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  • Posted By: lenteach @ 10/06/2008 7:17:59 PM

    McCain is not a war hero but a war criminal who participated in an illegal,immoral war.He bombed a nation that WAS NO THREAT TO aMERICA AND LBJ SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED, AT THE VERY LEAST. McCAIN BOMBED CIVILIANS WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE AMERICA WAS. BUT VIETNAMESE HAD BEEN FIGHTING FOR INDEPENDENCE A LONG TIME AND AMERICAN IMPERIALISM WAS THEIR LAST ENEMY.

    McCAIN DID EXACTLY THE SAME THING FOR CHAS. kEATING HE OBJECTED TO
    WHEN THE BOEING CFO AND AIR FORCE OFFICER WERE CORRUPTING EACH OTHER OVER THE REFUELING CONTRACTS. McCAIN SHOULD HAVE RESIGNED AND STOOD TRIAL FOR CORRUPTION.THIS IS EXACTLY WHY AMERICA IS IMPLODING-
    CORRUPT WARS, FROM VIETNAM TO IRAQ, TO CORRUPT SENATORS WHO CAN SELL OUT AND GET AWAY WITH IT AND THEN RUN FOR PRESIDENT SO HE CAN START ANOTHER CORRUPT,ILLEGAL WAR.

  • Posted By: katharine9 @ 08/20/2008 11:28:41 PM

    You think McCain works for the American people? He works for his lobbyist cronies, as he did in the Keating 5 and ever since. He has no clue how ordinary people live since he has 5 multimillion dollar homes and is married to a multimillionaire. He hasnasty sense of humor and a mean streak. A profile of a bully. McCain is a war hero because he was tortured, but he does not have the character to be President

  • Posted By: ArvinS @ 06/28/2008 3:50:01 PM

    Come tell the truth, McCain was not against Boeing winning the contract. What he was against was the idea of leasing the tankers and then down the road buying them. If you are going to tell a story then at least tell the whole story and not just what slants it the way you want it to look!!

  • Posted By: ArvinS @ 06/28/2008 3:47:52 PM

    Why is it you don't tell the whole story. What McCain objected to was the USAF leasing the tankers and therefore spending more money in the acquisition of them. I don't remember him objecting to Boeing selling the tankers to the USAF. It was about how it was done. So, we see that there is difference from the complete story and telling only what you want to tell. Let's redo the story and tell it properly!

  • Posted By: jlmeal @ 06/27/2008 11:27:43 PM

    JOHN McCAIN???S 3R ECONOMIC PLAN 2008
    Abbreviated version

    Progressive Republican Candidate John McCain comes through for America with his 3R economic plan. In the persona of Theodore Roosevelt, McCain???s plan just makes sense.

    1. RETHINK: America must see globally on what America is capable of in our current state of technology, engineering and meet the demands that face the world.

    Private Sector framework is in place and current laws allow the 3R to happen. The Progressive attitude of John McCain to get things done by crossing party lines will resurrect America.

    2. REFORM: The American people must demand higher quality products and less restricted trade routes for Made in USA components. We will lead the way of MFG again!

    The USA will reform its dead manufacturing base

    3. REINVENT: America and Americans must reinvent themselves to reach and maintain these standards and by sheer American ingenuity, control the world???s marketplace in the competitive manner, as the USA has always been proud to be #1.

    NUTS AND BOLTS of the plan are simple.

    Billions of savings equates to millions of lost tax revenue from energy companies. The US needs a separate tax revenue source before we can move away from fossil fuels.

    McCain 3R solution.

    McCain???s 3R is about technical, closely monitored and rapid hands on training from pros to create new pros. Thousands of currently-job-displaced ???once leaders in the manufacturing arena??? will be asked to train and play instructor rolls in the 3R plan. Paid, of course, as these new leaders will help create a whole new style of prosperous America. A massive restructure providing thousands New American MFG means millions of new jobs for infrastructure alone.

    New jobs is the mainstay for Creating a new guard for Social Security.

    This is the new place for financial speculators to invest!

    McCain???s Progressive nature embodies Theodore Roosevelt more than any US presidential candidate in history since the original Rough Rider blazed the greatest era of growth in America.

    We need John McCain to lead our nation with the same type of change.

  • Posted By: jmin08 @ 06/27/2008 10:42:12 AM

    Once again Newsweek shows its liberal bias. I actually used to enjoy the magazine but cancelled my subscription when it bacame nothing more than a left wing loudspeeker--and a lousy one at that!

  • Posted By: dyast1 @ 06/27/2008 9:28:02 AM

    As you attempt to discern between the presidential candidates ???Old Guard??? and ???Fantasy Island??? and their various employed strategy teams you lose track of where we really are in this country. My choice for President is now based on who can do the least damage to this country over the next four years? Reflecting on our younger generation who shall bear the brunt of what we leave them as my generation steps down from power and leaves them a world that has stage three cancer.
    Our government strongly believes that the American population cannot think for themselves, the political view is telling them anything and they will forget within six months. Example is our Social Security system. Started going down hill once Congress started playing with the funds, next step was they withdrew from SS and created their own fund. They knew what was going too happened once corruption ran amuck within our government. Now SS is going broke, and the American people will have to make do with what they can save during their working careers.
    This country is still great and I wish the politicians would stop trying to ruin it and start to deal with our problems without thinking of what is in it for them every time. When one of us uneducated inexperienced old tired person asks a question, please answer it with intelligence or at the very least research the question and get back to us with facts and bullet format recommendations as to the answer. Time to end my rambling and get back to work

  • Posted By: dyast1 @ 06/27/2008 9:27:22 AM

    As you attempt to discern between the presidential candidates ???Old Guard??? and ???Fantasy Island??? and their various employed strategy teams you lose track of where we really are in this country. My choice for President is now based on who can do the least damage to this country over the next four years? Reflecting on our younger generation who shall bear the brunt of what we leave them as my generation steps down from power and leaves them a world that has stage three cancer.
    Our government strongly believes that the American population cannot think for themselves, the political view is telling them anything and they will forget within six months. Example is our Social Security system. Started going down hill once Congress started playing with the funds, next step was they withdrew from SS and created their own fund. They knew what was going too happened once corruption ran amuck within our government. Now SS is going broke, and the American people will have to make do with what they can save during their working careers.
    This country is still great and I wish the politicians would stop trying to ruin it and start to deal with our problems without thinking of what is in it for them every time. When one of us uneducated inexperienced old tired person asks a question, please answer it with intelligence or at the very least research the question and get back to us with facts and bullet format recommendations as to the answer. Time to end my rambling and get back to work

  • Posted By: abbeylincoln @ 06/26/2008 10:58:30 AM

    God help Americans, but this is exactly the kind of policies to expect from a McCain government - if elected. This reveals another instance of economically-daft politicians shooting the American public in the foot with ill-advised positions. I think the Newsweek organisation owes it to its esteemed readers in the US and internationally to vividly and urgently publish news of this magnitude.

  • Posted By: bissron @ 06/24/2008 4:37:16 PM

    Wait. You're saying McCain lobbied for sending US dollars overseas to a company hired by his closest associates.
    Why isn't this headline news?

    • Posted By: JustAJoe @ 06/26/2008 4:45:27 AM

      Because it happens every day. Remember the definition of a honest politician is one that stays bought.
      If you are looking for uncovered stories, how about the candidate for "change", Obama, is the product of the second generation mayor-for-life Chicago Daley political machine. One of the few and most corrupt left.

  • Posted By: rif2422 @ 06/26/2008 1:50:44 AM

    My only gripe is that Airbus is heavily subsidized by the E.U. a total unfair advantage, we shouldn't give them a penny until Airbus stands on its own feet without subsidation by the E.U. We're just keeping an unprofitable venture in the air and making them stronger, that's the reason they're able to save money over the U.S. company.

  • Posted By: rif2422 @ 06/26/2008 1:45:48 AM

    I worked as a sub contractor on this project, I was told the problem was that Boeing didn't meet the requirements as well as Airbus did, however the requirements by the Air Force were vague at best.

  • Posted By: brucebessell @ 06/25/2008 11:44:36 AM

    I am a certificated Aircraft Mechanic, and have worked on both Boeing and Airbus. My experience is that Airbus builds "Throw Aways," while Boeing is still building quality aircraft. Airbus has no tolerance for corrosion, having milled away all metal in excess of the engineered minimum. This minimum standard requires replacement of any structural part that corrodes even the slightest, and corrosion is inevitable. And, the wait of several months for repair parts to come from France would sabotage our supply system and therefore our war efforts. Boeing still uses enough metal that corrosion can be removed, surfaces re-treated and the part is remains serviceable.

  • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 06/25/2008 8:35:53 AM

    Sounds like more of the same gov. we been dealing with the last 8 years. Why award this contract to Europeans? Mc Cain is doing wat the REPUKES do best, outsource jobs. Wat a shame for Boeing.

  • Posted By: mawrm @ 06/22/2008 6:03:21 PM

    I'm about as strong an Obama supporter and a Boeing fanatic as any but I'm also an areospace engineer and I must say that McCain's objections to the Boeing lease deal for the tanker replacement were technically valid. I had no knowledge about EADS lobbyists on his staff however but this should not subtract from the core reason why the Boeing bid was rightly rejected in the first place. The fact is the Boeing lease deal of B767s would have been a supreme waste of money and Boeing arrogantly inflated their bid believing they would win automatically since they're the only US widebody aircraft maker left. The B767 is at the end of production, which means the AF would in the long term have to pay more to maintain a gradually obsolete airframe - exactly the problem they're faced with now on the B-707 derived airframe - when was the last time you flew a Boeing 707 domestically? The whole years-long dragged out of the process has now allowed Boeing to catch up and then now claim that they could have offered the 777 instead had they known better. That's a bunch of bunk because the reasonings Boeing publicly used against Airbus were they claimed the Airbus offering was too large, required more apron than the B767 and that they were ahead on R&D since the Japanese and Italians had put in orders for B767-based tankers. Fact is, Boeing could not have offered the B777 likely in the form of the B777-200F series that is convertible for the tanker mission earlier as it is only NOW being delivered to commercial customers. Then there's the R&D to make the tanker modifications.
    While I'm all for America first, I'm not for the American taxpayer being reamed by greedy aerospace companies (yes, I work in the industry and know the corporate attitude all too well). Consider also that Europeans make substantial buys of US aerospace hardware and if they adopt our attitude, we would be hurting for billions more and more jobs than what they stand to lose in not getting this tanker deal.

    • Posted By: flyer @ 06/25/2008 12:41:12 AM

      Well, it's nice to see not all Democrats are Dumbocrats. As a fellow aerospace engineer, I was shocked when the A330 was selected since the 767 seemed a much closer match to what the Air Force supposedly wanted. Nevertheless, trying to contort the decision into a some kind of twisted indictment of McCain is so far a stretch it would tie a yoga instructor in knots. You can make a valid argument for either plane, and the Air Force's chief failure was failing to do so competently.

      At least mawrm gives me hope that not all Obama supporters are rabid lunatics--just most of them.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/22/2008 2:40:08 AM

    WillNotVote, I just love it when you set yourself up to be schooled. You give a web address for the Obama's page on the Senate.gov website. Each Senator sets up their own pages there. You have directed the reader to Obama's page where he prints, for the world to see, his voting record on every bill that comes before the Senate. Here is that address:

    http://obama.senate.gov/votes/index.cfm?start=1

    You sent the reader to this page because it shows that Obama did not vote on many of the recent bills, and you want to make it look like Obama is asleep on the job. It must be mentioned, however, that Clinton, McCain and Obama have all missed many votes during the campaign season. However, if the reader will take the trouble to page through Obama's voting record, they will see that Obama has been present for all of the important votes. Obama has been present and voted on 62 of the 154 bills before Congress in the current session beginning January 2008. Clinton has voted on 56 of these 154 bills. And McCain, who had already won the primary and didn't have to start campaigning against Obama until three weeks ago, McCain voted on only 33 of 154 bills.

    As I have exposed in one of my earlier blogs, McCain missed more than half of his votes, even before he started running for President. In the First Session of the 110th Congress (2007), McCain missed a whopping 56% of his votes. McCain doesn't want you to know this, so when you go to his Senate web page, there is no tab to click to see his voting record (http://mccain.senate.gov). An American who wants to know how McCain votes has to look it up on the Library of Congress website (not user friendly) or go to the Washington Post website:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/votes/

    While you are there, pay special attention to McCain's votes on March 13 and 14, 2008. On those days we know he was present, because he voted on 22 bills. But he refused to vote on 22 other bills. He failed to vote on bills concerning border security, alien removal and English in the workplace, even though he has set himself up as the candidate who wants immigration reform favorable to Hispanics. He also failed to vote on the bills regarding efficient energy production, even though he claims to be in favor of this. He must not be very much in favor of efficient energy and immigration reform since her refused to vote even though he was present. As for Obama and Clinton, they were both present those days, and they both voted on all 44 bills.

    McCain knows that public perception is all that matters, so he gives a news conference and says he supports certain issues, even though he refuses to vote in favor of them. He knows that most Americans never take the time to look up his voting record, and he makes sure that his Senate web page doesn't include this information.

    I find it ironic that your blogger name is "WillNotVote." Did you get that name from John McCain?

    • Posted By: AmeriKhan Lobo @ 06/24/2008 1:12:07 AM

      BRAAA VO!

      You need to post this on all the other threads where McSame supporters try to belittle Obama's voting record. I commend your research skills.

      Down with Flip Flop McSame!

  • Posted By: flyer @ 06/21/2008 10:04:08 PM

    This article is so dishonest it's a joke! The original deal that McCain attacked was a complete ripoff, and I say this as a member of the aerospace industry who would have benefited by it. By even the most generous estimates, the Air Force agreed to pay Boeing at least twice what the tankers would have actually cost. McCain was bold enough to question the obvious cost discrepancy, and subsequent investigation discovered the Air Force official who made the deal had also arranged jobs for herself and her son at Boeing. Can you say illegal conflict of interest?! Both she and her Boeing counterpart were convicted of conspiring to award the contract to Boeing and SENT TO PRISON! Now Newsweek has the audacity to criticize McCain?! Are you so blinded by your love of Obama that you'd rather have government officials accepting bribes in exchange for wasting taxpayer money? Indeed!

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/22/2008 5:11:47 PM

      The flaw in your logic is the assumption that the issues are mutually exclusive - the fact that corruption was found in the Boeing deal means there could not possibly ever be corruption in the Airbus deal.

      Did it every occur to you that in his efforts to help his Airbus buddies McCain's inquiries uncovered the Boeing corrpution? Great that its was found, but that doesn't negate his original motivation.

      Considering Airbus receives significant EU subsidies - I am not even sure they would be in business without them - I think it is absolutely appropriate to take those into account. It is naive to think that military spending is just about the best value. It's also about American jobs.

      It was highly inappropriate for McCain to make the request that he did of the Pentagon. And if McCain is as innocent as all you Republican's claim - then why not reveal the names of those "third party sources". After all, they deserve credit for saving tax payer money too. Maybe that's because you'll find out those third parties are not as altruistic as you would like to think.

      You Republican's need to take the blinders off and start thinking for yourselves.

      • Posted By: flyer @ 06/24/2008 12:31:51 AM

        The flaw in your logic is the assumption that McCain is somehow at the heart of the problem when the problem is clearly the Air Force's acquisition process. This is at least the third major Air Force contract in the last 6 years to have protests upheld by the GAO. The first was the original Boeing 767 tanker lease that sent 2 people to prison, then the combat search and rescue helicopter awarded to Boeing but challenged by Lockheed and Sikorsky, and now the Northrop/EADS tanker.

        The common theme is the Air Force's inability to clearly define requirements to the contractors and evaluate all bids by the same criteria.

        John McCain has been one of the few voices in DC questioning these deals, holding the Air Force accountable for its bad decisions, and urging reforms.

        Compare this to the bahavior of the infamous Sen. Patty Murray who was dancing in the streets after the corrupt tanker deal of 2002, celebrating the great "bargain" her campaign donors at Boeing had won...

        And a note to Newsweek--your site works terribly in Firefox. You might want to look into it!

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/22/2008 2:01:36 PM

      Clap clap clap. I know its hard to hear over the Obamabots but flyer I just wanted to thank you for stating the truth.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/22/2008 5:12:40 PM

        That must be the sound of one hand clapping, because the other is obviously covering your eyes.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 06/21/2008 10:36:22 PM

      The sad answer is yes, Newsweak is so blinded by its love of Obama that it will do anything, say anything, make up anything...and I'm sure it will only get worse between now and November.

  • Posted By: jdtseattlewa @ 06/23/2008 4:37:04 PM

    Registered lobbyists for EAD's...where was the press on this one? I would've thought that would have been picked up at the time,must have been public knowledge. By the time Congress and the executive wakes up this country will have lost all means of defending it's interests abroad.

  • Posted By: Houlbelat @ 06/23/2008 12:22:47 PM

    This proves McCain is a clean man and wants to ensure value for the tax payer's money.

    • Posted By: Rolo1 @ 06/23/2008 3:29:49 PM

      YEa.Right I'am sure thats what this is all about !

  • Posted By: wyomingite @ 06/23/2008 2:10:15 PM


    What would the anonimous emails look like if McCain were a Democrat?: "Dem candidate stymies American (Boeing) bid while lobbying for French aircraft company." But, he is a Republican, and this story will not show up on television or through the crafty Republican anonimous email group. I guess we will just pass this off as some "pinko liberal news magazine's" biased reporting.

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