Who Was More Important: Lincoln or Darwin?

Darwin had the equivalent of a second grade education by today's standards. He knew nothing of DNA or protein or anything we've discovered by computers. Yet he is hailed as a genuis because what else is there? You can't say God created this place. That would be intellectual suicide. So you just say "it all just happened on it's own." Brilliant! So here we are in the middle of outer space, spinning around, and there's nothing else. No unseen forces - no morals - wwwwweeeeeeeeee. How about the Second Law of Thermodynamics? It's one of your laws yet it contradicts everything you say and hold dear!! So much for intellectual honesty....Get real. There is a much higher power at work here. Admit it.

high school dropout vs. sixteenth president

In a word, ridiculous.
It's ridiculous to put Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin on the same page especially in terms of their accomplishments and importance. Abraham Lincoln led this nation, as President, successfully through the most tumultuous time in our history, a bloody civil war that threatened to divide the nation and that ultimately ended the inhuman practice of slavery. He died while serving his country. Charles Darwin, on the other hand, came up with a theory (still unproven) based on very little hard "scientific" evidence or knowledge of the inner workings on the living cell. Even Darwin admitted the weaknesses of his theory (irreducible complexity). The theory of Evolution (random mutation followed by natural selection) may turn out to be only partially true (i.e., micro-evolution within a species). The Intelligent Design scientists are progressively proving that the full blown theory of Evolution is unsupportable in terms of real science and evidence [not convenient conjecture]. If the theory of Evolution can never be proven (e.g., transitional form fossils) or is proven false or only partly true, it will go down in history as the biggest misleading of the American people of our time. Its worth noting that the primary reason why the theory of Evolution caught on was because it was popular - it removes God from the equation of life and allows man to do whatever he pleases without external consequences.

In a word, ridiculous.
It's ridiculous to put Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin on the same page especially in terms of their importance and accomplishments. Abraham Lincoln led this nation, as President, successfully through the most tumultuous time in our history, a bloody civil war that threatened to divide the nation and that ultimately ended the inhuman practice of slavery. He died while serving his country. Charles Darwin, on the other hand, came up with a theory (still unproven) based on very little hard "scientific" evidence or knowledge of the inner workings on the living cell. Even Darwin admitted the weaknesses of his theory (irreducible complexity). The theory of Evolution (random mutation followed by natural selection) may turn out to be only partially true (i.e., micro-evolution within a species). The Intelligent Design scientists are progressively proving that the full blown theory of Evolution is unsupportable in terms of real science and evidence [not convenient conjecture]. If the theory of Evolution can never be proven (e.g., transitional form fossils) or is proven false or only partly true, it will go down in history as the biggest misleading of the American people of our time. Its worth noting that the primary reason why the theory of Evolution caught on was because it was popular - it removes God from the equation of life and allows man to do whatever he pleases without external consequences.

What's better, superhiways or green tea? This kind of comparison makes no sense.
What IS interesting is to see the small minded comments that such a non-sensical debate engenders. Are we nothing more than an animal without God? Why is being an animal something to be dismissed? You can only do that if you think YOU have value and an animal does not.
Did Darwin "admit" that evolution was just a theory? JUST? Did Newton admit that gravity was JUST a theory? Can't prove E=MC2 because it is JUST a theory? Ask the people of Hiroshima what it means to have JUST a theory land on your head.
How about Lincoln's failings? Did he suspend Habeus Corpus? Did he ignore the will of the people by plunging the US into war? (the person asking that question needs to read up on Fort Sumner). Did he play musical Generals?
This is a cultural discussion - nothing more nothing less. Trying to raise the importance of this comparison by showing your bias is fairly wasteful of your time, dont you think?

What's better, superhiways or green tea? This kind of comparison makes no sense.
What IS interesting is to see the small minded comments that such a non-sensical debate engenders. Are we nothing more than an animal without God? Why is being an animal something to be dismissed? You can only do that if you think YOU have value and an animal does not.
Did Darwin "admit" that evolution was just a theory? JUST? Did Newton admit that gravity was JUST a theory? Can't prove E=MC2 because it is JUST a theory? Ask the people of Hiroshima what it means to have JUST a theory land on your head.
How about Lincoln's failings? Did he suspend Habeus Corpus? Did he ignore the will of the people by plunging the US into war? (the person asking that question needs to read up on Fort Sumner). Did he play musical Generals?
This is a cultural discussion - nothing more nothing less. Trying to raise the importance of this comparison by showing your bias is fairly wasteful of your time, dont you think?

freetoknow is abssolutely right, however malcolm is the gullible kid who cant think for himself

Malcon Jones is an absolute buffoon, he asks if a man who put an end to slavery in the united states, preserved hundreds of thousands of lives from the middle passage, and even promoted the passage for the thirteenth ammendment to the constitution was more important to a man who degraded the humans by theorizing that ancestors our ancestors are a bunch of idiotic monkeys who slowly over millions of years adapted to their enviroment. Malcolm why is it callled the "THEORY" of evolution when in fact it is taught as truth in almost every high school in the nation, and malcolm , darwin was a school DROPOUT, do you really beleive a school dropout who was never even there a million years ago? Darwin theorized that an explosion created an intelligent design and lifeform, which violates scientific LAWS like as time goes on things go from orderly to disorderly, does an explosion of the printing press create Websters dictionary? Of course not.
does a tornado in a junkyard creat a boeing b-17 flying fortress? no. Malcolm i sugggest you go back and try to graduate your elementary history class.

it`s not surprising that ignorant people believe theory over fact they been teaching theory as fact in schools for years and kids who don`t think for themselves are gullible. just read some of the comments.

Malcon Jones is an absolute buffoon, he asks if a man who put an end to slavery in the united states, preserved hundreds of thousands of lives from the middle passage, and even promoted the passage for the thirteenth ammendment to the constitution was more important to a man who degraded the humans by theorizing that ancestors our ancestors are a bunch of idiotic monkeys who slowly over millions of years adapted to their enviroment. Malcolm why is it callled the "THEORY" of evolution when in fact it is taught as truth in almost every high school in the nation, and malcolm , darwin was a school DROPOUT, do you really beleive a school dropout who was never even there a million years ago? Darwin theorized that an explosion created an intelligent design and lifeform, which violates scientific LAWS like as time goes on things go from orderly to disorderly, does an explosion of the printing press create Websters dictionary? Of course not.
does a tornado in a junkyard creat a boeing b-17 flying fortress? no. Malcolm i sugggest you go back and try to graduate your elementary history class.

Darwin, by gazillions of light years. Lincoln (as another commenter noted) did NOT enter the Civil War to free slaves, and he said so in so many words. His administration was mired in severe problems, and his reputation was salvaged only by being assassinated.

Darwin not only made one of the most ephochal contributions in the history of science, but he gave an inspiring demonstration of how knowledge of our universe is acquired: not by armchair speculation, but by years of meticulous examination of thousands of items of physical evidence.

Darwin, by gazillions of light years. Lincoln, as another commenter noted, did NOT enter the Civil War to free slaves, and he said so in so many words. His administration was mired in severe problems, and his reputation was salvaged only by being assassinated.

Darwin not only made one of the most epochal contributions in the history of science, but also gave an inspiring demonstration of how knowledge of our universe is acquired: not by armchair speculation, but by years of meticulous examination of thousands of pieces of physical evidence.

Comparing Darwin to Lincoln is a crock! What exactly did Darwin do except corrupt the minds of the scientific establishment specifically, and academia generally? It's like saying that the Beatles were such a great gift to 20th century culture, when in fact they had a heavy hand in currupting youth in the 60's & 70's. Darwin, nor his latter peers, never did find the "missing link"...despite the fact that it is taught as fact rather than theory in public schools. Macro evolution has never been proven, while micro evolution is suspect.

Lincoln, on the other hand, stood up against the South and would not yield the high moral ground. It was bad and bloody, but it was a righteous fight nonetheless. Without "honest abe", slavery would have continued as the status quo in the South for many more years, if not decades before it was abolished. What did Darwin do for mankind? How did he improve the lives of the oppressed? What legacy did he leave?

Is the man-age or man-monkey his legacy? Or that man is nothing more than an animal? Or are we just complex amebas? How is it that mutations are not carried on into future generations with modern species? The Darwinian would say it's because the mutation was not beneficial...in who's opinion? If Darwin's theories are to be believed at face-value, then we are nothing more than amoral animals without a God...

Yo Texan . Darwin NEVER recanted his findings- where do you people hear that ? This was a rumor spread by someone named Lady Hope who claimed to be at his deathbed. And a theory is more than just an assupmtion- a theory has to undergo a series of tests through variuos scientific communities before it can be termed a theory. Darwin NEVER tried to prove there was no God- c'mon, do your homework. Lincoln and Darwin were two astounding idividuals who have alot to offer America.

Who really cares if Darwin or Lincoln had even lived? Would it have made any difference in your life? I'm sorry for those who think either of the men were necessary for our lives or even our thoughts. Each person can think those two were necessary if you want. but there have been others who have just as good or better ideas and thoughts. Each person needs to understand who they are, how to function, and where they are going after this mortal life. Accept the accomplishments of each but don't get caught up in idea that only they have the answers. People really need to think for themselves and not accept an idea just because it came from ??? That way everybody wins.

Lincoln is so much more important, he did so much for our country, Darwin did crap!!!, he try to prove that there was no God, very foolish, and in the very end he even stated he was wrong, so he was useless.

The rigidly enforced hagiography of Lenin preserved Communist party power in the former Soviet Union. The hagiography of Lincoln has preserved Republican party power in the United States. The book, The Marylanders: Without Shelter or a Crumb, by Stephen D. Calhoun fully documents the corruption and wrongdoing of Lincoln and the Republicans during the American Civil War. Typically, the radical Republicans in Congress approved funding for a ship called the Dictator and Lincoln approved the legislation.