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Evangelicals Are Crucial to Winning the 2008 Election

By Lisa Miller | NEWSWEEK

July 7-14, 2008 issue

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Posted By: ruizjon @ 11/07/2008 5:30:41 AM

Comment: I admit the election was confusing for some. But now is the time for the Church to be the Church. Unfortuantely the Presidential election is a binary decision. Don't count the impact of Bible Believing Christians out just yet. Consider how is it that California, Florida, and Arizona passed laws prohibiting Gay marriage. Perhaps freed from having to be one party or another, the Church can finally rise up as the Church. (Protestent and Catholic - all the Bible beleiving variations therein). I call on all Christians who didn't want to be called "single issue voters" to now rise up and confront the Democratic Regime that you put into power on those single issues your Biblical convictions will compel you to take action on. Peace.
Posted By: qartha @ 10/12/2008 10:13:58 PM

Comment: It is common knowledge that the father of Muhammad was Abdallah; and his mother, Amina. Muhammad was a man born of an acknowledged father and a respected mother. Neither the Quran nor Muslim scholars claim that Muhammad was born in a supernatural way. His birth was not announced by an angel, nor was he born by the Word of God. He was born in a natural way as we all are, from a human father and a human mother.

As for Christ, the Quran states several times that He was not born in the normal way, as we are. His Father was not a human being. He was conceived in the Virgin Mary without the interference of a human father, for Allah breathed His spirit into her. This makes Christ - exclusively - the only one in the whole world who was born of the Word of God and His spirit.

Truly, the Messiah, Isa, Son of Mariam, the ambassador of Allah, is His word that He bestowed upon Mariam; and He is Spirit of Him (Women 4:171).

We breathed in her of our Spirit (The Prophets 21:91).

We breathed in Him of our Spirit (The Forbidding 66:12).

Christ is not a usual man, but the divine Spirit incarnated in human flesh. Thus He was born of the Spirit of God and the Virgin Mary. In contrast, Muhammad was born of a father and a mother, like all humans. He was not born of the Spirit of God.
Posted By: cferns1530 @ 08/06/2008 2:28:04 PM

Comment: When will Evangelicals just learn to focus on the present and stop worrying about Israel. My God! the way the pastor's keep talking about the end of days and the whole Left Over Left Behind whatever saga its just over the top sometimes. And that Jesus Camp doc....im speechless. For once i hope whether evangelicals or Baptists or Catholics or Atheists, anybody, please just consider your economy for the future of your kids and not for religion's sake. I guess God wants your kids to be happy too. When Bush said that God spoke to him in a dream to invade Iraq i was like "How could the so claimed greatest nation vote for this twit?...twice!!
Posted By: PMR1 @ 07/25/2008 1:51:15 AM

Comment: At last we see the press admitting that the truly important vote here is the Catholic vote, not the Evangelical. We will decide who is to be the next president of this country, and we will do so with good, conscious effort and due diligience-not the frothing madness of the deluded evangelicals, who foam at the mouth and spout hate and lies. Obama is the next president. Be glad. It is for the best.
Posted By: EvangelicalChristian @ 07/14/2008 2:49:41 PM

Comment: NO TRUE CONSERVATIVE EVANGELICALS WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA. THE ONLY EVANGELICALS WHO WOULD CONSIDER VOTING FOR HIM ARE THE ONES THAT DO NOT KNOW THEIR BIBLES. THE FAITH OF BARACK OBAMA AND REV. WRIGHT IS NOT BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY. GO MCCAIN!!! -EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN
- Posted By: collymore @ 08/07/2008 5:02:44 PM
  
  Comment: once again i must ask,are you god himself? how can you judge people?god did not ask us to be judges,jury,lawyers or executioners but to be witnesses.i am conservative and christian but i've come to realize that american conservatism hems real close to bigotry, intolerance and hatred.how about genocide,poverty,injustice etc? how about the vehement scoffing of other nations just because they hold a different opinion? how about kids on both sides of the iraq war who would never get a chance to meet their mothers and fathers? though i believe in the preservation of life, one cannot over look that in every hamlet of society,all over this world there is and will be abortions. our instructions are to pray for our leaders whether they are just or unjust.in this world of instant communication, can america live in isolation?what good is a man(gender neutral) if he prays but does not give his prayers wings, hands and feet? you cannot be that closed minded and judgemental.true strength is the ability to listen and analyze. no matter how right we think we are,we should stop and listen to the advice of others.
Posted By: Omaar @ 07/07/2008 6:14:02 PM

Comment: The Non-Issue is that Most of the people Calling Obama's Former Pastor a "Bigot" are The Real Bigots and I'd Love to See and hear You Bigots Ministers, Pastors Or Reverends on Tape or Video, Not to mention Your own Bigoted Remarks towards Afro-Americans.

Note: Wright was Not saying Only White America, So he is Not a Bigot. Had he said Only "White Americas Chickens wer coming Home to Roost" that would be Bigoted, but he said "Americas chickens are Coming Home to Roost"

Its White Racist that have Made this Judgement, Because somehow, they feel, he's talking Solely about "White America" when in Fact he's............... NOT !!

The Words America or Americans is a PLURAL, Not a SINGULAR....

But If the Shoe Fits You, Wear it Painfully.

Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/06/2008 2:17:17 PM
Comment: The big "religion" issue is Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan. Attention people: Birds of a Feather. Most of America is starting to figure it out. E specially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. McCain will win this election.

Posted By: Omaar @ 07/06/2008 2:01:19 PM
Comment: Seperation of Church & State: I`ll be glad, when No Candidate Attends a Church, or Endorsed by Any Church, Mosque, Temple Or Synagouge.

I'll be Glad when All Candidates say, in Debates "I'm Implementing the Seperation of Church & State Rule"...

My Religion is the Constitution.

My Religion, is to the (Republic) For which It Stands.

My Religions are the Senate, Congress, The State, This Nation and Its People.

You Hypocrites can Have Your Religion, I have Enough on My Plate, as You can See.

John McCain has Hagee & Parsley to Denounce, and You give McCain the Pass & Accept Every Excuse, but when its Obama...You all just Pile On.

Seperation of Chuch & State...For ALL Candidates.

They should not Attend Church...Anywhere.

Because the Pastor-Preacher can say Anything Controversial, at Any Time and this can Only Hurt the Politician, who may or may not have been in the Church, when the Pastor- Preacher says what he says.

All Politicians should use this Election as a sign...Seperate, Church & State...Permamently.

PS: Politicians & Most People don`t Attend Church Religously, Devoutly..Anyway, Just Like YOU...HYPOCRITES.

I`d Love to See Your Church and its Members

PS: MOST OF YOUR PRESIDENTS ARE DEIST-MASONS, AS WELL AS MOST OF YOUR SO CALLED "CHRISTIAN PASTORS".....FACT
Posted By: midnight05 @ 07/07/2008 3:31:40 PM

Comment: The religious right,, most of whom are good people trying to deal witlh the same problems we all are -- healthcare for our children, soarding gas prices, food insecurity, holding on to their homes, wage stagnation, the need for better education for their families -- is being squeezed by those who assume that the GOP has a right to them and will exercise that right by appealing to the assumed two biggies -- reproductive rights and homosexuality. It may be that the evangelicals have looked up from the wool Karl Rove pulled over their eyes and realized that they were had. I expect that a lot of them are going to be very angry. If they cant't vote for Obama, they may look at the whole package (Bush III) that McCain is pushing and say "Thanks but no thanks."
- Posted By: the-commish @ 07/08/2008 11:22:16 AM
  
  Comment: The article on "low-info voters" would be a perfect segue to this article. The religious right has really been "low-info voters" for the last couple of decades, blindly following the GOP because of abortion and gay rights. No matter what else any candidate stood for, if they were not Pro-Choice and anti gay marriage, they were not worth voting for.
  
  However, that is beginning to change, as many of these voters are beginning to realize that the economy, the trade defecit, the war in Iraq, outsourcing jobs and national security, the growing national debt, the energy crisis, etc. are also issues that directly impact them. It will take a while, but the GOP stranglehold on these voters has already begun to weaken, and I expect that trend to continue.
  - Posted By: the-commish @ 07/08/2008 8:00:16 PM
    
    Comment: Correction, of course, that should be Pro-Life!
    
    Silly!
Posted By: befair @ 07/07/2008 12:40:50 PM

Comment: In a nut shell it just seems to me that hate has taken root in the religious community in a frightening way. In some of these posts the hate radiates from the moniter screen. If you truly are religious then surely you must see that hating Sen. Obama and the democratic party so much simply because you have a different point of view is very wrong. There is no reason at all to hate someone because they have a different way of looking at things. I do believe in God and I happen to think that his heart is grieved to see his people behaving in such a hateful, judgmental way. To say that Sen. Obama must share Rev. Wright's point of view because he sat in the church for 20 years, says that all those who sit in churches all across this country must also agree with every word their pastor's say. I do not believe that Rev. Wright spent all his time preaching these kinds of sermons, he was reacting to world events that everyone had an opinion about. He came of age at a time when being black in america was very hard and his life experience was very different from Obama's. I think that he has been unable to put to rest the feelings of bitterness and animosity that he feels because of his past. I have been praying for God to help him recognize that he must let these things go so his message can return to one of inspiration. I have been baffled by the hate from christians. God must be sad watching all of this.
Posted By: Omaar @ 07/06/2008 2:53:39 PM

Comment: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/pastor-hagee-the-antichri_b_104608.html

On March 16, 2003, on the eve of the United States' invasion of Iraq, Pastor John Hagee took to the pulpit to warn of the coming Antichrist. In his sermon,

"The Final Dictator," Hagee described the Antichrist as a seductive figure with "fierce features." He will be "a blasphemer and a homosexual," the pastor announced.

Then, Hagee boomed, "There's a phrase in Scripture used solely to identify the Jewish people. It suggests that this man [the Antichrist] is at least going to be partially Jewish, as was Adolph Hitler, as was Karl Marx."

This "fierce" gay Jew, according to Hagee, would "slaughter one-third of the Earth's population" and "make Adolph Hitler look like a choirboy."

Hear Pastor Hagee's latest Judeophobic, anti-gay rant in this video, created by Bruce Wilson of Talk2Action.org

Exposed here for the first time, Hagee's comments identifying the Antichrist as a partly Jewish homosexual arrive in the wake of a furor the pastor provoked by describing the Holocaust as an act of God. Hagee's chilling sermon about the Holocaust prompted Sen. John McCain to reject the preacher's support, an unexpected turnabout after McCain spent over a year soliciting his endorsement.

Days after McCain's rejection, I reported that a key McCain ally, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, planned to deliver the keynote speech at Hagee's upcoming Christians United For Israel (CUFI) summit. As the story exploded into the mainstream press, pressure mounted on Lieberman to withdraw.
Posted By: Omaar @ 07/06/2008 2:37:51 PM

Comment: The Non-Issue is that Most of the people Calling Obama's Former Pastor a "Bigot" are The Real Bigots and I'd Love to See and hear You Bigots Ministers, Pastors Or Reverends on Tape or Video, Not to mention Your own Bigoted Remarks towards Afro-Americans.

Note: Wright was Not saying Only White America, So he is Not a Bigot. Had he said Only "White Americas Chickens wer coming Home to Roost" that would be Bigoted, but he said "Americas chickens are Coming Home to Roost"

Its White Racist that have Made this Judgement, Because somehow, they feel, he's talking Solely about "White America" when in Fact he's............... NOT !!

The Words America or Americans is a PLURAL, Not a SINGULAR....

But If the Shoe Fits You, Wear it Painfully.
Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/06/2008 2:17:17 PM

Comment: The big "religion" issue is Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan. Attention people: Birds of a Feather. Most of America is starting to figure it out. E specially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. McCain will win this election.
Posted By: Omaar @ 07/06/2008 2:01:19 PM

Comment: Seperation of Church & State: I`ll be glad, when No Candidate Attends a Church, or Endorsed by Any Church, Mosque, Temple Or Synagouge.

I'll be Glad when All Candidates say, in Debates "I'm Implementing the Seperation of Church & State Rule"...

My Religion is the Constitution.

My Religion, is to the (Republic) For which It Stands.

My Religions are the Senate, Congress, The State, This Nation and Its People.

You Hypocrites can Have Your Religion, I have Enough on My Plate, as You can See.

John McCain has Hagee & Parsley to Denounce, and You give McCain the Pass & Accept Every Excuse, but when its Obama...You all just Pile On.

Seperation of Chuch & State...For ALL Candidates.

They should not Attend Church...Anywhere.

Because the Pastor-Preacher can say Anything Controversial, at Any Time and this can Only Hurt the Politician, who may or may not have been in the Church, when the Pastor- Preacher says what he says.

All Politicians should use this Election as a sign...Seperate, Church & State...Permamently.

PS: Politicians & Most People don`t Attend Church Religously, Devoutly..Anyway, Just Like YOU...HYPOCRITES.

I`d Love to See Your Church and its Members

PS: MOST OF YOUR PRESIDENTS ARE DEIST-MASONS, AS WELL AS MOST OF YOUR SO CALLED "CHRISTIAN PASTORS".....FACT
Posted By: The_epoch_point @ 07/05/2008 10:27:55 PM

Comment: Wisconsin's unique landmarks once again find themselves in the pages of the latest novel to be presented to readers of history, thrillers and religion in a work that combines all three genres into an adventurous global conspiracy.

The Epoch Point, just released on May 1 and written by Wisconsin native Spencer Zimmerman, is a fictional novel that includes historical facts, certain to intrigue history buffs who are interested in history from the local to the international level, especially as that history thrillingly plays out into what Zimmerman describes as a worldwide "conflict between God and the devil, good and evil."

According to the book's synopsis, the lead character, Robert Davis, is "a young Airman fresh out of Air Force basic training," reflective of Zimmerman's own recent service in the Air Force. "After being held captive in China, (Davis) suddenly finds himself unraveling the most immense conspiracy in history...soon uncovering hidden facts suggesting Russian and Iraqi involvement...discovering the diary of Lee Harvey Oswald...As the clues surface, an evil emerges powerful enough to rewrite the entire history of humanity...before long the conspiracy takes on a supernatural form, marked by [natural disasters] and the wrath of God...Nothing [prepares] (Davis) for the final suspenseful twist the story takes, a da Vinci style revelation that reaffirms his belief in Christ."
Posted By: The_epoch_point @ 07/05/2008 10:27:44 PM

Comment: Zimmerman, having lived in several locations around Wisconsin, including near Lake Mills and Watertown, incorporated Wisconsin locations and history into his novel, among them a Viking cathedral on Washington Island and the events surrounding Wisconsin Senator Joseph McCarthy. Also mentioned is a small village outside of Burlington, Wisconsin, founded by a Mormon religious leader who proclaimed himself king, the only monarchy to ever occur in the forty-eight continental states in American history. Among the other Wisconsin landmarks in The Epoch Point, and most notably, the famous national landmark Aztalan is discussed at length.

Zimmerman's discussion of Aztalan in his book in part follows what Zimmerman calls the "darker" side of Aztalan, including its cannibalism and religious practices, and the instantaneous disappearance of its thriving population. Zimmerman's writing also seeks to make connections between Aztalan's existence with that of the Minoan civilization from Ancient Greece and Zoroastrian culture of the Middle East. All three peoples had similar beliefs, worshipped fire (one of Aztalan's mounds is believed to have been the abode of an "eternal" flame) and practiced human sacrifice and cannibalism.

Zimmerman noted all of these "obscure (historical) connections," which ultimately inspired him to take the connections and formulate them into an adventurous plot. Writing his book took roughly two years.

The book's chapters are titled after the sixty-six books of the Bible, and the plot progresses as Davis reads through each chapter of the Bible, opening the Bible for the first time in chapter one of The Epoch Point. Each chapter follows a "flashback" style in structure, in which the book's characters experience revelations of historical events and experiences from 4000 B.C. to the present, which allow them to observe how those events contributed to the global conspiracy they are presently confronting. Zimmerman states that the book's events begin on New Year's Eve of 2000, and end on Christmas of 2006.

While writing novels remains at present a hobby for Zimmerman, he already has ideas for a second novel that he anticipates will follow a more scientific fiction path. The Epoch Point is currently available through Amazon.com, and Zimmerman is hoping to get copies of the book into some of Lake Mills's downtown novelty shops.
-Emily Ann Paape "The Lake Mills Leader"
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 1:17:05 PM

Comment: Comment: Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/05/2008 10:58:21 AM
Comment: Barack Obama had the right as a U.S. Senator to go to look at Iraq. He did not. Then, one of his big vote getters was a promise to get us the hell out of Iraq. Now, nominated, he plans to go to Iraq to see if he needs to change his mind. I voted for him principally because he promised to get us the hell out of there. If he goes there and comes back to endorse staying there, then I reserve the right to flush my Obama vote down the toilet.

HERES PROOF THAT THE OBAMA MESSIAH IS FALLING APART!
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 8:51:40 AM

Comment: This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines Barack Obama's connections to a number of key individuals and organizations. In some cases, these affiliates are notable for the leftist views and objectives they share with Obama. In other cases, they are notable for their collaboration with Obama in controversial or unethical activities. In all cases, they offer a window into Barack Obama's values and priorities. Taken as a whole, they verify Thomas Sowell's observation that Obama has "spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America."

Radical and Socialist Influences:

Saul Alinsky
Bill Ayers
Carl Davidson
Frank Marshall Davis
Democratic Socialists of America
Bernardine Dohrn
Gamaliel Foundation
New Party
Socialist Scholars Conference

Political Allies and Advisors:

Ali Abunimah
Mohamed Salim Al-Churbaji
David Axelrod
Gregg Craig
Jim Johnson
Marilyn Katz
Anthony Lake
Robert Malley
Alice Palmer
Eli Pariser
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Dorothy Tillman
Joyce Wheeler
Tim Wheeler

Religious Affiliations:

Louis Farrakan
Rev. Joseph Lowery
James Meeks
Rev. Otis Moss
Rev. Michael Pfleger
Rev. Al Sharpton
Jim Wallis
Rev. Jeremiah Wright

Organizational Affiliations:

ACORN
Arab American Action Network
Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, P.C.
International Crisis Group
MoveOn
National Council of La Raza
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
Project Vote
Sojourners

Academic Affiliations:

Rashid Khalidi
Edward Said
Cornel West

Foundations:

Joyce Foundation
Woods Fund of Chicago

Money Scandals:

Nadhmi Auchi
Robert Blackwell, Jr.
Tony Rezko

Family:

Michelle Obama
Raila Odinga
Posted By: northcan @ 07/04/2008 8:30:38 PM

Comment: Personally, I don't think McCain is a True Christian, and fellow christian's will pick this up. They don't like his pandering for endorsment from religious leader's, only to share a church when needed. I have not heard in all these years, what religion or faith he has. His action's definitely are not christian, his temper is always following him and his sense of values seem to me, to be self-absorbtion. I do not trust this man, never will. I think he is dangerous. I think, he think's he can get a free ride from his family's military duty, his alone will never cut it. He has always been an angry man, and always will be....this is not who should lead the country to success, or progress with economic or military security.
- Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 7:04:05 AM
  
  Comment: and obama's not scary ??
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/04/2008 10:33:43 AM

Comment: WELL ITS THE FORTH OF JULY AND I'M GOING TO THE LAKE WITH MY FAMILY AND MY MARINE CORP BUDDIES WE ARE GOING TO PARTY !!! I'VE GOT MY TRUNKS AND THE SUN SCREEN FOR THE KIDS AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO WEAR OUR NEW OBAMA SLIPPERS ! (THEY ARE FORMERLY KNOWN AS FLIP FLOPS ) THATS WHAT WE ARE CALLING THEM! NOW OBAMA SLIPPERS ALL MY FREINDS SAY THAT IT FITS PERFECTLY... SO LOOK OUT AMERICA BECAUSE OBAMA SLIPPERS ARE COMMING TO A STORE NEAR YOU !!
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/04/2008 9:30:48 AM

Comment: From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
Posted By: Perusing-through @ 07/04/2008 5:32:07 AM

Comment: HIPOCRISY OF RELIGIOUS RIGHT EXPOSED

The beautiful part about Senator Barack Obama is that his Faith and GODLY walk is so genuinely authentic, it exposes a light on the dark hypocrisy of the Religious Right. Finally the religious conservatives have been exposed for the real fakes they are.

Christian Brother Obama has reached out with multiple attempts to shake the hands of hypocritical religious right conservatives, only to have fellow Christian Brothers from the right spurn Obama's good faith effort to converse as brothers. The Religious Right is nothing less than modern day crusaders always looking to savage other Christians that may not look identical to the religious right, or do not always march in absolute lockstep with the religious political crusaders. Case in point, you see what the hypocritical Religious Right did to Colin Powell.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
GOD BLESS OBAMA!
- Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/04/2008 9:32:25 AM
  
  Comment: From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
  From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
  From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
  From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
  From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'
  
  And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!
  
  From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
  yep he's a real christian !!! this proves it !
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/03/2008 3:05:41 PM

Comment: Refer to these votes by Obama if you are looking for proof...
2001 IL Senate Bill 1095, Born Alive Infant Protection Act --Obama voted NO

2002 IL Senate Bill 1662, Born Alive Infant Protection Act --Obama voted NO

2003 IL Senate Bill 1082, Born Alive Infant Protection Act --Obama finally got the bill from the senate as he was the chaired of the health and human services committee. He held on the Bill and make sure it would not come up for a comittee vote.

This is the sort of radical ultra left stands he takes that frightens me.....who would vote against ensuriing life saving protocols for infants borned alive even...if it was during and abort process gone wrong. Who? who would do this? Why would you kill a child who have made it alive into the world against all odds.....what is the humane justification?
THIS IS WHY OBAMA WILL NOT GET THE CHRISTIAN VOTE !!
- Posted By: northcan @ 07/04/2008 8:41:39 PM
  
  Comment: You cannot speak of Obama as different "willnotvoteforobama", than any child of a mixed race. This is a typical yearning, learning, listening, feeling experience, and many slam him for his 'feelings' at a certain time in his life is absurd. I have a mixed grandaughter, wonderful 15 yr old, with a heart of gold, these feelings are also her's at time's. Think, think, think.....is John McCain your answer? I would be terribly afraid of this man as President. Worse than Bush, worse than Leiberman. I think this man has a mission for his own 'supposed' legacy. His elitism, arrogance, stupidity, flip-flopping and war mongering is a dangerous thing to do. Iran will provoke this man to do something, They've seen his kind before. All bull, no glory.
Posted By: kleart21 @ 07/02/2008 5:18:56 PM

Comment: I am a Christian and will vote for Obama because I believe that he can lead this country out of the mess we are in. I don't believe in abortion, but I also don't believe in the government telling me what I can do with my body. Thank is something that MR. McCain would like to do and take away my freedom of choice as a women this is just unacceptable to me.
- Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/02/2008 7:52:12 PM
  
  Comment: HOW ABOUT HIM SAYING THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN IF YOUR A CHRISTIAN THEN YOU KNOW THE ONLY WAY IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST !! ALSO WHAT ABOUT HIM SAYING JESUS SEMON ON THE MOUNT DON'T APPLY NOW BECAUSE GAYS WANT TO MARRY !! IF YOUR A CHRISTIAN THEN THESE THINGS GO AGAINST YOUR BELIEFS ASK YOUR PASTOR WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT THE SERMON AND DOES IT APPLY TO TODAYS PEOPLE AND THIER BELIEFS ??
  - Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 07/03/2008 12:09:03 AM
    
    Comment: screaming in capital letters leads to heart attack, and stroke. try to meditate, yoga, some icecream and breathe a little bit. Yoga will relieve stress, and make you feel better if not see psychiatrist, psychologist or social worker, take it easy, I worry about you, be a good person willnotvoteobama and repeat 50 times I will relax, and breathe, after that call doctor and see if medication is available
    - Posted By: Wired @ 07/04/2008 12:16:14 AM
      
      Comment: Now thats funny right there.
    - Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/03/2008 10:53:08 AM
      
      Comment: BET YOU GOT THESE BUMPER STICKERS ON YOUR CAR >>My other car is a bomb
      
      This vehicle makes wide right turns into buildings
      
      Allah is my co-pilot
      
      My other car is a flying carpet.
      
      I'd rather be Jihading.
      
      If you don't like the way I drive, stay out of the World Trade Center
      
      Keep honking. I am rewiring.
      
      Visualize World Jihad
      
      0 to KABOOM in .2 seconds.
      
      Support our suicidal extremists
      
      My 12-year-old can blow up your honor student
      
      In case of Jihad this car will be exploded
      
      What part of ULLULULULULULULU did you not understand? - Allah
      
      72 Virgins or Bust!
      
      Martyrs do it like it's their last time
      
      My kid and YOUR money go to Gitomo Bay.
      
      I'm Muslim but you're ugly and I can blow myself up
      
      Baby Terrorist On Board
      
      If you can read this, there's a car bomb in the trunk.
      
      After I pray, I slay.
      
      Proud parent of Suicide Bomber!
      
      A terrorist is my co-pilot
      
      Fatah you looking at?
      
      Don't blame me, I voted for Saddam
      
      Honk if you Beat your Wife
      
      If the van is a rockin Allah will soon be knockin
      
      Driver carries only $20 worth of C4
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/02/2008 10:50:04 AM

Comment: the kool-aid recipe is the reason you should not vote for him it sums up his reasons for running and if you think he's qualified to be president then you have been slipped a micky so to speak someone slipped you some obama kool-aid check his record his votes but most important check his agenda and ask your self is this who i want to run the country ! think about his tax plan think about his willing to give free health care to 15 million illeagles think about his forgien policy or lack there of think about all his plans and if you feel like he's the one take some ipecac syrup because you've ingested his kool-aid then go vote for someone who will get this country back on track i prefer the John McCain/ Mitt Romney ticket hopfully thats who will win the election in november if Obama gets it we are gonna have a hard row to hoe !!
- Posted By: lawrencelowery @ 07/07/2008 11:56:14 AM
  
  Comment: as if we havent had a hard roe to hoe with the Bush years, and you're the one who put him there. there is no since in talking to you because im sure you small angry mind is all full up and there is no room for compassion, truth, true faith and religion( that which brings us together) i pray for your soul and hope the children you are so proud of turn out better than you
- Posted By: lawrencelowery @ 07/07/2008 11:51:07 AM
  
  Comment: yes this is who this country loving american wants to run the country. people like you sully our name and blaspheme God with your small minds, hateful words, and complete lack of empathy for anyone not like you. i assume from your rants that you are white/male/heterosexual/bigot and nothing i can say will change you. so im changing the country
Posted By: seyda @ 07/02/2008 10:37:06 AM

Comment: Newsweek is a globalist propaganda rag. They put an article on the US Presidential race in their "Global Literacy" section. How, as a Christian, can I in good conscience vote for a globalist like Obama? he's pro abortion slaughter; he's pro gay marriage, he's heretical and says that the gospel is just one of the many ways to salvation, he lies about believing Scripture and says the Bible is contradictory. He also cowardly lies about his muslim heritage and disowns his own pastor when his views go public. When the going gets tough Obama quickly follows the polls. He's not a real leader and i won't be confused by this Newsweek propaganda.
Posted By: surprize @ 07/02/2008 1:44:30 AM

Comment: I completely disagree. The Evangelicals will vote and they absolutely will not be voting for Obama. Liberal magazines like Newsweek always underestimate the intelligence and determination of honest, hardworking Christians. They spend their time and money disparaging them and tooting the horn for far left liberals like Obama. Lisa, sorry no cigar.
- Posted By: the-commish @ 07/08/2008 8:03:25 PM
  
  Comment: Actually, quite a few evangelicals WILL be voting for Obama.
  
  Will he get the majority of evangelicals? Of course not! But he will get a fair precentage of them!
Posted By: Nins @ 07/01/2008 11:14:23 PM

Comment: It has been the stated goal of the religious right to appoint conservative judges to overturn Roe vs. Wade for years. Bush is on board with this plan. Every single judge that Bush appointed to every single Federal bench that came open during his tenure was a right wing Christian conservative. The Democrats were stymied when the GOP controlled congress, and Bush got to appoint two right wing Supreme Court Justices.

First Bush appointed John Roberts to replace Sandra Day O'Connor when she stepped down. When Chief Justice Wm. Rehnquist died in 2005, Bush appointed Roberts as Chief Justice, and then filled O'Connor's empty chair with Samuel Alito. Both Roberts and Alito are Catholic, and both are outspoken against abortion.

Bush has appointed two of the nine Justices, including the Chief Justice. The current Supreme Court has been sharply divided on a number of high profile issues, including abortion rights, affirmative action, eminent domain, gay rights, the separation of church and state, sovereign immunity, and states' rights. The number of close votes in cases involving these areas suggests that a change of one or two key justices could completely shift the thinking of the Court on such issues.

Right now there are four Justices who are elderly and will soon either retire or die. The next President will get to appoint at least two new Justices. If the next President is McCain, those two will both be conservative right wing Christians. McCain has publicly PROMISED to do this, and explicitly said that his goal is to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

Most Americans, even most Republicans, value the separation of church and state. That clause is in our Constitution to protect us from exactly what is going on in America today! Allowing any religious group (especially a radical one) to control the interpretation and application of our laws in the highest court in the land is NOT democratic. Nor is it wise.

I don't care if you are a disappointed Hillary supporter or an undecided Independent or a life-long Republican or are pro-Obama. ANYONE, regardless of stripe, needs to vote against a candidate who had declared his intention of appointing partisan judges. Judges are supposed to be impartial. That is the basis of our legal system. Without that, you might as well live in a dictatorship, without recourse to law.
- Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/03/2008 11:15:21 AM
  
  Comment: I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH JUDGES THAT KEEP THE CONSITUTON !1 AND NOT HAVE LIBERAL JUDGES THAT WILL TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS LIKE THE STATE COURT JUDGES THAT ORDERED ALL GUNS TAKEN AFTER HURRICAN KATRINA THERE WERE NO POLICE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAD GUNS WERE IN DIRE STRAITS AND AMNY WERE INJURED BECAUSE OF THE INABILITY TO DEFEND THIER SELFS AGAINST THE CRIME ELEMENT! LIBERAL JUDGES ARE THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE AND THERE RIGHTS WOMEN WHO USE LATE TERM ABORTION METHODS ARE CRIMINALS THEY COULD HAVE EASILY ENDED THIER PREGNANCY BEFORE THE CHILD GREW FOR 6 TO 9 MTHS IN THIER BODIES THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER ALONG WITH THE DOCTORS THAT PERFORM THE HORRIBLE ACT !!
- Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/02/2008 7:54:19 PM
  
  Comment: THE CONFESSION BOOTHS AT YOUR CHURCH WILL BE FULL FOR 4 YEARS IF OBAMA GETS IN !!
Posted By: Redboy @ 07/01/2008 5:20:14 AM

Comment: This appears to be a very good topic for you "Christ-like" people. Hatred abounds!

Yes, satin has people killing one another in the streets and along country road ways, and he's got ministers, (ministers of what?), in the churches and pulpits.

This appears to be a good topic, in my opinion, because I see that some of you are actually, "checking" each other. Is there a possibility that you can "clean up your own act."

Listen, I say the evangelicals, or whatever they are, need to stay right ther with the Republican party. The countrty does not need them "festering out" These people love for thier leaders to essentially say to them, "do as I say, not as I do."

How happily and blindly they follow. Case in point, and close: ABORTIONS! How many Republican presidents have lied to you on this issue?

READ MY TYPE: No American president is going to remove this base right of an American woman. What about appointing Supreme court justices? What about it? Any man or woman who wants to serve on the Supreme court has to pass through a U.S. Senate confirmation hearing and that's where the "bucking" ends folks. Even if the Senate were entirely made up of Republicans, it wouldn't happen.

But, even I believe that we will always have weaklings among us who can not mentally process for themselves what others give them to believe.
- Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 07/02/2008 11:31:27 PM
  
  Comment: Redboy...who is satin???
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/30/2008 9:33:37 PM

Comment: KOOL-AID??????..From the kitchen of the obama sheeple!! take one heaping spoonful of an inexperienced elitist white male seeking self validation through exploitation of his african-american genetics. Combine two parts black liberation theology clerics spewing intolerance! With two parts of unrepentant intellectuals committed to the destruction of America. Stir in one cup of militant black wife harboring the overwhelming desire to stick it to whitey and one spoonful of typical white person grandmother mix well. Pour a gallon of anti-patriotism into tall glasses and sprinkle with naïve foreign policy ideations. Serve on a platter of meaningless oratorical hyperbole with a generous dollop of wealth re-distribution. Sprinkle liberally with zest of white guilt flip it and flop it till it tastes right. Serve large portions to the undiscerning and spellbound masses convinced that the Second Coming is upon America and now you have a complete recipe for disaster!
- Posted By: lawrencelowery @ 07/07/2008 12:02:07 PM
  
  Comment: you sound more afraid of the Blackness of these people than having areal platform to standon. whats wrong..civil rights movement to much for you
Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/30/2008 7:45:05 PM

Comment: McCain's "checkered" past on Equal Rights for ALL Americans, and Civil Rights:

http://www.colorofchange.org/mccain_facts/ - McCain votes against the Civil Rights Act, and MLK Holiday

Some say the overwhelming support of OBAMA by Black-Americans is fueled by racism. BASED ON MCCAINS voting record, OBAMA'S overwhelming support looks like a fight against a "once-racist" politician.

I thought this was interesting......
- Posted By: Nins @ 07/01/2008 11:21:35 PM
  
  Comment: I just cecked out your link, Kboogie, and it was excellent, thank you. Lots of proof of just how two faced McCain really is, and how he has violently flip-flopped on important issues.
Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/30/2008 1:25:57 PM

Comment:

Senator Obama just took another giant step toward winning the presidency. Actually, someone who considers himself a sworn enemy of Senator Obama took the step for him. Dr. Dobson of the Focus On the Family radio program (and evangelical media empire) has aired a program in which he attacks Senator Obama, the Senator's theology and his credentials as a Christian. With enemies like this Senator Obama doesn't need friends.

No, I'm not talking about Dobson energizing liberal Democrats. I'm talking about Dobson energizing his fellow evangelicals to vote for Senator Obama.
If you're one of many Americans who thinks that the war in Iraq was a mistake or believe that the Republicans have run the economy into the ground or think that perhaps the chaos George Bush unleashed in our foreign affairs has something to do with the price of gas at the pump... then you have Dr. Dobson to thank -- personally. No one worked harder to get Bush elected then reelected. Dobson delivered his millions of dupes. But now many of them see through him and like most Americans, are appalled by Bush.

The new generation of evangelicals is sick of being labeled as backward rednecks because of their association with fossils like Dobson. There are many evangelicals like Cizik too who are not all about homophobia, nationalism, war-without-end and American exceptionalism or the Republican Party. Like Cizik they believe that the America has a responsibility to do something about global warming, poverty, AIDS, human trafficking and other issues. They see through Dobson and the other so-called pro-life leaders, who have actually done nothing to reduce abortion. In fact Dobson has increased abortions because of his "abstinence only" crusade.

As a result of his power grabs and bullying of other evangelicals, not to mention his telling people how to vote and pointing them to the failed W, Dobson & Co. have zero credibility with a growing number of otherwise conservative evangelicals who happen--this year--to be looking favorably at Senator Obama's holistic Christian-based world view. Unlike Dobson they like Obama's theology just fine.

All that was missing to put the frosting on the Obama cake was for Dobson to attack him. For Obama to win all he needs to do is peel off a chunk of heretofore solid evangelical Republican votes. Dobson just handed Obama those votes.
Posted By: teddyo @ 06/30/2008 10:13:56 AM

Comment: I was born on the church pew born and raised in the church and Obama has my vote. He is the one God is calling for in these last and evil days. He will unite the church and cause many to confess Jesus is lord. Let the true Christian pray for our next Leader President Obama.
- Posted By: Nins @ 07/01/2008 11:24:15 PM
  
  Comment: I agree with you, Teddy. Obama is deeply Christian. His chapter on Faith in Audacity of Hope is wonderful. Every religious person should readi it, and then ask themselves, what does McCain offer that is half as authentic and good?
  
  God bless Barack Obama and keep him from harm.
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/29/2008 7:59:56 PM

Comment: true and obama has offended the christians with his speach about jesus's sermon on the mount he can take on john mCcain and twist his words but he can't take on jesus and try and twist his no way !!!
- Posted By: Nins @ 06/29/2008 10:15:58 PM
  
  Comment: Dear Will Not, could you be more specific about what exactly it is that Obama said in his speech about the Sermon on the Mount that you think is offensive? I heard the entire speech, and I found it to be exhilarating -- FINALLY a politician who speaks frankly about the complexities of religion, who listens to the Christian conservatives as well as to the liberals, and tries to get the liberals to understand the Christians and vice versa. In fact, his speech on race relations was very similar -- he spoke about the issues felt by blacks and whites alike, and tries to get them to understand each other.
  
  Obama is deeply, deeply Christian. Everywhere he turns he tries to get different groups to accept and understand each other, and to work TOGETHER to strengthen America. I really wish, Will Not, that you could find it in your heart to actually see how much Obama is reaching out to the conservative Christians, and reaching out to them in real ways, rather than just trying to manipulate their votes, like the GOP is famous for. Read the chapter on Faith in Obama's Audacity of Hope. It just might rock your world.
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/29/2008 7:54:39 PM

Comment: OBAMA WILL NOT GET THE CHRISTIAN VOTES BECAUSE HE MADE THAT STATEMENT ABOUT JESUS AND THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT AND HIS REFERANCE ABOUT THE BIBLE IT IS CLEAR THAT HE HAS BEEN IN THE WRONG CHURCH FOR TOO LONG NO WAY WILL HE GET THE CHRISTIAN VOTES HE CAN TAKE ON JOHN McCAIN AND TWIST HIS WORDS!! BUT THERE IS NO WAY HE CAN TWIST WHAT JESUS SAID AND WIN !!!! NO WAY !!!!
- Posted By: northcan @ 07/04/2008 8:53:05 PM
  
  Comment: Apparently you have a deficit with the Bible, Barack Obama is right. This is where the so called 'christian right' fails every time. They think their interpretation is the only interpretation and basically think their saved for doing nothing but calling yourself christian. There are many, many false prophets, false christian's, false gods. But true christian's not only speak with a divine love and respect for one another as Obama does, and they also live doing the deed's of the great Lord. War is not Ok in any Bible, for any christian. So hear we have the religious right forcing themselves on other countries, lying about it, killing women and children in the occupation of another country to call themselves 'the faithful'. Bologne, nonsense and you know it.
- Posted By: Nins @ 06/29/2008 10:16:17 PM
  
  Comment: Dear Will Not, could you be more specific about what exactly it is that Obama said in his speech about the Sermon on the Mount that you think is offensive? I heard the entire speech, and I found it to be exhilarating -- FINALLY a politician who speaks frankly about the complexities of religion, who listens to the Christian conservatives as well as to the liberals, and tries to get the liberals to understand the Christians and vice versa. In fact, his speech on race relations was very similar -- he spoke about the issues felt by blacks and whites alike, and tries to get them to understand each other.
  
  Obama is deeply, deeply Christian. Everywhere he turns he tries to get different groups to accept and understand each other, and to work TOGETHER to strengthen America. I really wish, Will Not, that you could find it in your heart to actually see how much Obama is reaching out to the conservative Christians, and reaching out to them in real ways, rather than just trying to manipulate their votes, like the GOP is famous for. Read the chapter on Faith in Obama's Audacity of Hope. It just might rock your world.
Posted By: EffYou @ 06/29/2008 5:17:34 PM

Comment: The first scheduled to show up after Jesus Christ is the antichrist; So obamayes we can are you sure you want to make that claim????
Posted By: EffYou @ 06/29/2008 5:15:27 PM

Comment: The first scheduled to show up after Jesus Christ is the antichrist; so obamayeswecan are you sure that you want to make that claim?
- Posted By: Nins @ 06/29/2008 10:17:41 PM
  
  Comment: Dear EffYou, since you seem to be new on this blog, you might not know that ObamaYesWeCan is actually AGAINST Obama, and always posts lame stuff that he hopes will hurt Barack.
Posted By: cooday @ 06/29/2008 1:10:48 PM

Comment: Our Own Online concert for Obama!

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Posted By: the-commish @ 06/28/2008 9:01:19 PM

Comment: The hard-core evangelical vote will still, reluctantly, go to McCain.

It's the ones who are away from the fringe (probably 40% or so) that McCain will have trouble with.

This is bad news for McCain, who will need almost every single evangelical vote on November 4 to gain the White House.

He won't get even 70% of evangelicals!
- Posted By: Nins @ 06/29/2008 10:18:45 PM
  
  Comment:
  The reason half of the conservative Christian right hates McCain is because they think that they can't trust him. McCain started his career as part of the Christian right (there's a little-known fact). Once he landed in the soup as part of the Keating Five (which almost derailed his career) he positioned himself as a liberal and became a reformer for campaign finance in an effort to resurrect himself. For those of you who don't remember, the Keating scandal had to do with some shim sham corporations pumping money into McCain's coffers. So McCain became a reformer to shine up his tarnished image, and that was his first departure from the right.
  
  Other, more serious betrayals of the right came later, after McCain got swift boated by Bush. The great Texas Republican political machine laid McCain to waste, and McCain was mad as hell. He started voting against the party line and against Bush. He suddenly supported abortion rights, opposed the Bush tax cuts, co-sponsored a patient's bill of rights with Kennedy and Edwards, and got on the environmental bandwagon with John Kerry. He called Jerry Falwell "an agent of intolerance." My gosh, he actually tried to crack down on gun shows in legislation he put forth with then-Democrat Joe Lieberman. And in 2001, when Senator Jeffords of Vermont switched from Republican to Independent in an effort to counteract Bush's stranglehold on the Senate, McCain announced that he was considering becoming a Democrat, and went into a pow-wow with Senator Tom Daschle at his Sedona ranch. And did you know that John Kerry floated the idea of having McCain as his VP in '04? That was to have cemented his status as a newly-minted Democrat.
  
  But instead of joining Kerry, McCain suddenly switched his affiliation, came out in support of Bush in '04, and jettisoned his liberal image. Suddenly, it was the "old" McCain from the 1980s back in the saddle, the neo-conservative, take no prisoners Creationist. Against abortion. For the war. The SAME man who opposed a Federal amendment banning gay marriage and openly met with gay groups now was pushing a gay marriage ban in Arizona. The SAME man who said in 1999 that he was opposed to overturning Roe vs. Wade, now suddenly in 2007 is promising that he will stack the deck in the Supreme Court with religious right judges and overturn Roe vs. Wade.
  
  But the religious right isn't so sure about him. He's supported so many different opposing positions at so many times, that they are afraid that they are getting played in the name of McCain's political expediency.
  
  You don't have to take my word for this. Watch news clips of McCain talking about the same issues in different years, which proves what I have written. Get on the Straight Talk Express and get it straight from the horse's mouth:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs&feature=related

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