Having Kids Makes You Happy

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  • Posted By: 101grad @ 07/02/2008 2:07:10 PM

    all of you that have kids good for you.. things are different now, kids are more of a hassle then a necessity. Marriage is also a thing of the past. Marriage has NO gains for men, only advantages are for the woman. Get rid of all these good for nothing stay at home moms that watch opera all day eating bon bons. all you women with your muffin tops are nothing but depreciating assets.

  • Posted By: undmel@msn.com @ 07/02/2008 1:57:14 PM

    "My problem is not with people who choose not to have kids. My problem is with the author's conclusion.
    The author has no authority to make a "judgement" on the question "Having children makes you happier". At the end of article, she says "FALSE". That is what I have a problem with. Leave it as an article and let each one of us take what we want from the article. But, don't pass a judgement on it.
    Even if the author had said "False, IN MY OPINION", I would have accepted the article. But, she just passes a judgement "False" on behalf of everone !!!!!"

    Yep, completely agree with you. She is not warranted to make that particular conclusion in any sense. Unless extensive scientific research were conducted regarding serotonin levels in the brains of those who had children and those who did not with a control group, etc...that would not even really conclude anything because of the various extraneous other factors that can contribute to unhappiness. What if those who have children have a base of unhappiness and are searching for a way to fill the void, and their level of unhappiness has nothing to do with the presence or absence of children?( Just offering that as an alternative, doesn't mean I think so)..But I honestly believe that children are from above, that every single life has a purpose and a meaning. Who are we to sit around and wonder if those who create life, i.e. mothers and fathers, are selfish, happy, materialistic, whatever? Parents are in the best position because they get to host a new life until that life can function independently. I think we're all selfish to even ponder whether or not it's a good thing to have kids. Life is just too precious.

  • Posted By: telika @ 07/02/2008 1:51:00 PM

    I'm young(28) and I have four kids I'm also married and though I feel everybody has their own calling in life and own happiness, I look forward to each and everyday i get to hug and kiss my babies. I love every smile, every mess they make trying to discover the world and every question.I look forward to having more with my husband (two more when my 4 turn teenagers) Most people think I'm crazy and I think that we are defnitely having a society moving away from having children.

  • Posted By: telika @ 07/02/2008 1:50:26 PM

    I'm young(28) and I have four kids I'm also married and though I feel everybody has their own calling in life and own happiness, I look forward to each and everyday i get to hug and kiss my babies. I love every smile, every mess they make trying to discover the world and every question.I look forward to having more with my husband (two more when my 4 turn teenagers) Most people think I'm crazy and I think that we are defnitely having a society moving away from having children.

  • Posted By: Jaguarwoman @ 07/02/2008 11:55:05 AM

    Glad to read this article. Personally I don't think people should have children if they can't afford them. I married my High School Sweetheart and we will celebrate our 29th wedding anniversary this year and we are child free by choice. Personally I don't know how people raise children today. Its not for everyone. I am taken back by the comments that people without children are selfish, I just think people are envious when they see we come and go when we please and have a stressless life style. I say stress free because everyone knows that when you have children you have a lot of stress. Being a teacher has taught me a lot about children. They need BOTH parents which today they don't get because either a parent is working 2 jobs to take care of them or parents are just too tired to take care of their children's needs. I am the teacher who come 3 o'clock I am smiling saying "Go Home" and I have my free time. Again, its by choice and we all must learn to accept the consequences of the choices we make in our life.

    • Posted By: gravybucket @ 07/02/2008 1:50:10 PM

      Those of us who raise children do so in order to affect the world for the better. There are so many bad parents that I feel it is my responsibility to actually mold some good people and hopefully pass on some of my values that I hold near and dear to me.
      And honestly, I'm not the least bit envious of people who live long lives with no children... I pity them. You are seriously missing out in a way that you can never understand. Those who don't experience having their own children have no idea of the joy and happiness they bring to our lives.
      I agree that kids do need both parents to be involved. I currently work full time and will start a masters program in the fall. My wonderful wife is lucky enough to be able to stay home with them. We don't make a lot of money, but we are frugal and are able to do the things we want to do and spend lots of time together. Money does not bring happiness, no matter how much our culture wants us to believe it. When I get off work, I am always excited to come home and spend time with my wife and play with my kids. On the weekends, we always have activities planned to spend time and have fun together.
      It is everyone's choice, but I also think it is important for people to look at what motivates them to come to their decision. And is your decision making the world a better place? I believe that having children and teaching them to be good, ethical people makes the world a better place.

    • Posted By: JB2008 @ 07/02/2008 12:07:41 PM

      wow it's odd to see you say you have a stressless life you know been a teacher and all because you have chosen a career path in which you have a duty to mold young minds(along with their parents hopefully) and you are not stress...first teaher that is not stressout really...

  • Posted By: AELOVE @ 07/02/2008 1:47:47 PM

    Having children is what you make of it... If you choose to look at it with a hatred then yes, life is going to be hard and unpleasant may I say. But you can also choose to look at it as a blessing and not a curse and choose to accept the problems that come and have a great life....I know that children are hard and sometimes are unpleasant and they can also bring problems some problems are little harder to deal with than others. Children also can make you sad or even disappointed. But it is during those problems that you impart your wisdom and knowldege. You teach them and you learn a little bit more about your self too! People who ask don't you hate having children "NO" I always say. I love them- their problems and all... About spending time with your spouse- you make the time!!! Order a pizza or have ice cream. Cuddle in front of the fire, or talk to each other on the couch.... You make the time for the things that are important. Yes you are tired and want to go to bed but then the moments alone are great and you don't care that you are a little more tired the next morning...Being a family is team work and takes time to get used to. But I think that it truly is all worth it. I have friends who don't plan on children and that is there choice. I don't hate them or blame them. You have to do what the Lord puts on your heart. Some people have kids and some don't. It doesn' truly matter anyway. What matters is that if you are a parent and hate being one- look at things differently. Try to change the way you think and things will change. To the moms: We make the atmospere of the home! We can change the mood of a problem with one encouraging word, with one laugh, with one hug. We just have to see things as good and not bad. I know it is easier said than done, but when you do, it really does make all the change in the world of your family!!! Blessings to all!!!

  • Posted By: pheebs0817 @ 07/02/2008 1:46:31 PM

    Did the study separate the difference between people who plan to have children and people who unexpectedly have children? Because, I feel that will have a great impact on how happy they are with having children.

  • Posted By: loiselisa@hotmail.com @ 07/02/2008 1:45:34 PM

    i LIKED THE ARTICULE. i AM A 28 YEARS OLD WOMEN, AND NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING MY OWN CHILD.
    I AGREE THAT CHILDREN ARE GOOD FOR SOME COUPLES AND BAD FOR OTHERS.
    AND THEY MAKE YOU LOOSE FOCUS ON OTHER IMPORTANT THINKS .
    I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE CHILDREN YOU SHOULD SPEND TIME WITH THEM AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, AND NOT JUST NEGLECT THEM.

  • Posted By: raycoolj @ 07/02/2008 1:11:59 PM

    People that choose not to have children will never understand the immense joy and satisfaction that comes from the roller coaster of parenthood. Unless one actually becomes a parent, these experiences will remain a mystery. It is like describing the taste of chocolate to someone who has never experienced eating a piece. We came to this life without a guarantee of happiness. We choose how we are going to react to the many complexities of life. Having children is not a guarantee that we will be happy. How ridiculous to assume that this is the case. The difference between this generation and previous generations is that we think we deserve anything we want, have no idea what sacrifice is and have no concept of delayed gratification. Being a parent entails loving someone above ones self. I believe this is much more difficult to do these days because people are more selfish. Humanity would come to a quick end if everyone decided that it is better not to have children. I would never trade my ???unhappiness??? of changing diapers, cleaning up vomit, reading stories, holding a sick child, giving birth, teaching, playing 4 square, changing mud clothes, feeding, settling arguments, teacher???s conferences, crying over a pet that died, singing, watching movies, and shots for ANYTHING! I guess ignorance is bliss but one never can taste the sweet without the bitter.

    • Posted By: martheev @ 07/02/2008 1:36:25 PM

      I myself don't have children, yet I understand and have in fact dealt with most of those things you listed at the end of your comment. You say being a parent is to love someone above yourself. Shall I make my own list? My mother, my sister, my neices, my grandparents, my Aunt Laura, my uncle Mike, Robert (who I've known since 4th grade), Jason (who I've known since 1st), Robert's wife Amy Jo, Nick. I have people in my life that I love above myself, a love which will be passed on to my children should I ever end up having them. So to say I can't possibly understand what it is to be a parent is rediculous. Stop assuming things about people you don't even know.

  • Posted By: Whoknows1 @ 07/02/2008 1:02:39 PM

    I cannot believe the comments and the absolute hatred that are in some of them. Stephanie, I totally agree with you as my husband and I also choose to be childless. Mnarich and mnshdesai comments totally shock me. You are both absolutely entitled to your opinion and I am glad you choose to have kids, but don't chastize the people who choose not to just because you are close minded and can't fathom it. All we ask is for a little understanding and nobody ever gives that to us. All i ever hear is "you will change your mind" and "you don't mean you don't want kids." If I said the same thing to all my friends who are now having children (Do you really want to have a child; Don't do it) then they would be extremely upset., as they should be. I applaud this article for at least raising the issue that just because a couple doesn't have children doesn't mean their lives are "tragic." Wow. As for one of the comments below, "If you cannot help society, please do not poison it and destroy it by your utterly selfish and pervert values" that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Just bc an article talks about how some couples are happy without children you can't handle it and have to put others down. We are not asking YOU not to have children, just not to go crazy when someone else decided not to, for whatever reason.

    • Posted By: mnshdesai @ 07/02/2008 1:10:48 PM

      Comment:
      My problem is not with people who choose not to have kids. My problem is with the author's conclusion.
      The author has no authority to make a "judgement" on the question "Having children makes you happier". At the end of article, she says "FALSE". That is what I have a problem with. Leave it as an article and let each one of us take what we want from the article. But, don't pass a judgement on it.

      Even if the author had said "False, IN MY OPINION", I would have accepted the article. But, she just passes a judgement "False" on behalf of everone !!!!!


      • Posted By: mnarich @ 07/02/2008 1:35:05 PM

        I've also said a couple times that it is your choice whether or not to have children. I also agree that there are some people who shouldn't have children (those who are too selfish to care about someone else). My problem is with you and the author missing the whole point of having children. Like I've said, it's not about your PERSONAL happiness. If you give that as a reason for not having children, then I'm going to call you selfish. If you give that as a reason FOR having children, then I'm going to call you selfish. If you say it's for the environment sake, then I'm going to call you misinformed. If you say it is because you are rather selfish and wouldn't make a good parent, then I'll support your decision, but not particularly like your personality. If you say it's because you don't know why you should have children, then I'll have a measure of compassion for you.

  • Posted By: stevario @ 07/02/2008 1:32:59 PM

    mnarich, you are confused if you think children are "about LOVE and love will improve the world." With our global population busting at the seem, more children will not solve (or ???improve???) any of the problems that currently face humanity. But more significant to this conversation than ???improving the world?????? who are you to tell others how to define love in their own little world. Who are you to analyze why I don't want children. Frankly, I find the "procreation pushers" more offensive than any other segment of society. Have your children. Love your children. I have no problem with that. Stop trying to dissect and psychoanalyze me for not wanting children.

  • Posted By: AELOVE @ 07/02/2008 1:31:54 PM

    I guess having children and life with them is what you make of it...Yes you can complain and say oh my life i horrible because I have kids or you can say, yes- I have children and they are not easy to deal with infact they are hard to deal with. But I choose to look at them as a blessing. Because in fact that is what they are... We all make the choice to hate being a parent or loving it. Yes there are some problems and some are bigger than others, but, when you look at the big picture, would you really trade it... Would you take it all back and say I hate kids! I know I would not. know that my kids are going to frustrate me and I know that they are going to make me mad or even disappointed. But I look at as a growing experience for both of us... Every lesson I teach my children I learn a little bit more about myself... There is also great ways to spend time with your spouse even when you have children....Take a look around after the kids are in bed- order a pizza or buy ice cream. Make the time to spend with eachother in stead of complaining about it!!!! Parenthood and marriage is what you make it. You can choose to complain or you can make the best of it and see things as blessings. I know I do...

  • Posted By: ConnieLee @ 06/30/2008 3:48:29 PM

    I think this article is crap. I love having my daughter. I can't imagine my life without a child. It is a piece of you that will be here when you're gone. You get to teacher them and mold them into productive human beings. I do everything eith my daughter. I spend as much time with her as I can. She means the world to me. I have recently did everything but leagally adopt this young man that my daughter knows. He has several brothers and sisters but he has not had the attention that we give our daughter before. He has had a few scrapes in his past but he has come along way since he has been with us on and off for the past year. His grades went up before school was out and he has stopped getting into so much trouble. If you treat your child with respect and show love they will be just fine. You can't have a child and then let them raise themselves. This is to jennzenigmatic that is your choice not to have children but I say to you that you can't make the decision that you are happier without children if you have never had a child. Yes some woman get depressed after they have a child but people also get depressed from being lonely and from unfulfilling lives. Until you have had both worlds don't make any judgements.

    • Posted By: templedog @ 07/02/2008 1:30:20 PM

      Connie, you don't want anyone making judgments, yet you think this article is "crap". I speak from the experience of being the unfortunate infant soul of someone taking a "crap shoot" and giving birth to ME, REALLY if it's NOT something someone wants to do- then perhaps it's an issue that shouldn't be forced or handled with such hostillity. Your post sounds a wee bit judgemental in itself. I DO commend you for trying to help another child not of your own making, but I also feel pretty much EVERYBODY makes a difference in someone's life at some point in their lives. I do not have children, I don't want them, however I have helped families when I saw they needed something- I have done my best whether given a roof, a job, a bag of groceries or just talking to a teen that feels misunderstood to help them see that they aren't being "demonized" and maybe they should take a closer look at their parents and how they choose to show them love. There have also been times that I see the kids HAVE been "demonized" and usually unfairly.
      I have healed families and have the deepest respect for the family unit.
      I am pretty confident that having been a homeless young person myself, I will continue to cross paths when my assistance is needed.
      I try to be loving and non-judgemental towards those who have done the unthinakable- HAD the baby without a second thought as to the consequences and weight of their actions!
      I have to admit, I struggle to TRY to be somewhat spiritual in my views. I am not always successful.
      Obviously I see the scary side of what can go wrong, I am less concerned for the parent than I am the kids dying in the streets because they have become THROWAWAYS.
      But I will, as will you I'm sure- try to help each in our own way.
      jennzenigmatic probably has her own gifts to bring to the table, whichever table she may choose to sit.
      It's HER choice.

  • Posted By: AELOVE @ 07/02/2008 1:27:02 PM

    I guess having children and life with them is what you make of it...Yes you can complain and say oh my life i horrible because I have kids or you can say, yes- I have children and they are not easy to deal with infact they are hard to deal with. But I choose to look at them as a blessing. Because in fact that is what they are... We all make the choice to hate being a parent or loving it. Yes there are some problems and some are bigger than others, but, when you look at the big picture, would you really trade it... Would you take it all back and say I hate kids! I know I would not. know that my kids are going to frustrate me and I know that they are going to make me mad or even disappointed. But I look at as a growing experience for both of us... Every lesson I teach my children I learn a little bit more about myself... There is also great ways to spend time with your spouse even when you have children....Take a look around after the kids are in bed- order a pizza or buy ice cream. Make the time to spend with eachother in stead of complaining about it!!!! Parenthood and marriage is what you make it. You can choose to complain or you can make the best of it and see things as blessings. I know I do...

  • Posted By: martheev @ 07/02/2008 1:26:57 PM

    Here's the deal people, if YOU are happy, then YOU'LL be happy. Sound too simple? It's really not. People make it that way by worrying what others and the whole of society think about thier actions. Shrug that off your back, do what you want to do, and see how happy you are then. Kids don't neccesarily make you happy. How many people know a couple that was just about to break up, but then got pregnant? Did they think that was a cure all? Did they go about being just as bitter to one another anyway? Some people having a child actually helps them grow up. Some parents can be good parents emotionwise, but still think of themselves when it comes to spending money on themselves. Some parents "stay together for the kids" and end up devorcing when thier child is older (which makes it sting not less by the way). The point is children should NOT be braught into an unloving home. And telling people "But you HAVE to!" is just dumb. Some people just shouldn't have children. Some people would make wonderful, loving, attentive parents, but they choose not to. Either way, live your life the way you want to and you'll be (*gasp*) happy. If you want to live your life free of parental responsibility fine. If you want to have them, fine. One side shouldn't condemn them other in this case. We're talking about child bearing, not murder.

  • Posted By: martheev @ 07/02/2008 1:26:05 PM

    Here's the deal people, if YOU are happy, then YOU'LL be happy. Sound too simple? It's really not. People make it that way by worrying what others and the whole of society think about thier actions. Shrug that off your back, do what you want to do, and see how happy you are then. Kids don't neccesarily make you happy. How many people know a couple that was just about to break up, but then got pregnant? Did they think that was a cure all? Did they go about being just as bitter to one another anyway? Some people having a child actually helps them grow up. Some parents can be good parents emotionwise, but still think of themselves when it comes to spending money on themselves. Some parents "stay together for the kids" and end up devorcing when thier child is older (which makes it sting not less by the way). The point is children should NOT be braught into an unloving home. And telling people "But you HAVE to!" is just dumb. Some people just shouldn't have children. Some people would make wonderful, loving, attentive parents, but they choose not to. Either way, live your life the way you want to and you'll be (*gasp*) happy. If you want to live your life free of parental responsibility fine. If you want to have them, fine. One side shouldn't condemn them other in this case. We're talking about child bearing, not murder.

  • Posted By: nejbruns @ 07/02/2008 1:25:19 PM

    First - the article is a crock, where's the control group? The group of identical people where in one situation they had a kid, and in another situation they had no kids! You cannot generalize people as "all are the same", and the ones with kids are unhappier - it's absolutely absurd.

    Second - It is quite obvious to me that reproduction is a product of evolution, and that all feelings we have toward the opposite sex are for reproductive purposes, and as a result - the human species survives. And that the feeling a mother has toward her baby after giving birth, or breast feeding, is so that she can tell her daughters about what an unbelievable feeling it is. This makes her daughters want to have babies, and human beings survive for another generation. Same thing goes for the unbelievable feelings we have when going through the process of procreating - the reason it feels so good is not just that, it is so you will do it more, and the human race survives.

    Anyhow, it can be argued that humans have evolved past the point of following anamalistic urges, but I don't see many people not having sex due to it. Just making the decision to not deal with the natural consequences.

    Also, there must be a bigger reason why we're here than to ensure our happiness (be it with or without child). Why does the universe even exist? If its a higher power that put us here, then this being also made us have the urge to have kids!

    Just some thought on the issue
    Gotta go back to work. - everyone is different - please don't judge either way.

  • Posted By: swanman_1234 @ 07/02/2008 11:21:36 AM

    Its funny how we as a culture define things like "emotional wellbeing and happiness". These terms are hardly objective and quite frankly can mean a million things. If you define happy as having more energy and playing tennis whenever you want, then I guess I was happier without my two girls too. But if happiness is defined as more than a fleeting emotion I have when snuggled up to my wife on the couch with no distractions, then things shift dramatically. I find joy in the fact that my two year old cries for me when she's scared, I find joy in the fact that when the words daddy or dad leave my children's lips they are referring to me alone, I find joy in pouring myself into little vessels as an investment in carrying out my values into a broken world, I find joy in denying myself pleasure so that my little girls might have more, and I find joy in obeying God's command of being fruitful and multiplying.

    • Posted By: Nyarlathotep @ 07/02/2008 11:25:30 AM

      Of course, since this life is merely a waiting station for the next one, so what does it matter if we leave this world an overpopulated wasteland and a human cesspool?

      • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/02/2008 11:34:40 AM

        If the Earth is truly a wasteland and a human cesspool, as you suggest, why don't you kill yourself and end your own misery? With that kind of negativity, it sounds as though you are certainly not happy. Perhaps you should instead have children and find the joy that they can bring to your life.

        • Posted By: Nyarlathotep @ 07/02/2008 1:22:14 PM

          Actually, I'm far from being miserable - as far from it as possible. Nor am I overtly negative, although it's understandable why you'd think so. I consider myself fortunate that I have people in my life whom I love and who love me for who I am, whether I choose to have kids or not. I also consider myself fortunate that I have an outlet for my negativity and my anger through my art.

          My above statement was meant with a great deal of sneering irony and a godless tongue firmly planted in cheek, directed towards those who feel it's their "duty" to populate the earth when there's already too many children who DON'T have loving families and/or are doomed to a life of poverty, crime, abuse, or worse. If my wife and I choose to have children, we'll probably adopt a child without a loving family.

          But as it stands, I'm already quite joyful with my wife, my cats, my extended family, and my art, thank you very much.

    • Posted By: M.Singer @ 07/02/2008 11:23:59 AM

      AMEN!

  • Posted By: raycoolj @ 07/02/2008 1:11:38 PM

    People that choose not to have children will never understand the immense joy and satisfaction that comes from the roller coaster of parenthood. Unless one actually becomes a parent, these experiences will remain a mystery. It is like describing the taste of chocolate to someone who has never experienced eating a piece. We came to this life without a guarantee of happiness. We choose how we are going to react to the many complexities of life. Having children is not a guarantee that we will be happy. How ridiculous to assume that this is the case. The difference between this generation and previous generations is that we think we deserve anything we want, have no idea what sacrifice is and have no concept of delayed gratification. Being a parent entails loving someone above ones self. I believe this is much more difficult to do these days because people are more selfish. Humanity would come to a quick end if everyone decided that it is better not to have children. I would never trade my ???unhappiness??? of changing diapers, cleaning up vomit, reading stories, holding a sick child, giving birth, teaching, playing 4 square, changing mud clothes, feeding, settling arguments, teacher???s conferences, crying over a pet that died, singing, watching movies, and shots for ANYTHING! I guess ignorance is bliss but one never can taste the sweet without the bitter.









  • Posted By: bknbridge @ 07/02/2008 1:10:44 PM

    Why DO people have children?
    To have someone take care of them when their old?
    To bring a sense of meaning to their lives?
    To please their God?
    To bring themselves closer to their spouses?
    To continue their lineage?
    To experience a love like no other?

    Guess what - these are all SELFISH reasons.

    I'm sick and tired of those who say that choosing not to have children is selfish.

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