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  • Posted By: danram @ 06/23/2008 6:18:42 PM

    When I first saw this headline on RealClearPolitics.com, my jaw literally dropped and I thought "What the f***? You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone on the planet more qualified to be president than John McCain. Certainly not any first-term Senator." But then when I saw that the story was from Newsweek, I just shook my head and thought to myself "Ha! That explains everything. These are the same geniuses who claim Obama is 15 points ahead of McCain when every other poll has him anywhere from 2 to 6 points ahead." Seriously, why don't you just go ahead and change your name to "DNC Weekly"? Your magazine is a joke as an objective news source.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:44:54 PM

      Yes, Newsweek is such a joke ... but here you are, blogging away, with your pathetic whining about bias. If this article has you upset, you're not going to like the next 5 months.

  • Posted By: BB63 @ 06/23/2008 6:20:47 PM

    I have worked on legislation for 28 years for my state district. Your claim that experience is difficult to measure is correct EXCEPT for the case in question. Mr. Obama voted "present" approximately 130 times in the Illinois legislature. His one legislative effort in his initial 143 days in the Senate (PRIOR to announcing for president) failed when he ended support for the bill. He found out his opponent was his own BIG donor!

    • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 6:25:14 PM

      Lies, Lies, and damn lies

      go to this site and query bills by sponsor; Obama (http://thomas.loc.gov/)

      • Posted By: Justbreathe @ 06/23/2008 6:42:33 PM

        Obama's campaign is a fraud, he has not intiated bipartisan efforts and instead is a classic liberal. His legislative record is so thin he has to pad his accomplishments in his first ad.
        http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2YxNTk0NzBiNjgzZmY0MjEwYzg5ODViMjMxN2JlY2Y=

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:42:49 PM

          And of course McCain is so much better. Didn't he miss the second largest number of votes his congressional session. Well, it's not that bad, at least he wasn't number one.

          Oh wait, the guy who was number one had a brain hemorrage. I guess it is that bad.

        • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 7:04:54 PM

          Look these up:

          Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative
          A bill to require full disclosure of all entities and organizations receiving Federal funds (with Coburn AND McCain) to name a couple...

          Incidentally there are 39 Sen. with more liberal voting records (Hillary being one of them). If only he were that far to the left. I'm guessing the logic being (in GOP heads) that "this kind of smear worked on Keery and Gore why not with the Harvard negro (people will believe it..."
          http://www.progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?member=ILIII

    • Posted By: WhenStarsTurnBlue @ 06/23/2008 6:38:05 PM

      Is this the bill? The one about nuclear leaks and failure to disclose it to a nearby community that Obama took up, then let die?

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html

  • Posted By: BB63 @ 06/23/2008 6:34:01 PM

    To Ezana: Black, Democrat, and educated does not mean experienced either. There is no possible way that any person should be vying seriously for the presidency on such a thin resume. As noted by several articles posted today, Obama is already running an ad spinning his experience in passing legislation for which there is no evidence that he did anything. His experience is non-existent. He is vacuous not necessarily elitist.

    • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 6:48:21 PM

      Who else vyed for the president with such thin resumes: Kennedy, Lincoln, W. Wilson, T. Roosevelt., George Washington
      What presidents stunk with great resumes: too many to name!

      • Posted By: Justbreathe @ 06/23/2008 7:00:33 PM

        Well at least you admit Obama has a thin resume; To compare him to those men is beyond premature. I will tell you who Obama reminds me of in terms of experience and arrogance in foreign affairs-George W. Bush.

        • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 7:06:46 PM

          Accept Obama listens to the people he appoints to advise him.

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:39:03 PM

            And Obama can talk and chew gum at the same time.

          • Posted By: Justbreathe @ 06/23/2008 7:19:23 PM

            "Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton and Senator McCain,??? he said in his remarks in San Francisco. -- No arrogance there

            • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 7:23:55 PM

              Unless he does understand foreign policy better than Clinton (the first lady not the president and what does sniper fire look like?) and McCain (what's a Sunni?). Stranger things have happened.

              • Posted By: Justbreathe @ 06/23/2008 7:51:32 PM

                Uh no, I will meet with Ahmadinejad without preconditions and then backs off. Jersualem should be a united city, no maybe not. With his foreign policy utterances he has either backed off or they have been terribly naive.

                • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 8:08:39 PM

                  Even Israel meets with they're enemies without preconditions (they just met the Syrians for pete's sake!). This whole send american's to die, talk later strategy is new a al wolfawitz, cheney, and bush. Even Reagan, Nixon, and Bush Sr. Met leaders of sovereign (enemy) nations without pre-conditions. Way to get duped though!

  • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 06/23/2008 7:35:50 PM

    Marty from TX has an excellent point!
    Comment: Barack Obama has more experience than did Abe Lincoln when running for POTUS:
    Both had eight years in Illinois assembly, then
    Lincoln served one term (two years) as U.S. congressman.
    Obama has served three years as U.S. senator.
    Gosh.... By current GOP standards, President Lincoln wasn't ready.

    Didnt mean to plagiarize, wanted to reiterate a very sound argument

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 06/23/2008 7:59:30 PM

      There is no doubt that Obama is ready to be President. It what he has ready for America that is the problem.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:33:50 PM

        Hmmm ... better economy, affordable health care, peace ... oh, and free ice cream for everyone! Yep, that's a problem.

      • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 8:16:04 PM

        oooooooooooooooooh sounds ominous!

        • Posted By: josemarti @ 06/23/2008 8:21:08 PM

          No not ominous. We recovered from four years of Jimmy Carter with eight years of Reagan and we will do the same after four years of Obama.

          • Posted By: josemarti @ 06/23/2008 8:29:19 PM

            If we can still vote that is.

            • Posted By: anotherview @ 06/23/2008 9:00:45 PM

              Good point as we will have the Democrat's version of the Bush term. A Legislative and Excutive Branch controlled by the same party. No checks and balances as envisioned by our fore fathers. Let elect McCain and see Obama walk his talk as the great unifer.


  • Posted By: cuppa jo @ 06/23/2008 8:22:58 PM

    What a dumb article..NEWSWEEK will write anything to help Obama get elected...

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:30:47 PM

      Yep ... and they did such a hatch job on McCain's wife. Naughty, naughty Newsweek.

  • Posted By: wowbagger @ 06/23/2008 8:34:14 PM

    Newsweek is so biased! First you put him on the cover of your magazine with a halo and now you suggest that a guy who was handed his seat in the Senate and immediately started running for President has more experience than a former POW and Military Officer graduated from the US Naval Academy. I am agovernment employee with 33 years of experience including working with legislators with safe seats and have learned to NEVER overestimate their ability or underestimate their GREED!

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    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/23/2008 9:29:50 PM

      Uh oh ... I guess you're not going to like the next issue either. They are going to have McCain on the cover, with horns and a pitchfork.

  • Posted By: collegevoter @ 06/23/2008 9:17:37 PM

    Shh don't tell them. They think experience is some magic elixir you pour on someone and it automatically makes them better. Our two most experienced presidents? Herbert Hoover and Richard Nixon. Our least experienced? Abraham Lincoln. The same amount of experience as Obama. But don't say a word. And anyone who thinks a Democratic Congress would stand up to John McCain after they've already failed to stand up to a Republican president once is insane. Don't be fooled a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush III. We will see the same continuation of the disasterous neo-con and far right-wing policies we've seen for the past 8 years. We all have a choice. If you think things have been going swimmingly in this country for the past 8 years, go ahead vote McCain in. If not, then you have to vote for meaningful change. Vote Obama.

  • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 9:02:57 PM

    Here is factcheck.org view...Mark

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/142884

  • Posted By: joneiric @ 06/23/2008 8:26:55 PM

    I think this is an excellent analysis. I don't know anything about state legislatures and not much more about the U.S. Senate. But I have generally held with anyone who will listen that experience doesn't matter very much in trying to assess what someone will be like as President. As Scott McClellan reinforced recently, the current president was a unifier across party lines in Texas; as President he has pursued a scorched-earth and very narrow partisan agenda, and FDR was a fiscal conservative until he entered the Presidency during a Depression. What has mattered in predicting Presidential behavior is character strengths and flaws; when we remember Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, Clinton--any of them--we tend to remember their political behaviors and instincts as the foundation for their Presidency. How was Bill Clinton's record as governor of Arkansas relevant to his choices as President? That entire ten years is only generally referenced through the lens of his personal qualities.

    So--setting aside the question of whether a state legislature or Congress is a better incubator of good Presidents--this article is dead on in asking us to focus on personal qualities instead of experience.

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 06/23/2008 8:01:27 PM

    McCain better be ready for the fight of his life. Obama and his Lady McBeth are getting ready to make a King Duncan out of him.

    • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 06/23/2008 8:20:38 PM

      Yeah he better be but at his age can he really put of the fight of his life???

      • Posted By: josemarti @ 06/23/2008 8:26:05 PM

        The age won't be the problem. There may be too much Bob Dole in McCain. Too much MacBeth in Obama. I just hope the ghost of Banquo makes an appearance before the Election.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/23/2008 12:54:18 PM

    President Obama Signs $8500.00 Per Household Tax Into Law: Funds To Go To The United Nations To Combat Global Poverty!



    Make no mistake, the headline above is a lot closer to fact than you may think! So if you're wondering what an Obama presidency would be like, look no further than the above headline!



    What the media is NOT telling you is that Barack Hussein Obama does, in fact, have a legislative record in the Senate and one of his proudest accomplishments is The Global Poverty Act (S. 2433).


    But wait just a minute! Isn't combating poverty around the world a noble goal?



    Well... the devil, as they say, is in the details!



    Some conservative leaders are already sounding the alarm and telling us that, if passed, Barack Hussein Obama's Global Poverty Act will commit us to a stealth United Nations-inspired global tax of $845 Billion dollars... that comes to approximately an $8500.00 tax burden for every household in the United States!



    Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media wrote: "The legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which... would amount to $845 billion 'over and above what the U.S. already spends.'"



    "The plan passed the House in 2007 'because most members didn't realize what was in it.' Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require."



    Remember the Food for Oil Scandal? Let's face it; the United Nation's actual record on ending pain and suffering around the world is pathetic and dismal.



    The questions to ask are, first, how much of our money that goes to the United Nations right now actually winds up lining the pockets of third-world dictators and despots? And, second, if Obama's plan succeeds, how much of his new $845 billion giveaway will end up in those same pockets?



    Barack Hussein Obama's Global Poverty Act MUST be STOPPED! Time is of the essence! Obama's Global Poverty Act actually has the support of some prominent RINOs such as Senator Richard Lugar and Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden, who just pushed Obama's world welfare bill out of committee. It could be up for a vote in the Senate AT ANY TIME!



    Barack Hussein Obama MUST be stopped. But more importantly, his so-called Global Poverty Act -- which has already passed in the House (because most Members simply didn't know what was in it) and is presently being pushed through the Senate -- MUST be stopped.


    This $845 Billion is not included in the $874 Billion on the Barack Spend-O-Meter! This new debt would break the Trillion Dollar mark!

    • Posted By: AmeriKhan Lobo @ 06/23/2008 7:37:04 PM

      If Obama passes bills that will need tax $$$, he won't be taking it from poor and middle class citizens. He will tax the rich and corporations(OIL) more than anybody else.
      Somebody must be slipping something into your food/drink because you are obviously delusional.

  • Posted By: bthis @ 06/23/2008 7:35:41 PM

    This obviously highly partisan opinion piece is a ridiculous attempt to promote the author's (and Newsweek's) equally partisan position on the election. It's a shame that Newsweek's editors have decided to abandon journalism to become a partisan mouthpiece for the Democratic party and the Liberal agenda. To pose Obama's experience as equal to (or greater than!) McCain's is ludicrous, as is the author's heroic effort to find support for his political position where there is none. Pitiful.

  • Posted By: debbiePAMOM @ 06/23/2008 7:32:28 PM

    Obama will be the same age or older than several Presidentrs including Clinton and Kennedy. Personally I prefer varied experience over too much based on the Wasington DC life. And I'll take Michelle Obama's experience growing up in a working class household with a shift worker DAD than Cindy's experience as a home wrecker millionare beer fortune heiress.

  • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 06/23/2008 7:13:56 PM

    But remember we are suppose to care about who wares a flag pin! THAT's the important thing here, flag pin's! Not???McWar and 100 years of war... McWar's letting the rich get off on Bush's tax plan... McWar's drill for oil and in 10 YEARS we get to save a whole .02 cents a gal...McWar's economic plan being Bush's plan... Going to Canada to give the Mid-West a big ol' NAFTA middle finger supporting NAFTA... Nope it's all about FLAG PIN'S!

    • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 7:21:24 PM

      Remember when the republicans stood for fiscal conservation and weren't just corporate/big oil mouth pieces? I thought McCain would be the last bastien against that parties complete dedication to whore-dom....not to be.

      • Posted By: Justbreathe @ 06/23/2008 7:30:47 PM

        Canada is the largest exported of oil to the United States and the Alberta Tar Sands have more oil potentially than Saudi Arabia. So tearing up NAFTA would not exactly be a smart move. McCain realizes this and Obama probably does too. That is why his top economic advisor met with Canadian officials to tell them not to worry about Obama talking about tearing up NAFTA or now how Oamba is saying his anti-Nafta talk was a little over heated.
        http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

  • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 06/23/2008 7:30:07 PM

    This is a very well written and insightful article, history tells us that Senators make good VP's and are hardly ever chosen as Presidents with this years election we have no other choice!!

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/23/2008 12:54:56 PM

    I guess Barack is shaken by all the bloggers and websites floating the Net because he has formed a "dream team" to help fight us! Senator Obama has formed a team to battle his negative image on the Internet. Why would he be concerned about articles that he claims are lies and misconceptions? Do you think that maybe a good percentage of those articles may speak the truth?

    Is it coincidence that Obama graduated from Harvard, a school with one of the largest Muslim organizations (HIS - Harvard Islamic Society) located on campus since 1955.

    Is it coincidence that Barack was repulsed by a very successful Republican President Ronald Reagan and is enamored by one of our worst Presidents in history Jimmy Carter?

    Is it coincidence that Larry Sinclair is getting death threats after stating he had a drug encounter and two gay sex encounters with Obama about 8 years ago?

    Is it coincidence that Obama had absolutely NO PROBLEM with his church or pastor until the year that he ran for President and then he amazingly saw the light?

    Is it coincidence that Barack received donations from, visited the home of and is friends with Pentagon and Police Headquarters Bomber William Ayres? Is that Liberal enough for you?

    Is it coincidence that 16 times convicted felon Tony Rezko donated thousands to Obama's campaign in Illinois, basically buying him the election, than receiving millions in Illinois contracts for himself and associates?

    Is it coincidental that Obama has all these questionable ties and with little to no political experience has received over $264 Million in campaign contributions?

    Is it going to be coincidence when Democratic opponents John Edwards receives an Attorney General's position and Hillary Clinton will get a Supreme Court nomination for their quick change in support FOR Barack Hussein Obama should he be victorious in November?

    Who is controlling this puppet. We may find out soon enough. I guess this article and others will put us on the Internet dream team's radar. Bring it on Obama Sheeple, you can't handle the truth!

    • Posted By: AmeriKhan Lobo @ 06/23/2008 7:28:19 PM

      EVERY candidate for president has a "dream team" to promote a positive image of themselves. It's called CAMPAIGN. STAFF.

      You really want to believe Larry Sinclair. I'm not surprised Sinclair receives death threats. I would love to break his kneecaps myself. He is a liar and is either getting payed to say bad things or is looking for money.

      I had a close friend who became a meth addict, then meth lab chemist. He's been in and out of prison. I bet if I was running for President, he'd try to blackmail me and tell everyone how much marijuana I used to smoke 10-15 years ago. He's probably lie and try to make up stuff and make me sound worse.
      ISomeone like you would probably believe him because you believe the worst and most untrustable sources.

  • Posted By: Dot4USA @ 06/23/2008 6:00:19 PM

    no matter what even with Obama's experience he is STILL a liar and a flip-flopper of the biggest kind
    judge for yourself at
    Hellnobama.com

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 6:48:46 PM

      This is the mentality that George Bush into office for eight years. You cannot rely on one site and say I won't vote for somebody....that would be like me referencing you to moveon.org. or veteransagainstmccain...527 type organizations, that will lead to no education about a candidate...Read as much as you can, and then make a qualified choice, regardless who, VOTE...Mark

      • Posted By: WhenStarsTurnBlue @ 06/23/2008 7:03:31 PM

        I will agree with you there. It's getting harder and harder to find credible sources, and nowadays even mainstream news seems so biased. The internet does allow much more information than ever before, but that doesn't mean it's good information.

    • Posted By: Ezana @ 06/23/2008 6:20:36 PM

      If you believe anything on that site you really freakin simple. Check his senate record and see if anything he's introduced and voted for looks socialist to you. Of if it makes sense that he is an elitist when he and his wife grew up poor (as opposed to being 3rd generation naval academy like McCain or an inheritied a fortune like cindy McCain) educated doesn't mean elitist it means he knows more about the laws of this country than someone who isn't educated in law (I know it's a leap, but try. While we're at it let's go out on a limb and imagine (I know this is a leap too, but try it). Black, democrat, and educated does not equal untrustworthy.

  • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 7:01:19 PM

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Monday, June 23, 2008

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday:

    Barack Obama 47%
    John McCain 40%.

    When leaners are included:
    Barack Obama 49%
    John McCain 43%.

  • Posted By: marty from texas @ 06/23/2008 7:00:09 PM

    Barack Obama has more experience than did Abe Lincoln when running for POTUS:
    Both had eight years in Illinois assembly, then
    Lincoln served one term (two years) as U.S. congressman.
    Obama has served three years as U.S. senator.
    Gosh.... By current GOP standards, President Lincoln wasn't ready.

  • Posted By: danram @ 06/23/2008 6:18:25 PM

    When I first saw this headline on RealClearPolitics.com, my jaw literally dropped and I thought "What the f***? You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone on the planet more qualified to be president than John McCain. Certainly not any first-term Senator." But then when I saw that the story was from Newsweek, I just shook my head and thought to myself "Ha! That explains everything. These are the same geniuses who claim Obama is 15 points ahead of McCain when every other poll has him anywhere from 2 to 6 points ahead." Seriously, why don't you just go ahead and change your name to "DNC Weekly"? Your magazine is a joke as an objective news source.

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/23/2008 6:50:27 PM

      I would suggest for polls go to Rasmussen for a more realistic look....he may not be ahead by 15 points, but there are statistical trends that you may find to your liking...Mark

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