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In Search of Cindy McCain

She may be the next First Lady. But Cindy McCain hasn't been living her life hoping and waiting for that day.

By Holly Bailey | NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Jun 30, 2008

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  • Posted By: mgdrmom @ 10/30/2008 12:50:30 AM

    Comment: Cindy and John like to talk about how they believe in family values and the importance of marriage, yet they met when John was still married to another woman and began an affair. Once John dumped his crippled wife, he married the very rich and insecure Cindy. They both saw the opportunity in one another, her father's money and power and his family history. As parents they are equally as rotten. As a resident of Arizona, I have a relative that was the head of nursing when Cindy and John delivered their babies. She had a planned c-section at 32 weeeks, which left the baby in the hospital for two months for care. As soon as Cindy delivered the baby she left the hospital and did not return. The nannies were given all the instructions for care and the baby was discharged to the nanny. Cindy and John did not have anything to do with the kids. In the case of the second child, being born at 32 weeks as a PLANNED c-section, the baby was very ill and could have potentially cause lasting damage to the baby. Cindy is a self-serving and horrible human being. She wants the white house more than John. Any woman who would wear a 300 thousand dollar outfit, while most of the US is struggling to eat and save their homes and families makes me sick. This couple is so fake and untrustworthy. Cindy is evil...pure and simple.

  • Posted By: TobyAnn @ 10/05/2008 10:25:00 PM

    Comment: I would like to offer a small positive contribution about Cindy McCain. Cindy led medical teams to foreign countries from approximately 1988 to 1995 (somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 trips.) The team members paid their own way and many of the volunteers returned for several trips to different countries. My mother was one of these volunteers, assisting on 5 of these trips. My mom went to Bangladesh with Cindy when the McCain's found their little abandoned baby girl, Bridget. Cindy fell in love with Bridget. My mom was given the privilege of carrying Bridget on the plane from Bangladesh to Arizona and every time John McCain would see my mom after the trips she went on with Cindy and the teams, he told her they wouldn't have their little Bridget if it hadn't been for her. She knew she wasn't really responsible for their having their little girl, but it sure warmed her heart to receive that recognition from John McCain.

    This family is so interested in helping others. They offer of themselves and their blessings from God. They sure have MY vote!

  • Posted By: iguana @ 10/02/2008 8:00:04 AM

    Comment: Thank You, for this beautiful article. Does she make me proud of an American woman? Yes, she sure does!

  • Posted By: AdrienneMarie550 @ 09/20/2008 2:18:05 PM

    Comment: Cindy McCain is under a lot more scrutiny than Michelle Obama, and my heart goes out to her. My heart goes out to Mrs. Obama as well because she has suffered attacks too. When will we, the American people, and the media, begin respecting these women and focusing on the ISSUES rather than vicious gossip? I believe everyone has made a few mistakes, concentrate on fixing your own problems before attacking these women.

  • Posted By: snooger @ 09/07/2008 9:38:35 AM

    Comment: At the Republican convention a man talked about how Cindy McCain went to Mother Teresa's orphanage and was given 2 almost dying infants, one with a clef palate, to take home and she carried them in her arms and gave his family one and kept the other. Can someone explain to me how she could get these two infants home without diapers, bottles, etc, how she carried them herself all that time, and how did she get them into the United State and by what authority give one away and keep one? Private airplane? Were these children legally adopted? The young girl on stage apears to be frozen there, trying to smile but looking pretty blank, altho quite pretty, as though she didn't know what was going on. I saw no scars on either girls' mouth to indicate clef palate. It's a great story, but how did she do it?

    • Posted By: mgdrmom @ 10/30/2008 12:55:06 AM

      Comment: money and power

    • Posted By: TobyAnn @ 10/05/2008 10:51:37 PM

      Comment: Hi, Snooger,

      Please look at my comment a bit after yours. I have newspaper clippings showing Cindy holding Bridget and my mom holding Leela (now Kimberly). The photo I have shows a very deformed baby Bridget - cleft lip and pallate. In Bangladesh, these two infants had the great misfortune of being girls (strike #1), very dark (strike #2), and Bridget with a cleft lip (very obvious strike #3 from which she probably would have died if left in the orphanage due to lack of the special type of medical care she would need). It turned out that Leela (Kimberly) had to have heart surgery when she got to the United States (her strike #3). Cindy didn't carry both little girls at a time but she carried Bridget at times and my mom carried her at others. There were other women on the teams, as well as men, who could and would have taken turns carrying the little girls. They were ORPHANS being lovingly cared for by the nuns so this adoption was probably most welcome. The babies and Cindy traveled by regular commercial airplanes since there was a good-sized medical team accompanying Cindy - the team that traveled to these foreign countries to help underserved people with their health issues.

      As for Kimberly, I thought she spoke with great composure on the stage (picture yourself at 17 in front of a large audience besides the huge one viewing her on TV), acknowledging her adoptive family and her gratitude for the life she has by being adopted into such a loving family.

      As I stated earlier, the McCain's are a family much to be admired. If only we all were so servant-hearted.

  • Posted By: gumshoe @ 08/29/2008 1:39:24 PM

    Comment: Gutsy of this reporter to refer to the perpetrators of the 2000 smear campaign simply as McCain's "opponents": why are you afraid to name them Ms. Bailey? It was George W. Bush and his chief political advisor Karl Rove, working with Marvin "Compassionate Conservative" Olasky of God's World Publications of Asheville, NC who engineered the smear campaign against Cindy, calling her a drug-addict and darkly suggesting her adopted daughter was a mulatto "love child" of an illicit affair with a black woman.

    In other words, a blatant, demagogic appeal to the basest instincts of South Carolina's hardcore Republican bigots.

    And, it worked -- beautifully. Bush overtook McCain's lead and went on to victory.

    Did John McCain defend his wife and child's honor in a manner befitting a decorated soldier -- a punch in the face to Mr. Bush and / or Mr. Rove would have been entirely justified. No, he took the smear without fighting back and then, after Bush stole the election, McCain cozied up to the new Commander-in-Chief to advance his own political career.

    Shame on you John McCain...

    Shame on anyone who would vote for a party that uses such tactics.

  • Posted By: gumshoe @ 08/29/2008 1:39:05 PM

    Comment: Gutsy of this reporter to refer to the perpetrators of the 2000 smear campaign simply as McCain's "opponents": why are you afraid to name them Ms. Bailey? It was George W. Bush and his chief political advisor Karl Rove, working with Marvin "Compassionate Conservative" Olasky of God's World Publications of Asheville, NC who engineered the smear campaign against Cindy and darkly suggested her adopted daughter was a mulatto "love child."

    Did John McCain defend his wife and child's honor in a manner befitting a decorated soldier -- a punch in the face to Mr. Bush and / or Mr. Rove would have been entirely justified. No, he took the smear without fighting back and then, after Bush stole the election, McCain cozied up to the Commander-in-Chief to advance his own political career.
    Gutsy of this reporter to refer to the perpetrators of the 2000 smear campaign simply as McCain's "opponents": why are you afraid to name them Ms. Bailey? It was George W. Bush and his chief political advisor Karl Rove, working with Marvin "Compassionate Conservative" Olasky of God's World Publications of Asheville, NC who engineered the smear campaign against Cindy, calling her a drug-addict and darkly suggesting her adopted daughter was a mulatto "love child" of an illicit affair with a black woman.

    In other words, a blatant, demagogic appeal to the basest instincts of South Carolina's hardcore Republican bigots.

    And, it worked -- beautifully. Bush overtook McCain's lead and went on to victory.

    Did John McCain defend his wife and child's honor in a manner befitting a decorated soldier -- a punch in the face to Mr. Bush and / or Mr. Rove would have been entirely justified. No, he took the smear without fighting back and then, after Bush stole the election, McCain cozied up to the new Commander-in-Chief to advance his own political career.

    Shame on you John McCain...

    Shame on anyone who would vote for a party that uses such tactics.


  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/28/2008 6:19:27 PM

    Comment: Dems choose Obama in thunderous acclamation
    Yahoo News by David Espo, AP Special Correspondent Wed Aug 27, 7:18 PM ET

    Clinton's call for Obama to be approved by acclamation ??? midway through the traditional roll call of the states ??? was the culmination of a painstaking agreement worked out between the two camps to present a unified front.


    My commentary:

    So, democrats, in order to portray a false unification, schemed to allow politics to trump the democratic process.

    And they are insulted when people don???t refer to them as the democrat(ic) party!

    Yes, the truth is offensive to the democrat party!

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/26/2008 3:30:37 PM

    Comment: McCain uses Vietnam ordeal against jibes over wealth
    REUTERS by Andrew Gray Aug. 25, 2008

    BURBANK, California (Reuters) - John McCain, who often invokes his ordeal as a Vietnam war prisoner to show his devotion to his country as he runs for U.S. president, drew on the experience again on Monday -- this time to deflect sniping over the number of houses he owns.

    McCain's Democratic rival Barack Obama last week accused the Republican senator of being out of touch with ordinary people after he was unable to say in an interview how many houses were owned by him and his wife Cindy, a wealthy heiress to a beer distributorship.

    In an appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, McCain, 71, said his priority was to keep Americans in their homes in tough economic times.

    Then he recalled his Vietnam experience.
    "I spent 5 1/2 years in a prison cell without -- I didn't have a house. I didn't have a kitchen table. I didn't have a table. I didn't have a chair," he said.
    "I spent those 5 1/2 years ... not because I wanted to get a house when I got out."

    U.S. HOUSING WOES
    Rising energy prices and the faltering economy have become central issues in the race for the White House. The next president will inherit problems including a mortgage crisis that has cost many Americans their homes.

    McCain said he was prepared to deal with that and sought to play down the controversy over his family's assets.

    "I'm proud of my record of service to this country and it has nothing to do with houses. What it has to do with (is) putting Americans in houses and keeping them in their homes. And that's what I know how to do," he said to loud cheers from the studio audience.

    On the show the Arizona senator listed four homes he and his wife have -- one in the Washington area, two in Arizona and one in California. Media reports and Democrats have said the couple have at least seven properties when investments are included.

    McCain said he was proud of the way his wife's father had built up a large business after fighting in World War Two.

    With the Democrats engaged in their convention in Denver this week that will formally nominate Obama and the Republicans due to meet next week, polls show the two candidates locked in a dead heat in the popular vote. McCain predicted a tight finish in the November 4 election

    Obama's house in the affluent Chicago neighborhood of Hyde Park is worth more than $1.5 million, and he has made millions from the publication of two autobiographical books.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/26/2008 4:31:55 AM

    Comment: Senior Dems Concerned Over McCain Gains
    The Hill by Alexander Bolton Aug. 25, 2008

    DENVER ??? Senior Democratic politicians are signaling concern about Sen. Barack Obama???s (Ill.) slip in the polls and are urging him to regain his edge against GOP rival Sen. John McCain (Ariz.).

    Rep. John Dingell (Mich.), the longest-serving House Democrat, said Obama must realize the primary season is behind him and Republicans will ???run a very rough campaign against him.???

    Dingell???s critique comes in the wake of polls showing that McCain has gained ground on Obama since the Democratic senator left the campaign trail for a family vacation in Hawaii. A CNN poll released Monday showed McCain and Obama in a dead heat.

    ???The campaign has not yet taken off,??? said Dingell in a telephone interview. ???He???s got to address things that go into a presidential campaign as opposed to a primary campaign. They???re very different campaigns.???

    Even Obama???s allies, including Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the co-chairman of Obama???s campaign, acknowledge McCain has gained ground. Durbin said Obama???s absence from the news cycle during his Hawaii vacation, combined with Russia???s invasion of Georgia, gave McCain a chance to dominate the race over the last 10 days.

    ???We realize over the last week or 10 days that John McCain has had a 12-0 run in this basketball game,??? said Durbin, who hastened to add: ???We know the momentum can shift.

    ???My observation is, and I talked a little bit about it with Barack after [his] tour overseas with dramatic positive results, that we expected an evening of the playing field,??? he said.

    Dingell said Obama can regain momentum if he addresses substantive issues such as a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, rebuilding of the nation???s roads and infrastructure, and the lack of health insurance for an estimated 47 million Americans, including 1 million in Michigan.

    Dingell???s words carry weight because of his seniority in the House and his knowledge of Michigan politics. The AFL-CIO, an important ally of the Democratic Party, has identified Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania as the three most important battleground states of the campaign.

    Durbin said Obama???s family vacation was ???well-deserved,??? but blamed Russia???s invasion of Georgia for focused media attention on McCain???s national security credentials. McCain is a former prisoner of war and senior Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    ???All those things came together in a moment giving McCain the field ??? I mean, a stronger position than he might have otherwise have had,??? Durbin said.

  • Posted By: divaoffaith1 @ 08/25/2008 1:51:36 PM

    Comment: Davole,

    You would like us all to believe and follow your thought process, well thank GOD that he gave me a brain and common sense to use it. No thank you. I love my right to make my own choices about my body. I do not make 5 million dollars a year, so therefore I guess I am screwed. Say what you want, McCain is not the answer to my prayers. He has no respect for women and if they vote for him, they will deserve whatever he dishes out to them. I strongly believe that if Obama was of another nationality, he would be getting much KUDOS!!! You speak of 9/11, what about Hurricane Katrina and how he deserted those poor people. No one dare to speak of that.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/26/2008 4:47:43 AM

      Comment: divaoffaith1 -

      I like your screen name - sounds very humble!

      Since you have posted your comment to me as a new topic to discuss, I don't know which post or reply of mine you are criticizing.

      Yes, God has given you a free will, and a conscience, and will hold you accountable for your actions in life.
      I believe that He considers all life to be sacred, and worthy of protection.

      When the time comes, I hope that you will be in His "good book"!

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/25/2008 12:22:47 PM

    Comment: Obama camp downplays Clinton backers at convention
    MyWay by Darlene Superville Aug 25, 2008

    DENVER (AP) - Barack Obama's campaign dismissed concerns about the impact of die-hard supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton on the choreographed show of unity Democrats were opening Monday at their nominating convention.

    Opening night at the Pepsi Center, the main venue for the four-day Democratic National Convention, aimed to tell the Illinois senator's personal story to the millions of voters nationwide who will begin tuning in to the presidential campaign. Obama's wife, Michelle, was the evening's keynote speaker.

    An emotional highlight was expected to come with a video tribute to Sen. Edward M. Kennedy. The liberal stalwart was diagnosed in May with a malignant brain tumor and has had surgery and a six-week course of chemotherapy and radiation.

    Behind the scenes, however, polls showing significant Clinton support still being denied to Obama and pro-Clinton demonstrations at offsite venues were creating a different kind of anticipation. Clinton has backed Obama and was scheduled to speak Tuesday night.

    "There are a lot of delegates here who had passionate choices in an extended primary season," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs told "Today" on NBC. "We feel confidant that if we can demonstrate a record of change, a record of vision ... a team of Barack Obama and Joe Biden can convince Democrats, Republicans and independents to support a ticket of change in November."

    Republican candidate John McCain tried to widen any schism remaining between primary-season rivals with a TV ad featuring a Clinton supporter who now backs McCain over Obama.

    "She had the experience and judgment to be president," says Debra Bartoshevich, identified by the McCain campaign as a former Clinton delegate. Of McCain, she says: "I respect his maverick and independent streak, and now he's the one with the experience and judgment. A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It's OK, really!"

  • Posted By: LenaParker @ 08/24/2008 9:01:19 PM

    Comment: The real Cindy McCain, not. I hope you can open this link:

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/1

  • Posted By: Sammamishreader @ 08/23/2008 11:43:13 PM

    Comment: Cindy is not the 'only child' of her father. She has two half sisters - one on her father's side and one on her mother's. Why doesn't she talk about them.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 3:51:10 PM

      Comment: Samamishreader -

      Maybe you've never asked her about them!

      By the way, you've never mentioned any of your relatives - now here's your opportunity.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 11:22:50 PM

    Comment: Romney - an effete French-speaking millionaire.

    McCain - an aging old fart who is still reliving his Viet Nam days, still fighting the wars, but he ditched his first wife for a millionairess. Now he too is a mega-millionaire. Out of touch. Out of tune. and Running Out of Time.

    Bushes - the most mysterious family in the USA. Supporters of the Hitler regime. Wall Street Scions. Mega-millionaires with close ties to Saudi Princes and the Bin Laden family. Architects of two of the worst banking crises in the history of the USA. Perpetrators of four wars, reinstitution of torture, imprisoning illegally, profiteering off national disasters like Hurricane Katrina, and of course, creating one of the world's largest humanitarian crises in the Middle East - displacing MILLIONS of people from their ancestral homes in Iraq permanently.

    Do my fellow Americans really want to be represented by these *** for another four years?

    Try to adapt. Try to embrace cool. Try not to blow it again. The world is watching, hoping and waiting for us to wise up and show our true colors once again: Courage, Loyalty, Decency, Intelligence, Ingenuity, Honesty.

    We have lost our way with the Bushes. McSame and Romney will be like Laurel and Hardy trying so hard to appeal to the Middle Class - the majority in this country who works hard to put a roof over their heads. These effete, elitist millionaires are not only out of touch - they're out. Period.

  • Posted By: lil'_dymphna @ 08/23/2008 11:01:02 AM

    Comment: Awwww, you mean she's NOT the red hot-NASCAR-lovin'-one-of-the-people gal as portrayed in the "Spotlight on the real Cindy McCain" story as featured on CNN American Morning???! You mean that could have been a cynical manipulation of an image for the benefit of simple country folk like me. Darnit! Tarnation! And I was feeling so good about myself there for a minute. I guess it's back to God, Gay Marriage, and Guns.

    I don't really think any of the people running or their spouses are bad people this time. I think they're humans and they had the same personally humiliating embarrassing lapses in judgment everybody has had, but only the honest admit even to themselves. I'm just so sad that their consultants determine that this is the way to market a candidate to me. Instead of issues, this race is being determined like a personality demolition derby. It's mindless fun and that's it.

    I don't like that McCain still can't say we were wrong to go into Iraq, even though it's been proven to be based on lies. I don't like that the formula for his economic plan will continue to widen the gap between the haves and have-nots, and leave my little son with an even greater debt to inherit when he comes of age. I don't like that Obama really isn't very experienced. But I don't think that McCain is senile. And I don't think that Obama is prejudiced against his mother's people. Who ever wins this election is going to have a hell of a mess to mop up. They ARE running to be the Next Jimmy Carter because the fix IS going to require huge sacrifices from us, the American people.

    I doubt very much that there will be a landslide this election because people are so angry and polarized. Why either side would chase the votes of a few idiots that can't make up their minds based on the facts at the risk of legitimating the umbrage taken by the other side is beyond me. Even if McCain had to go into a legitimate war he would have to deal with 46% of the country that absolutely hates and distrusts him because he tainted by the "warmonger" image whether he deserves it or not. Imagine if there was truly a crisis. How long will it take for him to meet the standard of proof to prosecute a war now? And what if Obama has to raise taxes and make budget cuts necessary to save our economic future with 46% percent of the country already hating him and "knowing" this was coming because he hates "whitie"?

    We are not chosing between Coke and Pepsi here. We are in the profound task of choosing our children's future. Let us demand better from our politicians, our press, and most importantly ourselves.

    Thank you for reading this post. I now turn the forum back to Enoch-120 who wants to tell you that "Michelle Obama is a "crack-headed 'ho" and NarlesBerkeley who would like to discuss the finer points of John and Cindy McCains' "Secret Pact with Satan".

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 12:45:00 AM

    Comment:
    Oh my, ain't Cindy Lou sure perty?

    McCain - Insanely Rich, yet still collecting Social Security.

    Out of touch, but not out of money.

    $600 Gucci tassled loafers with his dockes to see the Dalai Lama. Haute Couture of the Country Club Class.

    Celebrities are apparently disdained, looked down upon by the super-elitists like Bushes and McCains (and ROMNEYS) who are worth, individually, at least $100 million a year in personal wealth. But not social security from the Government - that is definitely worth pocketing - it's about milking the country for all it's worth.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 3:57:24 PM

      Comment: notroubleatall1963 -

      Jealousy will get you nowhere - you've got to work to improve your financial position.

      I know - you expect the government to take care of your every desire - not going to happen!

  • Posted By: OhioGuy55 @ 08/22/2008 11:26:19 AM

    Comment: This article describes her as an only child, which is incorrect. She has a half-sister that she doesn't ever mention, talk to, or acknowledge. Her father left his first wife and child for Cindy's mother, just like John McCain did to his first wife. Here's the article about this: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93708729 And here's another article about it: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/08

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 4:02:14 PM

      Comment: OhioGuy55 -

      Have you heard of divorce? It's quite prevalent in the US and elsewhere!

  • Posted By: OhioGuy55 @ 08/22/2008 11:25:12 AM

    Comment: This article describes her as an only child, which is incorrect. She has a half-sister that she doesn't ever mention. Her father left his first wife and child for Cindy's mother. Here's the article about this: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93708729 And here's another article about it: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/08/20/2008-08-20_youre_no_only_child_cindy_mccains_forgot.html

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/21/2008 11:20:57 PM

    Comment: Is this woman's name REALLY Cindy Lou? OMG.

    What WAS McCain's role in the S&L banking scandal??? Is there any connection to two BUSHES being in the White House at times when our country's BANKING SYSTEM is buckling??? Duh gee, I wonder. Maybe the Bushes and the McCains are at it again - finegling behind the scenes for their own private gain. Could that possibly be happening? Could these upright Republicans actually be criminals?????

    I pose the question because I don't see anybody connecting the dots in the media - probably scared to death the Bushes will ruin their careers like they did Dan RAther's when he investigated BUsh Jr.'s draft dodging days during his alleged stint in the National Guard or whatever he was supposedly doing during his stoner days in the 1970s.

  • Posted By: careader @ 08/21/2008 10:51:04 PM

    Comment: Newsweek's article should have been bylined by Cindy McCain. Is there any investigative reporting left? This story reads like a press release. The NPR story noted below is indeed amazing, as is the fact that none of the media has picked up on it. Mrs. McCain seems to deny the existance of other family - and her half sister's son has to call in to uncover this? Generosity doesn't appear to start at home

    Why do all the free trips on the posh airplane Mrs. McCain owns not considered contributions to the McCain campaign? When he was out of money this summer - he, unlike the rest of us was still traveling around in style.

    Maybe it is no wonder Mrs. McCain's parents welcomed philanderer John - Mr. Hensley had no issue - he knew the ropes on adultery.

  • Posted By: careader @ 08/21/2008 10:44:39 PM

    Comment: Newsweek's article should be entitled Cindy McCain glam report. Clearly Newsweek bought into Mrs. McCain's story hook line and sinker! Does anyone do investigative reporting

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 08/21/2008 2:32:52 PM

    Comment: Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden

    Nice Family LOL! I have never heard that Cindy McCain had a sister.

    link to article: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93708729

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 4:22:48 PM

      Comment: sjpersonal -

      Are you trying to be catty by your comment - "Nice family"?

      I've noticed that you have been blogging on this website longer than I have, so I doubt the honesty of your quip - "I have never heard that Cindy McCain had a sister". How pathetic!

      I must have seen at least 10 obomabot bloggers attempts to focus attention on Cindy McClean's sisters, and here you have the gall to suggest that you have never heard that she had a sister.

      Oh, now I "get it" - you're merely doing a "Bill Clinton" concerning what the meaning of the word "is" is, except now you are playing freely with the word "heard," to the exclusion of the word "learned."

      But I never really expect that any honesty would be displayed by an obamabot!

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 08/07/2008 11:07:03 PM

    Comment: Why is anyone trying to dish up some dirt on this woman???? I am sure that it's because Michelle oBAMA CAN'T keep her big mouth shut...that's typical black women..Women who are raised with social skills tend to keep their mouths shut while raising a solid, well educated, and secure family!!! Michelle is NO LADY!!! And to attempt to compare the two is ridiculous and assnine...

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 12:48:49 AM

      Comment:

      OMG - "Michelle is no lady" -- since when do Bourgeois Bigots tell the rest of us ladies how to behave? They're the shrews of our history books, the witch burners, the pious saints stabbing other women in the back, the Puritans promoting their piety while sinning in secret beyond anyone's wildest imagination....

      McCain - Insanely Rich, yet still collecting Social Security.

      Out of touch, but not out of money.

      $600 Gucci tassled loafers with his dockes to see the Dalai Lama. Haute Couture of the Country Club Class.

      Celebrities are apparently disdained, looked down upon by the super-elitists like Bushes and McCains (and ROMNEYS) who are worth, individually, at least $100 million a year in personal wealth. But not social security from the Government - that is definitely worth pocketing - it's about milking the country for all it's worth.

      • Posted By: mgdrmom @ 10/30/2008 1:08:41 AM

        Comment: Enter Your Comment How sad and racist you are. You are why this country is seen as so backwards. The color of someones skin does not dictate their actions. Michelle is a highly educated, family oriented and classy woman. Let me guess, if the Obamas were white and named the Petersons you would love her then. Get your head out the past and realize that times are changing and your kind are fazing out quickly!

      • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 4:32:26 PM

        Comment: notroubleatall1963 -

        You seem to fixate on those "$600 Gucci tassled loafers" - are you jealous?
        Then get off your behind and work to afford a pair.

        Oh, by the way, they do seem to be quite a worthwhile financial investment - just last week, another jealous obamabot said that they were worth $500. So that's a $100 appreciation in one week. Fantastic!

    • Posted By: whyme?? @ 08/13/2008 3:47:46 PM

      Comment: How long have you been black? I ask only because you seem to know so much about us. I fully understand what Michelle Obama was saying and it doesn't have anything to do with how her family raised her. It is very hard to be really proud of a country that can't bring itself to be proud of you. I, like Michelle, was a good student, obtained college degrees and went on to a professional that was honorable and worthwhile. Yet, most of my life I have been aware that some of white America considered me inferior and was bound and determined to let me know it. As a child, I refused to join my family when they visited the South because I could not bear having to sit on the back of the bus, or drink out of colored only fountains, Nevertheless, even then the "Star Spangled Banner" filled me with pride. However, I can't say I was really proud of my country. I couldn't be because my country was not proud of me.

      • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 4:50:26 PM

        Comment: whyme?? -

        Even your screen name indicates a personal preoccupation with being a victim!

        Why should your country be proud of you, when you won't even strive to be the best that you can be?
        Instead you appear to want pride to be served to you on a silver platter.

        It just doesn't "work" that way -you have to WORK to achieve that pride by helping others and thereby elevating your own worth!

        Hopefully you're not deluding yourself by expecting the government to give you that pride without you doing anything to achieve it yourself.

        Slavery, blacks being relegated to riding in the back of the bus, and blacks being expected to use the black segregated fountains ended many years ago - don't rely on that convenient crutch - get with the times, and contribute to society!

        Yes, I admit that I have been forthright in my reply to you.
        Hopefully you will take my suggestion to heart - I will pray for you in that regard!

        But it all has to start with you!

  • Posted By: powin @ 08/06/2008 11:55:06 AM

    Comment: Barack Obama is funded by some of the most powerful groups in the world.

    If anyone does their research here, they will see that Barack Obama is funded by some of the most powerful groups in the world. Google, for example, was ranked as the 6th most powerful company in the U.S. The Goldman Sachs families like various other donors here are directly linked to the Rothschild Family, the most powerful family in the world. They created and own along with other foreign investors the Federal Reserve System. The Rothschilds were pivotal in the creation of the EU. Obama has the corporate interests backing him and this is undeniable. Here is a list of some of his highest donors. Cross reference these donors and you will see that it is irrefutable that Obama is backed by the most powerful and influential and has their interests in mind.

    Goldman Sachs $627,730
    University of California $523,120
    JPMorgan Chase & Co $398,021
    Citigroup Inc $393,899
    UBS AG $378,400
    Google Inc $373,212
    Harvard University $369,802
    Lehman Brothers $353,922
    National Amusements Inc $352,603
    Moveon.org $347,463
    Sidley Austin LLP $326,845
    Skadden, Arps et al $304,050
    Time Warner $298,972
    Morgan Stanley $291,388
    Microsoft Corp $276,925
    Jones Day $266,705
    Latham & Watkins $252,845
    University of Chicago $250,685
    Wilmerhale Llp $249,282
    Exelon Corp $239,061

  • Posted By: claudiap56@yahoo.com @ 07/22/2008 10:42:12 PM

    Comment: capitol, not capital------amazed your editors did not catch this very obvious error. Poor writing skills among the paid professionals, not just my students!

  • Posted By: PatiencePie @ 07/17/2008 6:20:59 PM

    Comment: A vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of Bush... same failed policies on tax, foreign policy, the economy, education ... every single thing Bush touched turned to ashes, and with McCain it will be more of the same. Even his so-called "environmentalism" turns out to be a sham (he didn't even show up for the VOTE on the latest bill to lower greenhouse gas emissions) Plus he didn't support the latest bill for veteran's benefits -- that killed it. Finally any man who snaps out at his wife in public is way too angry for my taste. I think McCain will put the final nails into the coffin that Bush has built for America -- if we elect him, the downward trend becomes a death spiral.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/24/2008 5:32:01 PM

      Comment: PatiencePie -

      Bush and McCain are two different leaders with two different platforms.

      You naively claim that "every single thing Bush touched turned to ashes, and with McCain it will be more of the same."

      Are you forgetting that after 9/11, Bush ensured that there would not be a repeat assault of that magnitude on American soil for the close to 8 years of his presidency?

      And McCain is much more capable than the wet-behind-the-ears novice Obama of continuing that same degree of security!

      Then you criticize McCain for not showing up "for the VOTE on the latest bill to lower greenhouse gas emissions." Have you ever bothered to think that maybe forest fires and volcanic activity contribute much more pollutants and greenhouse gas emissions than mankind does? Why won't the nefarious con man Al Gore agree to debate this issue with any scientists who oppose his unfounded allegations which would cripple the American economy?

      And with reference to your comment that ???any man who snaps out at his wife in public is way too angry for my taste??? - when did that happen, what were the circumstances, did he apologize, and was the apology accepted? Has he repeated that disrespect, is he still married to his wife, and for how many years have they been married? Besides, have you never said anything to anyone which you later regretted?
      And can you forgive?

      Open up your mind, and THINK in a rational manner, instead of blindly following the same pathetic obamabot talking points which seem to ridiculously permeate this website!

  • Posted By: stevel114 @ 07/08/2008 10:03:43 PM

    Comment: Check out this link as to who the real John McCain is:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
    Not discussed much that John was having other girl friends when he was married. Also the article makes it sound like Cindy was a Navy wife when she was not married to John until after he left the Navy.

    • Posted By: mgdrmom @ 10/30/2008 1:15:05 AM

      Comment: Enter Your CommentFirst of all Johnny boy called his wife one of the worst words you can call a woman. He said it in front of three Arizona reporters. He is a scary and over the edge man. Imagine spending over five years being tortured, what does that do to your emotional state?......oh yes I know you pick someone like Palin.....he is crazy and I would be frightened to know that he has his finger on the button! look at the October issue of Rolling Stone...it sums up McNasty's life.

  • Posted By: stevel114 @ 07/08/2008 9:57:50 PM

    Comment: Here is a link to some insight into who the real John McCain is:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
    Tell me this is who you want to be president.

    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/11/2008 12:20:03 PM

      Comment: I read this McCain information and it actually suggests that his ex-wife SHOULD be upset with him even though she isn't. If his ex has his bumper sticker on her car and considers him on honorable man, then he must have taken pretty good care of her in the divorce.

      What else you got?

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/07/2008 4:53:38 PM

    Comment:

    We could wait a lifetime for a skeleton key presidential nominee to come along who flawlessly interfaces with each of our pet issues, and, consequently, we'd probably die a politically disappointed and overly cynical death.

    What attracted me to Senator Obama's candidacy wasn't that he was going to evolve into some kind of liberal messiah who I would agree with all the time. He never really made any promises of that sort, and it was clear -- especially to Kucinich and Edwards supporters -- that Senator Obama wasn't entirely in line with what are generally considered to be netroots or progressive causes. Rather, he's always been the pragmatic liberal whose every slogan and statement -- often employing the collective pronoun "we" -- seeks common ground between deep blue and blood red. He's the liberal who this week, while simultaneously reaching out to evangelical voters, issued an unequivocal statement of opposition against any constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. That's textbook Obama.

    After I read the letter of support he sent to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club, I remembered why I chose to support the senator's campaign -- and why it evolved into an enthusiasm for a politician that I've never quite experienced in my adult life. So why then...? In the simplest terms possible, choosing to support Senator Obama has never been about issues, but rather, it's always been about, 1) electing a thoughtful, smart president we can reference with pride -- a president who won't flatly embarrass us every damn day, and 2) electing a president who can inspire and negotiate the necessary support he'll need to roll back the darkness of the Bush years.

    Continued below:


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/07/2008 4:53:15 PM

    Comment:

    Continued From Above:

    To that effect, and even though there are many who come close, I can't name another presidential-quality politician who's shown himself to be better suited to achieve these broad goals. Despite how we feel about individual issues like FISA or NAFTA, I think most of us with liberal or progressive tendencies can agree that we have a candidate here who is going to succeed on these challenges, while potentially forming a long-range coalition of support that could one day result in a purely progressive netroots candidate.

    Those of us who have been strapped into this dark ride -- arms and legs locked into the tram, following these crimes and scandals and unconstitutional measures for too long... we've been damaged a little. We've been round-house kicked in the throat once too often. Sometimes by members of our own party. So it makes sense when some of us express shock or disillusionment at the actions of a politician regardless of their party affiliation. Besides, there's nothing wrong with criticizing the friendlies (though we're told that, politically, it might be wiser to keep our powder dry until after Senator McBush is soundly defeated). But what has served to keep me sane during these last weeks -- or saner -- has been the broad-stroke recollection of why, irrespective of the finer points, I decided to back this guy named Barack Obama for president in the first place.

    If we're able to deliver the mandate he'll require in November -- which means a solid electoral college victory and expectations-defying down-ballot victories -- Senator Obama will help to vindicate our long-suffering, dark ride generation and, thusly, our time in American history -- a time that seems to be so perfectly summarized in thumbnail-form by this current Summer of Awful. If we can keep our attention focused on the big ideas that attracted us to the senator in the first place, he will make us proud.


    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/08/2008 10:13:16 AM

      Comment: You can't think of any politicians "better suited" to be president? How about anyone with a track record exceeding two years in the senate? Supporting Obama is predicated on the concept that when given a choice of bus drivers to take your kids to school over dangerous highways.... people will want the least experienced driver who can promise a new and exciting type of driving. No thanks. Give me the experience of someone that voters have sent back to the same office more than once.

      Admittedly, McCain was not my first choice from the republican pile of candidates, nor would have Obama been my choice from the democrat's list, but given these two choices... I will have to go with the experience of someone who has been driving for more than a couple of years.

      And as far as embarrassing presidents go... who was the last democrat president that wasn't embarrassing? To get past the impeached and disbarred disaster of the 90's, and the obvious problems of Jimmy Carter.... I guess you have to go all the way back to Kennedy to find a democrat that didn't make us look too bad.

      Give Obama another 8 to 12 years. His day might come, but it's not here yet. It's fun to fantasize about someone new and exciting, but it's not practical. We are looking for a leader, not a date. Most grocery stores are run by men older than Obama.

      • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/08/2008 5:43:59 PM

        Comment:


        There has never been a bigger embarassment than Bush and Mccain will be the same maybe worse!
        Bush was the biggest mistake the American voters have ever made and we will be regreting it for generations to come.

        Jr and the Devil (Bush & Cheney) are a detriment to The United States and our Constitution

        To be sure the signers of the Declaration of Independence represented the enfranchised classes of Englishmen, but they also knew the difference between a republic and a kingdom and they understood the significance of a government based on a written consititution. Writing under a pseudonym in the Boston Gazette in 1774, John Adams both asserted the English origins of the new republic and its aspiration to something different when he famously quoted the English republican theorist James Harrington's call for an "Empire Of Laws And Not Of Men," strategically substituting the word "government" for Harrington's "empire." We have in the last seven years seen a sustained and often successful effort to replace that government of laws with something closer to the royal prerogative against which Harrington wrote in 1656.

        As I look at and read your post I do see some resemblance of sense in your distorted view of the world in which you believe that as most people who live the tainted life of a right wing conservative deeply rooted in the Hamilton faction, that the invasion/occupation was not a lie made up to protect the Us Oil Industries interest in the Middle East.

        A fool to be made in his own skin is by his own hand. You are just a trumpeter for antiquated ideals that have seen there day. We have been played as pawns as well as you have for to long. Some people just don't get it.

        It is us The American people who are the agents of change and Barack Obama is the best that we have in that effort to get it. Get It? Well I doubt it!

        McCain't and isn't able to Govern" can't drive never could and never will be able to drive he is a mere mirage of himself. And I have always drove my Children to school. i would not trust my children with a bus driver + 70 years of age.

        • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/08/2008 7:26:48 PM

          Comment: Sheesh.... you got a little off the subject there with all the John Adams stuff. Personally, I believe that John Adams is the true father of America. He did more to assure our separation from England than Washington ever did, but let us not digress.....
          Obama is unproven. At least with McCain we know what to expect. McCain is not Bush III, you have got to stop getting all your catch phrases from Mother Jones magazine.
          McCain has been around awhile and we know what his priorities are. All we know for sure about Obama is that he will tax the crap out of working America and screw up healthcare even worse that it already is. The only upside of an Obama win would be that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would have to retire their tired rhetoric regarding the oppression of Black America.
          As tempting a prize as that might be, it's not worth the risk. You leftys have always been suckers for smooth talkers. Please try to recognize that truth before you make another huge mistake with this rookie.

          • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/09/2008 10:19:53 AM

            Comment:


            I respect your opinion but do not agree with it. I have been following McCain's political life for quite a while and as far as I can tell he blew his chance many years ago with his frequent midnight raids on Bills by inserting ammendments that would cause them to fail, his temper tantrums durning Senate hearings sabatoging the entire precedings, all caught on CSPAN for the world to see and I was watching. His move to the left after he was swift boated by The bushies and then came crawling back with his red dog tail between his legs supporting the very creep that distroyed his integrity, his once good name and any chance of being the nominee in 2000 and now he has hired the very Creep (Karl Rove) that designed and instigated his distruction. yeah he has a lot of experience but lacks the wisdom, the judgement and the back bone of a great leader. he show signs of the early stages of Alzhiemers, doesn't understand or even know who we are ingaged in battle with in the middle east, has 1400 pages of medical records and those are the only ones that have been released and the list goes on and on.

            These are not reasons why I think you shouldn't vote for Mccain I personaly don't give a rats @ss who you vote for. These are just reasons why i won't vote for him and I have plenty more. so lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that. by the way i don't have clue who in hell mother jones is, Abraham Lincoln is my favorite President and John Adams my favorite American my favorite Senators Gaylord Nelson and William Proxmier. I have been involved in Politics before I was first able to vote and believe politics is infested with people who just don't have the talent to do things honestly correct no matter whos party you care to look at. The political process is severly broken and McCains history has bore the truth that he will not fix it nor will he even try. he is extremely comfortable in the damaged political process which he has helped to create.

            have a nice life Flori and for all of us may we be spared more of the same

            • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/09/2008 1:21:46 PM

              Comment: Driver, I just wanted to commend you on your well reasoned reply that was long on depth and void of condescension. Nice work. Current issues aside, what caught my eye in your comments was ranking John Adams as your favorite American. That's a nice way to express it. I really believe he is the TRUE father of America.

              I agree to disagree with you, but fear your support will probably help to put Obama over the top. I don't think he deserves it yet, but that's just the way it is, I suppose. Think about all those expensive years of secret service protection when he leaves office in his mid 40's.....
              The upside of his win will be the obvious boost to civil rights, and hopefully the reduction of civil right grandstanding for minorities. I am pro-equality, but all of the negative side effects America has received relating to the affirmative action type of mentality... I think a black (semi-black) president should quiet that down a bit. I hope that doesn't sound negative, because I see it as a positive for our country.

              That said, I also think that a lot of changes of heart will be occurring in voting booths all over America this November. When it comes time to pull the lever, I believe MANY people will be answering to deeply repressed prejudices and concerns about national security, which will probably push McCain ahead. Look for a LOT of that in the south and possibly southwest. Maybe the midwest. Maybe everywhere but New England and California. I also suspect that MANY McCain voters will lie about who they voted for out of some weird allegiance to political correctness.

              We will see. Either way, America will survive. We have been through much worse than either of these candidates. That's what makes this country great: Virtually nobody can single handedly screw it up for long.

              Good luck to you. Thank you for the thoughtful response(s).

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 12:03:33 AM

    Comment: FROM THE GALLUP POLLING:

    80% OF AMERICANS SEE MCCAIN AS CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF COMMANDER IN CHIEF:


    July 3, 2008
    Nearly All Americans Consider Military Service PATRIOTIC

    Symbolic gestures valued more highly by older Americans and the less educated

    by Lymari Morales

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Nearly two-thirds of Americans (62%) say serving in the U.S. military reveals "a great deal" about one's patriotism, ranking it second only to voting in elections among six items rated in a recent USA Today/Gallup poll. More than half of Americans (53%) say the same about reciting the pledge of allegiance, and far fewer about wearing an American flag pin.

    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama spent much of this Independence Day week trying to assure voters of his patriotism, having been faulted during the Democratic primary season for at times not wearing an American flag pin, and for not placing his hand over his heart during the national anthem on at least one occasion. Obama's speech on Monday, entitled "The America We Love," included praise for Republican rival John McCain's service to his country in Vietnam, in response to retired Gen. Wesley Clark's statement that McCain's experience as a Navy pilot and prisoner of war does not necessarily qualify him to be commander in chief.

    McCain's service in Vietnam is generally considered an advantage in this wartime election against Obama, who has never served in the military, and a key reason why:

    80% OF AMERICANS SEE MCCAIN AS CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF COMMANDER IN CHIEF:

    The Gallup data reveal that Americans do in fact consider military service in general to be a sign of patriotism. While Republicans are among the most likely of all groups to say serving in the military reveals a great deal about one's patriotism, more than half of both Democrats and independents agree. Republicans also tend to place more value on saying the pledge of allegiance and wearing an American flag pin, while independents align more closely with Democrats, who are generally less likely to place a high value on each action.

    source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108646/Nearly-All-Americans-Consider-Military-Service-Patriotic.aspx

  • Posted By: ericdrexil @ 07/05/2008 12:09:50 PM

    Comment: How does Cindy address the first Mrs McCain? Does she start her letters with, "Gee, I'm sorry I started dating our husband before you two were divorced." How about, "Come over some time, bring the kids." Obama on the other hand, has almost exactly 1/2 of 1 term experience in the senate. That is perhaps his "best" attribute. Where is Ross Perot when you need him?

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/05/2008 10:15:14 AM

    Comment:


    So now it is pick and chose your Veteran? Because one or another is a paid pundit of Corporate Media they are the only ones who have the right to voice an opinion? The rest of the veterans are unheard words and should be silenced because they are not on the right side of the political debate. Good luck with your endeavor to twist the fact that neither one of the generals disputed the facts that General Clark so Boldly and Heroically stated nor would they.

    From an interview in 1991 with David Frost:

    Mr. Frost refers to Iraq's display of captured American pilots, saying that "obviously most of them had been brutalized." General Schwarzkopf:...."That is not necessarily true. Their visible bruises, as was later pointed out by even the military, could have been suffered in being ejected from their planes". But General Schwarzkopf says he "didn't like the idea that I was seeing it on CNN".



  • Posted By: Galasso @ 07/04/2008 9:35:08 AM

    Comment: I am not sure which "Vets" are supporting Wesley Clark, but you need to factor in the comments made by Generals Schwarzkopf and Shelton when you weigh Clark's worth as a candidate. They both publicly stated that Clark has integrity and character problems. Clark was at odds with the Pentgon during the time he was Cdr of Nato and had SECDEF Cohen steaming "to get his (expletive deleted) off the televison!". In June 1999, Clark ordered the British Army contingent to attack a train carrying Russian troops who were headed to the Airfield in Pristina in order the seize it. The Brit Commander rightfully told Clark that would not do it and said that they were not there to start WWIII. So Clark ordered the US troops to do it. They could not react fast enough and it never happened. Clark was relieved and came home early to retire. He is generally viewed as a hothead and definitely likes to look at himself in the mirror quite a bit. General Shelton said that he is the type of person who will tell you one thing and then 5 minutes later tell someone else the opposite. Good luck with selling Clark to the American public because the military who have served under him or beside him have a completely different view.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/03/2008 12:35:31 PM

    Comment:

    UPDATE: Since a lot of you are sending words of support on here for General Clark, VoteVets.org started a petition......... (http://ga3.org/campaign/petitionclark)........ where you can sign to thank him, and tell him to keep it up. VoteVets.org will take the petition to General Clark, personally. Also, it's important to sign, so we can show the media that we've got his back.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/02/2008 7:51:16 PM

    Comment:

    Man, This is Rich

    Johnnie Midnight Strikes Again

    Let's keep in mind that no one seems to have argued with Clark on the merits of his claim. No one responded by saying, "General Clark is wrong -- in fact, McCain's POW experience does qualify him to be president." I suppose one could make that argument, but I haven't seen anyone actually make it. Instead, what they have said is that Clark was out of bounds to even raise the issue. To even assert that McCain's Vietnam experience isn't in and of itself a qualification for the Oval Office is such an unforgivable transgression that its merits don't need to be addressed.

    There is, however, one person who wouldn't disagree with Clark's statement that being a POW doesn't qualify you for the presidency. When asked by the National Journal in 2003, "Do you think that military service inherently makes somebody better equipped to be commander-in-chief?" this politician answered, "ABSOLUTELY NOT". History shows that some of our greatest leaders have had little or no military experience. ... When one advises [a presidential candidate] that they should be very careful about how much you talk about that, because you don't want it to sound self-serving." The politician who said "ABSOLUTELY NOT" was John McCain, and the presidential candidate he was talking about was John Kerry.

    Ha Ha Ha Ho Ho Ho He He He

    "McCain't and isn't able to Govern" is a mere mirage of himself

    extend your inevitable RISING PAIN with your vote for McCain


    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/03/2008 9:18:18 AM

      Comment: Clark is an elitist general who only seems to respect superiors.... guys like that don't even belong in the military. But attacking Clark in the media would be a loser's game. Nobody respects what he said, including Obama. Just let Clark bray like a donkey and look like an ass. He's already feeling the sting of his stupidity. Some statements are so out of line that they don't deserve the dignity of a response in the media.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/03/2008 10:51:27 AM

        Comment: What exactly did Gen. Clark say that was wrong. I heard the interview and I have to say that I did not hear anything that questioned McCain's military service. The commentator made the comment that Obama never flew a flighter plan and was shot down. Gen. Clark replied something like, I don't think that flying a flighter plane and being shot down automatically qualifies you to be president. What is insulting about this statement.

        • Posted By: loriw @ 07/03/2008 8:54:44 PM

          Comment: SJPersonal, you are again correct.
          It really ticks me off when the media takes comments out of context and then proceeds to twist them and embellish them with commentary to where the original text is unrecognizable in the end product.

  • Posted By: nfwriter @ 07/02/2008 3:03:11 PM

    Comment: So the Repuglicans plan to allow the Dems to win this one, eh? Right.
    I can see how it would benefit the Repugs to see it that way, seeing as how the Bush administration has left a trail of schmutz everywhere it has gone for the last eight years. Thanks a lot, Dick! Thanks, George! Thanks for everything, Repuglicans, you infantile, irresponsible thugs. If Rove politics leads to a generation of Democratic dominance, it wil be no worse than the GOP deserves.

    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/02/2008 4:11:36 PM

      Comment: Are you thanking we republicans for keeping airplanes out of our buildings since 9/11? Remember? That attack by the guy Clinton let go on three different occasions.... You're welcome. Good luck with the White House, and please don't steal the furniture on the way out.

  • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/02/2008 9:47:05 AM

    Comment: I'm a republican, but I can see how allowing Obama to win will be a benefit to conservatives. Having a black president will short circuit all the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons that think society is holding back minorities. The ACLU will suffer greatly because of it. If Obama does well I will benefit as a citizen, and if he turns out to be another Jimmy Carter, my party will see the benefit. I win either way. Thank you leftys for once again backing the pretty boy flavor of the month candidate with the thinnest resume.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/02/2008 4:54:56 PM

      Comment: Again wuth the stealing the nomination, being given the nomination and now Allowing Obama to win.

      NEWS FLASH Senator Obama is winning because MCSILLY IS GERIATRIC IDIOT

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/03/2008 9:00:12 PM

        Comment: sjpersonal, please be nice. I hope to be that old some day and most people would say that I am already old and I'm still way behing McCain in years. If we don't reach McCains age it is because we died...not a choice I would want. So some day we might both be geriatric idiots and we will be reminiscing about this campaign from our respective wheelchairs in the hallway of the old folks home....

  • Posted By: nfwriter @ 07/01/2008 10:32:45 PM

    Comment: Perhaps one day Cindy McCain will be the next first lady in some alternate universe. Her hub is the most awkward candidate in history next to his mentor, George W. Bush, and we've all ready seen how THAT ONE worked out. And mini-Rove, your Democratic 'recipe' is not so entertaining as it is pathetic, somewhat below the sheepish truth that first lady hopeful Cindy McCain swipes all her recipes from Martha Stewart. Now THAT's funny! Oh, you Repuglicans. You're just a laugh a minute.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/01/2008 10:48:29 AM

    Comment: KOOL-AID??????..From the kitchen of the obama sheeple!! take one heaping spoonful of an inexperienced elitist white male seeking self validation through exploitation of his african-american genetics. Combine two parts black liberation theology clerics spewing intolerance! With two parts of unrepentant intellectuals committed to the destruction of America. Stir in one cup of militant black wife harboring the overwhelming desire to stick it to whitey and one spoonful of typical white person grandmother mix well. Pour a gallon of anti-patriotism into tall glasses and sprinkle with naïve foreign policy ideations. Serve on a platter of meaningless oratorical hyperbole with a generous dollop of wealth re-distribution. Sprinkle liberally with zest of white guilt flip it and flop it till it tastes right. Serve large portions to the undiscerning and spellbound masses convinced that the Second Coming is upon America and now you have a complete recipe for disaster!

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/02/2008 4:55:53 PM

      Comment: So still absolutely nothing of substance to offer the human race. So so very sad!

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/01/2008 10:42:30 AM

    Comment: KOOL-AID??????..From the kitchen of the obama sheeple!! take one heaping spoonful of an inexperienced elitist white male seeking self validation through exploitation of his african-american genetics. Combine two parts black liberation theology clerics spewing intolerance! With two parts of unrepentant intellectuals committed to the destruction of America. Stir in one cup of militant black wife harboring the overwhelming desire to stick it to whitey and one spoonful of typical white person grandmother mix well. Pour a gallon of anti-patriotism into tall glasses and sprinkle with naïve foreign policy ideations. Serve on a platter of meaningless oratorical hyperbole with a generous dollop of wealth re-distribution. Sprinkle liberally with zest of white guilt flip it and flop it till it tastes right. Serve large portions to the undiscerning and spellbound masses convinced that the Second Coming is upon America and now you have a complete recipe for disaster!

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/30/2008 7:29:56 AM

    Comment:

    Jimbo You didn't read my post " local, state and federal governments spent more than $10 billion" and you didn't do your home work nor did you check out my references or Adam Smith.

    Extend your Fiscal PAIN with your vote for McCain


    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 07/03/2008 11:08:19 PM

      Comment: So in other words, you cannot provide a single example of the US government providing corporate 'welfare'. You can only provide examples of state and local governments providing publicly funded stadiums to NFL team owners...just to clarify what you are going on about

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/01/2008 10:46:41 AM

      Comment: YOU ARE A PAID LIBERAL MEDIA BLOGGER AND YOU WILL BE EXPOSED !! STOP SPEWING YOUR LIES !!!

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/02/2008 4:58:34 PM

        Comment: WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? HAVE YOU CHECKED YOUR MEDS AS SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY OFF WITH YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU?


        By the way Sen. Obama may be well funded but I really doubt that he is funded enough to pay everyone to pretend to support him. Does your family visit you in your special place often, I hope so. So why don't you just go sit by the windows and watch the pretty flowers grow. OK

  • Posted By: Floridave @ 06/29/2008 10:26:55 PM

    Comment: I'm back with good news.... while I was gone I talked about 4 new people into voting for McCain. Don't thank me, I did it for America.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/29/2008 2:20:26 PM

    Comment:

    Jimbo this is only the tip of the Iceberg there is more much but you will have to do your own home work. But I will at least give you the following. Mind you I have nothing against anyone patronizing pro sports, This is just one blatant example of Corporate Socialism or Welfare or what ever you wish to call it. And If I am not mistaken Corporate Welfare was a Reagan term he used quite often.

    Subsidies for sports teams have grown steadily. From 1995 through 2006, local, state and federal governments spent more than $10 billion subsidizing more than 50 new Major League stadiums and countless minor league facilities. "This trend is only accelerating: Government spending on sports facilities now soaks up more than $2 billion a year," Neil deMause, author of the book and Field of Schemes told congress in 2007.

    According to Forbes magizine, the Big Four sports had revenues in 2006 on $16.7 billion. They counted a tenth of that, slightly less than $1.7 billion, as operating income, which is one way to measure profits.

    Putting together the estimates by Forbes and deMause shows that the entire operating profit of commercial sports industry comes from the taxpayer. The subsidies, in fact, cover a third of a billion dollars in operating losses before this boost from the tax payers pushes the industry in to the black.

    Also, the figures from Forbes cover only operating profits and losses, not all cost. No business or industry can continue in the long run without covering all of its cost. Not taken in to account by Forbes were interest paid on borrowed money, taxes and paying down debt. Add in those cost and the actual LOSSES for the commercial sports industry, absent tax payer (Government) subsidies, (Corporate Socialism, Welfare what ever you chose to call it) are far greater thatn $340 million a year.

    Subsidy economics tend to drive prices up, not down, as recipients chase subsidies more than customers. Adam Smith figured this out in 1776. he examined the subsidies in his day for commercial fishing. Inhis era the word bounty referred to gifts the government bestowed on the owners of herring ships. He concluded that to collect subsidies, people will appear to engage in commercial activity. Smith wrote:

    The bounty [subsidy] to the white-herring fishery is a tonnage bounty: and is proportioned to the burden [size] of the ship, not to her diligence or success in the fishery: and it has, I am afraid, been too common for vessels to fit out for sole purpose of catching, not the fish, but the bounty.


    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 06/29/2008 9:09:00 PM

      Comment: Those are local governments that provide stadiums, etc. to entice local sports teams to either stay or relocate to their city. You many want to re-read my post; I specifically said examples where the US government is giving corporations something for nothing.

      Btw, I agree with your example, I think it is ridiculous when cities build stadiums for the NFL, etc.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 06/29/2008 1:16:37 PM

    Comment: McCain is a good guy however he promotes misguided policies. THE BIGGEST BEING THE IRAQ WAR.

    JUST LIKE HILLARY HE JUST DOESN"T GET IT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT OUT OF IRAQ. THE IRAQ WAR IS WHAT GAVE OBAMA A VICTORY IN IOWA. McCAIN is going to get SMOKED in this election unless he changes his stance on IRAQ.

    "NO AMERICAN LIFE IS WORTH IRAQI FREEDOM.

    ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS NOT A REAL AMERICAN" eddiewhere 2008

    There is this argument out there that I hear our troops repeating over and over agian. WE CANNOT LEAVE UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE WE CANNOT LET OUR BROTHERS DIE IN VAIN.

    NOW THAT IS REAL BUL****. THAT STATEMENT IS GOVERNMENT IDEOLOGY AND NOT MILITARY IDEOLOGY.

    COLIN POWELL SAID IT BEST. DEFINE YOUR MISSION CLEARLY SET YOUR OBJECTIVES AND USE OVERWHELMING FORCE AKA SHOCK AND AWE to accomplish your mission.

    WE HAVE NO CLEAR AGENDA and NO CLEAR OBJECTIVES. WE ARE NOT SURE. SO HOW ON EARTH CAN WE JUSTIFY THE LOSS OF MORE AMERICAN LIVES. AS LONG AS WE STAY IN IRAQ YOUNG AMERICANS WILL CONTINUE TO DIE IN VAIN. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE MADE OUR POINT VERY CLEAR. WE ARE SICK OF IRAQ AND WE ARE SICK OF OUR DEPENDENCY ON MIDDLE EASTERN OIL.

    OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

    THE LAST FALLACY I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THAT THE SURGE IS WORKING.

    THIS ARGUMENT IS SO CRAZY THAT IT IS HARD TO EXPLAIN.

    SURGE means temporary. OUR TROOPS PRESENCE IN THAT COUNTRY OF IRAQ IS THE MAIN REASON FUNDAMENTALIST HAVE FOR ATTACKING US.

    WE NEED A PRESIDENT THAT WILL DO WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA NOT WHAT IS BEST FOR IRAQ.

    THE LATEST FALLACY IS THAT WE SHOULD STAY UNTIL WE WIN. WE HAVE ALREADY LOST.ESPECIALLY THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER and those poor AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO LOST THEIR LIFE FOR NO LEGITIMATE REASON. THE BLIND JUST CANNOT SEE THAT.

    THERE IS ONE CLEAR WINNER IN THIS WAR, HALLIBURTON AND OTHER PRIVATE CONTRACT FIRMS WHO FUNNELED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WITH THE HELP OF DICK CHENEY, FROM THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER.

    LAUTENBERG REPORT CHECK IT OUT.

    YES OBAMA DOES HAVE BIG LEAD AND IT WILL GET EVEN BIGGER BECAUSE McCAIN WANTS TO STAY IN IRAQ.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/29/2008 10:21:37 AM

    Comment:


    You are right corporations should not be complicit in the act and or practice of Socialism . if that is what you are getting at "jimbo" but it is exactly what they are neck deep in. That is, government hand outs, kick backs, tax incentivesand or tax cuts, special favors,etc,... It may have some relevance to fair and just business practices if it worked for all of the American tax payers and or citizens but it is a pendulum that swings in favor of the corporations because our laws are so heavily waited in the direction of Corporate America. It is so in your face, arrogant, self centered, a business as usual practice and a catch phrase "just live with it" Which has proven to be for last 30 + years that corporations take full advantage of the Socialist or as some would label it as "WELFARE" hand outs that our government allows them that it is slowly turning our nation into servers and eliminating the producers.

    Within the next generation we will be a nation of buyers, servers and non producers. We are almost there now. Is it any reason why The American workers morale is at an all time low? When our government keeps handing out to corporations and taking away from the very people (The America Worker) the very back bone of our nation. THE AMERICAN DREAM for the common man/women is a fleeting memory. With our country being in bed with corporations they have destroyed our great society of what was once a nation of proud freeholders to a nation of beholders.

    A Corporate Society = Corporate Socialism
    All of the safety nets for Corporate America and nothing for its Citizens. We as America's Working Class wallow in what is left, "Corporate Droppings" and for me and 100s of millions of Americans it smells bad, extremely bad!

    Extend the Corporal Pain with your vote for McCain



    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 06/29/2008 11:52:09 AM

      Comment: Huh? Corporations pay nearly 50% of their profits in taxes, then declare a dividend which is taxed again. This is in addition to all of the payroll taxes on the people they employ, including the "2nd half" of social security taxes that most people don't even realize is being paid. And property taxes on all property, plants, and real estate that they own.

      Can you give me even 2 examples of so-called "corporate welfare"? Two real life examples where the US government is giving corporations something for nothing. Can you even provide one?

      Corporate welfare is a term made up by left-wing news media types, who don't understand the first thing about tax policy or tax law.

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