Having Kids Makes You Happy

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  • Posted By: jptarus@hotmail.com @ 07/02/2008 9:17:28 AM

    In this article, it is stated that, "Parents may openly lament their lack of sleep,... but rarely cop to feeling depressed due to the everyday rigors of child rearing." I could be confused, but last time I checked, we don't read minds. So, unless these parents were hooked to polygraphs, I don't see how the researcher could know how the parents were "really" feeling when they said that they were happy. Is it the common practice of the scientific community to ignore evidence and keep pushing its theories despite everything saying that it simply isn't the case? I am a teacher (so you know I make jack) and a father of three children all under the age of four. On top of my own children I deal with around one hundred and forty hormone-driven teenagers on a daily basis. Yet, I'd never wish I hadn't had children. I sleep less, have less energy, and certainly don't have the latest in electronics (my toys), and yet I'm still happy. I've heard people saying that, "children are supposed to make you happy." This is bull crud. Children don't make you happy. Spouses don't make you happy. Toys, money, houses, nor clothes make you happy. You choose to be happy or you choose to not be. Don't blame your emotions on outside forces. Take responsibility for them yourself. Part of being an adult is sacrificing things you want for things you need. When you take responsibility for another person's life (which is the natural and biological consequence for dropping your pants) you are no longer looking out for yourself. Your life no longer belongs to you, but to the person you've invited to the world. Instead of resenting the person for accepting the invitation you made, suck it up, grow up and do your job. Now, if you don't want to have kids, don't. Trust me when I say that the human gene-pool will be grateful to not have you swimming around and polluting it. Those of us who do have kids, love them, and sacrifice for them will simply have more world to hand to our children. Our legacy will continue while yours dies with you. Hurray for us!

  • Posted By: karlybelle @ 07/02/2008 9:16:00 AM

    This subject is WAY to involved to try and put it into black and white categories. There is a HUGE grey area in this discussion. Having children, or not having children, is a very personal choice. Both are correct choices if the reasons behind the choices are what you can live, and die, with. I cannot believe people are bashing one side or the other.

  • Posted By: rozanjan @ 07/02/2008 9:13:07 AM

    i have been married 12 years and have 3 kids ages 10,8,4. My husband and I had 3 wonderful years of courtship and carefree living before kids. i wouldn't trade the sense of purpose with kids for a few extra moments of bliss. We are American; we care about the future generation. If all we cared about was selfish happiness we would be living in a European welfare state with their dire birth rates that don't even replace the existing population.

  • Posted By: Pastor Jim @ 07/02/2008 9:12:14 AM

    Have all the right questions been asked to these parents that said they were not happy. I wonder sometimes is it because we want to be more than GOD met us to be, could it be that some parents just want things their own way all the time. We as parents must look at the way GOD would have us to, and not just believe that we are doing it right, just because is feel ok. I am sure that many of us have heard Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. The key word is (train) many parents are unhappy because they tell their children what to do without realizing that child many not have a clue what your words mean. When you ask your child ???do you understand what I said???, if the reply is no you tell them again, once you get them to respond with a nod of the head (yes) you believe that they have understood all that you have said. Question: If we as adults cannot understand some simple instructions at times and we get things messed up and you know that is true about every person on this planet, don???t we get confused, why is it that we feel a young child should understand all that was said to them without training them teaching them what words mean, it is not an easy job. But the more you work at it the easier it becomes. It is when you put little or not much effort into your children is when it becomes more difficult. By the way I have five boys; you can say daddy & mommy love you, in your kid???s mind they really do not know what that word means, because most adults still don???t know. I am a Pastor and you must prove to people that you love them before someone can understand what you are telling them. We are unhappy with our children by choice, being unhappy with your child stops you from training the way GOD says to do it , because your focus is on what you want instead of how GOD says to do it. No place in the bible does GOD give you a guarantee, but if you do it His way your children will have a reference point to go back to when they get older. Remember all the times that you told your child to do something, they nodded or said yes, and then later did just what you told them not to do, guess what there are times as adults that we agree to something and walk away still not understanding what was said, and later admit that we did not understand. Sometimes children just don???t really understand although we think they do all because we said it in a clear and easy to understand way, but not to all, some may need more (training, learning of the English words that we speak each day) , oh by the way do you ever think that young kids use the dictionary like we as adults do? If we were to stick to just training we may not be as unhappy as we have made ourselves by our own choice. Just like every other choice that we make you need to choose to be joyful. Here is how you can start and finish. Read Mat 11:28-30 Pastor Jim Dixon (revjad@msn.com)


  • Posted By: babydoll @ 07/02/2008 9:10:03 AM

    As a society we are entirely caught up in what external things, people and possessions can make us happy. Happiness is an emotional state of being. Emotions are constantly changing. My husband brings me flowers, I am happy. My husband leaves his towel on the bathroom floor, I am angry. One of my girls snuggles up to me on the couch, I am happy. One of my girls fails to do her chores, I am disappointed. This is not the way to live our lives, dependent on others to bring us happiness. We are to be content in all things and circumstances. Our contentment is to come from something greater than external things, people and possession. It is to come from God and from within ourselves. I have a successful career. My husband owns his own business; together we also build spec houses, serve as the youth pastor in our church and most importantly are raising two beautiful daughters. Life does get crazy and hectic. Sometimes I feel like saying let me off this crazy merry-go-round. However, that is an emotional response. When I step back from the crisis at hand and look at my life. I am very content with who I am and what I am doing with it. This sense of contentment comes not from having or not having children, but from knowing that my family and I are actively following God???s plan for our lives.

  • Posted By: rozanjan @ 07/02/2008 9:06:05 AM

    I have been married for 12 years and have 3 kids ages 10,8,4. My husband and I had 3 wonderful years of courtship and carefree living before kids. I wouldn't trade the sense of purpose for a few fleeting moments of bliss. We are American; we care about the future generation. If all we cared about was selfish happiness we would be living in a European welfare state with their dire birth rate that doesn't even replace the population.

  • Posted By: jojobinks70 @ 07/02/2008 9:04:08 AM

    Happiness is overrated. Love is the true meaning of life, even in sadness. So hate to say it, but those who never have a child will never experience the most profound love of all, that being, the love one feels for ones own child. It goes far beyond words, and makes considerations of personal happiness secondary.

  • Posted By: oldcathay@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 2:59:45 PM

    I'm tremendously happy without children, and could not pursue my full-time career as a climate change scientist or my numerous hobbies if I had kids. With all the carbon reductions I'm responsible for, I am doing far greater good for the planet than I would by simply being a mom, plus I'm giving the breeders more opportunities to overpopulate and destroy future standards-of-living and biodiversity.

    • Posted By: ayeayetide @ 07/02/2008 9:02:02 AM

      For a scientist you haven't been keeping up with the research very well. Birthrates are dropping worldwide, often below maintenance levels. Moreover, consumption patterns are more responsible for environmental destruction than high population. And one could argue that placing ultimate priority on individual happiness is responsible for both low birth rates and greedy consumerism. Time to stop thinking in the binary...

    • Posted By: anotherpointofview @ 06/30/2008 4:17:39 PM

      So why not be an abortionist and help with killing children?

    • Posted By: okthenwhatever @ 06/30/2008 3:56:58 PM

      as a supposedly educated person, don't you realize that calling people "breeders" is offensive and no more so degrading than calling someone a derogatory term based on ethnicity, gender, etc? Me thinks you may need some more edu-mackation and less ego.

  • Posted By: beki79 @ 07/02/2008 9:00:33 AM

    I think one reason parents who admit they are less happy after they had a child is because of our society. It has changed to glorify single parents, the party life etc. Look at how the majority of actor/actresses have nanny's, how we see them still living the single life with 3 kids at home. Back in the 50's it was more of a family orientated lifestyle, we were happy with the backyard bbq's! not late night drinks the clubs

  • Posted By: oldcathay@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 2:59:12 PM

    I am tremendously happy without children and would not have a productive and satisfying career as a climate change scientist as well as numerous hobbies if I had kids. Plus, with all the carbon reductions I'm responsible for, I am helping the planet out in ways that would not be possible if I were simply a mom, and I'm giving breeders more opportunities to reduce future standards-of-living and biodiversity.

    • Posted By: ayeayetide @ 07/02/2008 8:59:56 AM

      For a scientist you haven't been keeping up with the research very well. Birthrates are dropping worldwide, often below maintenance levels. Moreover, consumption patterns are more responsible for environmental destruction than high population. And one could argue that placing ultimate priority on individual happiness is responsible for both low birth rates and greedy consumerism. Time to stop thinking in the binary...

  • Posted By: beki79 @ 07/02/2008 8:59:30 AM

    I think one reason parents who admit they are less happy after they had a child is because of our society. It has changed to glorify single parents, the party life etc. Look at how the majority of actor/actresses have nanny's, how we see them still living the single life with 3 kids at home. Back in the 50's it was more of a family orientated lifestyle that was shown on tv. we were happy with the backyard bbq's! not the clubs

  • Posted By: chellerella @ 07/01/2008 2:31:49 PM

    I'm pretty sure (I have two kids and third on the way) that people who report being happier because they are childless fall in two categories. First, they don't know what they are missing. How many of us thought as kids we were happier being able to stay home from school than to have to get up early and sit in "boring" classes all day. How many wish as adults that we had been allowed that "happiness." Time, perspective and experience can change a lot of ideas that seem to make us happy into the road to misery.. Two, and this may be an extension of the first. the immaturity of not having experience. When I was growing up I was taught to volunteer in my community and serve others. I worked at a police department, a hospital, a homeless shelter, adopted highways, etc. In all of these experiences I was given the opportunity to experience the joy of working for nothing but the joy of helping others. I was also a normal American teenager in that I was given opportunity to play and pursue my own selfish desires. I can say from experience that the happiness I experienced (and this did not take away from the difficulty of performing the work and service) far exceeded the happiness of sitting around trying to beat some video game at 3am. It isn't any wonder that those who don't know any better, think they are happier.
    By the way, the idea that people only had kids to provide workers for the farm comes from an idea the orginated within the last two hundred years. Believe it or not, people have very often had children because they WANTED to have children. Look it up and learn something new, it may not be easy, but it make make your happier.

    • Posted By: Tacocat27 @ 07/01/2008 4:30:14 PM

      Ok so apprently my decision to not have children is either 1. me being ignorant, or 2. me being selfish and immature. Well jeez thats awfully open-minded of you, thanks for such uplifting options! Could the same not be said for you? Your decision to have children means you also don't know what you are missing out on. I very much doubt you know what its like to just pick up and go on vacation or take a weekend trip last minute, or catch that late-night movie on the spur of the moment. So you followed along with what society deems norm, good for you, would you like some sort of medal? What I take from your comment is I am immature and selfish because I don't feel the need to squirt forth a child into this world, but it would be entirely UNSELFISH and MATURE for me to go ahead and have a kid that I don't want and would just come to resent? Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense. Yes I want the freedom to do what I want, yes I want to live for myself and make my own decisions, that doesn't make me selfish, simply more independent then you. There is nothing wrong with either choice, have your kids, have as many as you like, but don't think you have those of us who don't want children "all figured out" because you don't know me, you don't know my motives and such, so quite making baseless assumptions. Is there some sort of hormone that you produce during pregnancy that makes you a self-rightous moron? Some of the comments of parents on here make me fear very much for their children and the future of our world.

      • Posted By: ayeayetide @ 07/02/2008 8:45:00 AM

        I should point out that a lot of people reproducing in their thirties do know what it's like to take a weekend trip, catch a late night movie or in my case, relocate all over the world.
        I've done all of that and more and consider becoming a parent to be as worthwhile a life experience as catching a late night movie. Besides, who wants to be that creepy middle-aged guy at the club, or alone in the movie theatre at 3am...

    • Posted By: fuzzys @ 07/01/2008 4:02:18 PM

      How condescending - all who have not spawned are immature and missing out. Give me a break. If popping out kids was the only worthy endeavor in this world, we would all still be living in caves.

  • Posted By: davesohns @ 07/02/2008 8:44:16 AM

    We are truly a narcissistic society. Thinking we must be completely happy all the time. In many ways, happiness is a choice.

  • Posted By: dag70x7 @ 07/02/2008 8:37:44 AM

    It is written that it is a greater blessing to give than to receive. Could we consider that being happy is not always the goal, but rather being ultimately blessed and growing in character? Our characters crave happiness, much like our bellies crave sweets, but is it the antidote to true fulfilling joy? Perhaps the real question is, do we want to feed the flesh or the spirit. I am convinced that the greatest joys in life involve sacrifice. Sacrifice for good is always ennobilizing to the human character and a fitting food for the psyche, as each tough experience grows us in wisdom and strength. Sometimes I wonder, of two choices, which is the most difficult? That's probably the one that is right. The easy way leaves us to two-dimentional thinking, and unfulfilled living, while the more difficult, which runs contrary to our fleshy disposition, will feed the Spirit, where peace and love dwell. So what are you feeding? (posted by dag70x7@hotmail.com)

  • Posted By: realist66 @ 07/02/2008 8:24:30 AM

    I've been looking for signs of happiness on the married with kids group since I was a teen , now in my 40's and yet to see any. The only thing I ever see in the husband/fathers eyes is "shoot me oh please shoot me". Two people from school were very active and happy, then despite my attempts to reason with them, they married and shortly after they had a a kid. The last time I saw them they looked terrible, they were in their 20's and looked more like 50's. Happiness was gone, never saw them out anymore it was sad to see two people with so much life die so young. Guy in town who had it all, house, business, toys envied me, just out of college and starting a 7-4 job. What he envied was my freedom, and what I didn't have, a baby and live in girlfriend who decided to stick her nose into the business and suck out all the fun. She destroyed the business and I can only wonder if she finished him off. My advice to all man or woman, you feel you need a companion, get a dog.

  • Posted By: kdiventi @ 07/02/2008 8:21:49 AM

    I am a married 35 year old stay at home mother of 1(so far). I found this article very interesting. I belong to a moms group, I have several siblings and cousins in our families, and many close female friends. Most of them are married with children under the age of 8. When I speak to and interect with some of the parents I know, they seem so overwhelmed and unhappy more often than they seem happy. It seems to me tha many of them are having 2 or 3 kids because that is what they always heard was the so called "American Dream." And in my circle of family and friends, many of them seem to live beyond their means financially and spread themselves out so thin with their time in order to keep up with the Jone's. One statement from a mom that really made me wonder why some people have kids at all was when she said in reference to be a stay at home mom , " I could never stay home with my kids all week because they drive me crazy on th weekends." I am a mother of 1 toddler and it's been the best experience of my life and made me happy beyond words. Yes, it is an exhausting thankless job at times but joyful too. But the difference is I am living in a modest house, have no credit card debt and a supportive husband and loving father. I just wish for the kids sake, potential parents would stop basing these life decisions on what they think they are suppose to do and instead chose to have kids or not have them because it suits their lifestyle. A child adds joy to happy marriage but doesn't create a happy marriage.

  • Posted By: kdiventi @ 07/02/2008 8:18:56 AM

    I am a married 35 year old stay at home mother of 1(so far). I found this article very interesting. I belong to a moms group, I have several siblings and cousins in our families, and many close female friends. Most of them are married with children under the age of 8. When I speak to and interect with many of these parents, they seem so overwhelmed, unhappy, and sleep deprived. It seems to me tha many of them are having 2 or 3 kids because that is what they always heard was the so called "American Dream." And in my circle of family and friends, many of them seem to live beyond their means financially and spread themselves out so thin with their time in order to keep up with the Jone's. One statement from a mom that really made me wonder why some people have kids at all was when she said in reference to be a stay at home mom , " I could never stay home with my kids all week because they drive me crazy on th weekends." I am a mother of 1 toddler and it's been the best experience of my entire life and made me happy beyond words. It is an exhausting thankless job at times but joyful too. But the difference is I am living in a modest house, have no credit card debt and a supportive husband and loving father. I just wish for the kids sake, potential parents would stop basing these life decisions on what they think they are suppose to do and instead chose to have kids or not have them because it suits their lifestyle. A child adds joy to happy marriage but doesn't create a happy marriage.

  • Posted By: catinthemist @ 07/02/2008 5:33:54 AM

    It depends on the individuals involved. It is a personal choice. Parenthood can be hell and heaven, as with many things in life worth doing. For myself, I wanted children for the reason most little girls do, to have someone to love that loves me back. What I found was much more and and eye opening. I ended up a single parent of three children and it was a struggle. It was exhausting and very lonely, and they didn't always act like they loved me.
    I was lucky in that ultimately, despite all the trials and angst of my parenthood, my children grew into people I not only love, but like very much. Now, as in all the low moments of my parenthood, I would not trade the experience for all the happiness that might have come from living burden free.

  • Posted By: GeorgeU1951 @ 07/02/2008 5:10:12 AM

    I have lately come to consider motherhood to be not only the most thankless of jobs, but also the most important. No moms, in short order, no humans. To all you moms: THANKS

  • Posted By: GeorgeU1951 @ 07/02/2008 4:57:13 AM

    Neither I nor my sister had kids. We're in our 50's. That trend, plus abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade means that the U.S. native-born population is shrinking... The same with Australia, and with every single European country, except Albania. The issue has much larger scope that whether a given person is "happy". Us Boomers bought the '60's "Do Your Own Thing" philosophy, without considering the long-term consequences, and now the country is paying the price.

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