Yes, you're right, the War in Iraq wasn't ORIGINALLY about Al-Qaeda. But it is now, which makes it that much more vital we stay the course and ensure we are successful (read my post just below yours)
Yes, you're right, the War in Iraq wasn't ORIGINALLY about Al-Qaeda. But it is now, which makes it that much more vital we stay the course and ensure we are successful (read my post just below yours)
That;s the worst conclusion I ever read. This has the potential to be Cold War II or World War III, let's hope for the latter. However, because we're dealing with terrorists and not an actual government, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) doesn't come into play. WWIII essentially ends the world. On a slightly lesser extent, several nuclear bombs going off int eh major US cities at the same time would crippled the US. It's imperative we don't let terrorists get their hands on nuclear weapons, because if they did the US's position would be eroded.That;s the worst conclusion I ever read. This has the potential to be Cold War II or World War III, let's hope for the latter. However, because we're dealing with terrorists and not an actual government, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) doesn't come into play. WWIII essentially ends the world. On a slightly lesser extent, several nuclear bombs going off int eh major US cities at the same time would crippled the US. It's imperative we don't let terrorists get their hands on nuclear weapons, because if they did the US's position would be eroded. We are at war with Militant Islam, and it's one that will rage on for decades. But if we do what you suggest and deny there's a war going on and simply not fight Al Qaeda, along with like minded dictatorships (Iran), then that would be the mistake.
We are at war with Militant Islam, and it's one that will rage on for decades. But if we do what you suggest and deny there's a war going on and simply not fight Al Qaeda, along with like minded dictatorships (Iran), then that would be the mistake.
Answer: Yes we need a war time President.
If we pulled out of Iraq right now, just as Obama and the rest of the liberals want to do, not only would that nation spiral out of control, but the world would be at a much greater risk. One of the benefits from going into Iraq was that if it was successful you would have a functioning Democracy in between the two brutal dictatorships of Iran and Syria, which would be huge. Pulling out of Iraq wold enable Al-Qaeda to gain control, making it their new Afghanistan, making their new base and stranglehold.
I'm only 20 and going to be a Junior in college majoring in Political Science, but have already learned that pulling out of wars damages credibility and commitment. Our allies won't be able to trust us to complete situations any more, and our enemies will see that we can be defeated and how we can be defeated.
Obama, or any other non-war time President who doesn't accept any of these ramifications would be a massive mistake. It's ashame that a 20 year old college student understands this situation better than a writer for Newsweek. Shame on you.
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No one is suggesting that we not fight Al-Qaeda. I can't think of a single liberal or Democrat who's upset at ACTUAL OPERATIONS AGAINST Al-Qaeda. But the war in Iraq isn't that! It never has been!
Al-Qaeda in Iraq *DID NOT EXIST* prior to 2003 and our invasion. Very few liberals are going to have a problem with actually fighting terrorism, but how can you claim that war with Iraq is fighting terrorism when our invasion *created* the existence of Al-Qaeda in Iraq by providing a common enemy for militants who were mostly fighting each other before? As I've said to others, I supported the operation in Afghanistan and still do, but what I don't support is the fact that most of you conservatives lump every single Muslim, and Islamic regime, into the same category of "our enemies". That's one of the main liberal gripes with your position, and rightfully so.
How can you claim to be a political science major with credibility on this topic if you don't understand the cultural differences between Muslim groups, the different languages they speak, the different ethnic divisions? Part of the reason Iraq continually threatens to fall into civil war is that the provisional government badly underestimated the depth of division between Shi'a and Sunni Muslims in Iraq as well as the divisions between different ethnicities. You really think I should trust someone like you with a situation like that when you don't even understand what "Militant Islam" is, or how many different groups there are that make it up?
I took a year of International Relations and Arabic in college as well, and you would not have done well in my classes with the generalizations you make about "Militant Islam". You certainly don't understand the situation better than Fareed Zakaria. Next time you post, come back armed with an understanding of the differences between Shi'a and Sunni Islam, with at least a passing knowledge that there are dozens of different dialects of Arabic, with an understanding of the internecine conflict *between* so many different Islamic groups and Middle Eastern countries, or you come back with no credibility whatsoever that anyone should give you a job in foreign affairs, ever. I've said my piece.
Terrrorism is not limited to al Qaeda. Iran is Terrorism central. State sponsored terrorism is a real danger and not only in the Middle East. Whether we need a war president is a stupid question. We need a President who will know what to do if events dictate there will be another war. Obama is not that man.
Sorry for the double post....and correction: **Let's hope for the FORMER
"It is by now overwhelmingly clear that Al Qaeda and its philosophy are not the worldwide leviathan that they were once portrayed to be. Both have been losing support over the last seven years."
I wonder why? The war CAN'T have anything to do with it. Liberals are so dense. Al Qaeda recruitment is diminishing in Islamic countries in large part because the potential recruits are beginning to realize that if they choose to fight the US it's equivalent to a death sentence... 72 virgins notwithstanding.
Radical Islamists declared war on the US in 1979. Through the Iranian hostage crisis to the US embassy bombings, the USS Cole, the first Trade Center bombing and finally the WTC collapse we've been willfully blind to the fact that we were at war. Bush is the first president to actually fight back. I think that might qualify him as a "war president."
This author is getting ridiculous. Bush doesn't "like" to be called a war president, and Slick Barry Obama will be an embarassment on an international scale. War is still REAL, whether you like it or not, Fareed. *** http://SlickBarry.com ****
the kool-aid recipe is the reason you should not vote for him it sums up his reasons for running and if you think he's qualified to be president then you have been slipped a micky so to speak someone slipped you some obama kool-aid check his record his votes but most important check his agenda and ask your self is this who i want to run the country ! think about his tax plan think about his willing to give free health care to 15 million illeagles think about his forgien policy or lack there of think about all his plans and if you feel like he's the one take some ipecac syrup because you've ingested his kool-aid then go vote for someone who will get this country back on track i prefer the John McCain/ Mitt Romney ticket hopfully thats who will win the election in november if Obama gets it we are gonna have a hard row to hoe !!
I laughed out loud last night when I read the stretch for an article. The fellows in the photo that comes with this article surely must think the author has lost his mind. "oh, don't mind the bullets, this is not really a war!" The author is losing his intellectual honesty as we get closer and closer to coming of the Messiah, Barrack Hussein Obama.
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. -Sun Tzu, the Art of War
The issue of this presidential campaign is not just important to the USA, it is actually crucial for the rest of the civilized world.
So, please stop this childish and cheap pro-Obama propaganda.
Express your opinions with honesty, not according to your particular taste or special interests. Opinions, like Clint Eastwood said, are like ***, everyboy's got one. Thus we do not need your "opinion", we need a key to understand the situation and the event which are complex, difficult and appear even more fuzzy because of your irresponsibility and failure.
Those of you who think that all it takes for the war to end is for us to stop fighting do not have the first clue about the nature of our enemy. They have publicly stated their goal, and our way of life, our freedom, our smug stupid prosperity (uufouyou) have no place in their vision of their future. War has been declared and waged on us by fanatics, and until they are gone or we submit to their vision we will be at war whether we acknowledge it or not. It makes not one whit of difference for whom we vote - our enemy is at war with us until the bitter end.
Want war and an unstable economy for years to come? Vote McCain
Want peace and a stable economy? Vote Obama
I'm voting for Obama, because I care about Americas future, not Iraq's.
You may not think you are at war. I doubt a lot of America does, but for Grunts like myself, we see things very
differently. Some of us know what we are fighting for, the rest of us find a reason once we get there. Frankly, from the day a nation is conceived, a nation is bleeding to death. A true citizen of that country throws everything at the problem, potentially even his life- because he knows what can happen. George may not have made some of the best decisions, but at least something was done. The reason Iraq and Afghanistan have grown in terrorism levels is because the single-most threat to their operation is there, and kicking sand in their collective faces. There is progress in Iraq. I saw it firsthand. There is progress in Afghanistan. However, it becomes inconvenient to our people and they would much rather give up. So that all who fought and died would have lost their lives for nothing. There were dissenters and protesters in every war. I am not going to point fingers and call names- that would look bad upon my organization. But I will say this:
America, many of you have forgotten many things. You've forgotten us, over there. You have forgotten how you came about and the struggles your predecessors have gone through. Most of you do not know the true meaning of "pain", "loss", "suffering", and "sacrifice" . Many of you believe in an ideal, but shirk at every opportunity to defend or advocate it. Many of you dismiss reality with the click of a mouse or the changing of the channel. So what US troops are being killed because they are not allowed to do their job (because war is too "ugly".) , God forbid you miss "American idol".
I blame the world Americans and their counterparts live in today, and the out of control media that affects their judgment.
The ability to escape from reality and abandon responsibility. People can change the channel all they want, but eventually what they see on television will soon be visible from their own window.
I get a kick of some of the Republofairy trolls knocking "weak effeminsate liberals". Let's face it , the Right is the home of self hating closeted white male homosexuals. These guys probably get paid by thr inc!
It is the central reason why the American people are going to elect a socialist. There is no silent Progressive majority. Just a concensus that we must dail it back and spool it in on Iraq - a huge mistake.
Fareed Zakaria,
I wish you studied history a little more than it appears you have. Your article displays your lack of understanding of world affairs. You should do your homework before you print such irrisponsible babble. Your arguments are not butrussed by facts. You have much to learn. I wish I had the time to teach you all the knowledge you lack. But since I do not, I reccomend that you get a library card and do some serious reading...
Bill Clinton initiated hostilities in the Balkans twice? As I recall it, he had the Air Force drop bombs, from 30,000 feet, on the CIVILIAN population of SERBIA. And I don't recall that little piss ant, Rockefeller, saying that made the RAPIST morally unquailified for anything. These Libs, the Zakarias of the world, they just REFUSE to live in this world the way IT IS. The only reason that they can agitate, and preach their milksop garbage, and criticize REAL men and women who fight and die to keep us free, is BECAUSE, REAL men and women fight and die to keep us free. The weak, effeminate Liberals in this country make me sick, And they're gonna get us ALL KILLED one day.
Fareed Zakaria,
I realized with your first statement, how your article was headed. " President Bush is FOND of calling himself a War President". I do not believe our president is "fond" of being a war president. I believe he is a reluctant war president, and yes, he IS a war president. That you compare the conflicts in the Balkins, Panama and Kuwait as the same as our war in Afganistan and Irag, shows your ignorance of what our nation faces. We were attacked in our homeland on 9/11, as we were at Pearl Harbor. That you make such a cavalier statement is sad. You sould know better.
We cannot afford it.
This article reminds me of the story about the two ostriches who saw that they were being stalked by a predator. They broke into a trot, a lope, and finally an all-out gallop, and still the predator gained ground on them. So they stopped and buried their heads in the sand.
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