centerview u obliviously have no clue what u are talking about
centerview u obliviously have no clue what u are talking about
In my opinion this just seems to be another liberally slanted article where you start with a conclusion and then write a story to support that conclusion. Once again we receive a story chocked full of doom and attempts to point out the stupidity of any human that doesn't agree with the enlightened authors magical words. Is this a news piece or an editorial? Please explain to the reading public what your message is supposed to be. Is it a story supported with facts or is it an opinion piece supported by quotes from people giving their opinion as well.
Where is the opposing opinion? Where are the opposing facts? Are you telling us that no one believes what your saying is wrong or that it might not be factually sustainable scientifically? Where is the other half of this story? Why can't you at least present both sides? Are we to shallow to come to the conclusion you desire? Or is it possible that someone might actually disagree with enough evidence that your desired conclusion isn't theoretically sound?
Why do we have to be spoon fed one-sided information when there is so much more to the story? This is such a common tactic to prevent readers from coming to a conclusion based on all the facts. This is no different than having a murder trial and telling the defense or prosecutor, sorry but none of your evidence is admissible. Who is going to win based on a one sided presentation to the jury?
There are many educated guesses that have caused mankind dearly. What about our great decision to stop using certain "dangerous" pesticides to eradicate malaria carrying mosquitoes. Millions of Africans paid with their lives while we tested and retested only to determine the chemical threat was much less or almost non-existent compared to the death sentence for many malaria victims.
When will we stop making rash decisions and climbing on political band wagons to impress our friends and colleagues. When will we take the time to view both sides of the story before crying, "The Sky is Falling?" When will we trust honesty and forego pride and vanity?
Your comment on pesticides and malaria is most interesting and telling. By your argument we shouldn't do anything about Global Warming until we know THE answer (as if there is a magic pill/solution we can take to make all our problems go away). You never die from global warming, you die from dehydration, starvation, conflict over scarce resources, and yes malaria outbreaks. All of these already exsist so no matter how bad it gets you will have people in denial.
Why does the right, oversimplify this issue down to a 5 second Fox sound bites making it sound like evironmentally concious folks are asking every family on the planet to sacrifice their 1st born child?
Being realistic and trying to get back on a more sustainable path isn't some commie plot to deprive you of your luxuries. Would you not turn your AC off if you could prove that that simply act would allow an african family to live? Somehow I think you have less concern for the poor sods who got unlucky enough to be born on that continent versus north america than you do for simply trying to trash the people and science behind the movement of combatting Global Warming.
You imply that by using modern conveniences with unintended ecological results that one is committing a crime. But every time you exhale, you release cO2 into the air. There are trade-offs to living a privileged, modern life because the very act of living has an impact on the environment. However, this lifestyle is preferable to the time before carbon emissions and even other nations in the present.
Talk about ignoring the facts, this summer has been one of the mildest on record. True there have been several powerful storms recently, but where were they last year? No where to be found, 100 year storms? Only Katrina falls into that Catagory and there were several far more powerful in the early 1900's. Globar warming freaks and geeks have become the modern day equlivalent to the "Stop the Nukes" of the 70's. Funny if we had ignored them in the 70's and built the nuclear power plants we wouldn't be relying on fossil fuels for power as much as we are, lessening global warming. Face it, it's your fault you idiots, you bitch and moan about this problem or that problem just because you want to have something to bitch and moan about. Get a life for God's sake.
I don't argue that the earth is getting warmer, I don't agree that we are doing it.
It was hotter than this before the last ice age so it makes sense that is will be warmer since we are still coming out of it.
What do you thing? Ice ages just go away in a year or so?
Not intelligent. Obviously just another article where the writer is told to link global warming with, well, anything. The founder of the Weather Channel absolutely refutes the possibility of man-made global warming, and I think I'll sooner believe him than a writer who doesn't even make an attempt at being an unbias reporter. "Global Warming Is a Cause of This Year???s Extreme Weather." Now, I see "a Cause" instead of "THE Cause," yet I see no apparent attempt to mention any other possibility. Good job Begley.
bring on the ice age maybe the second one will kill all the liberals and green theme idiots :))
intelligent.
It is interesting that in the late 70's and early 80's these same climate genuises were predicting an return to the ice age - a global freeze. Al Gore is making a fortune off this "chicken little - the sky is falling" hysteria - while living large on the Plantation in a house that's lit up like Coney Island. One never hears any counter arguments/explanations to the new cult of global warming - but there is a book - "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism" by Horner that offers some relief and counterpoint to the fascist, omnipresent rhetoric from the obsessive greens.
First of all Horner has absolutely no scientific background. He is a lawyer. Secondly I could understand your rhetoric if you had interests in Oil Companies, otherwise why would you automatically dismiss all claims. What could it hurt to take a look at the effects of all the CO2 emissions. You are just a sheep who is told that everything will be fine without truly looking at it. If your little republican cronies took a crap in a bag and told you it was a delicious meal you would probably believe them. Just don't get so defensive when you hear the words global warming unless you personally are getting rich from the energy companies.
It is not true that in the 70's and 80's any significant fraction of climatologists were predicting imminent global cooling. This persistent meme of reality deniers has been thoroughly debunked.
When you, Newsweek, say it's true, inferring that it's man made, you are pandering to the liberals and also to the less complex persons amongst us. Thinking persons will realize that it's merely another day in your urgency to say something remarkable today, it has no bearing whatsoever on history or fact. You are People magazine times 2, all splash with no substance, your intent is basically to sell crap but there is also some intent to freak us out. Thunderstorms with large hail, 70 mph winds, sounds like you are describing earth's beginnings, will creatures emerge from the oceans and evolve lungs and legs? Man is a puny inhabitant of a huge universe, despite Al Gore's plasphemous entreaties the earth is its own master and while man may foul the environment, the earth will eventually cleanse itself. One or another future philosopher will refer to this period in much the same way we refer to the past, The ice age was but a
second in earth time, that was no doubt a catastrophe to men of the time but changes and advances were wrought, who is to say there won't be similar results if the globe warms.
my suggestion is cut off his electricity take away his food his starbucks coffee and his worlthless million dollar home in the hills wanna cut back on wasted money quit watchin planet greens nazi shows get a real job and donate your money to some one who actually works for it , get off your ass take your lap top shove it up yer ass and grow up if it wasnt all about the money it would be worth listening to has it ever been proven?
People want solutions: For all the money we would spend on clean coal or nuclear energy we could develop actual solutions like the multiple renewable forms of energy. The estimated amount of coal in the US is about 250 years. That number was tallied before anyone ever mentioned using coal reserves for gasoline. We use coal mainly for electricity. The use of coal for gasoline would drive up the cost of coal and possible cut the supply for electric use by half. This is not a solution. Instead it is creating a slow moving blood clot that will eventually reach the brain and end in stroke. Nuclear power is not any better. It is another non-renewable energy. Uranium supplies are estimated at around 150 years. The cost will continue to rise just as with coal or oil. Therefore nuclear is not a real solution either. You might ask, ???What are the solutions,??? there have been so many renewable sources of energy. Many are very creative. Like the use of Ocean currents, Ocean wave movement, Tidal movement, Wind, Solar, Biochemical technology and other Biological Engineering concepts show promise or are already in development and production. That is where our money should go. But the real solutions free individuals from being attached to large energy companies. Oh, that is just awful, for them, but liberating for us. Imagine a source of energy that will never go up in price due to the fact that it is renewable. I already have, can you?
Cont: If the plankton blooms decline due to pollution and warming oceans a Precambrian Extinction event will acquire. Global Warming is heightened by our reduction of old growth forest CO2 absorption. Even the amount of Oxygen is directly affected by our actions. The increases of Ocean Dead Zones have decreased the ocean???s plant growth, which is responsible for 75 percent of the Earth???s Oxygen. We have a direct effect and relationship with the biosphere and its health or collapse. There is not an eco-system that has not been damaged, depleted, or ill affected by human contact. Global warming is the totality of all our actions upon all the eco-systems that are responsible for the stability of our climate, food supply, and the protection of the sustainability of life on earth. If the Biosphere collapses due to eco-system pollution and degradation, we may become extinct. But the earth will regenerate over millions of years, without us. Steven Hawking, the renowned physics guru has stated that the, ???Worst case scenario is that Earth would become like its sister planet, Venus, with a temp. of 250 deg. centigrade and raining sulfuric acid.??? That is, if we continue to destroy the biosphere, thus ourselves. The Earth???s biosphere and the health of our environment controls the weather with a little help from the Sun. When we destroy the eco-systems of the planet we destroy the stability of life and the weather patterns. All our actions via consumption add CO2 and other gases to the atmosphere, but it is all the other factors that are part of consumption that magnify our Green House gas pollution. Global Warming is Carbon pollution plus Eco-System Collapse. GW=C+ESC, Our extinction is when Ignorance and Denial are added to the equation.
Every time we purchase a product we generate waste, depletion of the source material, or an alteration to the eco-system and biosphere. For every tuck load of finished product 32 truckloads of waste are generated (Ray Anderson, Interface Inc.). We never directly witness what it takes to create the products we buy. Consumption equals waste, plus depletion of all resource, multiplied by cost of externalities plus direct cost of products.
C=W+DR (E+P) we only experience the C in the equation, the consumption. Our addiction to easy access products and our search for a fulfillment of all our emptiness or greed, with material items fuels our addiction to oil and energy. The energy required to make, transport, buy, and use these products is why we are trapped in a system of growth beyond the means that this planet can support via fossil fuels or ancient energy. The creation of a product creates more waste or pollution than does the product itself. Your key chain is responsible for pollution, the depletion of resources, any effect upon eco-systems and biosphere before it ever secured a single key. It is responsible for chemical pollution in the water, air, and soil due to the production process. It takes coal, petroleum, chemicals, and material resources to create the key chain. We have cut most of our old growth forest, turned large swaths of rain forest into unproductive potential desert. Desertification is on the rise especially in Africa and China. A single tree can absorb approximately 57,000 gallons from a large rainfall reducing flooding and soil degradation. Yet, still we cut and clear away our flood and desert prevention protection. We have over fished and depleted our fish stocks by as much as 90% around the entire globe (National Geographic Mag., April 2007) What fish are left to catch are not worth eating due to the levels of chemicals and a variety of heavy metal pollution. If we loose our ocean???s ability to sustain life, we loose life on the land.
Cont: They also claim that there is not enough evidence to reach a conclusion about climate history. This is a half-truth as well. We have Ice-Core samples that go back approximately 600,000 years, Geologic layers that go back multiple millions or billions of years, tree rings that reach as far as 8,000 years, and decades of satellite data. That is a lot of evidence. It is testable evidence; rather than the conjecture put forth by paid pundits, many of whom, are scientists outside of their field of expertise. When all else fails they like to conjecture that humans could not have a major effect upon the environment. This is not a half-truth; it is a lie. Why do we have an EPA? Why do we have to remove lead paint to protect our children? Would you feed your child fish from known polluted waters? Have we cut down 70 too 80 percent of old growth forest? Unfortunately, yes we have. Have we depleted fish stocks by 75 percent or more? Yes. Have we hunted Buffalo and large predators to near extinction? Yes. Have we altered the face of the Earth with major cities and sprawling suburbs? Yes. Was Chernobyl a direct effect upon the Environment? I would hope logic would bring you to the answer to that.
Some of the opponents of Global Warming like to argue that humans have no significant effect upon the environment especially the weather. They use the argument that Global Warming is influenced by CO2 from Volcanic Activity, Solar Cycles, and other unnamed natural cycles. Volcanoes do add CO2 to the atmosphere. Unfortunately this is a half-truth. Volcanoes add much more Particulate Mater into all the levels of the Atmosphere, which block Sun light from reaching the Earth???s surface. This Particulate Mater is a counter to Global Warming, yet it has not stopped or placed a significant dent in the advancement of Global Warming over the past 50 years. Thus Volcanoes may add CO2, but they do not add to warming, they actually add to cooling. The other excuse industry scientists argue is that Global Warming is only the logical result of natural cycles such as Solar Cycles. They point to Solar Cycles as the reason for our decades of Green House Warming. The Sun does play a part in our weather, true. But Solar Cycles are only 22 year sections of time split in two 11 year high and low periods. This does not account for the continual Global Temperature rise over multiple decades. They like to point to CO2 levels on other planets as proof that Global Warming is entirely a natural occurrence. This is a joke due to the fact that these fluctuations are minuscule in comparison to the CO2 levels on earth. They also point to prehistoric examples of Climate Change as proof of Natural Cycles. OK, there are long term, slow, or hundred thousand, even million year changes that have occurred, true. But the past 100 years of modern history does not match those stalwart cycles. Many of the past natural cycles were the result of Comet, Meteor, or Mega Volcano events, and the dissipation or correction of such events. We are experiencing quick or rapid Climate Change that is not the result of traditional long-term cycles or catastrophic events.
Global Warming is a real threat. But the greatest threat is Global Ignorance. We are witnessing the effect upon the comities markets outside of energy. Food prices will only continue to rise as drought, shifting climate regions and flooding increase. Oil has peaked even with any new drilling. Thus the price of energy will only continue to rise. The combination of these two factors will stifle consumer spending, drive stock markets down, and increase geo-political conflicts. We will see a perfect storm brew before our eyes, while many of us keep our head in polluted sand. We are affecting our environment much more than Global Warming; we are damaging the very Eco-Systems or Biosphere that supports all the Planet???s economies. As damage increases we will suffer from Eco-Inflation. If we do not remove our collective head from the sand of ignorance there will be a Global collapse of not only our economies, but as well our Biosphere. Life will go on with or without us. I am fearful that the trend will be without. With other factors like lack of education, exploding populations, exponential demand, increase land use, depletion of resources, Eco-system collapse, growing debt, rising inflation, Global Warming and increasing conflicts, the future is grim at best. Is this the future we wish for our children? Why do we as a civilization only seem to live in our own sheltered moments? We must think not 100 years down the road; rather we must think 500 to 1000 years down the road. Yet many of the proposals for dealing with the economy and energy are short term, live in the now mentalities. How about solutions like funding independent solar power for all American homes? How about funding research into Nano-particles, which generate electricity for house paint or car paint? Why not fund Bio-Chemical technology that would generate microbes that could generate photovoltaic or photosynthesized forms of energy? Why not? I feel that there are some who have a lot to loose if I can power my own house with out relying upon an Electric Company. What if you could plug your car into your house that ran on your own private solar technology? What if you could heat your home with out dependence on any outside source? What if the ultimate privatization of energy is not the privatization corporations would like individuals to have? What if Energy Liberty is the next Declaration of Independence, which must be signed by we the people? The answers are all around us, but they are not the answers many are trying to sell us.
Our environmental problems, climatic changes and global warming will endanger many wildlife species. Ironically, to saving those species we must destroy and some other the domesticated species we currently have in abundance -- our pets. Except those who are acting, guiding the blinds, guarding, termites and police detection, herding, hunting, catching rodents or other benefitial tasks. Pets, especially dogs in excess have contributed to some of our most serious environmental problems. Todays their wastes especially feces are piling up at our landfills even if they flushed into th toilet will create extra burden for water treatment plants. Waste before being disposed of are stinking up our air and atmosphere. Some of those gaseous waste such as mathane, CO and CO2 are greenhouse gases which will create global warming and climatic changes. Pet droppings on our roads have created driving harzards and polluting our water sheds. Those droppings will also spread diseases such bird flu or other diseases. Road kills may result in Mad Cow Diseases or making street unpleasant for walking. Pets will bite men sometime resulted in rabies. Regardless of whether there are bites, attacks by dogs will create traumas which will require medical or psychological treatment especially to small children. Again, they will deterred pedestrain from travelling on the road in favor of driving which will cause pollution and consumption of gasoline. Pet hit by cars will result in collison damages requiring more resources to build or repair new cars. Harvesting from natural and domesticated food supplies to feed our pet will creat food shortage for men and wildlife. Again, pollution will be their results. Agricultural supplies for pets will resulting in clearing of wilderness for plantation land. Pet at home usually require more space and more resouces to build bigger house. Wandering cat and dogs will kill wildlife. I hope many of you will find my discussion make sense.
2008 HEADLINES:
Aspen opens for late spring skiing;6-11-08
Hikers caught in SUMMER SNOWSTORM on Washington's Rainier(6-10-08)
Driessen: Climate-change politics about power;by PAUL DRIESSEN;5-6-08
West's snowy winter eases drought;4-23-08
Plentiful snowfall prompts ski centers to extend season;ASPEN;3-30-08
3-22-08;CHICAGO SNOW;HAPPY EASTER
GLOBAL WARMING: FEAR MONGERING AT BEST.;by Tim Ball;3-3-08
Record-setting system buries Columbus, then hits areas east;3-9-08
Blizzard warning in Ohio; foot of snow in Arkansas;3-8-08
Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back;2-19-08
Icy storm hinders travel:2008;
Bitter cold spreads into Northeast;2008;
Snowstorm grounds flights, snarls traffic;2-7-2008;
China battles 'coldest winter in 100 years'(2008);
Winter blast for the South(1-19-08);
Winter storms on both sides of country make for miserable travel(2008);
Central U.S. gets deadly winter wallop; Texas;1-31-08;
Freeze ices Midwest, Northeast:West;Fourth storm approaches;1-30-08;
Calif. is straining under nearly a week of snow and rain;Jan. 26, 2008;
Climate change and hurricanes stir debate among weather experts at meeting in New Orleans;JAN.2008;
Freeze after snow in South, Gulf Coast[1-20-08];
New England gets still more snow;Jan. 14, 2008;Commuting nightmare in N.H., around Boston; hundreds of schools closed:
California braces for powerful storm; 85-mph winds and heavy snow;
Heavy snow blasts eastern Europe;Jan. 3, 2008;Bitterly cold winter storm;
Global Warming Hysteria;BY Walter E. Williams;9-27-07;
....and if there is still any doubt;
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/global_warming_or_cooling/2008/02/19/73798.html
Yes, the debate is over:
Naturally occurring Climate Change=26+ (and still counting);
The Man-made Global warming/Climate change Pseudo-science of Al Gore and his minions=0 (he does get a technical ???1??? for his movie and propaganda machine);
Ms.Begley must have bought a set of the ???Emperor???s New Clothes??? from Mr. Gore.
You hit the nail on the head. I moved up to Washington from California for a more moderate climate. But now that we are up here the weather has gotten colder every year! There are so many stories of harsh cold it's amazing that no one has connected the dots and raised questions about the propaganda being spewed over the networks, and other new outlets. I wonder how long it will take before a scientific 'tipping point' is reached and reason returns to the debate. WIth the propaganda machine in full gear, it may be a long time. What gives me hope is all the people here who, despite the lies, still aren;'t buying it.
An El Nino / La Nina cycle oscilates back and forth every 3-5 years. Currently we are in a La Nina, which has the effect of pushing the jet stream further south. What makes this La Nina different is that it is the most intense in recorded history. This results in colder winters in the north and warmer summers in the south. Record flooding was inevitable and predicted months ago.
The question is: Why are we experiencing the most intense La Nina in recorded history?
This is why the term "Global Warming" is confusing for poorly educted people. "Climate Change" is more appropriate. The planet is not heating up evenly and consistantly; but rather, the retained heat is wildly disrupting regular weather patterns.
It appears, Objectivisior, that you also have bought a set of the Emporer,s New Clothes from Mr. Gore. It also appears that you have included yourself as one of the POORLY EDUCATED people, being as the La Nina pushes the jet stream farther north, not south which accounts for the colder weather, and severe storms up north. Also, La Niña is defined as COOLER than normal sea-surface temperatures, not hotter, in the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean that impact global weather patterns. La Niña conditions recur every few years and can persist for as long as two years. Are those clothes feeling a little DRAFTY about now?
The 1993 flooding was after the cooling caused by the Mt. Pinatubo eruption. This year's flooding followed a sharp decline in temperatures globally. Graph #4 on the attached shows the satellite measurements of temperatures for the last 30 years or so.
http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/003237.html
tell me has global warming been proven ? i cant say that ive ever heard it to be proven yet , the great myth of the 21st century brought together bye the government to run our lives a little bit more whats next are they going to tax us for the air we breathe ? if the green house gases are so bad why hasnt it came about 1000 years ago ? or are we just producing so many now its irrelevant to whats happened days past . if all the people who say suvs are so bad want them taken off the road take away there car if they says power plants are bad take away electricity if they say food is bad from genetic improvements take away the super market if they say air is bad smother there asses and get it over with......
Global warming or not, sometimes nature entertains us with her own reality shows, while were too busy with the made up ones. I do feel for the loss of people but you really cant blame nature. She just has the flu , be it coughing, wheezing,fever or plain runny nose.
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