Who Was More Important: Lincoln or Darwin?

Almost everybody knows Darwin in the US and in the world. Lincoln is someone for the US people only. The question is absurd.

Victor

Darwin introduced a THEORY that caused the unobservant to doubt their creator.
To look at a clear picture of creation and somehow believe that by running fast a lizard could cause its scales to turn to feathers.
To believe that ooze could somehow form into a walking, talking being with a complex internal structure and a complex brain.
My ancestors would have had to been a single-celled brainless organisms for me to believe this nonsense.

Darwin himself even admitted to the absurdity of his THEORY when he stated that "To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree."

Lincoln on the other hand believed in his Creator and used the intelligence God gave him to bring together a nation and save our democracy.

Lincoln wins hands down.

I just wanted to commend your writer, Malcolm Jones for such eloquent language. I really loved the story. My fave: "At the center of what people then believed, the tent poles of their reality were that God created the world and that man was the Crown of creation." Did you have this tidbit on a scrap of paper in your hat too? Anyhow, after reading the piece, I had to look him up on the Google. Malcolm - you should write a book and be known.

The very question Newsweek poses on its cover is ludicrous. What is Meacham thinking? Next to Darwin, Lincoln is an ANT. With a single insight, Darwin transformed humanity's conception of itself and revolutionized nearly every intellectual discipline as a result. What did Lincoln do? Saved one particular country from splitting into two? Freed the slaves? Had some political wisdom and courage? Please. Darwin swarfs Lincoln by many orders of magnitude.

The very question is ludicrous and makes me want to unsubscribe from the magazine for its sheer blindness. Next to Darwin, Lincoln is an ANT. Darwin's idea shook humanity's conception of itself to the core and revolutionized nearly all of the intellectual disciplines. What did Lincoln do? Saved one particular country? Freed the slaves? Showed some wisdom and political courage? Big deal. Give me a break. Darwin is at least as important as Newton.

Thank you Floridave for your brutal honesty. But I'm not sure if english is your first language or if you can read flowingly, so give it another shot. Poetry doesn't exactly have to rhyme either. Focus less on the sound and more on the content. Either way, thank you for the response.

I compared these two men in a yet to be published poem over a year ago, so this is the perfect opportunity to present my work. Maybe Newsweek would like to publish it. Here's some lines from my work. Any of you can email me at cameoisaac@hotmail.com if you'd like to see more.

"Even after alleged evidential findings
of his proposed natural selection
Charles remained faithful to his Christian Deity.
However, upon the death of the dearly beloved,
faith is susceptible to change.
There is a possibility,
his was buried with his precious daughter, Annie.

Like the pigeons he interbred,
perhaps Darwin hoped to spawn an advanced race
with his cousin Emma as his mate,
despite his father???s protest.
There are intricacies and complications to inbreeding,
of which may have been conducive to Annie???s death.".

Wisconsin's unique landmarks once again find themselves in the pages of the latest novel to be presented to readers of history, thrillers and religion in a work that combines all three genres into an adventurous global conspiracy.

The Epoch Point, just released on May 1 and written by Wisconsin native Spencer Zimmerman, is a fictional novel that includes historical facts, certain to intrigue history buffs who are interested in history from the local to the international level, especially as that history thrillingly plays out into what Zimmerman describes as a worldwide "conflict between God and the devil, good and evil."

According to the book's synopsis, the lead character, Robert Davis, is "a young Airman fresh out of Air Force basic training," reflective of Zimmerman's own recent service in the Air Force. "After being held captive in China, (Davis) suddenly finds himself unraveling the most immense conspiracy in history...soon uncovering hidden facts suggesting Russian and Iraqi involvement...discovering the diary of Lee Harvey Oswald...As the clues surface, an evil emerges powerful enough to rewrite the entire history of humanity...before long the conspiracy takes on a supernatural form, marked by [natural disasters] and the wrath of God...Nothing [prepares] (Davis) for the final suspenseful twist the story takes, a da Vinci style revelation that reaffirms his belief in Christ."

Zimmerman, having lived in several locations around Wisconsin, including near Lake Mills and Watertown, incorporated Wisconsin locations and history into his novel, among them a Viking cathedral on Washington Island and the events surrounding Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy. Also mentioned is a small village outside of Burlington, Wisconsin, founded by a Mormon religious leader who proclaimed himself king, the only monarchy to ever occur in the forty-eight continental states in American history. Among the other Wisconsin landmarks in The Epoch Point, and most notably, the famous national landmark Aztalan is discussed at length.

Zimmerman's discussion of Aztalan in his book in part follows what Zimmerman calls the "darker" side of Aztalan, including its cannibalism and religious practices, and the instantaneous disappearance of its thriving population. Zimmerman's writing also seeks to make connections between Aztalan's existence with that of the Minoan civilization from Ancient Greece and Zoroastrian culture of the Middle East. All three peoples had similar beliefs, worshipped fire (one of Aztalan's mounds is believed to have been the abode of an "eternal" flame) and practiced human sacrifice and cannibalism.

Zimmerman noted all of these "obscure (historical) connections," which ultimately inspired him to take the connections and formulate them into an adventurous plot. Writing his book took roughly two years.

The book's chapters are titled after the sixty-six books of the Bible, and the plot progresses as Davis reads through each chapter of the Bible, opening the Bible for the first time in chapter one of The Epoch Point. Each chapter follows a "flashback" style in structure, in which the book's characters experience revelations of historical events and experiences from 4000 B.C. to the present, which allow them to observe how those events contributed to the global conspiracy they are presently confronting. Zimmerman states that the book's events begin on New Year's Eve of 2000, and end on Christmas of 2006.

While writing novels remains at present a hobby for Zimmerman, he already has ideas for a second novel that he anticipates will follow a more scientific fiction path. The Epoch Point is currently available through Amazon.com, and Zimmerman is hoping to get copies of the book into some of Lake Mills's downtown novelty shops.
-Emily Ann Paape The Lake Mills Leader

I was raised by an American mother who breathed reverence for the law to me and my four "prattling" siblings. The United States' founding documents were as important as the teaching of Jesus Christ in our household. This article fails to mention the mind games that have evolved out of Darwin's "survival of the fittest" theory that have been used to undermine Lincoln's message. Acceptance of mental ability, economic shell games and the huge profits as signs of being one of mankind's "fittest" has destroyed the ethical fabric of equality and equal opportunity for all that is the very essence of our law. Treat others as you would have them treat you has fallen by the wayside in the pursuit of being one of mankind's fittest. The reality is that Darwin's message has undermined Lincoln's message.

Fact is my friends is that Benjamin Franklin did not invent the lightning rod. Nor did he discover electricity. He perfected an idea and lived to tell of his findings as oppose to getting electricuted to death like another or others. My point:) Erasmus Darwin, Charles' grandfather and others conceived the idea of natural selection before Charles did. But his grandfather believed God was responsible for it. Without voicing it, Charles was just like his granfather and may have lost his faith because of his daughters death. "May". It would be very immature to believe everything we read wether good or bad.

Darwin wasn't a great student or an incredibly brilliant man. He was a man who found something that fascinated him and then dedicated much of his own time to doing what he loved. Strip him of all the glory and you'd come to realize the artist beneath.

Lincoln was a self-educated lawyer with a moralistic obligation to mankind. Whatever alterior motives he may have had, he provided an unselfish service to people for peace. Ask yourself, what is art? What defines an artist? I'd say someone who indepentdently hones his craft.

No one should be critized for there preference of one these two men. It is a personal choice. However, it would not be a good choice if you don't study these two men in great detail. Again, don't believe everything you read and attempt to be unbiased. FYI: There is more controversy concerning the truthfulness of Darwin's history than there is of Abes. They were two great self-motivated artists.

This article is LUDICROUS. There is no comparing the two men. Darwin may have generated the most important intellectual idea ever. Lincoln was great, but Darwin dwarfs him by many orders of degree. This is like comparing Newton and a ham sandwich. It's ridiculous.

On a kinda' "silly" note: My father and I share the same birthday. We have often discussed the whole zodiac sign issue and how your supposed to be this and supposed to be that because you are X sign. That stated, I think that both men are trail blazers in their own right. They rocked society and convention. Honestly this argument is still a toss up for me.

Are any of you out there actually reading the article? I understood it to be a comparison of two men, Lincoln and Darwin, and a question as to which was historically more important. Many of you are commenting on various religious angles having nothing to do with the article. My vote is for Lincoln and not Darwin - not because Darwin did not change society with the theory credited to him, but because he stole the theory from the man who did the work, so the starting point for his theory is an immoral foundation of plagiarism. I know of no proven case against Lincoln like this. The author here of this article indirectly supports the facts of the true story, and I mentioned a couple of those points in my previous post. The fact that the man only made one trip around the world to collect data to support his theory which has knocked the blocks out from under the whole body of knowledge previously collected is implausible. I don't know of any great scientist or discoverer who devoted only a few years to their pursuit. Most have invested their whole lives to just one or maybe a few major accomplishments.

Find the book, A Delicate Arrangement: The Strange Case of Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace, by Arnold C. Brackman, and read the real story. ???With Darwin there is no Eureka moment when he suddenly discovers evolution. Right! Wallace had the Eureka moment, and Darwin took his life???s work and ideas when the man was dying from fever in the jungle. Wonderful - the man who changed our view of reality took one trip around the world to collect data, and then used a theory based on Wallace???s life???s work (the one who has never been recognized) so we can thank a liar and a thief for ???knocking the blocks out from under civilization.???