Doesn't matter which candidate you are pro or con for - What a ridiculous article! Newsweek, you insult our intelligence.
But I guess your stance would probably be that why should intelligence matter?
Doesn't matter which candidate you are pro or con for - What a ridiculous article! Newsweek, you insult our intelligence.
But I guess your stance would probably be that why should intelligence matter?
I'm not for either McCain or Obama, but I found this article to be a rediculous attempt to further an all too obvious political agenda. It's like they have to search every possible angle to build a case for Obama.
Can Obama just tell me one thing he intends to do to actually strengthen the country? The only thing I have heard so far is that he wants to add more government programs to coddle the American people. Most people will only work as hard as they have to in order to get by. If you take away the possibility for failure, you get weak and unmotivated people. It's happened in every socialistic society, and it will happen here too if we continue down the path that Obama wants to lead us.
If you scroll down further you will see MY reasons for voting for Obama instead of McCain. They are ALL based on ISSUES not the crap, non-issues, B/S that people who weren't going to vote for him in the first place, like to spew.
I can toss out a few names but I'm sure you already know who they are. They come on here all the time spewing crap from fringe websites and offer no real proof that what they are saying is the truth.
If I hated McCain that much, I would start my own website called www.ihatemccain.com and see how many hits I'd get on it. I'd spread non-truths about him and have absolutely nothing to back it up with, except for say, FAKE pictures that I doctored up to make it look like he and I were the best of buds and that we had coffee together at the local Star Bucks. *ROFL*
you're not for either but you're crying socialist? How much is the GOP paying you?
I can't believe you can look back in post at ZZ's comments, actually read the goading, baseless remarks, and the unfounded spouts of misinformation, and say, that I am the one coming off as course. That may be the most ridiculous argument I have heard all day.
And if you mean what you say, that you don't take statements out of context, then show me where I said that Dems started the Iraq war for starters, and we can go from there.
Believe it - dude, your are so not grounded in reality. Honestly.
Zig.
Idiot here wrote "spouts" and want s to be takien seriously. Sheesh.
See that is just another goad. Just because you have somebody backing you up, it doen't make you right--even bullies have a lacky.
Glad to see your admission of 1441, the AUTHORIZED use of military force without compliance. Now no one here has to go to that sight, you said it for me. Thanks.
In regards to 1483--you really need to learn how to interpret information better. By occupying it refers to the countries in control of maintaining order while there is no semblence of goverment within that country. The US happened to be that force, acting with other allies to keep Iraq from comlete implosion over different religious factions withing its borders. LOL man, you really are an imbecil.
That you even attempted to contsrue that as America occupying it, perhaps as the Germans occupied France is just hilarious. Try again, You are very entertaining
You are such a Bush mouthpiece. Let me make sure I understand your "argument"
According to you, 1441 was all the justification we needed. So why did we prepare another resolution that authorized the use of force? Why would Bush say we would take it to the council for vote?
It's just more Republican revisionist history. When Bush realized that the majority of the Security Council - not one or two members, but the majoirity - would oppose the resolution, he suddenly decided we didn't need it.
And now thousands of young men and women are giving up their lives for a lie.
Obama will win because he is the "establishment candidate". Now that Hillary is out of the picture so is universal health care and the doctors, lawyers, insurance companies and pharmaceutical pushers can sit back and watch the profits continue to roll in. Obama will take their money and talk about change but the most important thing American's might have got from this election "universal health care" came off the table before the election started. We are not leaviing Iraq. What will that do the newly formed Democracies in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan and Nepal? So what is the first thing Obama will change when he gets into the white house? Probably his mind about reforming the system that made him the most man in the world.
I bet he won't even have the stones to paint the white house black.
Idiot!
"NO AMERICAN LIFE IS WORTH IRAQI FREEDOM.
ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS NOT A REAL AMERICAN eddiewhere 2008."
We need to get out of Iraq and transfer responsibility and management of that country to the IRAQ's themselves. THEY SHOULD be backed by a multinational force led by Middle Eastern countries until they are able to fight extremist on their own.
Our unilateral approach in the MIDDLE EAST has to come to an end. ECONOMICALLY, IRAQ IS KILLING the average tax payer and making a few private contractors and oil firms rich.
We need Oil. WE NEED OIL. Therefore, getting rid of the Iranian regime is at the top of our agenda.
The majority in Iran want change but not under and American led invasion. It has to be done from within. We lost the support of moderate Arabs and Muslims over the last six years. Hopefully, PRESIDENT OBAMA can empower this group and encourage them to meet with their counterparts.
Inotherwords there should be an alliance between all moderates in the Middle East, JEWS, ARABs, MUSLIMS, ect... These forces must be self motivated by a common cause, Peace. IF this group can be strengthened they themselves will defeat or at least contain the force of extremism.
WE must strengthen the forces behind peace and weaken those against peace on both sides.
THE UNITED STATES CANNOT SOLVE THE CONFLICT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. WE CAN ONLY STRENGHTEN AND SUPPORT THE PEOPLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST TO SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS.
IN THE SHORT RUN WE NEED MIDDLE EASTERN OIL. THIS COMPLICATES OUR ROLE OVER THERE.
WE Should have had an ENERGY SUMMIT TEN YEARS AGO. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A TWENTY YEAR PLAN to RID OURSELVES of OIL DEPENDENCY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. TWENTY YEARS WILL GO BY LIKE NOTHING. WE HAVE TO START NOW.
THE most dangerous threats are the ones you do not see coming. LIKE CHINA, RUSSIA, EASTERN EUROPEAN organized crime. Monitoring these entities will be our great challenge.
ARE WE READY FOR CYBER WAR. I DON't THINK SO.
AMEN!!! :-)
Obama is neither experianced or qualified. He has flip flopped more than any other, has skewed the Bible, wants to increase taxes in an unstable economy, does not know anything about foreign policy, has not been to Iraq in many years, will put this country at risk, and will not win simply because Ameica does NOT need a manipulative liar again.
What is your proof that one, he is unqualified? Where is your proof he flipped-flopped more thatn any other, how did he skew the bible, throw tax increases out there immdiately, will not be surrounded by excellent foreign advisors, did Bush have foreign policy experience, how often does a person have to report to Iraq knowing what the conditions are on the ground?
Don't get me started, last night I saw some outright screwball things posted....your part of that list....when you answer my questions, then I will engage in conversation, otherwise...NEXT!
How do we know you're not a manipulative liar?
Nice accusations, please provide examples, not baseless slander.
To Republicans....you rejected nominating this experienced war hero in 2000,you said not worth the candidate and instead gave us the worst President, average governor with no foreign policy experience, who accomplished nothing politically prior to 2000 in George W Bush.
Now John McCain manifesto just like G.W.Bush 3rd term. So I don't think Republicans should lecture anyone on who is a worthy candidate. You have failed in that category to decide who the next president.
Al Qaida is probably just as strong or stronger in Afghanistan and Pakistan so why do we continue to allocate a huge portion of our resources (140,000 troops and Billions of $ per month) to a country that needs to start learning to function on its own? Isn't it time to reassess what's in our best interest? How long do we stay and do we actually enforce previous benchmarks that were meant to accelerate progress?
If any of you're right wing nuts and bolts would actually read stuff for yourself rather than regurgitate whatever Fox News or Rush tell you then you'd see that Obama's Iraq War plan calls for us to stay in smaller numbers to fight AQ in Iraq but to stop fighting the Iraqis.
Get your heads out of the sand for once 'republicans' or better yet go anf buy another yellow ribbon magnet or flag to put on your car to show how patriotic you are because buying those trinkets really help our troops over there, if you cared you'd either volunteer for service, have your kids volunteer for service or you'd actually do something to help our troops. By the way, those yellow ribbons and flags are made in China, how's that to prove your patriotism?
There was no Al Qaida in Iraq before Bush/McCain invaded.According to our country's intelligence reports Under Bush/McCain Al Qaida has only grown stronger.George McCellan said everything in his book.Bush/McCain drove the US into a ditch in Iraq and made us all where we are still carry on .Before Bush/McCain invaded Iraq oil was $27/barrel.
To the benefit of Putin and Haliburton now it is $130.Bush/McCain were distracted planning the war in Iraq and allowed bin Laden to escape in Tora Bora,McCain says he won't strike bin Laden if the Pakistanis government tells him so,Barack going to hit AlQaida with or without pakistanis approval,as he knows NOBODY going to revenge the death of thousand Americans that perished in WTC after this 6 years,he's going after Bin Laden with or without Republican helps to win this presidential race.
Don't say that too loud, you will scare people with a well thought out argument and logical reasoning....very nice posting....Mark
Obama is a Marxist Jew hater and a foreign policy disaster. He set for 20 years in the pews and listened to reverend Wright and Farrakhan, is a friend of terrorists and wants to help Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas destroy the West and Israel.
Obama is a dangerous and risky combination:
He combines the worst of Presidents Bush AND Carter.
Remember Bush slogan "I am a Uniter not a Divider", a candidate full of hot air, without any history who promises a lot, and once elected delivers a disaster. At least through his actions has frightened the Arab extremists and prevented a repeat of 9/11.
Carter is the worst president that the USA ever had. He brought us an inflation rate of 20% due to his dumb economic policies, he created Iran as we know it today, controlled by the ayatollahs, he made sure that there is no peace between Israel and the Palestinians, he reduced our Military power to zero (we needed President Reagan to reverse Carters stupid icuts and naction), see who are Obama foreign policy advisors most of them are the same failures who served during the Carter administration...
Obama brings a combination of the two; he is full of hot air, chants like a Parrot "Change" and is expected to be a total disaster.
Obama was a disaster in every place he served as a community organizer, look at his neighborhoods in Chicago, according to his own writings: The Crime rate went up, the murder rate went up, drug use went up, the out of wedlock birthrate went up, the abortion rate went up, prostitution went up, educational achievements went down, welfare rate went up, this is what he wants to deliver to the rest of the USA.
Vote for McCain if you want your children to sleep safely at night.
your back to be called out on your bs....omg, you must love getting slammed
A lot of people think experience is what matter most in the ability to govern well as the president. I personally don't think eexperience is as important as wisdom, vision, good judgment and understanding, Experience by itself alone could only be useful for writing history, and that is if the memory of the one with the experience is good enough to give an accurate account. Experience can be valuable only if it is properly employed to make the right decision or right judgment. Unfortunately, not many people can make the right decision with their experience even when their experience is relevant for the decision to be made. Another important point is that goood decisions are never made on the basis of any single experience but on the basis of multiple of experiences carefuly analyzed in the proper context with good judgment.`Again, it is important to note that experience does not have to be acquired directly. Thus, the experience of the footballer on the field of play or of the boxer in the boxing ring may not be as accurate or as valuable as that of the keen observers that are watching from outside, say, the coaches, for example. The military, strategic, diplomatic, foreign policy, defense, economic, and national security blunders that are directly related to the Iraq war will go a long way to show that experiece cannot be trusted at all in the absence of good judgment, good insight, good vision, good analytical skill, wisdom, and understanding. The wrong decision to go to war in Iraq was made by people, including McCain, a long-term senator and highly decorated and highly respected war hero' with lots of experience. Their bad judgment, and lack of vision has led to a decision that las led the US to the terrible disaster in Iraq with loss of over 4000 fine soldiers and a lot more wounded and maimed, along with a huge economic and financial cost, and still with no end in sight. Obama, equipped with better judgment from better (even though maybe less) experience was able to foresee the dissaster and warned against the war and opposed it at the political risk of losing a pending election thereby.
Excellent Post
I think Newsweek is reaching for the absurd in these kind of support articles. Have the Democrats purchased Newsweek? Perhaps George Soros has purchased Newsweek?
I can't help but wonder if anyone at Newsweek is previewing this stuff before it hits the Net? This is like suggesting that a minor league baseball player is more prepared to coach a major league team than a veteran Major league player.
Newsweek is the joke of 'reporting' because of their overtly transparent support for Obama; but they should at least try to make some sensible biased statements and not this silliness.
Oh great - just what this blog needs - another whiner about Newsweek bias. Here, take a ticket, you're number 10,527.
Why don't you save yourself a little bit of time and just copy and paste from all the other conspiracy nuts on here. Or better yet, just rely with "ditto" to all their posts.
That way you'll be easier to ignore.
Zig, please not the 'ditto's', they belong to me. I'm the ditto girl.
How are you doing tonight, babe?
I'm great - although I can't believe the number of Republican's peeing and moaning about this article. So I had to go over and pee and moan about the Cindy McCain article.
It wasn't much fun though - I don't understand what all the excitement is about.
I don't understand what the excitement over at Cindy's article was about either. Boring. Now if there is one woman who excites me, it's Michelle. She has lived a life of experience esp. for her age. Have you heard about the famous black and white floral dress Michelle wore on the view last week? She looked hot in it! Sold out all over the country. Darn, I didn't get one! Perhaps some shop in NYC may have one....
Actually, I was talking about ranting and raging over how much I hate Newsweek because they are so biased in favor of the Republicans and John McCain. What a puff piece.
The Republicans seem to enjoy slamming Newsweek so much I thought I would give it a try. Not very exciting. Maybe that's because our candidate is so exciting.
Zig & Pia...
You folks sound sound like a lot of fun! Regardless of your whacky politics... :-)
Anyway, yes, Newsweek is way biased and it sounds like you know it. I understand that when I choose to comment here, but I am in favor of bias that is a little more subtle. This article was pure 527 stuff.
This post is kinda late in the cycle, but had a late board meeting last night, and just now getting going. Anyway, enjoyed your comments, even if whacky.
Hey wilsan! Glad you enjoyed our 'wacky' politics and comments. Will take that as a compliment.
Thanks, junkmail6, for the difference between being experienced and frozen in the past.
You gave a great comment junkmail16 and I agree with you. Experience is best when combined with new ideas and technology. Education is a life long and ongoing process. We now have to stay abreast of the latest technological developments and software just to function. I'm 59 years old. The Internet, Blackberries, cell phones, I-Pods and the like didn't exist. So I've evolved with the machines like many others in the work force. I think its important for the older generation to share their experience with the younger so that they can build something better from it and they don't make the same mistakes. We need strong leadership in government that considers the needs of all of America's people and makes wise decisions as a world leader. Sound judgment. understanding other people and cultures, environmental consciousness and research, energy conservation etc. People need meaningful work in their lives and they also need to plan for leisure time. As a fellow veteran, I have great respect for the service of Senator McCain. However, war should be the last possible option after all avenues of diplomacy have been exhausted. Unfortunately, that is not what happened in the Bush Administration. I served in Desert Storm. Experienced generals in war is a good thing, but not when the Commander-in-Chief has hidden agendas. So we must achieve balance in our government. I support Senator Obama and I think he has enough experienced people around him to avoid past pitfalls.
Why is Newsweek so in love with Obama?
Why not?
I keep hearing about "experience". I'm over 50, and I do believe that my experience gives me a huge edge, at times, over younger colleagues. However, experience is only useful when it is relevant to the present. I'm a programmer, and I know plenty of very experienced programmers who are so stuck in the past, that they are virtually useless.
McCain strikes me that way. He is stuck in the Cold War era, which was at its height in the 60's, when I was a kid, and ended by 1990. The world is different now. No great, dark power is trying to conquer the world. Yet that is how McCain seems to view things. North Korea and Iran will *never* be the Soviet Union.
"when he had to be corrected on his statement that Iran was training Al Qaeda operatives"
Even I know that Iran is Shiite and Al Qaeda is Sunni. Iran would *never* support Al Qaeda. But McCain is trying to force everything back into the Cold War mold. Us against Them. Control versus Kaos.
Obama is right when he says we need to talk with the leaders of countries we don't like. Talking is not agreeing or capitulating. But what is does do is make the U.S. look good to every other country in the world. Building international consensus is the challenge of the 21st century. In the 20th century, we gained that because everyone else was afraid of the Soviet Union. Now, we risk becoming the world's big bully. Bush has done great harm to our country diplomatically (and I voted for him, twice). McCain seems set on continuing Bush's mistakes.
I will go as far as saying that McCain's experience is actually his weakness.
I agree Dan. Scott Olson should be fired for sheer blind idolotry on this one. Forget the fact that he has grayed the areas surrounding his point, or that he is all but salivating while he writes about Obama (whatever happened to objectionable viewpoint?) He should be banned from journalism just for making the statement that politics has become "more" partisan in the last few years.
What rock has he been hiding under?
One of the one's in your head?
Real intelligent Zig, bet you make your mama proud.
She's dead - now how do you feel?
Zig, I'm sorry you no longer have your mother.
You have two choices for president:
The first one has one of the longest lines of political experience in history. He is exceedingly popular in congress. He also volunteered to defend the our country in the US Navy.
The second one has no real political experience outside of Illinois. He is tall and lanky with big ears. He even lost a few of his first attempts at gaining political office. He is an excellent speechwriter and orator. He is a good attorney and has a successful law practice.
So which one would you choose?
This is a trick question because both were already Presidents of the United States. The first one is the 15th President of the United States, James Buchannan. He is the President who mired us in the Civil War by declaring the action illegal but doing nothing when the south decided to seceed from the Union. He is largely considered by historians as being the worst President in American history.
He was followed by the other man who became the 16th President of the United States: This man is credited with the end of slavery, the end of the Civil War, and unification of the nation. He became president at a dark time when our country was deeply divided over very polarizing issues. He had no experience in Washington prior to his Presidency. His name was Abraham Lincoln and he is widely considered by historians as one of the best Presidents in American History.
Sound familiar?
Experience of Lies and Experience of Life Two difference world.
You forgot to throw in that Buchannan was a Democrat (real surprise there) and Lincoln was a Republican/
Read carefully ...We are always AMERICAN FIRST..........others second
I did read carefully. If you are going to use history to make an argument, then you should include what Democrats have historically done vs. what Republicans have done. The is a trend towards casuality there. Obama is no Lincoln--everything that he has done seems to need some explainatory tag line to excuse why he did it. However, while Dems are making excuses for the things he HAS been involved in, no one can name many things he HAS done that have mads any real diffirence in politics to date. History reflects character--and his history shows he has been involved in alot of controversial things, and not many good ones. If you want to vote for someone just because you want to see a Dem become president, without being able to show a case history as to why can do the job, you are well within your rights. You will have to live with that, not I.
Character? You're going to play the character card? When the candidate you support had an affair on his handicapped wife and later divorced her.
Is that the sound of glass breaking in your glass house?
An honest man would have divorced his wife instead of cheating on her. To cheat on a crippled helpless woman is the most immoral thing any man can do. These actions are 100% worse than being friends with Wright.
so according to your argument than our current Bush should not have run for president either? hmm....
Yes. I think you've got something here. I think that Obama IS more experienced. He was a "neighborhood organizer". That means that he used to organize things. And he did it his neighborhood. He organized stuff. Stuff in the neighborhood. That's what he did. Let me ask you something; Do you have to ace a STUPID TEST, to write for this magazine? Who are these people, writing this garbage. This rag reads like a Democrat propaganda sheet. How many subscribers do you have? Wait. Let me figure it out on my own. I'll just add up all the gas station Mens' Rooms. Mu SHOES are more "experienced" than this idiot. As we will ALL discover, at our own peril. And, as for you Obama kool aide drinking thumb suckers, GROW UP. Get out of you parents' house and DO something.
"as for you Obama kool aide drinking thumb suckers, GROW UP. Get out of you parents' house and DO something."
- You clearly don't have much of a clue about Obama or his supporters, but hey if you spent some time sobering up, and would actually read something objectively on occasion you could become an informed voter. (I know I'm stereo typing here. One good turn deserves another, right?) Hint: Make up your mind are we elitists or a bunch of kids who haven't even made it out on our own yet? Best stick to the "liberal" label. Remember were the ones who have been warning people about an energy crisis and global warming since the 70's. Well, time is running out, but you may as well just put your head back in the sand.
Thank you, Metz and nice to see you back blogging.
The point of the article is that being in the state Senate is different than being in the US senate, and that state Senators are forced to know more about the issues they have to deal with. It had nothing to do with community organizers, which you also seem to know nothing about.
There is a point to be made that US Senators have to deal with some different issues also, but instead you just chose to show ignorance as if it was a good thing.
A lot of people think experience is what matter most in the ability to govern well as the president. I personally don't think eexperience is as important as wisdom, vision, good judgment and understanding, Experience by itself alone could only be useful for writing history, and that is if the memory of the one with the experience is good enough to give an accurate account. Experience can be valuable only if it is properly employed to make the right decision or right judgment. Unfortunately, not many people can make the right decision with their experience even when their experience is relevant for the decision to be made. Another important point is that goood decisions are never made on the basis of any single experience but on the basis of multiple of experiences carefuly analyzed in the proper context with good judgment.`Again, it is important to note that experience does not have to be acquired directly. Thus, the experience of the footballer on the field of play or of the boxer in the boxing ring may not be as accurate or as valuable as that of the keen observers that are watching from outside, say, the coaches, for example. The military, strategic, diplomatic, foreign policy, defense, economic, and national security blunders that are directly related to the Iraq war will go a long way to show that experiece cannot be trusted at all in the absence of good judgment, good insight, good vision, good analytical skill, wisdom, and understanding. The wrong decision to go to war in Iraq was made by people, including McCain, a long-term senator and highly decorated and highly respected war hero' with lots of experience. Their bad judgment, and lack of vision has led to a decision that las led the US to the terrible disaster in Iraq with loss of over 4000 fine soldiers and a lot more wounded and maimed, along with a huge economic and financial cost, and still with no end in sight. Obama, equipped with better judgment from better (even though maybe less) experience was able to foresee the dissaster and warned against the war and opposed it at the political risk of losing a pending election thereby.
Obama is neither experianced or qualified. He has flip flopped more than any other, has skewed the Bible, wants to increase taxes in an unstable economy, does not know anything about foreign policy, has not been to Iraq in many years, will put this country at risk, and will not win simply because Ameica does need a manipulative liar again.
Experience it´s just a fraction of what makes a good president. Charisma, intelingence, energy, the ability to listen to your advisers and experts, the ability to manage, to learn form your mistakes, to adapt. And many more factors wich are not as easy to determine come into play. Experience alone it´s not a good reason to vote for a grumpy geezer like Mcain.
Obama is a Marxist Jew hater and a foreign policy disaster. He set for 20 years in the pews and listened to reverend Wright and Farrakhan, is a friend of terrorists and wants to help Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas destroy the West and Israel.
Obama is a dangerous and risky combination:
He combines the worst of Presidents Bush AND Carter.
Remember Bush slogan "I am a Uniter not a Divider", a candidate full of hot air, without any history who promises a lot, and once elected delivers a disaster. At least through his actions has frightened the Arab extremists and prevented a repeat of 9/11.
Carter is the worst president that the USA ever had. He brought us an inflation rate of 20% due to his dumb economic policies, he created Iran as we know it today, controlled by the ayatollahs, he made sure that there is no peace between Israel and the Palestinians, he reduced our Military power to zero (we needed President Reagan to reverse Carters stupid icuts and naction), see who are Obama foreign policy advisors most of them are the same failures who served during the Carter administration...
Obama brings a combination of the two; he is full of hot air, chants like a Parrot ???Change??? and is expected to be a total disaster.
Obama was a disaster in every place he served as a community organizer, look at his neighborhoods in Chicago, according to his own writings: The Crime rate went up, the murder rate went up, drug use went up, the out of wedlock birthrate went up, the abortion rate went up, prostitution went up, educational achievements went down, welfare rate went up, this is what he wants to deliver to the rest of the USA.
Vote for McCain if you want your children to sleep safely at night.
You should not make such outlandish claims without reference to back them up.
My child won't sleep safely tonight, or any night he/she is in Iran. Nor will the children of Iran.
I meant to say Iraq... soon it will be the same anyhow... sadly.
Experience is not so important as having an individual who is an intelligent and enlightened human being. America and the world is in need of peace, love, truth, mercy and healing.
Experience not as important as having an enlightened and intelligent human being in office. America and the world are in need of peace, love, truth, mercy and healing.
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