Evangelicals Are Crucial to Winning the 2008 Election

Apparently you have a deficit with the Bible, Barack Obama is right. This is where the so called 'christian right' fails every time. They think their interpretation is the only interpretation and basically think their saved for doing nothing but calling yourself christian. There are many, many false prophets, false christian's, false gods. But true christian's not only speak with a divine love and respect for one another as Obama does, and they also live doing the deed's of the great Lord. War is not Ok in any Bible, for any christian. So hear we have the religious right forcing themselves on other countries, lying about it, killing women and children in the occupation of another country to call themselves 'the faithful'. Bologne, nonsense and you know it.

Dear Will Not, could you be more specific about what exactly it is that Obama said in his speech about the Sermon on the Mount that you think is offensive? I heard the entire speech, and I found it to be exhilarating -- FINALLY a politician who speaks frankly about the complexities of religion, who listens to the Christian conservatives as well as to the liberals, and tries to get the liberals to understand the Christians and vice versa. In fact, his speech on race relations was very similar -- he spoke about the issues felt by blacks and whites alike, and tries to get them to understand each other.

Obama is deeply, deeply Christian. Everywhere he turns he tries to get different groups to accept and understand each other, and to work TOGETHER to strengthen America. I really wish, Will Not, that you could find it in your heart to actually see how much Obama is reaching out to the conservative Christians, and reaching out to them in real ways, rather than just trying to manipulate their votes, like the GOP is famous for. Read the chapter on Faith in Obama's Audacity of Hope. It just might rock your world.

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
yep he's a real christian !!! this proves it !

I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH JUDGES THAT KEEP THE CONSITUTON !1 AND NOT HAVE LIBERAL JUDGES THAT WILL TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS LIKE THE STATE COURT JUDGES THAT ORDERED ALL GUNS TAKEN AFTER HURRICAN KATRINA THERE WERE NO POLICE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAD GUNS WERE IN DIRE STRAITS AND AMNY WERE INJURED BECAUSE OF THE INABILITY TO DEFEND THIER SELFS AGAINST THE CRIME ELEMENT! LIBERAL JUDGES ARE THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE AND THERE RIGHTS WOMEN WHO USE LATE TERM ABORTION METHODS ARE CRIMINALS THEY COULD HAVE EASILY ENDED THIER PREGNANCY BEFORE THE CHILD GREW FOR 6 TO 9 MTHS IN THIER BODIES THEY SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER ALONG WITH THE DOCTORS THAT PERFORM THE HORRIBLE ACT !!

THE CONFESSION BOOTHS AT YOUR CHURCH WILL BE FULL FOR 4 YEARS IF OBAMA GETS IN !!

Redboy...who is satin???

I agree with you, Teddy. Obama is deeply Christian. His chapter on Faith in Audacity of Hope is wonderful. Every religious person should readi it, and then ask themselves, what does McCain offer that is half as authentic and good?

God bless Barack Obama and keep him from harm.

I just cecked out your link, Kboogie, and it was excellent, thank you. Lots of proof of just how two faced McCain really is, and how he has violently flip-flopped on important issues.

The reason half of the conservative Christian right hates McCain is because they think that they can't trust him. McCain started his career as part of the Christian right (there's a little-known fact). Once he landed in the soup as part of the Keating Five (which almost derailed his career) he positioned himself as a liberal and became a reformer for campaign finance in an effort to resurrect himself. For those of you who don't remember, the Keating scandal had to do with some shim sham corporations pumping money into McCain's coffers. So McCain became a reformer to shine up his tarnished image, and that was his first departure from the right.

Other, more serious betrayals of the right came later, after McCain got swift boated by Bush. The great Texas Republican political machine laid McCain to waste, and McCain was mad as hell. He started voting against the party line and against Bush. He suddenly supported abortion rights, opposed the Bush tax cuts, co-sponsored a patient's bill of rights with Kennedy and Edwards, and got on the environmental bandwagon with John Kerry. He called Jerry Falwell "an agent of intolerance." My gosh, he actually tried to crack down on gun shows in legislation he put forth with then-Democrat Joe Lieberman. And in 2001, when Senator Jeffords of Vermont switched from Republican to Independent in an effort to counteract Bush's stranglehold on the Senate, McCain announced that he was considering becoming a Democrat, and went into a pow-wow with Senator Tom Daschle at his Sedona ranch. And did you know that John Kerry floated the idea of having McCain as his VP in '04? That was to have cemented his status as a newly-minted Democrat.

But instead of joining Kerry, McCain suddenly switched his affiliation, came out in support of Bush in '04, and jettisoned his liberal image. Suddenly, it was the "old" McCain from the 1980s back in the saddle, the neo-conservative, take no prisoners Creationist. Against abortion. For the war. The SAME man who opposed a Federal amendment banning gay marriage and openly met with gay groups now was pushing a gay marriage ban in Arizona. The SAME man who said in 1999 that he was opposed to overturning Roe vs. Wade, now suddenly in 2007 is promising that he will stack the deck in the Supreme Court with religious right judges and overturn Roe vs. Wade.

But the religious right isn't so sure about him. He's supported so many different opposing positions at so many times, that they are afraid that they are getting played in the name of McCain's political expediency.

You don't have to take my word for this. Watch news clips of McCain talking about the same issues in different years, which proves what I have written. Get on the Straight Talk Express and get it straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs&feature=related

Dear Will Not, could you be more specific about what exactly it is that Obama said in his speech about the Sermon on the Mount that you think is offensive? I heard the entire speech, and I found it to be exhilarating -- FINALLY a politician who speaks frankly about the complexities of religion, who listens to the Christian conservatives as well as to the liberals, and tries to get the liberals to understand the Christians and vice versa. In fact, his speech on race relations was very similar -- he spoke about the issues felt by blacks and whites alike, and tries to get them to understand each other.

Obama is deeply, deeply Christian. Everywhere he turns he tries to get different groups to accept and understand each other, and to work TOGETHER to strengthen America. I really wish, Will Not, that you could find it in your heart to actually see how much Obama is reaching out to the conservative Christians, and reaching out to them in real ways, rather than just trying to manipulate their votes, like the GOP is famous for. Read the chapter on Faith in Obama's Audacity of Hope. It just might rock your world.