Global Warming Is a Cause of This Year’s Extreme Weather

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  • Posted By: Crowall @ 06/30/2008 8:12:10 AM

    If we choose to believe in Global Warming and we're wrong, the worst that will happen is that we put a little less pollution into the atmosphere, and maybe slow the destruction of our natural resources and planet. If we choose NOT to believe in Global Warming and we're wrong, we're looking at the destruction of our planet, our natural resources, and potentially, the human race. I for one choose to believe, and do everything I can to do my part to stop it. If I'm wrong, I'll laugh at myself when I'm older. If you choose not to believe and you're wrong, no one will be laughing!

    • Posted By: edkollin @ 07/01/2008 11:09:21 PM

      If we choose to believe the human caused global warming theory and it is false we have spent limited resources on a false feel good solution instead costly painful ones that work such as building levies that around all coastal cities and building loads of nuclear power plants. An we must build them like right the French and Dutch not the corrupt way we have built them so far.

    • Posted By: Richard49 @ 06/30/2008 9:27:40 AM

      "If we choose to believe in global warming and we are wrong" the worst that will happen is the globalist will succeed in bringing the U.S. under global law that will destroy our economy by transporting it to China and other countries that have no intention of being duped so easily. Al Gore, China's whore, has already made 100 million from this hoax. There is nothing wrong with working toward cleaning up our air and environment but getting trapped in treaties that surrender our sovereignty is stupidity.

    • Posted By: Richard49 @ 06/30/2008 9:12:17 AM

      "If we choose to believe in global warming and we are wrong" the worst that will happen is the globalist will succeed in bringing the U.S. under global law that will destroy our economy by transporting it to China and other countries that have no intention of being duped so easily. Al Gore, China's whore, has already made 100 million from this hoax. There is nothing wrong with working toward cleaning up our air and environment but getting trapped in treaties that surrender our sovereignty is stupid.

    • Posted By: wwbjr @ 06/30/2008 8:37:20 AM

      We are being set up for the next great environmentalist fleece job. The last Ice Age ended in 1850. The current warming trend will continue for an average of another 1,500 years. It is a cycle and we can do nothing about it. The global temperatures have been much higher in the past without human pollution, ice caps have melted and Greenland was, well, "Green" land. Should we do nothing? No, but let's be measured and calculated and don't find ourselves being taxed through the snoot to cut manmande CO2 that has nothing to do with millions of years of climate history. And don't forget the big, bad USA is only one contributor of CO2 emissions and in a decade or so, we won't be the biggest "polluter"

  • Posted By: CraigA @ 06/30/2008 11:25:04 PM

    I won't argue with the author about whether or not global warming is occurring or not becuase I'd waste breath. He or she belives it is. Not important, but the idea thats its man made is arrogant on our part. There is one big factor (its actually 2 or 3 in one) is the thing we like to call our sun. First part, we orbit it elliptacally so there are portions of time when we are closer to it, second off the suns surface activity cycles have a much bigger role than some would like to admit. Sunspots and solar flares produce unfathomably large amounts of energy into space. Some of that energy gets here some goes off in other directions. I hate it when everyone gets all doom and gloom from something that is largely misunderstood or the evidence isn't concrete. As far as surface activity there are several scientist that are scared that by the ned of the next decade we will be moving towards the next ice age, kind of like the late 70's before the globe started a warming trend.
    And as for fossils fuels, there may be some evidence that they aren't fossil fuels, simply hydrocarbons. I belive that NASA has found (don't ask me how) that possbly 2-3 moons of Saturn are full of hydrocarbons. Who knows maybe there was life there millions of years ago but the didn't find any evidence to support that.

  • Posted By: ljguertin @ 06/30/2008 9:02:46 PM

    Correction. The word is ABIOTIC

  • Posted By: ljguertin @ 06/30/2008 9:00:27 PM

    There seems to b a lot of talk about running out of oil in this string of comments. What if oil in NOT a fossil fuel but a natural product of the earth's evolution and is being constantly created? Just Google the word 'abotic' and see what Russian scientists discovered over 50 years ago and what Russia is now exploiting.

  • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 06/30/2008 4:54:10 PM

    This year's bad weather is a direct result of allowing gay marriage.

  • Posted By: zanax @ 06/30/2008 4:36:04 PM

    newsweek post my comment

  • Posted By: zanax @ 06/30/2008 4:34:25 PM

    1st Fact. True, the natural forces do cause climate changes which take place in a long period, sometimes millions to thousands.
    2nd Fact Human pollution has occured in a short time period. Satalites are showing pictures of changes to our land. These are photos and not opinions of individuals. Example in just 100 years we have reduced the forest to 70%.

  • Posted By: HelpGWchokealiberal @ 06/30/2008 2:55:38 PM

    http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=166612&st=22

  • Posted By: HelpGWchokealiberal @ 06/30/2008 2:41:43 PM

    More charts:
    http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/style_images/customskin/blank.gif

  • Posted By: ted_hu @ 06/30/2008 2:38:10 PM

    Enough frat-boy yappings. When I bought my house 6 years ago in Seattle and asked for ceiling fans to be installed, the builder looked at my weird. It doesn't get that hot in Seattle during the summer. You might want to save that money he said. I stood firm and said that the trend indicate that things will get warm within a decade. Better now then later.

    Yesterday it was 99 degrees and I got sunburned. Last year was the same thing. And I had to buy extra fans for my downstairs rooms that didn't have ceiling fans. The year before that my town experienced a once-in-a-lifetime flood, with both bridges out of town cut off. Now for the first time ever, wheat, fruits, and corn can't be grown reliably in the Midwest and food prices are rising even more drastically.

    Green is just doing more with less. If you want to be a fat-ass and waste, go and burn your money on all the gas you want. It's going to the Mideast for all the good that does. Money talks, and as things get more expensive, know it's dimwits gluttonous Americans like you that are weighing this country down with the same ol' BS that got beer-buddy W elected and now the dollar worth some half its value 7 years ago and a trillion dollars in red debt that your kids will be too poor to pay off.

  • Posted By: HelpGWchokealiberal @ 06/30/2008 2:35:27 PM

    GW my A$$! Check out this chart!!!!:

    http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_06_2008/post-1726-1213724293_thumb.jpg

  • Posted By: HelpGWchokealiberal @ 06/30/2008 2:34:09 PM

    What global warming, Sharon????? Check this chart out!!!:
    http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_06_2008/post-1726-1213724293_thumb.jpg

  • Posted By: ted_hu @ 06/30/2008 2:33:06 PM

    Enough frat-boy yappings. When I bought my house 6 years ago in Seattle and asked for ceiling fans to be installed, the builder looked at my weird. It doesn't get that hot in Seattle during the summer. You might want to save that money he said. I stood firm and said that the trend indicate that things will get warm within a decade. Better now then later.

    Yesterday it was 99 degrees and I got sunburned. Last year was the same thing. And I had to buy extra fans for my downstairs rooms that didn't have ceiling fans. The year before that my town experienced a once-in-a-lifetime flood, with both bridges out of town cut off. Now for the first time ever, wheat, fruits, and corn can't be grown reliably in the Midwest and food prices are rising even more drastically.

    Green is just doing more with less. If you want to be a fat-ass and waste, go and burn your money on all the gas you want. It's going to the Mideast for all the good that does. Money talks, and as things get more expensive, know it's dimwits gluttonous Americans like you that are weighing this country down with the same ol' BS that got beer-buddy W elected and now the dollar worth some half its value 7 years ago and a trillion dollars in red debt that your kids will be too poor to pay off.

  • Posted By: mbuzdor @ 06/30/2008 10:49:02 AM

    Oh please. The founder of the Weather channel came out back at the end of 2007 and admitted that claims of Global warming were greatly exaggerated and accellerated to serve the purposes of special interest groups, alternative energy corporations, and those that invest in them <cough - Al Gore - cough>. The concept of global warming has been junk science (check junkscience.com) since its inception.

    The planet has natural weather cycles, and has for the last 5 billion years. Did the dinosaurs fart so much that it caused global warming, ushering in a 10,000 year ice age? - No. The planet's natural weather cycles did this. The only people that are "unbelieveably stupid and naive" as leinster so aptly put it; are those that blindly believe this panic-inducing propoganda fed to them by special interest-funded media. Check all of the facts first, most scientists who don't have environmentalist agencies pouring money into their pockets know and publicize that global warming is a hoax.

    A volcano produces millions of times the amount of greenhouses gases in minutes than it takes us to produce in a year. But yet, no one freaks out about global weather catastrophies and permanent climate disruption whenever a volcano erupts like Mt. St. Helens in 1980. Why don't we just stop breathing? 6 billion people expel countless amounts of carbon dioxide into the air every year simply by breathing, why isn't this a major concern for the EPA? It's because they're using this hoax to induce panic that lines their pockets with revenue from bogus "safety and environmental" fees like carbon credits.

    In all fairness, I do think we need to all do our part to conserve our natural resources, reduce pollution and take care of our planet, but global warming is a lie. How many of these scientists will tell you that we're experiencing the coldest winters in recorded history? How many of them have stood outside bundled up in the midwest at winter time when the wind chill is 40 below zero and said, "man, we really need to stop this global warming thing"? My guess is none.

    • Posted By: MichiganMan59 @ 06/30/2008 2:10:22 PM

      The founder of TWC came out with his statements after he sold his interest in it. They started the Global Warming BS after he left.

  • Posted By: onepoker @ 06/30/2008 1:53:05 PM

    the sun will eventually expand swallowing the whole planet so whatever we dont use will be destroyed! QUIT BUGGING ME ABOUT MY SUV and piss off greenies.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 06/30/2008 1:42:04 PM

    What's the Mark Twain quote - everybody talks about the weather but nobody does much about it?

    Regardless of whether you believe in the Gospel of Global Warming according to Al Gore or you think the whole thing is an elaborate liberal media hoax of the worst order, it is obvious that the cost of rampant, unchecked growth in coastal and low-lying areas is costing us billions of dollars annually in insurance and replacement costs. Ditto for the areas vulnerable to forest fires.

    At this point, where and how the extreme weather comes from is no longer the only issue.

    It is past time we started looking long and hard at where we allow people to build, and perhaps more to the point, where we allow them to re-build.

    As wonderful as New Orleans is, as delightful as the coastal sections of North Carolina and Florida are, as fertile as the Mississippi valley may be, and as prestigous as the canyons of California have become, it may be time for us to re-evaluate our national flood policy, our national hurricane policy, and perhaps, our national fire-fighting policy.

    What seems beyond argument is that when Man goes up against Nature, Nature wins everytime. We aren't subduing the earth - the earth is subduing us.

  • Posted By: summer4077 @ 06/30/2008 8:35:37 AM

    I think the naysayers are missing the point of this article. She acknowledges that there have always been extreme weather events, however, the instances of disastrous weather events have greatly increased. I don't completely buy into the extreme doom and gloom, but we all need to do more to protect the environment. I've seen rivers that are disgusting, with refuse floating everywhere in them...the air in LA is so thick with smog it chokes you sometimes...whole populations of fish and coral are disappearing, not to mention rain forests and certain plant species...and you see factories and cars everywhere spewing black smoke into the air. No one can rationally see these things and think we aren't having a negative impact. How big of an impact is still up for argument and remains to be seen.
    What's the problem with conservatives? So what if the 'treehuggers' are wrong and it's not that bad? At the very least, we'll all have cleaner air and water and lead healthier lives. Plus, by cutting our dependence on foreign oil, we'll be involved in less fiascos like the Iraq war. I just don't see what the big deal about living greener is. Is it really going to kill you to drive less, or (gasp!) downgrade to a smaller car? Or throw your recyclable materials into a bin to be picked up on trash day? Is that so hard?

    • Posted By: pbpace @ 06/30/2008 8:54:45 AM

      "...the instances of disastrous weather events have greatly increased"....what evidence do you have for this? What timeline are you referring to??...the last 30 years? ...the last 100 years?....1000 years? I am all for conservation, cleaner living and recycling. With regards to your statement "so what if the tree huggers are wrong" , however, I must take issue. If the "tree huggers" are advocating carbon taxes, wealth redistribution and the like then I would submit the veracity of their theories makes a good deal of difference.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 06/30/2008 11:01:26 AM

        Epic events that should only happen once every 500 years are happening every 15 years instead. Monsoons, droughts, hurricanes/typhoons, flooding, tornadoes--all are increasing. Look at some weather statistics since they have been tracked, about the last 150 years, and you'll see an increase in these types of events.
        Again, researching alternative fuel sources and ways to live a greener life can only help the world's population long-term.

        • Posted By: pbpace @ 06/30/2008 1:31:42 PM

          "Epic events that should only happen once every 500 years are happening every 15 years..." What 'epic' events are you referring to? We can agree or disagree but I'd like to see something more specific. "Monsoons, droughts...tornadoes--all are increasing. Look at the weather statistics...and you'll see an increase in these types of events." What weather statistics? Can you divulge your sources. I'm not trying to be an a**hole. I'd like to look at any web sites, books etc. you used for source material and judge for myself.

  • Posted By: Fazool @ 06/30/2008 9:48:16 AM

    It is amazing to me that the survey that is attached to this story still shows 2 of 3 respondents denying that global warming could be responsible. This is the first year in recorded history that there will be no ice at the north pole during the summer. That is a critical change in our world's climate. All weather on earth is created by the conveyor-like effects of oceanic currents. A primary player in those currents is water temperature. Disruption of those currents effects weather on a world-wide scale, and yet we choose to keep our heads in the sand and deny that it is happening. We will keep denying until there is nothing left of our planet but sand. Just Sayin'

    • Posted By: aztecman98 @ 06/30/2008 1:27:13 PM

      Right, no ice in the artic eh? That's why its bigger jow right? thats why the rockies have had record snowfall last winter. That's why 2007 was one of the coldest years in the last 75. if you really believe the predictions of Global warming nuts, just remember. When is the last time your local weatherman or the weather channel have been right about any forceast beyond 6 hours, let alone 6 months from now. So, go ahead be sheep, help the greenies make money with junk science. The next thing you know will be the EPA taxing all people in US for emitting a 'toxic gas' If the ultra whack have their way, that could soon be reality.

  • Posted By: LouisSnyder @ 06/30/2008 12:22:19 PM

    Even the most hardened critics must now see the problem, and begin to suspect the causes..


    Louis Snyder

    • Posted By: pbpace @ 06/30/2008 1:20:49 PM

      We get your point(s)...all seven of them. Unfortunately you don't explain yourself. What is the problem and what is the cause?

  • Posted By: wedspeed @ 06/30/2008 1:11:07 PM

    Comment: Global Warming? Yes, but only to a certain point. As long as the earth has the ability to shield certain portions of itself from the sun then those areas will stay cold.

    Man Made? Yes, but indirectly. Man has caused the Earth to become unbalanced and this has set off a chain of events that will continue to affect the Earth until it is rectified. The wobbling of the Earth and the shifting Poles will allow the sun to melt ice not normally exposed to the sun for long periods of time to remain exposed, thus not allowing it to refreeze resulting in a warmer climate.

    How has man caused the Earth to become unbalanced? Man has populated and built massive cities in areas without regard to the effects it has on a rotating mass.

    Can the Earth become balanced again? Yes, The Earth's crust is at this very moment giving way to the centrifugal force and breaking apart at its fault lines.

    Example: Place liquid in a hollow ball, spin on an axes.
    Result: Fluid inside the ball will spread out evenly until the ball is perfectly balanced.

    Historic Example: Earth was once hot and liquid; as the Earth cooled the outer crust hardened into a semi-balanced state and continued to take the shape we know today.

    Everyday Example: Remove the lead weights from the rims used to balance your car tires, drive your car at the speeds you normally drive.
    Result: The centrifugal force of your rotating tires will wobble violently until eventually your tires will fall apart or the balls joint holding your tires will break.

    How long will it take for the Earth to realign? According to scientists it initially took millions of years.

    Can we wait for millions of years? Sure, if we want to continually suffer the effects of the Earth trying to balance itself out.

    Can man speed up the process? Yes, Man could do the math and get the Earth back on track.

    Will man do this? No, Man will continue to blame this on nature using historical data. Also those in position of power and authority will never have the will power to take the hard road to rebalancing the Earth, too much rearranging involved.

    The physics of the planet will continue to do its thing until it is satisfied. Enjoy!


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