Having Kids Makes You Happy

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  • Posted By: mirsaw @ 06/30/2008 3:26:10 PM

    Surveys aren't perfect. I think it's safe to say that there are many more couples with children than without, which makes it more likely that the larger group has unhappy couples. Couples who have children are also more likely to have had them accidentally, as it's much easier to have children by mistake then to not have children by mistake. These couples are probably significantly less happy than any other couples. Personally, I look forward to having kids, when I am prepared and mature enough to raise independent-thinking, intelligent ones. As a guy who enjoys different experiences and challenges, child-rearing is something I can't go without. However, I also respect any couples decision to not have children. Individuals must decide what makes them happiest. I don't understand the animosity both groups have towards each other. On a different note, I wonder if this is a purely american/western phenomenon. I know that american society is very individualistic and egoistic, while other societies tend to be less obsessed with personal gains and status. I feel that raising kids in an environment which encourages them to be self-absorbed is poisonous to a household, and might contribute to some of the unhappiness and dissapointment parents have regarding their children. I think a study on this would be much more interesting.

  • Posted By: martha4yost@gmail.com @ 06/30/2008 3:24:59 PM

    I'm always so shocked when people assume that married people should be having babies any day now -- just shocked. Children bring work -- love it or make a different decision. children bring you the opportunity to learn "it's not about you" -- because i came from a large family, i learned how much work it is. since i did all that work at a younger age -- i'm not even remotely interested in repeating that thankless job. Very few children grow up to take good care of their parents -- only have chldren if you can have them, raise them, work your ass off for them and then expect nothing in return.

  • Posted By: lmlarsen70@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 2:07:57 PM

    I have 3 beautiful children - one girl and two boys. I love them dearly, in fact, so much so that it overwhelms me at times. That being said, they are a lot of work and stress!! Let's face it - they're kids and they don't beat to the same drum as we adults do. They are active, they like to run around and be crazy, they don't always do what you ask them to do (or not do), they are picky eaters, they watch the Disney channel or Spongebob Squarepants whenever the TV is on, they talk back, they beat up on each other and talk rudely to each other, and frankly they just plain drive me nuts sometimes. When they're being "perfect" children I DO feel very happy and content. When they're being not so perfect I feel depressed and stressed out.

    Don't get me wrong, I would not trade my kids for the world and do not ever wish I didn't have them!!! My husband and I both work full-time and have good careers - we both are fortunate to only work 40 hrs per week and we are very financially secure. So, yes, being gone those hours during the week doesn't leave much time to get the laundry done, cook dinner, spend some quality time with your kids (and, let's face it, sometimes "quality" time depends on the mood of the kids as much as the mood of the parents), and have some down-time yourself.

    I do find myself fantasizing about the day they don't live in my house anymore. But then I also realize I won't have their little bodies to hug and kiss and I won't hear their sweet, innocent, squeaky voices constantly talking or giggling in the background. I have to remind myself occasionally to not take life so seriously and take a time-out to enjoy these kids I love so incredibly much - because someday they won't be here with me anymore.

    • Posted By: Nikki1018 @ 06/30/2008 3:24:57 PM

      ImLarson, Very precisly put. I am to the point wher sometimes I rule out Spongebob Squarepants as a movie or cartoon option b/c I am just so tired of hearing it :) Which I realize is only one tiny thing in the scheme of life, but there are just times where I do not want to hear anymore Spongebob :) That's having kids though, isn't it?

  • Posted By: KJC03 @ 06/30/2008 3:24:21 PM

    All I know is that the older I get, the more I want. I wish I had started a family 7 or 8 years ago when I really didn't care about the finer things. Now I'm not so sure I want baby vomit on my new sofa. People raise families on far less than I make, and yet I'm nervous about the cost. If I had children when I was younger, I think I would've felt a lot more flexible about it... and I could've had them out of the house while I was still pretty young!

  • Posted By: BDaDDy @ 06/30/2008 12:14:25 PM

    I suspect that, like most surveys and research of this type, that what they are actually "measuring" is a superficial type of happiness related to our own very selfish id. Sure, I'd be much "happier" (from a very self-centered perspective) if I was eating some hot wings and watching the big game on tv than having to discipline my 7-year old-yet again-for pushing his little sister but that doesn't say anything about my long-term, deep-down satisfaction, love and happiness that I feel in seeing all of my kids grow and learn and live and love each other. It's not something that can be "measured" in a moment or even a broader slice of life. Just ask anyone who's building their own house and dealing with blisters, inclement weather, recalcitrant contractors and money woes how "happy" they are and you'll get an earfull. But measure their "happiness" over the long-haul after the petty problems are a memory and you'll get a completely different story. I don't think it's something a blunt tool like a survey can really distinguish.

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 06/30/2008 3:19:29 PM

      There is no "superficial" happiness. You either are happy or you aren't. Some people can be drenched in material goods and be extremely unhappy.

      The jury is out whether having kids is wise. I don't for a second believe a 30-something mom of a grade-schooler who tells me that she knows that the joy her children bring outweighs the consternation. that can only be evaluated after all is said and done and you know how your kids have turned out.

  • Posted By: martha4yost@gmail.com @ 06/30/2008 3:19:09 PM

    Coming from a large family, i can tell you that no, having children does not make anyone happy. It makes you very busy and very tired. As we grew older, i heard my father singing a song "If I knew then, what I know now..." and it was very clear, had he known in advance of the trouble, he would not have had so many children. Our culture is so poorly designed that parenting is way too problematic So -- if you're thinking about it -- do it because you want the experience, because you want to give, give, give from the deepest source of who you are, and because you want to learn the lesson that "it's not abou you "-- ever again -- ever -- but don't expect that experience to make you happy.

  • Posted By: Manee1 @ 06/30/2008 3:17:57 PM

    "That being said when a good family comes into being there is a depth of love and joy experienced through children that is just not possible without it. "

    I feel sorry for people who say things like this. I experience that depth of love and joy every day - for my husband, family and friends. It IS possible without kids, and to say so is just ignoring that people have different experiences. Parenting isn't the end-all, be-all mysterious answer to existence so many people claim it is - at least not for everyone. And childfree people aren't lacking in love or life experiences because they didn't take that one path.

  • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/30/2008 3:16:20 PM

    Interesting posts on here... And I am suprised at the tension between the 2 sides! You would never think this topic would be the likes of abortion or gay rights... but i digress. I am 29, newly married, and childless. I don't know what the future will bring, but what I do know for a fact is this: EVERY PERSON i know or have met with children, when they find out I do not have any, say to me "Don't have them, they are overrated!" The only person who is pushing me for a baby is my mother, and I truly feel in part she basically wants me to suffer as I made her suffer during my wanton teens. I was horrible!

  • Posted By: Fort Begay @ 06/30/2008 3:14:03 PM

    I know this study has been extended to the sex of the parent, and it turns out that fathers seem to appreciate the whole package of children, a wife, and a cave-house than mothers. I know this is blasphemy to most because in nearly all sects of religious, Christians and non-Christians, children are looked upon as the riches of life. Still in a full household, unless the mother is so organized and is militant about protocol, it becomes most hairy for her. Many people still hold parenting in the mother's corner. Imagine being raised to believe that you are destined to be a mother and admitting not getting the returns you expected or were taught to believe. It's a hard thought to digest. I sitting on the fence on this one because I can see both sides. Although my chlidren have enriched my life, our youngest can been away at science camp for a week, and my husband and I are having a wonderful time. It's date-night every night. I know I enjoy this only because I what it is like to not have the interruption-free days and nights.

  • Posted By: VoxPopuli @ 06/30/2008 3:13:34 PM

    I'm single, childless, financially independent, and, I like my life just the way it is. Travel is my "child". It keeps me focused, and, in the moment. When my soulmate comes into my life, maybe we'll have kids, or maybe not. I certainly WON'T become a parent because of peer pressure.

    Being childless means I'm not adding to our growing population, also.

    Voluntary population control is the best way to avoid more draconian policies like the ones in some countries like China, which limit the number of children which couples can have.

  • Posted By: funkblue @ 06/30/2008 3:12:58 PM

    No suprise here for me happily married 20 years and no kids. Why? the parents ask do you hate kids? Nope not at all but a lot of parents bug me and i never wanted to be one. Several friends have told me they love their kids but marraige and life was better before they had kids. I have respect for the difficlut job of being a parent so much so we chose not to attempt it. For me even marraige is big commitment in time that could be spent doing other things that my spouse wants to do but of course that is a two way street. But I sure as hell do not miss not changing diapers, PTA meetings, pre teen sports, god awfull school plays etc. Just call me UNCLE.

  • Posted By: jenbp60 @ 06/30/2008 3:11:03 PM

    Does the study show the ages of these parents? Whether most of the parents were younger or older when they had kids.

  • Posted By: rkkrause @ 06/30/2008 2:18:34 PM

    My husband and I do not have any children, it is not that we don't like children, it's just that we can't afford them.

    • Posted By: Nikki1018 @ 06/30/2008 3:09:20 PM

      Yep that's what is keeping me from another one. :) Don't want to be totally broke ;)

  • Posted By: Icearenna @ 06/30/2008 2:27:01 PM

    My husband and I have been married 25 years and 25 years ago we both agreed that we didn't want children of our own. Instead, we have become "part-time" parents to our neices and nephews. A weekend here and there was the perfect mix for us. I never regretted not having children, nor did I ever feel "less than a woman" because of that choice. The only drawback was finding like-minded friends. Both of us were career oriented and were sports oriented so we made some friends through those channels, but most were single. This wasn't intentional. Most parents couldn't go anywhere to do anything without a major production. We love camping, eating out, going to movies, dancing, and sports. Rarely do you see any married adults participating in activities. We're hoping to find more like-minded people in our retirement age group, but I doubt it. Retirees tend to be centered on their grandkids and old age. We still ice skate and latin dance. I belly dance and teach in-line skating at 62...

    • Posted By: Nikki1018 @ 06/30/2008 3:06:28 PM

      Suunds fun. I am a mother but I completely understand your choice. I actually have some friends who are like minded to you. It is true we don't participate in many activities. I"ve in lined skated once in like 2 years. And I love my son, but it is completely true that it is a production even with only one child to do things like beach days and vacations.

  • Posted By: jenbp60 @ 06/30/2008 3:05:43 PM

    I wonder if this study show the ages of these parents. Were majority of them teenagers when they had their kids?

  • Posted By: solvera @ 06/30/2008 2:59:17 PM

    I agree with the folks who think childbearing (or not) is a personal choice and I don't think there's one right or wrong answer for everyone. I do get a little annoyed at holier-than-thou parents who say things like "well you can't know happiness until you've had a baby". I do not fault them for being happy but I also think there's enough natural variation in the human race that people don't *need kids* to be happy either.

    In my own life I think I have a nice compromise. I'm 30 and my boyfriend (who was previously married) has a seven-year-old son. I love spending time with them, I love the "cute little boy" things that the son does but none of it makes me want to have a kid myself. I think I'm more of an auntie than a mom.

    That doesn't surprise me...I tend to find happiness in alot of ways that women haven't historically done as much as men (such as fixing cars, playing with tools, furthering a VERY fulfilling career with no desire to have a man be the breadwinner of the house). I guess I'm going a little off topic...in general I'd say that if we loosened up a little and started responsibly looking at stepping outside the "norm" then society would balance out in the long run.

  • Posted By: Nikki1018 @ 06/30/2008 2:54:33 PM

    The rest of my comment.

    I find purpose both in having my son but also in what I will be able to achieve in the future. I did finish college so a career would be possible but I would also love the luxury of raising a another child full time. At the same time I empathize with those mothers who are home and feel depressed or useless b/c they are not out in the world. Please to all of you, find someone to help watch your children, find someone to talk to who will understand your desires without critiism. I relate, b/c when I was in college I felt useful and now although I know raising my son should be as important and fulfilling also for me I don't find the same satisfaction in it. It is a back and forth rope we all walk when we become mothers. Everyone needs to find the point in rope that makes them as content as possible.

    Ultimately I hope my son will grow up into a well adjusted man who will love me forever as I will love him. I also hope he will have a family who will stay close. Even as I enjoy the fact he is getting older I also desire more children for the same reason. I want family to exist around me as I age. I want grandchildren who love me and children who remember who gave them life and love as they grew up so they will return that to me. That is what I want, and that is why I do have children despite the fact that "my happiness percentage points" might be lower than those without children.

  • Posted By: Nikki1018 @ 06/30/2008 2:54:09 PM

    I think my comment got lost, so I'll re-post. I think this survey states the obvious (although I am not saying it has no purpose or merit). Life with a child (or children) will be harder than life without. It makes sense this would "reduce" your happiness level. It is an exhausting, expensive, and oftentimes thankless job. Aren't people most happy when they indulge in something that they personally enjoy? Yes perhaps for some this is children. It think that IS possible, especially ina situation where a mother describes children as her purpose in life. And that is a WONDERUFL thing that people that selfless exist. Because to raise children requires self sacrifice, no doubt about it.

    I adore and love my son, but every night when he is sleeping peacefully in bed I enjoy having my TV back, cleaning up when there is no one to make ANOTHER mess, reading a good book that I've been halfway thorugh for a MONTH, or just the quietness and relaxation of taking my evening bath or shower. That is where I notice that I am happy. Being with my husband after my son is asleep is also something I constantly look forward too. It is nice and reminds me of a more peaceful and selfish existence.

    At the beach with my son, it iswonderful to see him having fun and I love it all. At the beach by myself, it is peaceful and relaxing, not near as exhasuting due to the fact no one needs sunscreen, drinks, food, hikes to the bathroom. I like both equally, but I would bet that my happiness level is happier when I am alone. This is because then I focus on my needs, there is least anxiety and worry and even fatigue or exhaustion when I have no one to keep up with myself.

  • Posted By: oldcathay@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 2:53:43 PM

    I'm tremendously happy without children, and could not pursue my full-time career as a climate change scientist or my numerous hobbies if I had kids. With all the carbon reductions I'm responsible for, I am doing far greater good for the planet than I would by simply being a mom, plus I'm giving the breeders more opportunities to overpopulate and destroy future standards-of-living and biodiversity.

  • Posted By: oldcathay@hotmail.com @ 06/30/2008 2:53:33 PM

    I'm tremendously happy without children, and could not pursue my full-time career as a climate change scientist or my numerous hobbies if I had kids. With all the carbon reductions I'm responsible for, I am doing far greater good for the planet than I would by simply being a mom, plus I'm giving the breeders more opportunities to overpopulate and destroy future standards-of-living and biodiversity.

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