try to bring former Hillary supporters into their camp. I especially like reading blogs that provide much supporting information about Obama and McCain for that matter, details, links, whatever. I feel less hostility on the site now (or maybe I should say right now) compared to the primaries. But we do have 5 mos to go so Im sure there will a point these blogs will be on fire. LOL. My main pact to myself was to not get into name calling and so far I have adhere to it, with at times having to walk away from my laptop for a bit before responding. Either way, it should be a very interesting race to the GE and talks in these blogs. : - )

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:07:18 PM

            Good post - I agree. There was plenty of name calling on both sides - I did a lot of it myself - but it doesn't really matter who did more, it's over. Obama won - since he is serious about unity, then so should his supporters.

        • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 3:08:47 PM

          My only concern when I saw postings against Obama at the time, some were filled with outright bigotry, the rest is all part of the heat of the campaign. I think it was both sides getting overly heated, but when the bigotry came into play, that got my dander up, and continues now with the general election going on...I enjoy learning from blogs other people views and opinions.... Mark

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/23/2008 1:32:36 PM

        2 things:

        1. Madd, "qualifiers" only serve to discredit you, having the oposite effect you're looking for, please just speak, don't need to know how you're a po black man, with no job, a war vet, froim Chicago, who IS a Obama supporter, but has issues with him....whatever, it's like the guys who post under a military name, like that lends some "credibility" to their BS...just talk/write don't qualify.
        2. Notes, NO BOTH sides were NOT guilty of it, show me one piece inplicating Obama, needs to be a video, as in print can easlily out of context, Don't make blanket accusations, oh yeah, and it needs to be an "attack" NOT a "response" as responses are justified, mmmkay?

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/23/2008 1:55:13 PM

          My response wasnot referring to eithe democratic candidate. It was referring to candidates' supporters who post comments on Newsweek blogs. Both sides were guilty.

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/23/2008 2:16:17 PM

            yeah, my bad, I see that now, lol. It's nice that we have MOSTLY come together now against a common ENEMY, McBush...the paper target, I offten wonder what they do to get the taste of his own foot out of his mouth ;)

            • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/23/2008 2:20:26 PM

              He must be double jointed, becuase he has his foot in his mouth, and we know where his head is stuck

              • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/23/2008 4:35:30 PM

                Actually that's bush enjoying the experience of McCain's head in dark regions ;)

    • Posted By: MADDASHELL @ 06/23/2008 12:50:42 PM

      i'M AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE AND UNDER THE POVERTY LEVEL BUT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS ME TO BUY A HYBRID,CONSERVE, AS IF I TRAVEL RECREATIONALLY OR CARELESSLY AND THEN TELL ME THAT TAXING THE OIL COMPANIES WILL KEEP ME FROM BEING HOMELESS. THE PARTY THAT DRILLS WILL GET MY VOTE! THE CARABOO,ELKS, WILL HAVE TO TAKE A BACK SEAT TO MY JOB! YOU CAN RIDE A HORSE AND BUGGY IF YOU WANT BUT I'M NOT!

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:02:15 PM

        If you're under the poverty level and voting for McCain - then you're just an idiot.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 06/24/2008 12:54:45 AM

    REMEMBER THE POPULAR VOTE DOES NOT DETERMINE THE WINNER.
    TO BE PRESIDENT YOU HAVE TO WIN CERTAIN BATTLE GROUND STATES.

    GORE HAD A FIFITEEN POINT LEAD ON BUSH IN 2000. GIVE ME A BREAK.

    IF BIN LADEN IS CAUGHT OR KILLED AND THE REPUBLICANS PUSH THE RACE CARD McCAIN might have a chance.

    PRESIDENT OBAMA IT JUST SOUNDS RIGHT.

  • Posted By: stevespelling @ 06/23/2008 4:47:14 PM

    Obama is getting a free ride from the entire Democratic popular media (that's just about all popular media except for Fox). It's interesting how all of America's enemies love him and support his election. Every terrorist group and regime on the planet supports Obama. Charlatan race hustlers like Farrakhan, and Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton all support Obama. Iran, Chavez & Castro to mention only a few of America's enemies all support Obama. His qualifications for running for President are his extreme radical left wing credentials & his finely honed (in the snake pit that is Chicago Liberal Democrat Politics) ability to soft sell a radical left wing agenda with the help of a complicit & supportive cheer leading Democratic media. Go Obama, Go Obama, Go Obama... is the only news slant & editorial content that we ever get about Obama, whose main credentials to be president are his extreme radical left wing views, and his lack of experience & track record in the U.S. Senate. Being a "Community Organizer" while thoroughly radical and left wing, are some pretty weak credentials that do not qualify anyone to be President of the U.S.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 6:41:25 PM

      You're completely wrong - the reason why people all over the world like Obama is because of his willingness to be open-minded and listen. Of course, the Republican's will say that is going to weaken the country - but that's just a crock. The world is sick and tired of Bush's "my way or the highway" cowboy diplomacy. And everyone knows that with McCain it will be four more years of the same.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 7:20:40 PM

        Here is an enlightening article arguing against talk of McCain being a Bush III presidency.

        STUMPER
        Posted Monday, June 16, 2008 6:40 PM
        Why McCain Wouldn't Be Bush III (Sorry, Barack)
        Andrew Romano

        EXCERPT:

        Yes, McCain is a Republican. Yes, he--like Bush--has Republican positions. And yes, you should vote against him if you disagree with the Republican Party on the issues. My only point here is that McCain, based on his bipartisan past, is probably one of the Republicans least likely to govern like Bush--and thus least deserving of the inevitable "Bush III" label. None of this is to say that McCain would be a perfect president, or even a good one. I'll let the voters decide that. Maybe you think he's too old. Maybe you think he's too conservative. Maybe you think he's squandered his honor for political gain. Maybe you just like Obama better. Any reason is fine, as long, that is, as the crucial comparison is between Obama and McCain--their policies, their personalities and the problems they'll face as president--and not between Obama and Bush. Because even though 43 has done some preposterous things during his time in the White House, he's not defying the Twenty-Second Amendment to run for a third term--despite what Obama says.

        Here is the full story: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/06/16/sorry-barack-mccain-won-t-deliver-a-third-bush-term.aspx

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 7:34:59 PM

          Interesting article - but how would you answer these two questions:

          1) Which candidate is closer to Bush with respect to policies and agendas - McCain or Obama?

          2) Which candidate would our allies and the rest of the world believe more likely to carry on with Bush's foreign policy - McCain or Obama?

          The majority of the country hates Bush and his administration so much that it is no longer about whether or not someone is going to be like Bush - the question on everyone's mind is who is closer. In the end, that's what is going to cost McCain the election.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 9:38:36 PM

            Well, duh, he is no liberal democrat so of course his policies for a good part would be closer to that of a republican, e.g. G W Bush. But CLOSE does not mean no cigar as the sayings goes. If all americans felt an close association to the degree of transferring Bush hate to McCain there would be a H*LL of a wider spread between Obama and what the polls are showing. That is my take anyways.

            • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 10:37:03 PM

              Wait till November baby!

              • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 11:02:48 PM

                You bet, my sweetie. : - )

    • Posted By: Florida Voter @ 06/23/2008 5:05:18 PM

      People like you fail to recognize that a lot of Americans are hurting because of the damage that Bush has done. To think that Mccain could be elected and carry on such disastrous policies is a dreadful thought. And to think all those who are rooting for his demise will enjoy the fruits of his labor just like the rest of us be they will be none the grateful for it. How sad.

      Vote Obama 2008 & 2012

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 9:27:16 PM

    TO ZIG ZAG and others interested in learning more about the temperments of our past Presidents:

    Article by Kevin Baker:
    Writer and Editor out of NYC
    More info about Mr. Baker: http://www.kevinbaker.info/about.html

    I found this to be a great read if you are interested in learning more about the temperaments of our past Presidents. Temper can be a bad thing depending on which type of temper is displayed. It also can be a very good thing in a President. Worth reading.

    EXCERPT from his article: THE TEMPER THING

    Is it really such a bad thing to have a temper when you are president? To judge from our history, the answer to the latter question seems to be NO as long as it is the right kind of temper.

    Most presidents and nearly all successful presidents have had displayed some kind of temper at some time in their tenure. It is simply too difficult to get so far in politics without so invaluable a tool. Sooner or later, its going to behoove any president to get tough with truculent senators, evil foreign dictators, willful special interests, corrupt criminal syndicates, recalcitrant state governors, shilly-shallying bureaucrats, and feckless relations. And then there is the rest of us. Any man who could get to be president without becoming at least occasionally fed-up with all the silly, self-serving demands we make of him would have to be possessed of an almost unnatural serenity.

    Full story: http://www.kevinbaker.info/c_ttt.html

  • Posted By: ixmarcusd @ 06/23/2008 5:38:45 PM

    June 23, 2008
    Gallup Daily: Obama 46%, McCain 43% ..So much for Newsweek

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 7:27:37 PM

      Not necessarily - the Gallup poll is based on registered voters. The Newsweek poll is based on a national sample identical to the lastest Census results.

      Each poll tells you something different. The Gallup poll is a more accurate reflection of what would happen if the election were held now (assuming they are continually updating their sample selection with new voter registration information). The Newsweek poll tells you how the country, in general, feels about the candidates. It also tells you that new voter registration will probably favor Obama over McCain.

      Look, every poll is statistically valid - so crying about bias or rigging is just an emotional response to results you don't like. If you want to really understand the polls, look at the details, and then post something relevant.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/23/2008 6:02:31 PM

      Don't forget the Rasmussen Poll, OR, the GOP-praised Electoral Map:

      From Rasmussen's Daily:

      "Currently, Obama and McCain are essentially even among men while Obama leads by 12% among women. McCain leads 49% to 42% among White Voters but trails 93% to 3% among African-American voters. Among voters who see economic issues as most important this year, Obama leads 59% to 32%."

      "The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows Obama leading in states with 200 Electoral College votes while McCain leads in states with 174 votes. When leaners are included, it???s Obama 284, McCain 240. "


      THIS MAY BE A BLOWOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 6:49:56 PM

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Monday, June 23, 2008

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday:

    Barack Obama 47%
    John McCain 40%.

    When leaners are included:
    Barack Obama 49%
    John McCain 43%.

    My comment: Seems to be a tighter margin than most people would expect for a Republican, McCain, running up against a Democrat, Obama, in the GE, given the race is following 2 terms of a Republican president that has made a mess of this country (economy, Iraq war, list goes on).

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 7:17:30 PM

      Wait until McCain screws up the debates. My prediction is that Obama is going to make him lose his cool and then something disasterous is going to fly out of McCain's mouth before he can stop it.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 7:25:38 PM

        Well that is always possible as he is not the coolest cumcumber like Obama is. Guess we will see.: - )

  • Posted By: joeboy101 @ 06/22/2008 6:52:48 AM

    So let me get this straight, Obama leads McCain by 15 points in a poll where Republicans are underrepresented to Democrats by 14 percentage points. For those keeping score at home, 22% of sample is Republicans, 36% is Democrats. Newsweek, this poll is bogus, period.

    • Posted By: edhere @ 06/22/2008 4:14:17 PM

      The pollsters didn't choose the percentages of Democrats and Republicans. That's just how Americans identify themselves these days. Republicans are going the way of the dodo bird.

      • Posted By: joeboy101 @ 06/23/2008 4:42:55 PM

        What it shows is a biased sample with no normalizing to acutal registered totals of Republicans and Democrats nationwide. Sorry, but a sample of ~800 voters does not equal the nation, and a skewed sample certainly doesn't.

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 7:10:03 PM

          Quick Hint - you have no idea what you are talking about.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/22/2008 5:30:46 PM

      Yo idiot - why don't you educate yourself on statistics before you post stupid comments like this. There happens to be more registered Democrats in this country and Republicans - so when you do a statistically vaild poll at the national level, you're going to get more Democrat respondents than Republican. It's sort of how statistics work.

      Perhaps you would prefer a 50/50 split - which would not be stastically valid, but would make you and all your Republican buddies feel much better about themselves.

      Actually, I think that would be fine. That way, when Obama completely blows McCain away in November, the slap in the face to you and the rest of the Republican's will be that much harder.

      • Posted By: joeboy101 @ 06/23/2008 4:48:42 PM

        Well, check the numbers, and you see that the disparity is at best 10% nationwide. This poll shows 14%. Furthermore, only about 25% of the voting public is not registered for a party. In this poll, it is over a third.

        Denigrating my intelligence may make you feel good, but it still doesn't change how wrong you are or how right I am. But, hell, don't believe me. Mr. Rasmussen backs me up.

        http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/party_affiliation/partisan_trends

        Quick hint, don't start debating if you don't know the numbers.

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 7:08:03 PM

          I do know the numbers - allow me to school you on them:

          1. There are standards for conducting polls. Regardless of the poll taken, they are all statistically valid.
          2. When looking at polls, you have to consider the demographic being polled (e.g. national, registered voters, men, women, etc), the sample size (the larger the sample size, the lower the margin of error), and the dates when the polls where taken (e.g. if a poll was taken on a single day were one candidate got a lot of media coverage - either good or bad - that can have an influence on the poll).

          For these reasons, most campaigns use multipled polling services and look at the results over an extended period of time (I said most - Clinton only used one, which was probably a mistake - Hllary supporters, that wasn't a dig, just an observation).

          So, if you want to say the Newsweek poll is just one source and other polls are showing different results - that's valid. If you want to say that the Newsweek poll is nationwide whereas the other polls are based only on registered voters, so those polls are more reflective of those who are going to vote, that's also valid.

          If you want to say the poll was wrong because there were more democrats than republicans, that's not valid and makes you look foolish. Hopefully that won't be the case in the future.

          See, all better now.

  • Posted By: OldGamer007 @ 06/23/2008 10:19:45 AM

    I say we declare election day to be like a new Saint Patrick's day. When you vote, you will receive a little sticker that says "I voted" (To be worn with honor). Like Saint Patrick's day when you don't wear green you get pinched, on election day if you aren't wearing an "I voted" sticker, you should get kicked.

    Just a preemptive thought to maintain voter turn out after these polls :)

    • Posted By: Davole @ 06/23/2008 7:04:41 PM

      OldGamer007 - I'll drink to that!

  • Posted By: JoanieG @ 06/22/2008 12:32:48 PM

    Stevespelling,
    I guess the poll shows that thinking people are more concerned about McCain's flip-flops and ties to numerous lobbyists than they are about these non-issues. Anyone in politics will have some associations that can be questioned. McCain surely has far more when you consider who is heading his campaign. And what about the Keating Five? The media seems to have complete amnesia about that.

    Voters care more about the issues Obama represents and will fight for than about the so-called "liberal media" caricatures of who he is. (A simple example: If Rev. Wright was "preaching race hatred" at every sermon for 30 years, as the right likes to claim, wouldn't his detractors have found at least a few more examples from the recordings done at Trinity Church?). If the media

    Some of the reasons voters are rejecting McCain --in spite of the media's love affair with him, are documented in an article you might want to read:

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080707/alterman

    I trust Obama far more than I trust McCain. That's the bottom line.

    I have a question for some of the other people posting on this site: is it necessary to call people names to make points on these web sites? It doesn't seem like a very effective way to persuade people of your credibility.

    • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/22/2008 1:01:38 PM

      I live in Chicago and I work with Affrican Americans who know about Trinity church and even they say they would not go to Trinity beacuse of the terrible things that are being preached there!!! You also talk about the politics Obama represents. Since getting elected as Senatro of Illinois he has done nothing to show that he would do anything as president!!!

      • Posted By: stevieraycharles @ 06/22/2008 2:39:55 PM

        You have no morals citron16....You are a completely foolish little cowardly pany waste who cannot answer a direct question when asked....you've obviously been trained by the MEdia you decry to be an unthinking pinhead...Answer the questions people ask you when you engage them, or siffer the Hypocrite-Coward label.

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/22/2008 3:23:23 PM

          It's the "Qualifiers" that always crack me up...listen..well read, and see if this sound like anything you've read he or else where:

          "Yeah, Im a half black/half white, single mom, from Chicago, veteran of 2 wars, with five kids, 1white, 1balck, 1 korean, 1mexican, 1jew, and all of them are in Iraq now, I am an Obama supporter, but I hate him, cause he is a muslim who sat in a Christian church for 20yrs and praised the lord, now as I am also a true "christian", I feel I must judge him for my own fears, his knows hippies, and said people are bitter, being from Chicago myself and living right next door to TUCC, and let me tell you, they are loud there, I know several BLACK, MARINE, ARMY guys, who don't like Obama, cause he's not black enough for them, plus I have a freind who know Larry Sinclair and he tells me Larry has never lied. Also I know a guy who was in Viet Nam with John McCain, and he says John McCain did only 30 propaganda films for the VC not 32"....You see what I did there, there I'm have all the "ground I need to say what ever lie I can think of, and you better not doubt me because I "QUALIFIED" myself.

          You guys crack me up, Holy, what did happen with your "Larry-Gate"? How'd that go, I missed it what was the outcome?

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/22/2008 7:30:32 PM

            Larry-Gate and his fraud attorney were both arrested. I think Holy is upset.

            • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/23/2008 12:58:52 PM

              Hi P,

              I knew that Larry Sinclair was arrested, but I wasn't aware that his fake lawyer was also arrested. When did that happen?

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 6:27:17 PM

                Hi SJ. One day last week. The attorney had been disbarred and continued to practice law or at least was continuing to represent Sinclair. Oh, the attorney showed up in court wearing a kilt.

            • Posted By: ozarkajuice @ 06/23/2008 1:13:09 PM

              I think Holy was the fake lawyer <^_~>

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/22/2008 1:49:09 PM

        Wow, you sure do get around. You're in the public housing that was alledgedly fixed up by Obama that is falling apart, then you're in the steel mills in Indiana, and now you work with people from Trinity Church.

        You're just in the know!

        If I was Obama, I'd start looking under my bed at night.

        • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/22/2008 6:52:41 PM

          HE might find Larry sinclairs thong!

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/22/2008 7:13:33 PM

            Oh man, that's a picture I didn't need in my head. Do you think he even wears underwear? Ahhh, that picture is even worse! Onepoker, you don't fight fair!

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/22/2008 7:52:40 PM

              I saw Sinclair in an interview. Scary looking. No thong though, thank god.

              • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/22/2008 8:21:16 PM

                Well, he got his 15 minutes of fame - too bad for him it was all bad. But good for us!

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/22/2008 8:37:13 PM

                  He is an idiot for making up that sick lie about Obama with him. No way!

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/22/2008 3:48:46 PM

          OMG Thank you I almost forgot to mention that...lol Can you believe these guys, them and ANYBODY that uses a "military" term in their ID...complete idiots...what a joke, and even funnier, they think people buy it ;)

        • Posted By: summer1216 @ 06/22/2008 3:18:58 PM

          Hahah! You have a great sense of humor!

      • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/22/2008 1:24:03 PM

        Every church, temple, or mosk has a leader which somebody will dispise...regardless, Trinity church is not going to close its doors anytime soon....Why do you think that Obama has done nothing for Illinois as a Senator? Or let me rephrase this, as a citizen of Illinois, what would you like to see him do for you that could have been different?

    • Posted By: stevespelling @ 06/23/2008 3:46:53 PM

      Quoting from the "Nation" is like quoting from Karl Marx to support an argument about economics. I'm a conservative free enterprise capitalist so don't read the Nation. Obama is guilty of false marketing and false advertising and I just hope that the Democratic Media will properly report his intended policies instead of simply cheer leading for him. The more the American public learn about him the less likely they willbe to vote for him.

    • Posted By: stevieraycharles @ 06/22/2008 1:00:04 PM

      I'm going to be mirroring Denmills asinine behavior and direct it right back at him....Yes I'm trying to get him to leave the site coz I find him to be an excellent example of Backwards, bleary-eyed, american fear mongering, liar. He will get what he gives as long as he gives it....so yes with some people it needs to be personal...when he stops making baseless accusations and throwing around racial and religious epithets he will enjoy the end of the abuse that will be coming his way...what's more is...I'd write an actual analysis of his comments, but I don't thing ghe'd get it....it should be obvious to everyne around here by now that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  • Posted By: MADDASHELL @ 06/23/2008 11:25:18 AM

    PEOPLE AFTER YOU POST YOUR COMMENTS, EMAIL YOUR REPS IN CONGRESS AND TELL THEM TO DRILL, DRILL, DRILL. LET'S MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR . TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME. NEWSWEEK IS DIFFIANTELY IN THE TANK FOR BARACK. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT POLL. SHAME ON YOU NEWSWEEK, SHAME!

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/23/2008 12:08:24 PM

      More importantly, lets find alternative energy sources now, because even if we drill we are only delaying the inevitable. We should have resolved the energy crisis 30 years ago.

      • Posted By: Davole @ 06/23/2008 6:23:29 PM

        News and Notes - Why not do both now?

        Let's immediately start drilling and building refineries, and also searching for alternate energy sources.

        Which option do you think will produce substantial meaningful results quicker?

        Besides, both courses will be good for the economy, since many more jobs will be created.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/23/2008 1:40:44 PM

      Ok, solet's see if I get this "drill, drill, drill" concept. The MAJOR oil companies have had US in a choke hold for years, they know Saudi is only about 8yrs from EMPTY so they are hiking prices and making record profits, 1st qtr this yr was 36 BILLION!!!, what was your first qtr profit? They are almost OUT OF BUSINESS, and you want to extend their "lease"?
      If someone was shooting at you, and runnig out of bullets, would you give them more? That's what you want to do, and "Black Norris" here is a "plant". Give me a break.

      DRILLING IS NOT THE ANSWER!!! If it was then the oil companies would be doing so on the over 10,000 acres they ALREADY hold the leases to, don't ya think, or opperating at 100% capacity instead of 85%?

      Food for thought ;)

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 11:41:10 AM

      why can't you make your point without caps on? My opinion is polls change like the color of my wife's hair, gray one day, and back to normal another, and then lo and behold the wind blew it and my gosh it is a mess again...I think Pia's suggestion is on the money with Rasmussen...have you tried them? Let me know what you think after you look at their results....Mark

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/23/2008 6:12:39 PM

    Newsweek is way out of whack compared to Gallup and Rasmussen polls.

    Here is some information from the Rasmussen Report:

    What They Told Us: Reviewing Last Week???s Key Polls
    Saturday, June 21, 2008 Email to a FriendAdvertisement
    John McCain started it all on Monday when he let it be known that he wanted the nearly three decade-old ban on offshore oil drilling lifted to help offset skyrocketing prices at the pump. Barack Obama, hewing to the traditional Democratic Party line, said no way.

    But voters across the country told Rasmussen Reports in no uncertain terms that they want offshore drilling on the list of potential solutions to end this country???s dependence on foreign oil.

    Perhaps worse news for the Obama campaign is that Florida voters saw a need for offshore drilling even though their state is one most directly impacted. The Sunshine State is key to the Electoral College and McCain???s lead in the state grew when voters learned who favored and who opposed offshore drilling.

    Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) didn???t like the survey results, and complained about the question wording to Fox???s Neil Cavuto. That put us in the middle of the story and Cavuto had Scott Rasmussen on the next night . We also asked the question again in a different manner to address Nelson???s talking points. When survey participants were told that Obama opposed offshore drilling and that the Democratic nominee said offshore drilling wouldn???t cut gas prices, public support for drilling remained strong.

    While the offshore drilling issue worked for McCain this past week, it wasn???t all roses for the GOP hopeful. As he geared up for a major address yesterday (Friday) in Ottawa to champion free trade and the North American Free Trade Agreement between the U.S., Canada and Mexico, Rasmussen Reports found a lot of opposition to the Republican candidate???s position???56% favored renegotiation of NAFTA, while 39% said U.S. free trade agreements in general have directly impacted their lives. Of that latter group, 73% said the impact was negative.

    In the daily Presidential Tracking Poll this week, Barack Obama???s bounce receded a bit. After clinching the nomination, Obama opened a lead over McCain that grew to eight points a week-and-a-half ago. This week, Obama???s lead settled in the three to four point range.

  • Posted By: midnight05 @ 06/23/2008 4:48:22 PM

    Three things are going Obama's way. First, he's an outstanding candidate. Second, McCain is messing up almost catastrophically and making more mistakes than it seems possible to make. Thirdly, George Bush has been so traumatic to America that he has ruined the Republican brand. McCain has not figured out that the best way to the White House in the future is to run away from it NOW. McCain has got to flee and kick Bush in the privates on the way.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/23/2008 5:43:04 PM

      It is too late for McCain now. He decided it was important to pander to the most radical in the republican party rather. I suspect he is losing a lot of independents who would have supported the John McCain of no tax cuts for the rich, no oil drilling, condemnation of Rumsfeld, condemnation of radical religious extremists, etc. I don;t know who this new McCain is, but he doesn't appeal to me

  • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 06/23/2008 3:10:13 AM

    This is the first time I have checked these blogs, and I do have to say there are some very nasty people on here such as stevieraycharles and marksgershenson, I am really surprised newsweek has not kicked you out!! . These people and a few others do not even know how to have a friendly conversation on here and the name calling is terrible!!! If someone has a different opinion than your own the comments get so nasty, it's not even pleasent to read these comments. Some of these people making comments really need to grow up and act more like adults!! Opinions very!!!

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:41:50 PM

      Wow - you are so far off base. Mark and Steve are complete gentleman on this board. I, on the other hand ... not so much.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 8:02:46 AM

      Cobalt, you are wrong. Mark and steve are not nasty. If you really paid attention to their posts, you would see that they are usually in defensive mode to posters who post hate and racist comments against Obama and his supporters. Do you ever notice Citron16's posts? They are right here. I'm surprised you are excusing Citron. What do you think of those comments? Racist rants about Muslims. Opinions to you? To me, nothing but hate rants.

      • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 06/23/2008 11:06:11 AM

        Freedom of speech !!!

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 11:26:28 AM

          Of course it is, but in this case you are accusing two good people of being nasty when they are being defensive and rightly so.

      • Posted By: emmarcee @ 06/23/2008 8:36:00 AM

        Again, Pia, Talking about Islam is not "racism". It is about where your allegiance is. Talking about Islam does not call for nasty comments. Why are they so worried as to throw a tantrum? Is n't it more about hiding the facts?

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 8:59:32 AM

          GM emmarcee. No, Citron doesn't just talk about Islam, Citron posts rants about Obama being Muslim as if it were a menace. Pay attention to Citron's posts from now and you will see. BTW, I'm not a Muslim. I'm just defending them from racists.

          • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 06/23/2008 11:25:58 AM

            I looked at the comments and citron posted something about family values from a t.v. ad.

        • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 10:36:23 AM

          The question is in what context....and if the context in the blog is racism, bigtory, anti muslim, anti semetic, you bet I am going to call them out on their bs, and other bloggers do the same thing. When I see my name about being nasty, then I know I am writing remarks that hit home...and as Pia has also said, if you see my remarks that entertain thought and opinion, I put that out too....I am here to learn, and help people find things on the internet, perhaps people look at other opinions, with respect and honor...and have fun at the same time...I am not ashamed if I don't know an answer. Sharenews and me we have helped each other research and dig and dig until one of us is satisfied with our research and help people do that too...If I am wrong, I will be the first to say mybad, and move forward.... :-)..

          • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 06/23/2008 11:21:32 AM

            Blogs are for people to say what they think, belitting people for what they think or say just is not right!! Different people have differnt opinions! You have your opinion they have their opinion, but being nasty to someone about their opinion is wrong! How would you feel if someone did that to you? I think name calling and being nasty does not show maturity and should not be in blogs!!!!

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 8:31:59 AM

        PS- Cobalt, you posted that this is the first time you have read these blogs. Are you sure? I have seen your username Cobalt6, before. I have an excellemt memory.

        • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 06/23/2008 11:10:07 AM

          No this is my first time!! You did not see me on here before.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 11:24:34 AM

            Oops! Sorry, my mistake. Welcome aboard and enjoy!

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 9:54:16 AM

      The only time I personally get outright nasty is when someone posts outright bigotry, defamation, racist, anti-semetic and anti-muslim remarks. I respect people and their opinions as long as there is none of that going on. Yes opinions very, and as long as you did not post anything that falls under the previous categories, I respond nicely....don't expect nice if I see the other...

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/23/2008 8:30:09 AM

    GM, Nins. How are you today?

    I need your help if you have time. Please post that list again of the 40 states where Obama beat McCain in in the popular vote in the primaries. Sharenews is interested to see it, thank you.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:25:09 PM

      It's interesting, but you'll probably get beat up on it. People will argue that there was not a large Republican turn out in many of the primaries because people already knew McCain had won.

      There's some truth to that.

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 06/23/2008 9:21:34 AM

    huh? This is not a voter bounce...its a Newsweek bounce...aka, rigged! Even Newsweek BFF MSNBC had to get blunt yesterday and said..."the newsweek poll is a out liar!" hmmmmm, and people are saying that the media is not being bias against Mccain?

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:21:21 PM

      Like I posted above rigged = idiot. Why don't you at least attempt to post something intelligent.

  • Posted By: befair @ 06/23/2008 9:26:09 AM

    I think we will see morepolls like this as people begin to actually listen to what Sen. Obama says and stop falling victim to the rumor-mongers. He is an intelligent man who knows how to listen as well as speak and he has confidence in what he knows but recognizes what he does not know. He is a fast learner with the ability to show respect to thoughts other than his own, however he is willing to take a stand when he feels that his idea is the best one for the country. I fail to see why anyone would wish to see him defeated.

    • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 06/23/2008 9:32:02 AM

      Nope...the Newsweek poll was rigged! two recent polls just came out and is statistical tie still...4 points in one and the latest gallup showed 2 points for Obama. Voters are never as stupid as Newsweek think that they are. And the media is never as smart as powerful as they think that they are.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:20:13 PM

        But we're all thinking you're pretty stupid. If you want to be credible - attack polls in general. They are based on very small sample sizes that statistically represent the demographic being polled. Different polls can have sizable differences.

        But when you say it was rigged, you just look like a idiot.

      • Posted By: befair @ 06/23/2008 9:38:22 AM

        Did you think it was rigged when newsweek also had them at a tie. Come on this poll is not rigged. It is a snap-shot in time. It shows what people were thinking on June 18-19. We all know this can and will change but really the paranoia that goes into thinking that a national poll is rigged!

        • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/23/2008 10:20:08 AM

          likely voter polls have MCCain slightly ahead.

          Prepare for more whining about a stolen election.

      • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 9:56:20 AM

        I think the answer to this is, and I use this analogy every posting....polls change like the color of my wife's hair, depending on how fast in turns gray, and how fast the wind blows will determine what she is going to do...polls change that quickly....and so do people's opinions

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/23/2008 10:18:35 AM

      Because he lacks judgement. (Great deal on a house from a business man who might need a little senate approval later on. No problem)

      He associates with bad people. (so WIlliam tell me again how you blew up a policestation and then got aquited)

      He has very light core principles (Change hell Ill change my ideas right now depending on the audience im speaking too)

      He has the most liberal voting record in the Senate. (this may not be an issue to most bloggers but it certainly is not centrist)

      Pie in the sky platform (Im going to create 200,000 scientists and engineers and then we will create alternative fuels together.) How are we going to pay for this mr Obama? I will tax the oil companies. Won't we have to pay higher gas prices then? I do not believe it would be appropriate at this time to discuss how I intend to make oil companies pay for these scientists but I assure you the money will come from the rich.

      Ethanol champion (just because it costs billions of dollars and ruins our engines doesn't mean we shouldn't give farmers huge subsidies to grow corn and neglect all other growing needs.)

      etc etc etc.

      Bush is out in 08 Obama and the profesional bloggers keep trying to paint MCCain as Bush 2 but its just a lie MCCain is his own man with a history of battling hard for his country.

      Gemerally when you are looking for Washington outsider for president you would be lookng for someone with some experience outside of politics. Obama's limited experience is entirely in the realm of politics and writing books about himself. Not exactly a change we can believe in.



      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:16:47 PM

        All that writing and all it really amounts to is your opinion. You're entitled to it, just as I am entitled to say you're wrong. Obama has connected with the people - especially the young, who are the future of this country. McCain represents business as usual - that's why he is going to lose.

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 9:59:47 AM

      don't say that too loud because there are about a half dozen bloggers will come after you with emotional tirades going the opposite way...LOL And then they will sock you with anti everything from anti-muslim, to outright bigotry. Don't worry, there are several of us who call them out on their bs when they post....and they leave the blog.... albeit temporarily.

  • Posted By: Truthinstructor @ 06/23/2008 1:32:00 PM

    Given the current environment, Obama should be up 15 to 20 points over McCain, with Obama gradually dropping against McCain and the race tightening as he is forced to take stands on the issues and his blank slate is filled in. However, I don't see any explanation for why this particular poll shows him 15 points up when the prior polls consistently showed him with 4 to 6 point lead. If the prior polls represent reality, the Obama campaign is in serious trouble.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 5:00:23 PM

      Instead of spewing mindless GOP rhetoric - why don't you actually take the time to education yourself. Obama has taken positions on most of the issues. All you have to do is go to the Wall Street Journal's website and look under politics - there is a very easy to read comparison of the two.

      So that being the case, I guess Obama's 15 to 20 point lead will continue through November.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/23/2008 2:09:44 PM

      I love the smell of DESPERATION int the morning, smells like VICTORY! (for Obama) ;)

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