Global Warming Is a Cause of This Year’s Extreme Weather

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  • Posted By: VFW6986 @ 06/30/2008 9:44:51 AM


    BULL ****! I was in Africa in 96, Ghana, and visited a fort where slaves were held for shipment to the new world. My guide told me they were loaded directly on board ship through a certain dock on the fort. When I looked out the ocean beach was 50 yards away. How did they float a ship up here. If they had dug a channel
    then the people would have had to slide down the mast to get to the deck. The guide said the ocean was higher then, 1500. Really!!!!! Check it out. The climate was warm enough then for grapes to grow in Britain.
    So what happened. Climate cooled and water was locked up in ice at the poles, natural cycle. So buy your carbon credits if you want. I identify this as just another political scam like Y2K.
    Burt48

  • Posted By: wstephenjackson @ 06/29/2008 11:48:01 AM

    To unequivocally answer this question ???True???, seems to me almost as dangerous as to do the reverse as many conservatives seem to do. I have followed the science on this topic for some years as a reasonably well informed lay person (I hold a Masters degree in statistics, a familiarity with which is almost a requirement to wade through the numbers).

    Obviously the cost of making an error here is very high. Should the worst of the predictions about global warming come to pass, this represents calamity on an almost ???biblical??? scale. Unfortunately, our knowledge on the subject of climate prediction is still growing, is fairly new, and we find it necessary to deal with comparative measurements dating back many decades, long before the current accuracy of such measurements was possible.

    My concern is the use of this very serious subject to serve less noble purposes, such as using fear to gain grant money (my niece was recently at Columbia University; it happens) or the justification of political agendas or to force otherwise unwise social policy. While the cost of an error against this conclusion is high, the cost of accepting it blindly may be far higher than most realize.

    It would be quite possible to utterly undermine our standard of living in support of such a cause, only to find that the difference made is insignificant. For decades, we have worked to establish modern, industrialized societies in the rest of the world. We have succeeded in many respects, so that the number of high level consumers is growing from hundreds of millions to billions. Very soon what this nation does to combat global warning, real or not, will be insufficient. Let us be careful where we tread. There is more at stake than sea level.

    • Posted By: pbpace @ 06/30/2008 9:43:22 AM

      Well said! IMO, you've been the only poster so far (yours truly included) who's been able to capture the nuances of this issue! I also agree with your comment that a grasp of statistics is fundamental in understanding - or even beginning to comprehend- the data involved.

  • Posted By: M3000 @ 06/30/2008 9:37:30 AM

    When are we going to unite and really put forth an effort to resolve the issues. No body really wants to loose or give up their comfort zone. The fact is obvious that we are leaving the majority of the problem for future generations to resolve. The fact are our the population is growing and the land mass of this planet is the same. Present natural resources being used are limited and are not infinite. Waste products of the resources being used in the vast majority of our cases are toxic and detrimental to our health and our enviroment. Tell me when it will be appropiate to take significant measures and actions to justify changes that will contribute to the well being of humanity and the world that we live in. Do we have to wait until their is no time left and/or action that can save us from extinction? Or another World War for the survival of one nation or race due to shortages of natural resources and livable Lands? I know we need to be pracitable and we live in the present or now but for us as a human race or people to survive in the future we have to take responsability for our actions and attitudes in the present. I believe there is not enough evidence to know for sure how much we are contributing to global warming. But I know that this theme has shed some light on a lot of the problems that we are facing as a nation that if we do not focus as a nation on resolving them we might just end up in history as another Great Nation or Culture in somebody's elses history book.

  • Posted By: Engineer1027 @ 06/30/2008 8:56:29 AM

    All the evidence points to man-made climate change. Anyone who argues with this is simply in denial.

    • Posted By: pbpace @ 06/30/2008 9:34:18 AM

      Incorrect..."All the evidence points to man-made climate change. Anyonw who argues with this is simply in denial". You've made a blanket assertion on a very controversial topic. I am agnostic with regard to Human Induced Climate Change. I accept that it MIGHT be a valid proposition. Whatever our feelings on the issue we should all go back and research original source material. Reading this short, simplistic article, IMO, did not highlight the nuances and complexities of the debate.

  • Posted By: apollo23 @ 06/30/2008 9:32:14 AM

    Wow newsweek "We write the News we don't report it" show us facts not your opinions. This has become a political football one side against the other. Unless you can get accurate global temps for 1000's and 100,000 and millions years ago you don't know if this is a normal cycle. Sharon based on the comments I am seeing it appears your slanted story is wasted space. Is this the best Newsweek has maybe it is.

  • Posted By: dbigham13@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 9:30:52 AM

    This article was originally written and titled "Chicken Little", however once it was determined the name and story line had already been used a new title was found and the article was published. Next article will deal with presidential clothing tentative working title is "The Emperors New Clothes".

    The idea of global warming is another excuse to curtail freedom and give more power to our government.

  • Posted By: tkeeney@indy.rr.com @ 06/30/2008 9:30:14 AM

    It's the sun stupid!

  • Posted By: tkeeney@indy.rr.com @ 06/30/2008 9:29:39 AM

    It's the sun stupid!

  • Posted By: nixonjva @ 06/30/2008 9:24:46 AM

    As the argument over whether or not global warming is a cause of the planet's woes, the human population continues on it's viral course consuming resources without the thought of the future. Thinking that we can negotiate with the planet because we have opposable thumbs and the ability to speak is like two fleas fighting over who owns the dog.

    The planet may indeed continue to sustain our species for another 1,000 years or so, but once all the large fish are gone in the ocean, all the clean drinking water is gone, the air in unbreathable, all the petroleum based energy is consumed then what will the planet do? I believe it will throw up it's virtual hands and say "it was a great run, humans but I am all done. Hope you find another planet to live on. This one was supposed to sustain humans for millions of years, but you consumed everything in just under 10,000 years most in the last 200 years. Well done"

    The global warming argment rages on and the planet just dies a little more each day. On that note, HAVE A NICE DAY.

  • Posted By: couchbomb @ 06/30/2008 9:24:24 AM

    Wow, I didnt know there were so many climatologists. Everyobdy seems to know everything about everything. Get back to your job at the shell station. If anybody has a debate about how to inventory the twinkies, then well call you.

  • Posted By: relchet@aol.com @ 06/30/2008 9:22:50 AM

    It is a straight forward task to set up a statistical hypothesis test for whether these events are part of the "normal range" or whether they are a breakout from that range. It is not a matter to be decided based on personal recollection or editorial fervor.

  • Posted By: Richard49 @ 06/30/2008 9:21:44 AM

    "If we choose to believe in global warming and we are wrong" the worst that will happen is the globalist will succeed in bringing the U.S. under global law that will destroy our economy by transporting it to China and other countries that have no intention of being duped so easily. Al Gore, China's whore, has already made 100 million from this hoax. There is nothing wrong with working toward cleaning up our air and environment but getting trapped in treaties that surrender our sovereignty is stupidity.

  • Posted By: ndrock @ 06/30/2008 9:20:19 AM

    You bet these are man made disasters! If those levies had not be put there in the first place and the rivers left to their own flow these "disasters" would not be happening. The Corps of Engineers keep trying to "manage" the rivers in this country and all they are doing is creating more problems. I don't care how many generation have farmed the land made by man, it should never have been farmed in the first place. As for us being responsible for creating this mess though global warming, is nothing more than a cop out for the Corps of Engineers. They have been creating this problem for over 200 years, and now it's my fault by creating global warming...............BULLSHIT!!

  • Posted By: schratboy @ 06/30/2008 9:14:28 AM

    BS. Historic flood plains extend well-beyond the levees and other man-made barriers. If it rains more than the current systems (man-made) of locks and dams cannot handle the overage then flooding will occur. The addle-brained journalists love to stir the pot with all the global warming hype because it's sensational. Truth doesn't enter into the advertising-driven motivation for promoting global warming. It's all about profits!

  • Posted By: BrotherLou @ 06/30/2008 9:10:27 AM

    It stands to reason. The more energy you put into your kettle, via the stove, the more violent the agitation in the kettle. Of course its a lot more complex than that, but that's at the root of the syndrome. Bear in mind that we are not just going to see a gradual and gentle rise in the sea levels that will give us time to abandon and retreat, though even that is a catastrophic scenario. ALL the weather changes, including net tidal effects, are going to be more extreme, even extreme cold, paradoxical as that might seem.

    EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE MISSING THE POINT, even the thrust of this question is misplaced. The question is not whether it is man or nature responsible for the empirical FACT of global warming. The question is whether man's activities are sufficiently significant to moderate the looming disaster, REGARDLESS OF THE CAUSE! All the measurements the scientists have come up with point in that direction. This has not ever been denied. CAN WE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? That is the question. ... SEE?

  • Posted By: mooseNY @ 06/30/2008 9:08:49 AM

    What a leap! the author states it as fact and then says "some climatologists.." What was a 100 year storm based on/? 200 years of data, meaning 1 or 2 cycles? we hadn't settled the est prior to that! Can she state for a fact that it the years 1500 - 1700 no storms there occurred like what we saw? How about any time prior to 1500? The point is, we are trying to take 200 years of recorded data and applying it accross 1 million years! I guess we should attribute teh existance of the US to Gloabal Warming since the Ice Age once covered it? Did we put some factories on the ice a few thousand years ago and that caused the warming? We should do what we can, but lets not pretend you are working with Facts.

  • Posted By: mbeals @ 06/30/2008 9:01:39 AM

    False! But what I really was looking for was your coverage of voter fraud in Alabama. Apparently, the AG is investigaging your Democrat buddies. Better get overthere and tell them that it is really global warming that is at the root of it all.

  • Posted By: eric1969 @ 06/30/2008 8:58:52 AM

    We give ourselves way too much credit that we can influence the weather like the global warming crowd seems to believe. As I understand, I was a toddler at the time, but in the 70's the general consensus was that the earth was cooling and there was a fear of the next ice age. Perhaps the global warming that we are seeing, and it may very well be happening, is a natural cycle of the earth, not one caused because you used incandescent bulbs instead of fluorescent. (Fluorescents are actually a hazard to the landfills - MERCURY in the bulb) My fear is that when the earth begins to cool (and it will naturally), the Al Gore's of the world will stand up to receive their 2nd bogus Nobel peace prize for saving the planet. I heard the storms and tornadoes in the midwest were actually caused because it was cooler than normal (how does that fit the global warming template!) in the north and that was causing a larger temperature difference between the 2 fronts causing unusually severe storms. Most of the warming predictions are set up on faulty models and assume that we knew what the ocean temps were one thousand years ago. We only have info maybe as far back as 1900 so to make huge assumptions on such a small sample is bad science. In actuality some of the warmest years in the past 100 occurred in the 1930's. Doesn't fit the template either does it?

  • Posted By: eric1969 @ 06/30/2008 8:57:58 AM

    We give ourselves way too much credit that we can influence the weather like the global warming crowd seems to believe. As I understand, I was a toddler at the time, but in the 70's the general consensus was that the earth was cooling and there was a fear of the next ice age. Perhaps the global warming that we are seeing, and it may very well be happening, is a natural cycle of the earth, not one caused because you used incandescent bulbs instead of fluorescent. (Fluorescents are actually a hazard to the landfills - MERCURY in the bulb) My fear is that when the earth begins to cool (and it will naturally), the Al Gore's of the world will stand up to receive their 2nd bogus Nobel peace prize for saving the planet. I heard the storms and tornadoes in the midwest were actually caused because it was cooler than normal (how does that fit the global warming template!) in the north and that was causing a larger temperature difference between the 2 fronts causing unusually severe storms. Most of the warming predictions are set up on faulty models and assume that we knew what the ocean temps were one thousand years ago. We only have info maybe as far back as 1900 so to make huge assumptions on such a small sample is bad science. In actuality some of the warmest years in the past 100 occurred in the 1930's. Doesn't fit the template either does it?

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