The Obese Should Have to Pay More For Airline Tickets

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  • Posted By: freezing @ 12/22/2008 10:17:57 AM

    Yes, the obese should pay more. It is already uncomfortable on a plane to have to share your seat with half of someone else. And then they will pull out they're 20 pound bag of goodies for the ride. I am tired of all the obese problems. Just put down the fork. No one needs to eat 20 pounds of food at one meal. Just say no!

  • Posted By: HulaB @ 12/22/2008 9:42:28 AM

    If we start down the road of increasing healthcare for those that are obese, then we should move towards increasing the same for those that drink more than a glass of wine a day and smokers. How about those long distance runners that damage thier feet and legs and backs from running? Families that have more than three children? Where will it stop?

  • Posted By: michiganwoman @ 12/21/2008 9:02:01 PM

    i understand that it is hard for some people to maintain a healthy weight. i myself only weigh 100lbs. it seems to me that every time i fly they seat me next to the heaviest person on the plane. i wouldn't mind if that person wasn't sitting on half of my seat. if they are sitting on half of my seat, they should pay half of my airfare. if you cannot fit between the armrests of your own seat, you should purchase 2 seats.

  • Posted By: michiganwoman @ 12/21/2008 9:00:38 PM

    i understand that it is hard for some people to maintain a healthy weight. i myself only weigh 100lbs. it seems to me that every time i fly they seat me next to the heaviest person on the plane. i wouldn't mind if that person wasn't sitting on half of my seat. if they are sitting on half of my seat, they should pay half of my airfare. if you cannot fit between the armrests of your own seat, you should purchase 2 seats.

  • Posted By: ievita@aol.com @ 06/30/2008 2:25:52 PM

    Couldn???t the airport check-in counter place a scale on the spot where people stand when checking in, allowing the agent to register the weight automatically?
    It is clear that it would be extremely difficult to sell fare by weight; after all, most tickets are probably sold online, though it could somehow be adjusted at the airport, like they do when weighing our luggage during check-in. The per-weight fee should also be reasonable to a person???s height with exceptions for pregnancies (I wonder how many would want to make their unfitness pass as pregnancy?!?!?).

    I used to be 100+ overweight, and am now within the normal/healthy range (yay for me!), maintaining it for several years. One of the issues that prompted me to loose weight was the embarrassment of spilling over into someone else's personal space in planes, trains and cars. I knew I was making others uncomfortable. Loosing weight is very hard, but it is possible. It is much easier to manage ones weight and never let it get out of hand. But, I digress???

    While it is true that obesity can be genetic, genes do not make someone 300+ lbs. Genes make you more likely to store fat, make you less inclined to an active lifestyle; make you more likely to crave certain foods, etc. People still need to control what they eat and their activity levels. Most cases of obesity are simple cases of personal irresponsibility: adults making the wrong choices about what to eat, drink and how much to exercise.

    I agree that people should pay according to their choices. If I want to carry more weight in public transportation, weather in my luggage or on my body, I should pay more that those that choose to carry less. Just like we pay +/- for other shipping costs based on weight. By the way, some health insurers charge a premium to smokers because they choose to smoke and are a higher risk. Why not the same with morbidly obese folks? With some exceptions, morbidly obese people choose to be unhealthily heavy. Why should others pay? Fair is fair.

    Yes, muscle is heavier than fat, but still, I think a 300-body builder should pay more than those that maintain a reasonably normal BMI. I do not want anyone spilling over onto my seat and I don???t think I should subsidize their extra cost to public transportation, body-builder or not.

    • Posted By: FATKATNPROUD @ 11/14/2008 10:31:19 PM

      You have a great point. I for one have had a very hard time my whole life with my weight. I was really embarrassed one day when I could not fit on a rollercoaster seat....Well I fit but I needed help getting back out. So I know all too well what people feel like about the narrow small seats on the airlines. I agree for paying the two seat fare if I am taking up that much room. But being told that I am lazy and disguisting is just not fair. I wish I could get it under control. But it is hopeless. So to all of you that think I am disgusting please just look the other way, you have no idea how I got here.

  • Posted By: JustJim @ 06/28/2008 11:13:12 PM

    I know a lot of fat people--anymore, one can't know a lot of people without knowing a lot of fat people. Virtually, everyone of them will tell you of their "medical condition" which causes him or her to be fat while cramming Ho-Ho's in his or her mouth! It's a simple formula: if calories consumed don't equal calories burned, then the person gets fat (and many of my acquaintances would have to lose weight to qualify as merely fat!). Worse, the children of fat people seem to eat just like the parents, resulting in equally fat or obese children. By and large, fat people are lazy, sloppy, self-indulgent people who rejoice at the motorized shopping carts at the local WallyWorld which allows them to skip even basic exercise. I weigh more than I should, and I'm quite conscious of that, but I'm working on itl So, yes, fat people should pay more for airline tickets, health insurance--no questions asked. Otherwise, the question becomes: should normal-sized people be forced to subsidize lazy, fat people? As for the genetics component, yes, there is one in a way--when children watch their parents eating like pigs and never exercisizing, then, the children also shove their snouts into the trough and then retire to the television set. More environment than genetics, I should think.

    • Posted By: FATKATNPROUD @ 11/14/2008 4:17:17 PM

      Jim if I saw u on a plane. I would show u how much of a pig I am. I would bypass the second seat and just sit on u.

  • Posted By: Borlock @ 07/08/2008 3:44:19 PM

    Hotels should also be charging fat people more to stay since they use more soap.

    • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:30:40 PM

      thats a little extreme they don't actually. its just how long it takes them and I'm not fat

      • Posted By: FATKATNPROUD @ 11/14/2008 4:07:00 PM

        U shallow minded nit!!! I bring my own soap!!! Yes FAT PPL SHOWER!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: SorenM @ 07/30/2008 5:36:24 AM

    The true "cost" to the airline of transferring someone is their total weight - thus, the if implemented the ticket cost should depend on the combined cost of the passenger AND their luggage.

    • Posted By: FATKATNPROUD @ 11/14/2008 2:18:28 PM

      You people are amazing. You act as tho. I for instance. I am sure I wouldn't fit into a 20" seat. as my waist alone is 45". You people act as if I purposeful go to McDonald and shove 5 BigMacs in my mouth to get big n fat so that I can purposely make soome skinny minnie on the plane uncomfortable. PLEASE GET A LIFE PEOPLE!!!!! I am fat or "OBESE" and I hate it. I have struggled with it since I was 13 years old. If you think i choose to be this way I get to differ.

  • Posted By: Mahalo @ 07/30/2008 4:30:32 PM

    This is not an issue of discrimination, it's a societal issue that has gotten out of hand. First, if you cannot fit into one seat, you should buy a second seat. It is only fair to the person sitting next to you. You should not be allowed to infringe on their paid space. Plain and simple. Second, as airlines keep tightening the space, there should be a minimum allowed so they cannot tighten it more to increase revenues unfairly. The airline industry and consumers must come to a consensus first of what is allowable - say, 20", and then stick to it. Then, beyond that, if a consumer cannot fit into that space (just like with bags), you must buy a second seat. I cannot tell you the countless times I have seen people pre-boarding as if they have a disability who are overweight, only to later see them walking elsewhere. Today, obesity is an epedemic. There are people with health issues, but they are truly a very rare minority. Have you been in a restaurant or a fast food place and seen the so-called "medical condition" obsese ordering and eating? I am sure you have and can tell you that the majority is not medical. Have you been to a buffet-style restaurant? I have, and again, you see the parents and their children eating what is not healthy food for their weight situation, and these are the very people who are flying and complaining that they have "health issues" controlling their weight. However, it is what they are putting in their mouths, where they are parking their cars in lieu of walking, riding around in hte grocery stores in motorized carts, etc. They are not trying to reduce their weight or that of their family - you can see it. Yes, there are the legitimate people who have health issues, but that would be less than 10% of the population, I guarantee you. Even then, there is no reason for them to infringe on others space, it is not comfortable for them or for others. If they can produce a doctor's note stating a medical reason, then they can pay half-price for their seat - or there can be a row of larger seats for medically proven people. But the rest, they have to buy seats. I am very sick of a society of complacent people blaming everyone else (be it the menu at Burger King, the larger portions, etc.) for their problems. I am not obese - I am tempted by a lot of food, but I control my portions. I cannot eat anything I want, I have self control and do not want to be in that position. I take pride in myself and my family, and care about my health. Those who don't, should pay up. We should not have to pay for others bad choices while we make the right ones. That is simply not discrimination, it's called common sense.

    • Posted By: FATKATNPROUD @ 11/14/2008 2:12:03 PM

      20" ???? Oh my. I am a size 16 and I wouldn't be able to fit into that space. I think the size of seats should be a little more realistic don't you think. I mean. We do have a bigger size population these days. so why not accommodate the majority. Lord knows, the prices keep going up. The airlines will still get their money.

  • Posted By: thought about it??? @ 11/13/2008 1:37:06 PM

    I weight 115 and with 55 lbs bag limit. Why should a 300 lbs person with 55 lbs not pay more? Have you ever sat next to one? They "spill" into your seat and try to take the arm rest up so they have more room. They get seat belt extenders. Are they safe to climb over in case of a crach. Has the FAA ever thought of that issue?

  • Posted By: tbfairfield @ 11/06/2008 9:18:24 AM

    Fat people should pay more-I do for my bags. I have had many flights where I was stuck next to a fat person with no where to go in my seat, I'm sorry, if I don't know you, I surely don't want your body pressing against mine for 3 hours. I payed for my seat and I want my space.

  • Posted By: ZekeB @ 10/01/2008 3:07:32 AM

    I agree, I have to buy four full priced tickets to fly me, my wife, and my two boys (5 and 3) across the country. Our combined total weight is under 400lbs, that's only 100lbs/ticket, or somewhere around $5 per pound. Now with additional baggage restrictions and charges it is getting absurd, yet someone that weighs what we all do combined can, in some cases, only buy one seat and get the same treatement we do.

    Who is really being discriminated against?

  • Posted By: TomBrooklyn @ 07/31/2008 10:46:46 PM

    Don't airlines limit the weight of baggage a person may bring? What would be fairer is to limit the combined weight of passenger and baggage.

  • Posted By: TomBrooklyn @ 07/31/2008 10:44:23 PM

    Don't airlines put a limit on baggage weight? What would be more fair is putting a limit on combined weight of a person with their baggage, with a surcharge attached for overages. I weight 275 barefoot.

  • Posted By: kshortSD @ 07/02/2008 4:09:44 PM

    Well, the idea of charging obese passengers a higher fees is pretty silly (even if you consider that they cost the airline more in fuel), but what about the idea of higher health insurance premiums for the obese? I would like to see some folks be required to pay more for their insurance if their lifestyle has contributed to more health issues, especially if my rates will go down because I eat healthy and work out.

    • Posted By: NickiDrea @ 07/29/2008 10:27:18 AM

      OK, but I bet people would have a heart attack if we also started raising health insurance for:

      (1) Smokers
      2) Thin people who eat like pigs and refuse to work out because they are "already thin"

      After all, smoking causes all sorts of health problems. A smoker with cancer would certainly cost an insurance company more than a fat person would. And thin people who eat junk have the exact same problems as fat people who do. So we'll just charge everyone who lives a dangerous lifestyle. Let's include people with stressful jobs in there too (stress often leads to physical problems, even strokes and heart attacks).

      If we're gonna do this, let's be fair.

      • Posted By: kittymalicious @ 07/30/2008 4:07:53 AM

        Keep in mind that we're human--life's not fair. For point 1, have you never heard of the federal cigarette excise tax? It collects around $2 billion a year, I think. As for point 2, well sometimes people have better genes than others of us and we really can't control whether it works positively or negatively against us. I have crappy eyesight. Because of that, I have to pay every year for glasses and contacts. Incidentally, people with the genes for perfect eye sight get to forgo those costs, even if they do horrible things like squint and read in the dark all the time. It's not fair, but larger people should suck it up and pay what they have to for taking up more room and gas on flights.

        • Posted By: MSEJ1980 @ 07/31/2008 1:24:00 PM

          Oh please. You people are ridiculous. Heavier people DO PAY MORE for health insurance. As much as smokers do. And, people can be refused health insurance because of their weight. And there is no exceptions with some companies.

      • Posted By: justthefactsma'am @ 07/31/2008 1:22:47 AM

        Obviously, you've never applied for individual insurance. As a former smoker, I can tell you from experience you will pay close to TRIPLE for individual long term insurance. PS despite being "genetically disposed" to nicotine addiction, I did quit.

  • Posted By: slimpundit @ 07/31/2008 5:00:36 AM

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  • Posted By: KEEKA237 @ 07/31/2008 3:19:46 AM

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  • Posted By: KEEKA237 @ 07/31/2008 3:19:41 AM

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  • Posted By: KEEKA237 @ 07/31/2008 3:19:38 AM

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