The Obese Should Have to Pay More For Airline Tickets

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  • Posted By: skeptikos @ 06/29/2008 12:18:56 AM

    Is being fat really genetic. Some cases may be genetic but all cannot be. It must have much to do with eating habits particularly in the young ages. It is difficult to shed it once it has been aquired. If in the present age there are more fat persons it means it is due to present day life styles. Particularly eating habits. So there is nothing wrong if airlines charge more or insurers charge more premium due to a perceived risk factor.

    • Posted By: sinbot @ 07/30/2008 2:35:09 AM

      There's very little genetic about it. We all have the same genes that can make us fat. We by-and-large share the same genes as our hunter-gatherer ancestors. we share the same genes between fat and health people. People get fat primarily to not exercising. If someone wants to lose weight they should stop eating crap food and get int a boxing program or go work an oil field. Somethin that will actually make them exert themselves.

  • Posted By: popler @ 07/07/2008 11:05:40 AM

    I don't think its fair because there normal people not aliens

    • Posted By: sinbot @ 07/30/2008 2:29:40 AM

      They may be normal people but as in their own cars, on a plane they cost more per mile. Not charging them more means my ticket subsidizes their fuel costs.

    • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:31:48 PM

      they chose to be fatso it is their fault unless they have a disease

  • Posted By: Tacocat27 @ 07/29/2008 2:55:18 PM

    I think some people are missing the point and viewing this as an outright attack on overweight individuals. Somebody below said it best, I pay for my seat thus it is my seat, if somebody who is overweight takes up a portion of my seat, its not fair to me, its almost as if I am paying a portion of their fare. This is not an attack on the overweight, do I care that you are fat? Heck no! If you enjoy your body the way it is, then more power to you, but you have to understand that there may be instances where your weight can be troublesome to others. I am a business consultant, my life is lived on a plane...most times I'm on a plane at least twice a week and I can honestly say I absolutely hate being sat next to the obese. Not because they "gross me out", not because I find their lack of control offensive, but because they are for lack of a better term "invading my space" space I paid for, space that is rightfully mine. If you require two seats then yes, you should pay for them. Just out of curiousity are there any overweight people out there that think its justifiable for airlines to make you pay for two seats? I would like to see your side of the issue.

  • Posted By: NickiDrea @ 07/29/2008 10:19:46 AM

    I don't know what to say about this. I recently went to the doctor and found out that I am "obese," despite the fact that I NEVER (and I mean NEVER) eat fast food, and I go to the gym four times a week- I do an hour of cardio, then pilates, then weightlifting. I have never been a small girl and I never will be- I'm not making excuses, it's my body shape and I've always been very curvy and not thin. For example, in high school I was a lacrosse player and a cheerleader and I still weighed in at 165 at 5'4. I was, however, ridiculously fit and healthy back then, I could run an 8-minute mile. I am shaped like the women on my dad's side of the family- we are all very curvy and we are not small women.

    As an adult, I fit in airline seats and on bus seats just fine, I don't squash anyone. So I would find it a little ridiculous if I had to pay more money for my seat, when I actually take care of myself and exercise, than a skinny person who eats like a pig and is just lucky to be thin. The lowest weight that I could be and still be healthy and look good is like 165- and if I weighed that I would STILL be considered overweight. Sometimes it just seems like I can't win! That being said, other than losing a few pounds, I wouldn't really change anything about my body. Women pay thousands for fake breasts SMALLER than my natural ones, and I have ridiculous curves. But it still sucks to think I might have to pay more than some lazy skinny person just because I weigh more than they do.

  • Posted By: NickiDrea @ 07/29/2008 10:19:22 AM

    I don't know what to say about this. I recently went to the doctor and found out that I am "obese," despite the fact that I NEVER (and I mean NEVER) eat fast food, and I go to the gym four times a week- I do an hour of cardio, then pilates, then weightlifting. I have never been a small girl and I never will be- I'm not making excuses, it's my body shape and I've always been very curvy and not thin. For example, in high school I was a lacrosse player and a cheerleader and I still weighed in at 165 at 5'4. I was, however, ridiculously fit and healthy back then, I could run an 8-minute mile. I am shaped like the women on my dad's side of the family- we are all very curvy and we are not small women.

    As an adult, I fit in airline seats and on bus seats just fine, I don't squash anyone. So I would find it a little ridiculous if I had to pay more money for my seat, when I actually take care of myself and exercise, than a skinny person who eats like a pig and is just lucky to be thin. The lowest weight that I could be and still be healthy and look good is like 165- and if I weighed that I would STILL be considered overweight. Sometimes it just seems like I can't win! That being said, other than losing a few pounds, I wouldn't really change anything about my body. Women pay thousands for fake breasts SMALLER than my natural ones, and I have ridiculous curves. But it still sucks to think I might have to pay more than some lazy skinny person just because I weigh more than they do.

  • Posted By: bigskylady @ 06/30/2008 2:29:26 PM

    Holy cow! Talk about discrimination! How about charging tall people more because they take up more room? Or better yet, lets just start charging by the pound...its just about as ridiculous. I really believe the airlines are taking this too far....charges for food, luggage, security, and multiple surcharges all on top of already unreasonably high ticket fees. What's next.... oxygen?

    • Posted By: kshortSD @ 07/03/2008 5:43:15 PM

      Tall people can't help that they are tall.

      • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:39:42 PM

        i completely agree its not our fault

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/01/2008 9:30:48 AM

    Don't breed for basketball players. Breed for a cheap ride. It's more sensible. Make little people. Up with small and down with tall.

    • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:38:05 PM

      sorry not going to happen

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/10/2008 3:57:16 AM

      Olderwiser,
      remember the song about SHORT PEOPLE? I was short and hated that song. Under your plan and several others here I could come out pretty well for once in my life. Pay for the ticket by the pound and I'm doing great...

  • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 07/01/2008 4:32:27 PM

    We should also charge smelly people for the inconvenience of their stench - both body odor and perfume/cologne stench.

    We should charge ugly people for the inconvenience of having to try not to look at them.

    We should charge people with kids for the noise and rowdiness.

    We should charge sick people for the inconvenience of having to hear them cough and sneeze.

    We should charge tall people for the inconvenience of their legs bumping our seats and their heads being in the way.

    Smokers are already persecuted more than anyone else, so they should get a discount, or at least free booze to cope with the cravings.

    • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:35:17 PM

      you are so racist show a little respect to some people

  • Posted By: dmrunique @ 07/25/2008 2:11:10 PM

    If you can prove that you have a medical condition that is causing you to be obese, you should be able to get a waiver from a doctor saying so and not have to pay the extra fee. BUT, you should still be required to have two seats. Let your insurance pay for the other one. Honestly, there are so few actual instances of people who truly are obese due to medical reasons, it is mind boggling. MOST people who are obese are that way due to food addictions and lack of motivation to exercise or eat well.

    America is becoming a nation of HUGE, overweight, sickly, sedentary slugs. It is nauseating. Honestly, how have we sunk so low in the past 30 year? It is an epidemic and making excuses or being an enabler is NOT the solution.

    • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:28:22 PM

      I completely agree with you

  • Posted By: 1717 @ 07/27/2008 6:19:28 PM

    I think the obese should pay for 2 seats because its a choice they made to be fat. No normal person wants 1/2 a seat and squished while the fat can relax and enjoy the plane ride its just not fair. Are we being punished for being healthy?

  • Posted By: pbbdd @ 07/19/2008 12:44:56 PM

    I have a friend who is very large due to a rare illness and the medication he must take for it. He took it upon himself to only travel in first class, which he cannot afford, out of consideration for those who must sit next to
    him. It's not a luxury. It's a financial hardship. But he knows there is more room for his fellow travelers if he sits where there is more room. He cannot help his size anymore than can a pregnant woman. The
    assumption that all large people are lazy and should be docked for it is erroneous and hurtful. I think the excess baggage the airlines should be cutting or charging extra for is luggage....like titanium golf club cases.

  • Posted By: oiuser1 @ 07/17/2008 7:11:49 PM

    I think people and their bags should have to weigh together. There could be a limit set for weight of passenger and bags en toto and if it's over a certain amount they pay an extra fee. It bugs the heck out of me that when my husband and I traveled recently (UAL) the agent at our initial boarding site (DSM) made such a HUGE deal out of the following: My checked bag weighed 52#. My husband's checked bag weighed 47# -- and so we were told to move items from one to the other to equal the allotted 50# per bag (unless we paid the extra fee). After reorganizing we still didn't meet the EXACT #50 -- mine was 50.5#, my husband's 49.5# -- the agent made a BIG DEAL out of "let[ting] it go THIS TIME but I'm not supposed to." At the very next check-in kiosk was a man who EASILY weighed 350-400# checking in with his bag and who was allotted the SAME 50# bag. Nobody made a big deal about his weight (and I was glad not to be seated next to him!) but my total combined weight (bags and person) would equal about 175#. You tell me what's fair about this! Who 'cost' the airlines more avgas??? Set a limit--275# or whatever for everything going on a plane under the name of ONE passenger. If you're over by 1# you pay extra.

  • Posted By: Equestrian_girl101 @ 07/15/2008 11:34:46 AM

    I think Fatso's should have to pay more because I should not hove to suffer because they chose to eat 500 big macs and 800 large fries. Why should I have to let them slop there big nasty belly on me and my stuff And then watch them scarf down the airline meals ? I pay for my seat on the plane and a big obese person has NO right to take up half of the seat i payed for! So Fatties can buy two seats, lose weight, or get off the plane!

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/29/2008 4:45:11 PM

    And EE7011, pregnant people only have to pay for their pre-pregnant weight. No sweat. Baby rides free.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/10/2008 4:16:06 AM

      NO FREE RIDES! BABY PAYS TOO!
      just kidding:)

  • Posted By: PHILLIF @ 06/30/2008 10:28:14 AM

    Muscle weighs more than fat.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/10/2008 4:10:59 AM

      no it doesn't !
      A pound of fat= a pound of muscle.
      I'm a nurse but you don't have to be smarter than a 5th grader to know that a pound is a pound is a pound.

  • Posted By: Simptimatik @ 06/30/2008 3:14:03 PM

    While we're at it, why don't we put a medically-certified weight section on the 1040 income tax form? Because fat people are going to be putting more stress on the roads when they drive as well, with their weight. Oh, but then also remember to report on your taxes what kind of a car you drive - I think people who drive mammoth SUVs and pickup trucks and have yachts should DEFINITELY pay more taxes, since they tear up the roads more, too, leading to more repairs...

    While we're at it, I'd like to have all of you report on your tax forms if you have been vaccinated against measles, mumps, Rubella, chicken pox, polio, if you receive a flu vaccine every year as is recommended, etc. because you people getting these communicable diseases every year is what makes my health insurance go up.

    Please, also, if you are a meat eater, please report this as well and be penalized $x more dollars a year - after all, the methane from the animals you are eating is polluting my air and you should be made to pay.

    Anyone with children should be penalized BIG TIME. The more kids you have, the more you should be penalized, as your rugrats are the ones who are perpetuating crime, drug use, health issues, and teenage pregnancies to produce more brats, and I am paying out the nose for your and your children's mistakes! Plus I'm being taxed a school tax for my district for educating your monsters, and I really don't care if this society becomes totally illiterate.

    You skinny people, don't think that you're getting away with anything. Are you yo-yo dieting? Can you provie that you're NOT bulimic or anorexic? Well then, I think you should end up paying more as well, since your increased risk of heart attack, anorexia, and dental problems is delaying the time I have to spend sitting in the emergency room waiting my turn while you sorry asses diet yourselves into disease.

    Everyone should have their IQ tested and be tracked and charged accordingly for that as well. Fees should be charged on a sliding scale once you go below 125 IQ points. God knows I don't want to pay any more than I have to to keep you morons out of trouble. Too many of you blithering idiots are keeping vicious pets and accidentally sawing your limbs off while gardening.

    While I am living my perfect, flawless, vegan, green life with my model's body and my 150 IQ on my deserted island, you all can hash out just what it means to be human beings who are supposed to be helping each other and having compassion for each other's foibles instead of being the petty, sniping, self-absorbed, selfish money-worshippers that our species seems to have become.

    Aloha!

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/10/2008 4:05:16 AM

      Aloha,
      very good post. Just a suggestion tho....you might want to reconsider your position on the society becoming illiterate because you and I will hopefully live to become very old, unfortunately due to our advanced age we might need to see a doctor and personally I hope that he/she can spell well enough to write the correct drug name on the prescription pad and I hope tha pharmacist can read well enough to put the correct pills in the little pill container. just my opinion:)

  • Posted By: jane.simpson.wilson @ 07/01/2008 5:33:25 PM

    Phuleeze...I'm no overweight, but I am 5'11. At my weight (repectable for a woman of my age) It's hard for me to fit into the 17 inches that are allowed in coach. And where I am supposed to put my legs. That's why I always sit in the exit aisle. Next, you;ll be whining about the Vertically Challanged having to pay a surcharge as well. Give me a break. We should charge the righteous who believe that everyone but YOU should be surcharged because you are so very special. If you don't like it, upgrade to First Class where all of the seats and comfy coxy and you can drink your way out of your obession with people who have the unfortunate stigma of being overweight..

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/10/2008 3:53:13 AM

      I heard today that one airline is considering charging more for premium seats (note this is not 1st class but in coach) such as those by the exits and those in the center and those by windows. So if you need that leg room you would have to pay more to fit your legs in. Also heard that they are considering eliminating the coffee machine on board , weighs about 500lbs, to save fuel. The days of the luxury airliner is over it's just a greyhopund bus with wings instead of wheels.

  • Posted By: Simptimatik @ 06/30/2008 3:32:26 PM

    News Alert:

    Effective immediately, the federal government will now include the following required fields on IRS income tax returns. State governments will also be following suit shortly:

    -Medically-certified weight section to charge fat people more since they tear up the freeways, requiring costly repairs. Also, if you are underweight and cannot prove you are NOT yo-yo dieting, you will be charged more since our national health care costs for anorexia, heart attacks, and dental care are increasing due to you.

    -Make and model of your vehicle. You SUV and pickup drivers are tearing up the crap out of our roads as well, and we'll need you to pay more.

    -Medically-certified vaccination records, because people getting these communicable diseases every year is helping to increase health care costs.

    -If you eat meat and how frequently, since the EPA has to pay for environmental cleanup due to the animal waste your "meals" incur.

    -Number of children. Right, you already report this, but from now on you're getting charged for it, since your brats perpetuate more overpopulation with their teenage pregnancies, drive drunk, commit crimes, and are basically nogoodniks.

    -Intelligence Quotient. You poor dumb people will of course pay more for your decreased intelligence that puts the rest of us at risk - unless you can prove that your stupidity is due to a medical condition.

    While I am living my perfect, flawless life with my model's body and my 150 IQ on my deserted island, you all can hash out just what it means to be human beings who are meant to be helping each other and having compassion for each other's foibles instead of being the petty, sniping, self-absorbed, selfish money-worshippers that our species seems to have become.

    • Posted By: Kallie @ 07/09/2008 7:05:44 PM

      OMG, this post is the funniest thing I have read on the Internet this year. Thanks for the laugh!

      Unfortunately, the narrow-minded bigots won't get it....

  • Posted By: derby83 @ 07/03/2008 12:37:47 PM

    Why don' t we just accomplish this by providing discounts to lighter people. That way it is a skinny discount and not a Fat tax which comes across as much easier to swallow. Those who want to try to get a discount would be the only ones effected. Young people and adult men and women under a predetemined threshold would get a discount.

    • Posted By: jane.simpson.wilson @ 07/09/2008 3:23:51 PM

      You two make me sick, what is light enough for you, a size 2? 97lbs and 5 feet tall as well? Let's just make a new class on each Flight. The really, really good looking, thin and tiny class. And guess what, you get to ride in the overhead bins, so none of us have to look at you. SNAP.

    • Posted By: kshortSD @ 07/03/2008 3:04:16 PM

      That's actually a pretty good idea. It turns the idea into a positive notion rather than negative, and turns the benefit into an incentive rather than to be perceived as punishment or discrimination. Works for me...

  • Posted By: kios123 @ 07/07/2008 11:07:04 AM

    I think they should pay like everyone else what were to happen if you got fat and you were to pay more money then you have think would you want to pay more then what you want.

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