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‘He Should Never Have Gone to Iraq’

More borderline troops are being sent to the front, sometimes with tragic results.

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  • Posted By: 1angryPerryCountyGurl @ 09/19/2008 5:36:52 PM

    What gives you the right, Mr. ephron to taint the memory of a fallen soldier and hero? Everyone of us has things in our past that we do not want the public to know, or wish to discuss. Pvt Deitrich lived and died an american hero. I thank him and all others who make the world safer for myself and my family. I will not allow you to ruin the reputation of this brave Perry County man who did his best. If any one is to blame for his death, it is the US Military, It is not the fault of this fallen soldier. My heart goes out to Davids family, and I am very sorry their son, brother and friend had to make the ultimate sacrifice for those of us not brave enough to fight. Mr. Ephron, you are I am sure a highly educated man with an above average IQ. So I pose one last qustion to you. How many tours of duty have you spent in Iraq? My guess would be not a one. You wouldn't have lasted three days. In future I hope you put a little American Pride in your articles.

    David, you were a hero. The US Military could use thousands more like you. You will be missed.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 07/10/2009 8:14:57 PM

      I join you in your salute. (You can flame my liberal butt later, on this we are of kindred spirit.)

  • Posted By: Braes @ 07/10/2009 8:09:34 PM

    The United States Air Force took my long haired, punk ass, off the streets of Fremont California, whipped my ass into a man, taught me a craft, sent me to high school to get a diploma, gave me a home, a job, and a good life. There is a job for nearly everyone in the service. Many of those jobs entail large risk.
    The only problem here is one of classification. This kid is a hero who wanted to serve his country. There were and are a lot of jobs for his skill sets. The recruiter needs to be taken to the woodshed.

  • Posted By: PittsfieldMA @ 06/21/2008 5:58:42 PM

    Thanks to the Bush/Cheney warmongering, we will need to reinstitute the military draft to re-staff the military sufficiently.

    • Posted By: BLCKZEUS @ 06/22/2008 11:51:56 PM

      Ok first of all Billy Boy is the original who cut the Armed Forces to less than half. Second... What exactly were this kids other options? Live in a Car throughout adulthood and flip burgers? He died a hero, Served his country, Step parents received his life insurance, burried with Military Honors and actually became SOMEBODY! With all of that against him! I prefer to hear it this way vs. hearing another special student shot up a school and then killed himself. He did the right thing and tried. Something that these Anti-Military people on here could never do because of selfishness and a distorted view of what WE in the Army do.

      • Posted By: PaTriotDE @ 06/23/2008 11:28:08 AM

        To BLCKZEUS: Obviously you never been in the military and I can tell by the way that you formulate your thoughts in a fantasy world. The reality is that the military should not be a welfare depository for the less than capable in our society. In the real world, the front line troops (cav scouts) have to be the best of the best, both physically and mentally. The thing that you don't understand is that the the Army works only as a team, in which a unit is as strong as the weakest and its weak link can get a whole unit killed, not just the individual. Again, if you were in the military you would understood that fact. It is comforting for people like you to think of heroes going out in a blaze of glory, but for a soldier that is not the point, because the point is to complete the mission and to look after your buddy's life. Now, I'm not a fan of Bill Clinton, but you also have to get your facts straight: Yes, it was during the Clinton presidency that the conventional forces in the military were cut, although not by half as you stated, but it was because it was an signed by President George H. W. Bush and the Republican Congress. Clinton could not do anything about it, the wheels were set in motion when he go to office. But during the Clinton years the special operation units got a huge boost and separated into their own command (SOCOM), but this upset the pentagon and the brass (high ranking officers) that did not like change very much and did not like the new kids on the block (special operations offices) having power over unconventional troops, thus the hate from the infantry and engineer generals in the Army towards Clinton. I was in the army for a long time, since 1980 and have seen its evolution from the end of the Vietnam era. I was a Drill Instructor and one of the tasks were to assess if an individual is mentally and physically fit for duty. Not everyone is cut-out to be in the Army, and those are the real facts, not a fantasy world in which a lot of you chicken hawks that never been and never done the deed appear to live within.

        • Posted By: BLCKZEUS @ 01/20/2009 11:37:38 PM

          Your kidding right? I have been in the Infantry (Not Cav smh) for 15 years! My words are from 3 tours of experience. Dont know what your thinking lol.

        • Posted By: n96173 @ 06/24/2008 1:08:07 PM

          the best aye? then why is the worst problem you boys deal with homemade bombs. I WAS in the military.

          • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 9:25:54 PM

            PaTriotDE - I agree with a lot of what you're saying except the part of the military only hated Clinton because of SOCOM. Served w/SOCOM, my problem was using the military as goodwill ambassadors to Samolia without adequate Intel assets, or correct TOE in case something went wrong. I went to school with Randy Shugart, and while not really close, considered him a friend. Seeing him and Gary Gordon drug thru the streets was Clinton's and Les Aspin's fault, period. He also had SEVERAL opportunities to nail Al Queda, and failed to act. He may have been a good president (I don't think so) but as CIC he was a disaster, and rates right up there with Jimmy Carter as worst CIC in the history of the US. If the Sha was still in Iran we wouldn't be having this conversation.

            Also, as n96173 uses the word "military", you can bet it wasn't the Army or Marines.

  • Posted By: beliver @ 10/02/2008 4:03:43 PM

    I have a boy who is mildly mentally challanged, but is all heart. If the millitary did give up on David but gave him a chance. There are very few places a boy with his kind of problems can go, they face a life of rejection and disapointment in every day society. I think it is sad that David is not with us but, it do not think he gave up as long as some one gave him a chance to fit in.

    • Posted By: beliver @ 10/02/2008 4:05:20 PM

      I ment to say, the millitary did not give up on David.

  • Posted By: JST116 @ 09/12/2008 9:38:31 PM

    I have another post because this is truly important to me...not only because i knew David as a person spending HRS AND HRS with him, but that i fear the same thing is going to happen to someone else. It was clear that David should have never been able to enlist in the military. I will give you many instances in which the company that i worked for made him a harder person physically, but tore him down psychologically.

  • Posted By: JST116 @ 09/12/2008 9:21:27 PM

    I would like to add that i had the pleasure of spending 4 months with this young man while he was in an adjudicated facility where i worked. He mostly cared for those that took him seriously and didn't take him for granted. It truly is amazing that the military would take such an individual that had such a profound mental retardation and instability. I remember many nights where David would not go lay in his bunk after lights out....which meant he had to be subdued. His physical presence obviously took the forefront to his intelligence. As sad as it is to say...i demote the Umilitary for sending this person to become a soldier

  • Posted By: RetiredNCO @ 09/03/2008 2:08:48 PM

    How is it that service members today are still sent to war and even allowed into the military. We can put a 2,000 lb guided bomb in an air shaft in Ramadi to deal with a much wanted killer yet we can't bring forward our mentally ill soldiers for treatment and seperation from service. Hmmm, okay how about this....The numbers of suicides are through the roof and off the charts in todays military. PTSD is off the charts in todays military. Mental issues are at the headlines in major papers and magazines and no one in this soldiers command had enough backbone to use their right to take this case higher until a competent leader could remove him from service? Something tells me that this dead soldiers leaders received medals for their leadership and performance while they should be investigated and brought onto the legal carpet. Unless of course this isn't wanted because it would expose too many more cases with similar results. The recruiter that recruited him, the drill sergeant that trained him, the instructor that qualified him and the unit leaders that allowed him on the plane to the Middle East....well, hats off to each of you. You have certainly raised the level of incompetence to a whole new bar. Sleep well and eat well. In the meantime, consider your options next time when another David Dietrich enters your radars. That is if you have them turned on and know how to read them.

  • Posted By: RetiredNCO @ 09/03/2008 1:36:13 PM

    First and foremost, this story was very well written. As a retired military leader that served and was wounded and disabled in the Iraq War in 2005, this is not something new in the United States Army from my experience. Sadly, this soldier lost his life. Who fired the shot remains a question in my mind but, that is a whole other issue. My experiences while serving in my career found multiple cases where soldiers were a threat to themselves and many others in the line of their duties. This responsibility lies solely in the laps of Private Dietrichs' chain of command from his squad leader to his BN Commander. It is the daily responsibility of leaders in todays Armed Forces to see to it that the welfare and health of their soldiers are monitored and reported effectively AND immediately through the most senior leaders overseeing such said soldiers. That said, most can argue that Private Dietrich lied on his entrance exams when joining the Army. Case point here is that he was enlisting into Combat Arms and everyone knows where they end up in the battle field. Next, as a former Combat Arms soldier who served in combat training combat arms soldiers as a qualified FT Knox Instructor, not only did Private Dietrichs' leaders fail, so too did his instructors at Ft Knox and Kuwait that recertify 90% of U.S. Servicemembers before pushing north into enemy occupied Iraq.
    Having a 19 Delta Qualified soldier stay behind in the rear to fill sandbags and pull meaningless details is not an acceptable form of handling a soldiers competence and capabilities when just over the wall lies the enemy. The fact that he made it through 19 Delta School at Ft Knox and then made it to a war zone is troubling and an open book for investigations by any competent law firm and all competent governments. This factual case DOES NOT PASS THE SMELL TEST at all corners and surely has the aroma of " our nation sent a mentally incompetent human being to war." Leaders at all levels are responsible for the failures and successes of the servicemembers in their chains of command period. Private Dietrichs' family needs more that a handfull of medals, and money and a flag. They need answers. Answers that far outweigh medals and money and yes, even this nations flag. Those answers needed are simply the truth because the truth far outweighs all things material.
    I personally have seen the other side of mentally incompetent soldiers serving in a warzone. I know of two widows and 5 children that are without their loved one forever because leaders failed to remove such an obvious derelict. Private Dietrichs Bronze Star and Purple Heart were earned with a price that many have paid. I sense that many will continue to pay this price because of recruiting efforts that remain the toughest since the Cold War. My sincerest respects and sympathy to Private Dietrichs family and fellow soldiers.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/21/2008 8:23:06 PM

    There is a lot of good things to say about having universal military training, compulsory, at least two years early in life, then guarantee a GI Bill for education to provide for higher education afterwards. Besides the discipline that it affords, desperately needed in this society by all appearances, our entry into wars of choice would be severely curtailed when everybody's offspring would be required to be exposed. The reasons go on and on why it is a good idea. But we got lost along the way back there with Viet Nam, another war started on false premises, and the good reputation of the draft just fell too far below acceptable. I benefitted from it long before Viet Nam and as sad to see it gone.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 06/22/2008 9:33:39 PM

      I have often debated with myself the idea of compulsory military service of a year or so for every young American. I usually convince myself it is a bad idea for various reasons. I think the discipline would be good for a lot of young people. I think if a student drops out of school they should automatically be enlisted in the army perhaps. Wouldn't it be a hoot tho if Brittany Spears, Paris Hilton and some of these spoiled Hollywood kids were required with every other American young person to serve a year or 2 in one of the service branches? Israel requires it. Can anyone speak to Israel's experience with mandatory military training?

      • Posted By: n96173 @ 06/24/2008 1:14:13 PM

        Well, for starters, Israel is one of the largest purveyors of terrorism on earth, second only to the good ole' US of A. Second, if the US discontinued it's practice of shoving it's policies up other countrie's asses, and mind it's own business, there wouldn't be a need for a draft. The reason there isn't one is because George's daughters, and nephews would be subject to it, as well as Dick's kids and most members of congress. The world WAS NEVER THREATENED BY SADDAM HUSSEIN. But then, it was never threatened by the Vietnamese either.

        • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 9:13:13 PM

          I'm guessing that anyone who is dangerous has to be a threat to the whole world for us to do anything about it. If that's the case Hitler(he only wanted to control Europe and kill all the Jews there), Tojo (only wanted to control all of Asia with the Japanese as rulers, see the rape of Nanking), and Charlie Manson (only wanted to rule his little cult, and kill when he felt like it) should all be free or walking around still. Or just maybe you missed the part where he Gassed, Attacked, Tortured ,and killed over a hundered thousand folks because they were ethnic Kurds, or just disagreed with him.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/21/2008 8:24:31 PM

    At least there are some promises in the current campaigns to at least provide opportunity for a good college education for veterans at the end of their service.

    • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 9:03:09 PM

      A. The GI Bill has been around for over 50 years.
      B. The President doesn't make policy, Congress does. Dispite their claims, they're very stingy to the vets.
      Guess they have to get that money for their own retirement, and junkets from somewhere.

  • Posted By: Tan Boon Tee @ 06/22/2008 12:30:04 AM

    The battle front is not for the faint heart. Yet mentally unfit or unstable soldiers known to the authority are relentlessly being pushed to the frontline to execute practically impossible tasks. Isn???t this ironic? Who is responsible for their deaths?

    In time of war, few people dare to raise any issue in the military, let alone asking a sensible question or challenging the authority. This is only yet another extreme example of human inexplicable insanity.

    • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 8:59:42 PM

      Disagree with your comment. I for one had no problem raising issues, even in combat. Your comment is pretty degrading to all servicemembers and vets alike. The last voice of sanity should have been this soldier's platoon sergeant. I remember having to be quite creative in finding reasons a person should work in the mailroom, and not go on a mission I felt they might compromise, or never return from.

  • Posted By: n96173 @ 06/24/2008 12:45:28 PM

    The best, most powerful military in the history of the world? My ass. Largest collection of dimwits and halfwits maybe. Goddamn George Bush and his ilk for this.

    tedbohne

    • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 8:40:12 PM

      I served 22 years, have a degree in Education I earned with a 4.2 GPA. Bet this dimwit is smarter, and has sacrificed more for this Great Country than you ever will. Posting noxious crap on the internet, or putting "free tibet" and "no war" bumper stickers don't count as patriotic where I come from.

    • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/24/2008 10:17:29 PM

      actually, you can think the liberals and the "peace dividend" for shrinking the army too much.

      we now have no choice, assuming we continue to pursue ill-conceived foreign excursions, but to lower the bar and go for quantity over quality. and since nobody broach the subject of a draft, don't be surprised if you see a "green-card-for-service" offer to new immigrants in the near future.

      • Posted By: rose24 @ 06/27/2008 11:34:38 AM

        My father was active duty military for over 20 years and deployed for two wars. My son is currently active duty military with possilbe deployment at a later date either one of them is a dimwit or a halfwit. Maybe before you start calling names you should look in the mirror.

        • Posted By: rose24 @ 06/27/2008 12:09:57 PM

          Correction: What I meant to say was neither one of them is a dimwit or a halfwit.

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/03/2008 3:36:42 AM

            You OF COURSE miss the point Rose. My family has served in every war since the civil war (north). I currently have two cousins with SEVERE injuries fromthis WAR FOR OIL.
            Serving does not make the WAR right, it does not make our troops bad, they follow orders, or go to jail. or in this case keep going until DEAD, my prayers for your son, The military standards are almost gone, NO BODY isdenying that, that does NOT mean all are less than the "standard", but it is not what they would choose first. You bicker over who said what about the troops and the troops are STILL DYING FOR OIL!? GET IT!!!

            • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 8:07:48 PM

              HDavidson
              I notice a thread through all your comments. "My family served XXXXX". Did you? Your son-in-law, outlaws, friends, milkman, etc don't count. If it was you son-in-law spouting off I'd take it. But till then, why don't you take the advice I got as a young private. Better to remain silent and thought stupid, than to speak and remove all doubt.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/01/2008 11:25:27 PM

      Actually we have the highest level of education in the Army's history now. So not all are dimwits/halfwits.
      The Army does need to be recognized for what it does do right and that is they do provide education in some MOS's and after completion of your contract. My son-in-law received his nursing degree in the Army and did most of his training at Walter Reed Medical Center. He's currently in Iraq.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 06/26/2008 12:34:11 AM

    "NO AMERICAN LIFE IS WORTH IRAQI FREEDOM.
    ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS NOT A REAL AMERICAN" eddiewhere 2008

    There is this argument out there that I hear our troops repeating over and over agian. WE CANNOT LEAVE UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE WE CANNOT LET OUR BROTHERS DIE IN VAIN.

    NOW THAT IS REAL BUL****. THAT STATEMENT IS GOVERNMENT IDEOLOGY AND NOT MILITARY IDEOLOGY.

    COLIN POWELL SAID IT BEST. DEFINE YOUR MISSION CLEARLY SET YOUR OBJECTIVES AND USE OVERWHELMING FORCE AKA SHOCK AND AWE to accomplish your mission.

    WE HAVE NO CLEAR AGENDA and NO CLEAR OBJECTIVES. WE ARE NOT SURE. SO HOW ON EARTH CAN WE JUSTIFY THE LOSS OF MORE AMERICAN LIVES. AS LONG AS WE STAY IN IRAQ YOUNG AMERICANS WILL CONTINUE TO DIE IN VAIN. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE MADE OUR POINT VERY CLEAR. WE ARE SICK OF IRAQ AND WE ARE SICK OF OUR DEPENDENCY ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL.

    OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    THE LAST FALLACY I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THAT THE SURGE IS WORKING.

    THIS ARGUMENT IS SO CRAZY THAT IT IS HARD TO EXPLAIN.

    SURGE means temporary. OUR TROOPS PRESENCE IN THAT COUNTRY OF IRAQ IS THE MAIN REASON FUNDAMENTALIST HAVE FOR ATTACKING US.

    WE NEED A PRESIDENT THAT WILL DO WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA NOT WHAT IS BEST FOR IRAQ.

    • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/24/2008 8:34:35 PM

      eddiewhere,

      I was there, both my sons have been there. One is there no in fact. They believe, as I do, that if we weren't fignting there, we'd be fighting here. I'll put my College Degree, and 4.2 GPA against anyone who cares to call soldiers dimwits, halfwits. It's insulting. I won't even address your comment about my friends dying in vain. Especially since you benefit from their service and sacrifice. My son in Iraq says the surge is working. Sitting on your nice safe butt in the USA, don't think you are in any way qualified to argue. The average Iraqi is grateful for the sacrifice we've made. Much the same as the Germans were 60 odd, and 90 odd, years ago. You should leave this great country for a couple of years, leave your cell phone, computer, and TV at home. You'll gain a whole new perspective. I served honorably for over 22 years until an injury I received in the first Gulf War finally caught up to me, and I couldn't perform at the level my soldiers deserved. With so much invested no one wants this over more than I do. Both countries have had free and fair elections. But I also know that in the vacuum created by our leaving, the worst and most violent of the radical groups will take over. These are really ugly people, who do not know the meaning of compromise or negotiation. So what do you think will happen then? You really think we'll be safer, and gas will be cheaper? We'll be faced with a threat that now has safe haven, and unlimited access to funds through oil. If we do't fight them there, we sure will be fighting them here. And now, as just a citizen, I prefer to read about explosions in Baghdad or Kandahar, rather than on mainstreet USA.

  • Posted By: bdshull @ 08/09/2008 9:42:24 PM

    This Article Should be about. "Why are so many young Americans with good educations avoiding the Military while others who might be less qalified are left to answer the call?" The Military is not to blame. Like my Brother Capt James Shull, Pvt David Diethich is a true Ameican Hero.

  • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 08/06/2008 4:28:21 AM

    Wow, I am shocked that people are still descussing this article. This kid wasn't the first to die in Iraq we should all keep this in mind. I don't blame the military untirely for this botched war, as i do the president and his friends. In response to Randy H... I know the pledge that the american military gives to it's country, but you missed my point, I honestly believe... no! I know that if they(the american soilders) were not recieving any type of compensation for their "so-called efforts" (paychecks, free degrees, etc...) then we would see a definite decline in people who join the army, these little tid bits of life give them incentive and hope, the problem is if they die, they(the american soilders) don't see a penny of it in their grave, all they get is a nice coffin and a small white stone. So behind all the honor and pride for there country, in the end they still have a "fat" check waiting for them if they live. So in reality they do fight for this because if you remove it, I am sure they would look for a way out of this job, because nobody would fight for free, except fprthose defending their country... and as of now that is not america... america is fighting for her intrest. I hope this made my comment clear. Take care.

  • Posted By: bleed101 @ 08/04/2008 2:50:35 PM

    Ok...ask yourself this ..What did I do for my country. Did I babble about how bad our Government is? Did I believe in the war on terror? Did I offer myslef to my country ? In ten years when most of this Iraq incursion, it will show how beneficial it had been to the area. The U.S. did not start this, nor will we end it. It in our best National intrest to be in Iraq, Afghanistan, and possibly Syria and Iran. The same people that criticize this war are the same people that cry out for help in Darfur. The same genocide was happening in Iraq, and throughout the Muslim world. It has been going on for Centuries, wthout out our help. Which one of the experts can say that it won't . The only thing that is proven is that without our help killings and terrorism continue, It remains to be seen if it will help.. I am a Iraq veteran, and have seen first hand, the gratitude the Iraqi citizens have for us. If the citizens in Iraq had more constructive input in there own country, our presence would naturally diminish. But hey that is asking for alot, hell people in our country rarely do anything but throw their own misguided opinions around and go out of there way to improve it. If every citizen in the U.S. would fulfill their duty to their country and serve it well, guys that shouldn't be there medically and mentally wouldn't. In respect To Pvt. Deitrich he died a honorable death, in battle, in defense of his country. Name something that you snickering ingrates have done that was honorable for your country...

  • Posted By: tiredofthelies @ 07/10/2008 12:48:37 AM

    There is a lot of misinformation in this piece. There are a lot of lies in this article. This reporter only told hear-say. Not the facts.

    • Posted By: worriedforthefamilymemebers @ 07/15/2008 1:18:46 AM

      I agree with tiredofthelies!!!!!! I live with Dietrich's sister and I can tell you I relive the visit from the statepolice and the army officer who had the unfortunate duty to tell us of his dismise everyday. Now knowing that there is this article with nothing but a bunch of lies; she has been upset ever since we found out about the articles. It is bad enough she has to go thru therapy just to deal with the death of her best friend/brother now she has to live with these lies. I feel that Newsweek should have checked out all the facts before writing them. I feel that Raisners should have gotten permission from the family before talking to this reporter from Newsweek. Worriedforthe familymemebers

  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 7:29:55 PM

    Yeah judgment like voting NO for the NEW GI BILL, Hey Mr. McCain who are we suposed to be killing in Iraq, sunni or shia? What's a Kurd? And even though the US weapons inspectors said there were NO weapons, expolsives, or ammunition from Iran, and the latest NIE said Iran had backed away from uranium enrichment...why are you deterimined to take this country into another, a third war? Is it because of your "experience" and "Judgment"?

  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/11/2008 10:55:38 PM

    OMG Look at what CornHolyO posted...it's amazing...

    Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/11/2008 21:56:41
    Comment: 4+ a gallon. If Israel bombs Iran US gets involved, McBushes wet dream, except we have NO military to support a third war, more of our children die, which if fine with McCain as he does not support them anyway oh yeah, soon 7-8/gallon.

    McCain-Killing and Drilling now
    "Handsome"-kNOws it will have no immediate effect on prices and infact would take years and caot billions to even get to, cost passed on to the US in dollars on the gallon, and if there ever was oil found, NO promise from any of the US oil folks to NEVER RAISE PRICES AGAIN ABOVE 1$ a gal.

    McCain-Nucular Energy Plants Now but also thinks that NE plants have root and grow in the ground
    "Handsome"- tells George Bush the word is NUCLEAR...

    McCain-Clean Coal Energy Now, thinks this means polishing all the little pieces of coal, insists this would be a great job for illegals.
    "Handsom"-NO problem with it at all, unless you ask Sean Hannity.

    McCain-Shale Oil Now, thinks that Shale is another faction of epople from Iraq, sunni Shia, Shale, and "What the hell is a Kurd."
    "Handsome"-NO problem here either, wow he's on the ball.

    McCain-Independent from Middle East Oil or stay in Iraq for 100 yrs? What ever comes first
    Hussein-kNOws, they are out of oil in Saudi in 2015, let them dry up and blow away. along with the oil a$$es here.

    McCain-American Hero, crashed 5 fighters before being shot down, cried "my daddy is an admiral" when he was caught, willingly did 32 propagnada films for the VC, earning the nickname ":Song Bird" (google it)because as soon as he was caught he started singing for the enemy, lied to America's POWs when he said he wouild never politicize his status as a "pow", and then never stopped doing it. Turned his back on our troops on the recent GI Bill Vote, where he no showed and no voted because he was to afraid to face the music and just vote against it...my hero.
    Hussein-Not only out of power but DEAD and even though that was our "mission" we are still in Iraq and our children are still sying,

    NOTHINGLIKEOBAMA!!!
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    WOW! What a statement, good for you ConrHolyO, way to go...glad to see you come around

  • Posted By: kevinsm @ 06/27/2008 3:45:38 PM

    you got a lot of nerve to ask what he was doing in the military
    he was serveing our country proudly
    its a shame that you wrote about his mental issues instead of the pride him and his family have for his service
    i spent 4 yrs in the navy
    i had family in viet nam,korea.and wwII and in both gulf wars
    its sad that he had to give his life for our freedom but he sits with lots of others who gave their life for our freedom
    if you want to downgrade someone do it to those who want the freedoms we enjoy in the us but dont want any one to fight for them
    its easy for you to sit in an air conditioned office and talk about what was right or wrong for him
    he made his choices and im proud of him and his family even though i dont know them
    who do you think you are to ask whether or not someone should be in the military
    are you a phsyciatrist or some other kind of mental health expert
    if you arent then shut up!!!!!!

    • Posted By: tiredofthelies @ 07/10/2008 12:43:24 AM

      The writer did not do his research. Why did he not interview this boy's family. His grandfather was in the Navy not the Marines. They make it sound like this boy's family didn't love him. Those are lies. His sister loved him dearly, they were always together. It hurts her when she reads about his family not being there for him. David is her hero. To bad this writer did not do his research like he should have. Guess it doesn't matter to some people who they hurt long as they look good. Rest in Peace David

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