Dush administration bought the world to this stage of recession. War on terror is justifyable but war on Iraq was unnecessary waste. Now crisis in Palestine will not help recession. For sake of huamanitarian the nedy should be helped.
The Bush administration now wants to watch you from the sky.
Dush administration bought the world to this stage of recession. War on terror is justifyable but war on Iraq was unnecessary waste. Now crisis in Palestine will not help recession. For sake of huamanitarian the nedy should be helped.
I sense a little psychosis creeping in
I believe it was Ben Franklin who said " Those who would sacrifice rights for security deserve neither". When our home got ???home invaded??? on 911 did our overseers buy better doors and windows and a better door lock? Those in power didn???t protect our borders they spied on our own people, they eliminated ???innocent until proven guilty???, they declared marshal law (still in effect by the way), they instituted soviet style torture on people being held with charge, they outlawed descent against the war and made Bush the ???Commander and God??? in the event of another terrorist attack. (see presidential directive #51 ??? 2007) How can we trust them now?
It is so sad that we let 200 years of freedom dissolve so quickly due to our own fear: I am not afraid of guys in caves. Hell, the USA vaporized two cities in Japan, a country the size of California. Did that end Japan?
Men in caves can not end this country. Men in caves can not take away the bill of rights, men in caves can not eliminate the Constitution, men in caves can not end the United States of America. WHY DO WE KEEP ACTING LIKE THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DESTROYING AMERICA? They can not?????????.
Stop playing into the fear mongering of this administration
Now all Americans can get a taste of what life in the USSR was. It's been ongoing since year 2000.
Cool, maybe we wont need local cops any more!
The government is already spying on and harassing US citizens without satellites. Apparently experimenting with so-called nonlethal weapons, we are harassed and tortured by covert operatives 24/7. This country (and many others) have sold out to the idea of maintaining security by becoming another Nazi Germany. It's hard to understand just what value some of this harassment provides unless it is to satisfy the sick, sadistic operatives with entertainment. A dubious public may as well be in collusion with these privacy invaders and the media does nothing to assist in the matter.
no government pol can be trusted to protect our rights unless he is sure that he will go to jail for any violations of the law
no government bruoucrat can be trusted to obay the law unless there is a cirteny that they will go to jail if they brake the laws
US satelite's purpose is the giving every imformation to stupid group , 97 % vote for their own region and
another are always voting same 70 % they are going to fix the vote.
This stupid group know everything about all the Korean people ,even their are number of spoon in the
house.
In 2005 , Very famous actress and woman singer were sucide consequently as a malancholia.
I said every people US satelite are very accuracy so satelite messanger knew everything about your
talking and doing . You are going to walk in the street ,stranger knew about all of you.
After then no popular superstar never sucided.
American should know about very expensive ,sophisticated something like alien predator's eye US satelite.
More than 10 years just one enemy spy catched not US satelite.
US satelite help organized south korean anti American beef protester.
It is kidding. No it is absolutly true.
Oneday , I talked to young American Agency that Korean need more American style change.
He said no change , change should be very slow.
US satelite do not use catching enemy spy or terrorist but a Korean stupid group talk a power.
All South Korean anti American beef protest are connected handphone message and very fast
get a imformation.
Their handphone message shoul be US satelite.
US satelite are very good eye of predator allien eye, If your are outsider or not agree US GOV.
. you walking in the street , stranger talk abot all your doing ,love ,talking how to behavior
so you are very upset , your are not escaped predaroe's eye.
yor are going to be mad because US satelite send a your neighbor to a handphone
message about all of your doing exactly.
Your neighbor ,receving satelite message about you talking very upset fact of you.
Enough of the cartoons you watch...huam420b....Have scotty and Spock already beamed you up?...That is not how it would work...But if you think so then go through life misinformed.
US satelite like predator eye in the movie ,so US GOV. know everything about you.
Your talking ,your e-mail ,how to love your lover
You are a complete idiot, Isikoff. You probably see little green men outside in the yard at night too, right?
You know absolutely nothing of how the U.S. Intelligence system works to keep YOUR bacon out of the fire each and every day. It does not involve imagined spying against U.S. citizens.
Bullshit. Eliott Spitzer was caught in part due to provisions of the Patriot Act.
In the case of Spitzer, the Patriot act did what it was supposed to do...catch criminals....Hopefully we catch more be it here or abroad...Politicians shouldnt be excluded...Im glad his self righteous ass was caught...He deserves every bit of justice that can be dished out on him...It seems the crooked politicians want nothing to do with these "spy" bills cause they know it would sooner or later knab them...that seems the real reasoning behind there defiance of them. They could care less if it goes against the constitution of us "lowly" ppl that put them in office...So long as THEY dont get caught.
Observer101 - How many criminals have been convicted under the Patriot Act? Think real carefully before you answer.
Honestly...Is that a serious question?...Would you like to know how many ppl lost there drivers license from not paying child support too, or How many politicians were caught red handed in awkward situations that required them to step down?...The Patriot Act is relatively new and when applied to specific cases there will be more criminal ppl done in by it...Just a matter of time.
Yes - it is a legitimate question, because else how do you assess it worth. I am sort of a data driven person - so - this is important. I am only interested in the primary portion not the side stuff - that should have been found and dealt with by other means.
As for your question...Noone person comes to mind...Several companies have had the Pat Act used against them by the SEC and they the company settled outside without admitting guilt...But given time the Patriot Act will serve its purpose of tracking large transfers of illegitimate funds, or applied to criminals wanting to harm the U.S. interests in one way or another...Like I said It is a fairly new law just after 2001 or a little later I believe. The Pat Act has and will be used by Prosecutors...As to whether or not some one person is convicted remains to be seen.
Let me see keep the 2nd amendment, but throw out the 4th. I think I have.
Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
BTW - If it were not for the liberal patriots in 1776 we would still be kneeling to the Queen.
In 1776 they never in envisioned extremists flying bombs into skyscrapers...or sats in the sky with picture taking capabilities did they?..They had there own way of spying on others back then.
Observer101 - Go read up on the American Revolution.
They were known as Tories (British sympathizers or Loyalists)- before American Independence was won in 1781 and the Constitution ratified in 1787.
Thats great you know your history OBWan....But what has this got to do with the changing times?..Im sure they didnt envision gays wanting rights, or ppl questioning God in the classroom...I understand the Constitution and what you are saying...But
Observer101 - They probably did not see non-landowners with the rights or that state assemblies would not be selecting the President. The constitution has been amended 27 times and only once did that amendment tighten the rights - Prohibition (18th), which of course was later repealed with the 21st.
Change has always and will always be with us. A very wise man taught me that when it comes to rights - mine end where the other persons begins, the difficult part is knowing where that line is. An even wiser man said "leave the things that are Caesar's for Caesar and things that are God's for God."
Those are indeed wise words to ponder and that is why this is a great nation to allow us to debate and argue where that fine line between one persons rights and anothers ends and begins. ..But protecting citizens rights and lives should always be the fore front of any President despite the fact if there a Dem President, Repub, or Independent. The implication of technology to defend ones country should not always be looked upon as an infringement of rights, grant it that there will always be someone in a position of power to abuse it...But rest assured the American public will not tolerate such abuses if such case is detected and brought up to the publics attention...No politician in his right mind would stand a chance if caught abusing such powers..
This we agree upon.
That is why we have three branches of government - with some very specific obligation by the legislative side in terms of oversight.
Well Im am done for the evening...OBWan you have some good points, and that is welcomed in my mind. You seem not to mind looking at things from different viewpoints....The wiseman words rings true in my mind...Goodluck to you and yours...P.S. the animal bladder and warm beer response was good.
sorry I sent before I was done..But you are right they were called tories...Im not disputing that.
This is a cleaver little post from another poster.....For those who slept through World History 101...here is a condensed
version.
Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer
and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.
The two most important events in all of history were:
1. The invention of beer, and
2. The invention of the wheel.
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer, and the beer to the man.
These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together were
the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
1. Liberals.
2. Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of
agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet,
so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be
invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were
formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BB Q at night
while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as
the Conservative movement.
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off
the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the
sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal
movement.
Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became
known as girlie-men.
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats,
the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of the
Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to
divide all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.
Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most
powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by
the jackass.
Yeah -and you forgot about fiefdoms and the feudal lords. The original containers were animal stomachs and beer was served warm.
First off...Never did I say you condoned such actions...I was making a point....But assume all you want..Surely you can make a lawsuit out of my freedom of speech...Not that you would win...Then when you are done you can sue a little girlscout for selling you cookies that contain peanuts...Then go after Santa Claus for not putting an E at the end of his name. and the tooth fairy for not giving your child more money under there pillow then he/she deserves..good luck.
You're not interested in talking about the issues one bit, just trolling. I've got nothing more to say.
Byyeeeee!
Correction: He did not molest an intern, she was a very, very, old enough willing partner, and frankly I don't give a rats ass that he did. What he didn't do was get us into a war with no end, and no purpose, other than to satisfy little Georgy Bushes grander plans, hey, we were better off for it.
Ofcourse you wouldnt care if Clinton is a philandering, adulterer..ndrock....You probably allow this type of pure adulterating fun in you own home....Or visit the local porn shop on a weekly basis behind your wife/husbands back. ...p.s. Abusing ones powers and taking advantage of an intern is molesting...He is what 80y/o and she was 70 years younger?...No excuses for the white haired, big nosed, index finger wrapped around the thumb, hand shaking liar.
In point of fact, Clinton was 51, and Monica Lewinsky 22 when they had their affair. This is a 29-year age difference, not 70.
Im sorry my math is off..From my Dem era public schooling...My point wasnt just the fact that there was a 29 year difference...He abused his powers in office to impress this goof ball intern to do him "favors", who knows what other intern he has taken advantage of that wont step up to the plate and expose his crooked butt....Either way he is a crooked liar to the American ppl...Not to mention a draft dodger...So ppl playing like Bush is the ultimate evil are just plain ignorant or in serious denial.
Bullshit. You just didn't feel like letting the facts get in the way of thelibel you were getting off on.
Libel?...So he didnt molest an intern?..He didnt use his position of power?..He didnt deny and lie through his arrogant teeth?..He didnt go through impeachment proceedings?..Sorry pardon me...Im in the wrong world i guess...I should come to your world where this stuff just doesnt happen...
Actually, it's more that I just have the courage to face it without throwing a tantrum.
Your are right... you are done in this post.
Perfect example of a lib is that they will argue about going to war to protect there freedoms and damn the very ppl fighting for there liberties but prance are shouting that they have the right to free speech... perfect example of not helping to protect free speech but expecting it anyway....They are the draft dodgers, the little people from college that dont really have a mind of there own that libs recruit for weekend rallies by bribing with extra credits just for showing up, or the ones who make up stupid reasons for not saying the pledge of allegience (probably because they were to lazy to stand up an couldnt recite it as a child so they use there own children as a reason to make up for there insecurities they had no control of), the ones who are physically abused by the sight of a christmas tree in the town square(probably not enough presents as a kid. brings back bad memories for them), Or the ones visually raped by looking at a cross, or the ten commandments in someones front yard or court of law foyer. And various other whiners...I am sure there are plenty more examples that i havent mentioned...feel free to add them....So to make the point kurosawa it does hurt to listen the those self centered or serving (which ever you like)mindless ppl.
You familiar with the term "chickenhawk"?
Very familiar... Are you aware that there are elements outthere that want nothing more than to detonate the biggest explosion on your front porch...Or are you the type that would sit and watch your neighbor carry in random little boys and girls into there house and pretend you didnt see anything until the cops and news media is all over your front yard asking why you didnt say or do anything?..Surely you arent the latter...Are you?
Nice scaremongering and pigeonholing. With regard to your unfounded implications that I condone pedophilia, you don't know one thing about me. This makes any assumptions about my character on your part completely unfounded, and potentially unlawful, given that they're appearing in print.
As far as the "elements out there that want nothing more than to detonate the biggest explosion on my front porch", I'm well aware of the extremism of some of our enemies. They match nicely our own extremists who are so scared to death that they feel we have to unilaterally attack anyone we might fear.
And both elements are the biggest cowards on the block, too afraid to even admit they're afraid, and dragging other people down with them in their own cowardice and ignorance.
Thats the new age of warfare....Know longer will we sit and let another country or "tribe" attack this country and go into hiding amongst other countries...(Iran, Afghanistan)...Threats are now perceived as actual plans of doing it...Bush 1 pointed it out, Clinton let it slide, and look what happened...A new age of warfare...Preemptive strikes are now a necessary tool when rogue nations have every intentions of carrying out an attack...Hense the sitting idley by story i presented you earlier that you misinterpeted...By the by I said watching a neighbor carrying kids in and out..not you doing it.
Ive pointed out all along that we need capabilities pointed in our direction to protect , if not deter unwanted elements. Catch them in the act...Thats were enemies of the U.S. want to strick us in our own country..Why not protect ourselves and have "big brother" watching if we have the capabilities?...It is not possible for the U.S. Gov to watch EVERYTHING we do...Just things that are considered red flags...Nothing different than the Cold War era...Just now its more sophisticated and highly teched out....So arguing that we would be deprived of our freedoms is just plain silly..
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