I think people should have to pay for how much they weight because the more you weight the more gas is used
I think people should have to pay for how much they weight because the more you weight the more gas is used
Why should some people pay more then others.. yes i know that gas is ALOT now these days but... The Real Question should be, "What is the right weight for a person?".
Why should some people pay more then others.. yes i know that gas is ALOT now these days but... The Real Question should be, "What is the right weight for a person?".
AYE ThiS YOUR GiRL KEiSHABOO..
I THiNK iTS RiGHT FOR THEM TO PAY BECAUSE THERE TAKEiNG UP MORE SAETS THEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE UP SO FAT PEOPLE LOSE SOME WEiHGT IF U HAVE TO..
Yea i think that the bigger people should have to pay more if they gotta move the armrest just so they can have more room cause then they are in the other person space so they should have to pay more money huh
i think it is not fair to the obese people to pay more when we already have to pay a lot anyway so the price should stay the same for every one!
AYE THiS YOUR GiRL MYRiYONBOO..
FAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE THATS CAUSEiNG THEM TO HAVE LESS SEATS THEN THAT MEANS THAT LESS PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ON THAT PLANE SO THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER ONE TO COME. ITS NOT RiGHT TO WASTE SEATS FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
Mr. Adler has obviously never shared elljaye's experience or he would have reached a different conclusion. However, I'm surprised that elljaye was inconvenienced because Southwest policy is to charge an extra fare for such people unless the flight isn't full.An airline ticket entitles the passenger to the space between two armrests and no more. Regardless of the reason/cause for a person's obesity they are not entitled to encroach on the space of others. If they don't fit between the armrests then they should pay for the extra seat!
I had heard of Southwest's policy before, but how would they know if you actually need two seats until you show up? I kinda doubt that many obese people would say when booking their flight "by the way, I'm obese and need to buy two seats" I have shared 3 seats with one other large person before , when the flight was not full, but on the the occaision of the said incident, the flight was full. Would the flight attendant say to them "pay up or get off" I think this would create an uncomfortable situation that no one would want to encounter. I think the flight attendants would rather not deal with the situation. Since I did not complain- I'm the type to just accept my fate and wait to get it over with since there does not appear to be a solution, they chose to ignore it. They did, however seem to to find ways to make my situation worse. ( A sadistic lean on their part, or just plain apathy?)
I know what. For those who are not at fault for being heavier than others, we could have the "no fault fat" system. Those who are at fault for being obese have to pay by the pound, but those who are obese because of some reason than voracity can get a regular ticket for a normal weight. Probably ought to just add a department to Homeland Security for this. Just after you put your shoes, belts and brassieres on beyond the security checkpoint, there is a scale and a government physician-psychiatrist who interviews each passenger who is over the weight limit for the passenger height. Tall and skinny people are easily exempted. No need to applaud, tall people, you are off the weight hook. Then, those with thyroid irregularities and whatever else causes weight gain without fault are let off. The rest the ultra heavy have to cough up extra dough to fly away.
We are noted for our enterprise in this country, and it is inevitable that a laxative concession will appear at the restrooms near your flight gate for those who are just over the line, and couldn't sweat off enough at home just before leaving for the airport.
One should not have to pay for us to haul fat that accumulates without the fault of its owner, and by the same token, innocent passengers should not have to pay to haul all of the "pleasure fat" that accumulates on some of the hogs whose loose fat is just about to spill over your armrest.
Look at it this way. If we would all concentrate on breeding down to three feet tall and 48 pounds apiece, the world could hold many more of us. All conveyances could be reduced in size so that there would be enough petroleum left to last forever. Bush could have started on this eight years ago. But he just sat around and played with his hobby horse and cap pistols. Presidents just don't have the originality they used to have in the old days.
When it comes to an airplane getting off of the ground weight matters. So I agree that people should be charged per the weight they brong with them. I don't care if its muscle,, fat, or luggage. Others should not have to pay more for flights because some choose to bring 5 carry ons, while other choose to (yup) you got it right 'eat their way to obisity. I know I'm going to get all sort of horrible responses, but I know I'm right. Genetic argument has nothing to do with this article! BTW I happen to really have a thyroid problem runs in the family. I have to take pills for the rest of my life but this still has nothing to do with weight and lifting it up in the air. I happen to be at a normal weight and I struggle daily to maintain it. Even with genetic leaning towards obisity this alone does not make you fat- stuffing your face with empty calories and burnning way less that you consume does.
Since the only reason we're really debating this issue is because smaller people are being crowded out of their seats by larger people, it actually has nothing to do with a person's weight. Some one who is 6'-3" tall and weighs 250 lbs. is alot less of an issue than someone 5'-3" and weighing 250 lbs. I think that airlines should have a cutoff point on the waist size of the traveler. (waist size is easy to measure, so no public embaressment unless you lie and want the airport to measure you) If they took out some normal seats and replaced those with wider seats that would cost more and be reserved for the larger folks, everyone would be comfortable.
My husband is a pilot. When we go someplace together we generally rent a small (2-4 seat) airplane. With a full tank of fuel many of these aircraft can only usefully lift another 500-700 lbs. So in order to get where we are going he has to account for our weight as well as any luggage.
The same holds true for airliners. As it is now, the pilot gets a head count of ppl on the plane, multiplies that by a guess of the average american weight and adds that to the luggage and fuel. Thus he guesses the load on the airframe. Now if the actual average wieght of the passengers is actually 30 lbs higher than his estimate, there may be an extra 1500-3000+ lbs of weight on the plane. Not only does this mean the plane will burn fuel faster than the pilot may expect, but it can be the difference in getting off the ground or not.
Although I am one who would be considered over weight, I think that airfare should be by weight. You plus all of your luggage times cost equals air-fair.
My husband is a pilot. When we go someplace together we generally rent a small (2-4 seat) airplane. With a full tank of fuel many of these aircraft can only usefully lift another 500-700 lbs. So in order to get where we are going he has to account for our weight as well as any luggage.
The same holds true for airliners. As it is now, the pilot gets a head count of ppl on the plane, multiplies that by a guess of the average american weight and adds that to the luggage and fuel. Thus he guesses the load on the airframe. Now if the actual average wieght of the passengers is actually 30 lbs higher than his estimate, there may be an extra 1500-3000+ lbs of weight on the plane. Not only does this mean the plane will burn fuel faster than the pilot may expect, but it can be the difference in getting off the ground or not.
Although I am one who would be considered over weight, I think that airfare should be by weight. You plus all of your luggage times cost equals air-fair.
I completely agree with summer4077. Obese people obviously eat up more fuel than their thinner counterparts - so why shouldn't they have to pay more? I think charging per pound for airfare is a fantastic idea - it may even give obese parents incentive not feed their kids unhealthy junk. As for politial-correctness, you're dead on there, too. Why not just state it like it is? Sugar-coating everything just makes people feel like there aren't any consequences for their actions. If you have (unprotected) sex at 16, you'll probably get pregant. If you eat a bunch of junkfood and don't exercise, you'll end up fat. Simple as that. Responsible citizens shouldn't have to pay for other people's irresponsibility.
That an airline should charge for an overweight person seems a bit ridiculous to me, but that I am charged 50 or more dollars for an extra bag, or a bag that is slightly over the limit is an affront, especially when the bag(s) and I weigh less than some individual passengers. Therefore, I propose that airlines set a per person (or family) limit for the total weight of bags and the person (family). I'd be happy to step on a scale either alone, or with my bags; people that don't want their weight known can step on the scale with all their luggage.
The idea of freedom that this country is founded on is this: we are free to pursue the lives and actions we desire, right up to the point that we affect or interfere with another person's right to the same thing. Yes, I have the right to weigh whatever I like. I do not, however, have the right to sit on top of another person due to my excess weight. That other person paid to occupy a space. I did not pay to occupy the same space. Therefore, my rights end at the armrest. If my body does not end at the armrest, I should pay more. It's basic logic and nothing else. There is no moral issue here - it's a matter of common sense.
I like to call them "people of girth". Doesn't sound so slanderous. Sort of classy. And "height". In a society like ours where height has been at such a premium in the dating process, now a man of small stature will suddenly rise to prominence as a prime breeder of children who will be able to fly much more. Big advantage in business. She loves him to death because he is so short and skinny. This also can be used in an accompanying Newsweek article on Lincoln and Darwin. Marrying for premium airline ticket children is blatantly Darwinesque.
Just a few words for all of you physically-superior-therefore-morally-superior boneheads-GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!
yes they shoud pay more -it cost more to move them-and it is a inconvience to other passingers due to the extra space they take up-it may not be their fault-but that is the way they are
I had to fly on a very small plane once, and I was asked my weight. It was a tourist ride, but interesting experience nevertheless. Airlines should just charge more instead of nickel and dime fees.
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