Having Kids Makes You Happy

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  • Posted By: truthreigns @ 06/30/2008 3:54:07 PM

    Many things have changed over the years in having and raising children. Yes, at times its difficult, but there are few joys in the world that can compare to having children and raising them to be independent and positive influences in the world around them. As the father of 7 this comment is not grounded in assumptions. The issue I see in this is that we are judging having children as the cause for "unhappiness", as opposed to the societal ills that are really the causes of problems. Way to much for our pleasure vss. for the common good.

  • Posted By: mjacks @ 06/30/2008 3:52:07 PM

    I have three kids, one that I had in my early 20's who is now a teen, and two under 4. I love my children to death, but being a parent is not an easy or exciting job. My teenager, is very rebellious, my two and four year old I cannot take out in public without the embarassement of them having their toddler fits and crying for everything under the sun. At the end of the day, I would say that having kids have not made my life happier because I was not a happy person to began with. Sometimes I do envy my friends that are childless because they have thier freedom and ability to rest at times. I think kids are not for everyone, I personally think that I bit off way more than I can chew.

  • Posted By: jbwulf@gmail.com @ 06/30/2008 3:51:39 PM

    Do people not understand the difference between research, which shows more "global" information, as compared to their own personal experience? All the exceptions to the rule are writing in, saying this isn't true. Please realize this research is about generalities, not your own personal story.

  • Posted By: LTF1 @ 06/30/2008 3:50:51 PM

    I find studies such as this pretty meaningless. Who could possibly be the control group? What is the "happy" standard, ie how is "happiness" defined? By having "a martini"?!? There is the happiness of the 8 year old, 18 year old, 28 year old, 48 year old, 88 year old, are these comparable? By such logic, parents who have suffered the tragic loss of a child should see an increase in their happiness quotient, but I seriously doubt that was discovered to be the case (or even considered). Furthermore, is every childless couple happier than every couple with kids? Obviously not, so why are their differences. This is just another case of social science pretending to be real science. I am sure that some people are happier w/o kids and some people are happier with kids. I fall in the last group. My wife and I are much happier now over the 7 years since are daughter was born. I wouldn't go back for anything.

  • Posted By: Yonderboy @ 06/30/2008 3:46:43 PM

    People with kids have less happiness, but a greater sense of purpose. This is self-evident. Responsibility for others at work, home, the hospital or an orphanage does not = happiness. Responsibility requires self-sacrifice. With a 5 month old son I don't see as many movies out (none) or drink as many martini's with friends b/c of my responsibility to my son. If you don't want the responsibility you will have more time to do what makes you happy. Duh. My child doesn't make me happy when I lose sleep or freedom, but he gives me an inexplicable joy that I've never experienced at the movies, on vacation or in the bar. I'll take joy and responsibility (including the personal cost) over happiness any day.

  • Posted By: figblue373@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 2:27:05 PM

    What a bunch of rubbish. My daughter saved my life. I found out I was diabetic. So I quit drinking and running around with the friends I had since high school who were spending way too much money at the bar. She has brought immense joy to my parents and I. That joy is an attitude I choose to have. It takes work everyday. And I have had incredible support from my family and my church. This helps so much because I had to leave the baby's father when I found I was pregnant because he was abusive. Life isn't easy but that's okay, I'm a fighter.
    Culture and environment can shape one's values on family and raising children. In Michigan because of the economy people are going back to living with the extended family. We do what it takes because children are our future. I'm sure any family type would agree with that. My job is to teach my daughter to adapt and survive in the world I live in day to day.
    We are bombarded with images from the advertising world saying we will be happy if only we buy Brand X or look like That Movie Star. Happiness fades but my level of contentment with my life is easier to sustain.
    Happiness is an attitude, an emotional state. Maybe the issue is that people do not know how to find contentment within themselves and rely too much on external sources of happiness.

    • Posted By: mochal @ 06/30/2008 3:45:14 PM

      To say it's a bunch of rubbish shows immaturity and possibly resentment on your part. Your child could not have possibly saved your life you decided to do it for yourself because of your disposition. Many people out there still make the wrong choices whether or not they have children and many people are blissfully happy without children. It is true that happiness is an attitude..so if you're not happy ain't no way a child is going to do it for you!

  • Posted By: itscrystalclear@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 3:44:49 PM

    I just turned 43, married 19 wonderful years, youngest of 12 and I can say I have no regrets not having children. It was never something I thought of as a young girl "I HAVE to have kids when I grow up". This may be due in part to having a house full of nieces and nephews at a young age; after all I was a year old when my first nephew arrived.

    I will say that I have heard many time from my older siblings "I wouldn't take anything in the world for my kids but you're SO lucky you don't have any!". Of course this is always after one of them has done something they shouldn't. I have been a witness to heartaches and triumps with them all. With many great nieces and nephews now I have the pleasure of always have a little one around to spoil - I just get to send them home :-)

  • Posted By: SCH403 @ 06/30/2008 3:44:04 PM

    Thank you for bringing out what I've felt is my dirty secret. I'm 31, with two toddlers, and have put aside my career for the sake of my children. It's a choice I grudgingly make every day. I love my children deeply, but a lot of times I don't really like them. I envy other women without kids. It is a myth that you can have it all - career, family, something has to give.

  • Posted By: Towerguy79 @ 06/30/2008 3:43:08 PM

    Comment: I've read and re-read most of the comments and sicussion pieces posted here, and I'm seeing some very one sided answers. I'm a 29 year old male who chose NOT to have children, and who's wife subsequently divorced him for it. Neither of us were ready finanically or emotionally, nor was our relationship ready, for a child to be brought in, and she was very adamant about forcing it.

    I have many friends who had children very young (some at the age of 15) and most of them have either lost custody of their kids, or have told me on a number of occasions (in confidence of course) that they wished they would have waited until they were more secure in their own lives.

    Selfish? Possibly. But I think we all have stages we achieve in life, and getting over our selfishness is a requirement before we're ready to have kids. Trying to deny this is ridiculous; admitting to ourselves that we need to be comfortable with our own lives, before we can fully cherish our children's lives, is of utmost importance.

    I'll concede the possibility that, since I do not have children, I could never understand the emotions impressed upon a person when they have them; however, looking in from the outside, I can make assumptions based on my observations, and I can say with 100% confidence that if you aren't ready to sacrifice your own life for the well being of your child's, then you have no business having children.

  • Posted By: ConnieLee @ 06/30/2008 3:38:57 PM

    this article is crap. you make your life what it is whether you have children or not. most people are miserable in this day and age anyway. i am extremely happy with my life and my daughter. we spend a great deal of time together. I would rather be with my child and taking part in her life than be without her.

  • Posted By: Goatskull @ 06/30/2008 3:27:00 PM

    My wife and I are both 46 and never had kids and don't want to. No one has ever asked us why or shown any concern about one way or the other. Do childless couples actually grief for their decision? I guess we must live in an area where no one cares about what others decicde we we are just very oblivious to others around us.

    • Posted By: martha4yost@gmail.com @ 06/30/2008 3:38:35 PM

      I don't feel grief about not having children, but I do feel annoyed by people who think I should feel grief. Sounds like you're living in a great place where people mind their own business. good for you!

  • Posted By: 33horses @ 06/30/2008 3:38:01 PM

    My husband and I are childless by choice and I might add very happy to be so after 30 years of marriage. Thank you for this wonderfully insightful article. Maybe now people will stop feeling sorry for us!

  • Posted By: courtlaura2 @ 06/30/2008 2:32:33 PM

    I have yearned to be a mother as long as I can remember. However, the realities of being a mother day-in and day-out are stressful at best and down right miserable at times. I struggle daily with the contradiction of how I "should feel" and how I do feel. I love my child more than anything in this world and would do anything for her, but it's no cake walk.

    • Posted By: katjones37 @ 06/30/2008 3:37:34 PM

      Ignore the what you think you "should feel" and think about what you really DO feel. As a mom of two, it annoys me to no end that we're all supposed to be perfect parents and perfectly love our children every minute of every day and not feel the stress of how their lives affect ours. As I have told my kids, "never EVER doubt that I love you, but right now, you're driving me crazy!" Parenting is stressful, financially draining, and emotionally exhausting. But oh boy, is it ever worth it. Hang in there, and don't let romantic notions of parenthood get you down.

  • Posted By: fuzzys @ 06/30/2008 3:33:15 PM

    I think I can contribute more to society without having kids. Having and caring for kids is very draining and demanding, particularly on the mother. Most mothers have no time for any outside activities, volunteer/charity work, etc. due to shuttling kids around between soccer games, cooking, cleaning, changing diapers, shopping, etc. Even if they do have a bit of time they are exhausted from all the aforementioned activities. I personally think that is an unfortunate waste of people's brightest and most active years. Obviously some people have to have children in order to continue the population, and I am grateful that so many of you are willing and able to do it. However, I choose to contribute to society in other ways.

  • Posted By: fuzzys @ 06/30/2008 3:32:58 PM

    I think I can contribute more to society without having kids. Having and caring for kids is very draining and demanding, particularly on the mother. Most mothers have no time for any outside activities, volunteer/charity work, etc. due to shuttling kids around between soccer games, cooking, cleaning, changing diapers, shopping, etc. Even if they do have a bit of time they are exhausted from all the aforementioned activities. I personally think that is an unfortunate waste of people's brightest and most active years. Obviously some people have to have children in order to continue the population, and I am grateful that so many of you are willing and able to do it. However, I choose to contribute to society in other ways.

  • Posted By: amber_rollins@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 3:32:11 PM

    I belive that adults that are happier without kids are selfish by nature and would never be happy with anything or anybody ruining their plans for their life. I have always considered my children a joy and a blessing and enjoy all the time I have with them, don't get me wrong kids can be very trying at times, but I would never want to miss out on this awesome journey.

  • Posted By: krichardson @ 06/30/2008 3:12:59 PM

    I see 2 main flaws in their argument.

    1. "We don't need our kids."
    What they are forgetting about is what happens when you retire?

    You say you have Social Security. Great, but without a sustaining population to replenish the funds there won't be much left. Most people don't expect Social Security to provide much in the future. Got a 401k or pension. Great planning, but if there aren't enough young folks to take over the jobs at the companies that are invested in, the companies will not expand the companies will inevitable contract. It's a little known fact but economies can't grow when the population contracts.

    Every society needs young people to sustain itself but we may not notice it until it's too late to do anything about it.

    2. "People without children are happier."
    While I will agree with this premise in general, I think we should be measuring sustainable joy throughout life and not happiness. From what I can tell in the article happiness is measured by a lack of stress, attaining material possessions, and getting what I want for myself. As a young parent of 2 kids I know that most people my age without kids will beat me in every one of those categories. I wouldn't trade my kids for any of these because I know they won't bring the joy I get from my children.

    Applying the logic from the article would lead people to do nothing. Just think of a few examples of things that require a lot of work. I know that I didn't feel like it was worth it being in college for 4 years, and struggling through many classes that weren't easy. I know of others that were much happier not being in college at the time because they didn't have to struggle like I did. I know it was worth it because I understand things much better and now I can see the value of what I accomplished. I think a lot of the joy comes after you see the job you have accomplished and I think this applies to children as well.

    I know it is incredibly frustrating telling my son to do something he needs to do 14 times before he obeys. But the frustration can't even compare with seeing learn to obey and grow as a person. This is where the real joy in parenting comes from. Watching my son and daughter grow and become better people and along the way becoming a better person myself. This I think is the essential part of obtaining joy. Helping other people to grow as people. I suppose this can be done with others but God gives most people this unique opportunity to do it as parents. I just don't believe that those who actively try not to be parents will invest heavily in other's lives. It just seems too inconsistent with the underlying motivation.
    I would highly recommend having kids if you want to have sustained joy in your short time on this planet.

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 06/30/2008 3:30:17 PM

      People with kids have a lot more money to save for retirement.

  • Posted By: marianne718@yahoo.com @ 06/30/2008 3:30:00 PM

    I find it amusing to learn that folks actually believe that the absence of children = the absence of all responsibility. Based on what I???m reading here, apparently if it weren't for kiddies, everyone would be out running amuck, blissfully free of any responsibility for anything whatsoever and available to travel, party and do everything and anything they want to do whenever and wherever they want to do it. To cap it all off, it sounds like this lack of responsibility = happiness. Do childless people not have to care for elderly parents? Do childless people have no sick or needy siblings, friends or family? Do childless people not need jobs to earn a living? Wow. I must have missed that clause when I signed the contract.

  • Posted By: krichardson @ 06/30/2008 3:14:39 PM

    I see 2 main flaws in their argument.

    1. "We don't need our kids."
    What they are forgetting about is what happens when you retire?

    You say you have Social Security. Great, but without a sustaining population to replenish the funds there won't be much left. Most people don't expect Social Security to provide much in the future. Got a 401k or pension. Great planning, but if there aren't enough young folks to take over the jobs at the companies that are invested in, the companies will not expand the companies will inevitable contract. It's a little known fact but economies can't grow when the population contracts.

    Every society needs young people to sustain itself but we may not notice it until it's too late to do anything about it.

    2. "People without children are happier."
    While I will agree with this premise in general, I think we should be measuring sustainable joy throughout life and not happiness. From what I can tell in the article happiness is measured by a lack of stress, attaining material possessions, and getting what I want for myself. As a young parent of 2 kids I know that most people my age without kids will beat me in every one of those categories. I wouldn't trade my kids for any of these because I know they won't bring the joy I get from my children.

    Applying the logic from the article would lead people to do nothing. Just think of a few examples of things that require a lot of work. I know that I didn't feel like it was worth it being in college for 4 years, and struggling through many classes that weren't easy. I know of others that were much happier not being in college at the time because they didn't have to struggle like I did. I know it was worth it because I understand things much better and now I can see the value of what I accomplished. I think a lot of the joy comes after you see the job you have accomplished and I think this applies to children as well.

    I know it is incredibly frustrating telling my son to do something he needs to do 14 times before he obeys. But the frustration can't even compare with seeing learn to obey and grow as a person. This is where the real joy in parenting comes from. Watching my son and daughter grow and become better people and along the way becoming a better person myself. This I think is the essential part of obtaining joy. Helping other people to grow as people. I suppose this can be done with others but God gives most people this unique opportunity to do it as parents. I just don't believe that those who actively try not to be parents will invest heavily in other's lives. It just seems too inconsistent with the underlying motivation.
    I would highly recommend having kids if you want to have sustained joy in your short time on this planet.

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 06/30/2008 3:28:41 PM

      Um...people without kids will have much more money to sock away for their retirement with or without Social Security.

      I have three kids and make a decent wage. I barely eek by due to high housing costs etc. If I was single, without kids, I'd be living large.

  • Posted By: jildal @ 06/30/2008 3:26:18 PM

    I know I'm viewed as "selfish" but I don't really care. Better off that I figure out that I'm selfish before having a kid than to burden our system with another abused/neglected child. But what about the abuse I put up with. On holidays I don't "count" at work when it comes to leaving early on Christmas Eve. "You don't have any kides!" Yeah.....but that doesn't mean I don't have a family!!!! And also, what about the abuse heaped upon society as a whole by the parents who don't teach their kids how to behave in public? Maybe you have grown accustomed to listening to your child scream but I haven't nor do I wish to!!!!

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