Having Kids Makes You Happy

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  • Posted By: lionrampant @ 07/03/2008 2:29:06 AM

    When I hear people talk about how they feel about their children, it always sounds like heroin addicts talking about the high once the drug hits the bloodstream. "Nothing else compares or matters; you'll never understand how profound it feels; you will die for it/them" et cetera. Man, I don't EVER want to feel that obsessive about anyone or anything! What a lot of baggage. I love my child-free life and it isn't about material things or selfishness at all. It is about having the time and the opportunity to learn and grow and give back to the world and experience life in ways that a life centered on taking care of dependent children makes impossible. People caught up in raising kids have no idea how the rest of us live, either, or how rich our lives are. Mine is anything but boring or empty. Thinking of everyone I know with kids, I cringe at the thought of living their lives. Their stories are so bizarre, and yes, like those of addicts. They go on about the most god-awful, nightmarish experiences and problems with their children, but then they finish with ???Oh, but it???s all worth it!??? Like hell it is. I???d want to fake my own death. Frankly, I question their sanity. But someone has to carry on the species, so I???m fine with leaving them to their delusions of happiness. Really a parent???s love for their children has to be like a drug addiction. Otherwise no one would survive infancy, and certainly not their teenage years! My mother spent her whole adult life raising children and is the most miserable person I know. She never had time to discover or develop herself as a person and, now nearing the end of her life, is basically an empty shell. Sure, she loves us, but that's just the addiction-like effect. I feel sorry for her and all those like her.

    • Posted By: ZenGarden @ 07/09/2008 12:09:29 AM

      This is the best comment on this thread! The fact that you riled the troll Guru adds a cherry to the cake! I feel exactly the same about my child-free, diaperless universe.

    • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 9:10:36 AM

      You are so blatantly ignorant. It's no wonder that you think your life is bliss. XD

  • Posted By: muzicbox9 @ 07/03/2008 6:04:07 AM

    Man, this has turned out to be a contentious subject huh? I think that Guru dude several comments down is just a wind up artist coming on here to stir things up. If so ... job well done! You've entertained me!

    Anyway, I just had a kid 3 months ago. My first one in my 10 year marriage. I never really wanted kids. I had developed a whole militant philosophy on why having kids was a pathetic, selfish activity carried out by people who weren't developed enough to resist their own primitive desires. Talk about hypocrisy huh?

    All I know is that I got to the age of 33 - saw that my husband really wanted to have a child and thought that if I didn't have one now ... I might really regret it later. What if I got to 45 and thought, 'I'd really like to have a child' but then it would be too late? I'm old enough and wise enough to know that people's wants and desires can change.

    Now I have a child and man it's hard work. She's cute, a little cynical and not easy to coerce. I think she's on to me. ;) She'll probably ask me one day why I brought her into this sh*thole of a world, just like I asked my parents at the age of 16, and all I'm going to be able to say is ... 'Duh ... don't know, ask your Dad'. But I can also say, 'Well, we are all here too ... the sun still shines, there's plenty of places to explore, and you'll always have someone that loves you (me and Dad), so it can't be all that bad'!

    As I read some of the fired up comments here, which come down on both sides of the argument, I realize that it's not about anyone having all the answers. It's about choice. if I choose to have a kid, then I choose not to be able to spend as much time developing myself as an individual anymore. But, at 33 I feel I can rest on my laurels for the next 18-20 years without feeling like too uninteresting of a person. Plus I can still manage to read a good book here and there and get out and about to have a good time. I'm a parent, I'm not dead.

    Plus me and the kid are bound to have some good times together. I plan to teach her lots of stuff about life ... how to be respectful and disciplined while also enjoying herself. There's lots to enjoy. I think the bottom line is that we all need to keep our noses and judgements out of other people's business. We all have our reasons for either having, or not having, kids and nothing anyone else will say, for or against what we feel, is going to change that.

    Does having kids make you happy? Not anymore or less than not having them, as far as I can tell.

    • Posted By: ZenGarden @ 07/09/2008 12:03:09 AM

      "But, at 33 I feel I can rest on my laurels for the next 18-20 years without feeling like too uninteresting of a person."

      Wow, thanks for making me feel better about deciding to stay childfree, no offense. I intend to live life to the fullest, in a diaper-free universe.

  • Posted By: kluca @ 07/08/2008 10:44:15 PM

    Happiness is different from joy. As the parent of two children we adopted who are both young, I admit I am not always "happy". However, I believe that fulfillment and knowledge that I am providing a loving home and family for my kids and the joy they bring me is immeasurable. We were married 7 years before having children and I can attest that there are different types of happiness and joy and dificulties for that matter that each season of our life together has brought.

  • Posted By: heyjackieday @ 07/08/2008 4:30:54 PM

    Of course childless people deserve to be happy as well, but I hope they aren't mistaking pleasure for joy. As for those unhappy parents, my heart goes out to them. Perhaps it is a sign that our society is failing at training, supporting, and encouraging those who are living the family lifestyle. Sacrifice is involved, but isn't sacrifice giving up something good for something better? You have to know the bad to fully enjoy the good.

  • Posted By: wheresmje @ 07/08/2008 11:42:24 AM

    Clearly, if someone does not want children, it is their right to not have them. The world would be a better place if the people who truely desired to have children were the only ones who did. I love having children around. I want them. It is a joy for me to take care of them. It is a joy for me to teach them things. That is where I have been gifted. I have met people who had children because it was "the right thing to do," women who have left careers to pursue a family that they never really wanted, and I feel bad for their kids. To say that people who can realize that they are not gifted to properly care for children are making excuses is very short sighted. In this country we do have the right to pursue happiness and if someone does not want children, who am I to say that they should? It's not an excuse if it is the truth.

  • Posted By: wheresmje @ 07/08/2008 2:20:33 AM

    I can agree that all people shouldn't have children. That would be like saying all people should become doctors because doctors are happy. If it isn't your thing or if it is going to make you unhappy, why would you do that to yourself? I have five children, three biological, one adopted, and one foster child, and they are the joy of my life. So just because it isn't someone else's thing doesn't mean that it is no one's thing. I won't tell you how you should live your life as long as you don't try to tell me how to live mine.

  • Posted By: ShellyOhio @ 07/07/2008 10:45:57 PM

    I hate to break it to you baby-lovers who think you have experienced some deep love with your children that those of us who choose to remain childless will never feel -- I have the exact same feeling with my dogs! I ADORE them! I can't stop watching them learn, grow, and play. I love to take them places or give them a treat and see excitement and happiness on their faces. And I love that they adore me back, that they get so excited each and every time I come home. We are so bonded, and we are a family, and my heart aches when I think about how much love I have for them. The best part, they will ALWAYS be this cute and sweet. Unlike kids, they won't learn to say no, or cry and scream when they don't get their way, or demand that I spend tons of money to get them the trendy clothes or toys. AND they won't grow up and turn into people, ugh, I could do with a lot less dumb people in the world. Especially irritating, stupid people who try to make everyone conform to their views and opinions.

    • Posted By: Tacocat27 @ 07/07/2008 11:52:05 PM

      I completely agree, though I'm sure you're going to get a lot of sh*t for saying that from parents who will accuse you of comparing their children to dogs. I have three dogs whom I adore with all my being. No I don't dress them up or talk to them in baby voices, nor do I refer to them as my "children" but I love them unconditionally. As far as I can read, all of the arguements from parents on here claim that children bring them the following: unconditional love, respect amusement, joy, life lessons etc...well to me, my dogs dp exactly the same. Call me pathetic I don't care, I understand they aren't actual human beings, but honestly I almost prefer that sometimes. If I want human interaction I have my friends, and family for that. Before you parents make the arguement that they aren't your flesh and blood, neither are those couples who adopt. No my dogs can't talk, but they can communicate none the less. By no means am I insinuating that your children are comparable to dogs, in the sense that one is human, the other animal, but if people find complete and unconditional love in their pets, who are you to say it is less than it is?

  • Posted By: maggie6282004 @ 07/05/2008 11:00:14 AM

    Of course having children doesn't make you happy. Neither does marriage, for that matter. Keeping a family together is hard work and self sacrifice interspersed with moments of pleasure at seeing your commitment pay off. When you leave the hospital, you are given a large packet of materials to read about the upcoming challenges: nursing, teething, sleep, etc. When you adopt/foster, you are given materials to read about the upcoming challenges: blending a family, dealing with behavior issues, etc. Maybe my packets were missing something, but I didn't get the government leaflet that said, "Parenting: Prepare to be Happy!" What kind of a nutbag goes into parenthood, or marriage, expecting it to make them happy? Sometimes you get a special needs child, or a special needs spouse, and you are still their parent, still their spouse, only now your work load is doubled. The joy comes from having a higher calling - the joy comes from making it work, getting it right, and every once in a while being able to sit back and really enjoy it.

    Parenting is NOT for everyone, which is why there are contraceptives available to those who don't want kids, and adoptive/foster parents for the children that are the victims of those less responsible. We have four kids; two biological and two foster/adopted. Sometimes we look at our friends without children and wish for a weekend or two of their lives, but overall we feel good about the decisions that we have made. I know that sometimes our friends without children look at our lives and wish the same thing. There is no right or wrong here, just a bunch of really personal decisions that can only be made by each individual. As a foster parent, I wish that more people would give their reproductive decisions the kind of effort and time that some people have put into these comments!

    • Posted By: lostlo @ 07/07/2008 8:45:55 PM

      "What kind of a nutbag goes into parenthood, or marriage, expecting it to make them happy?"

      LOTS of people. Teenage mothers have children so they'll have unconditional love. People in bad relationships have children to save their marriage. Many people have children so that someone will be obligated out of guilt to take care of them in old age - isn't that sweet? Or of course, the best reason to have a child, oops I got pregnant!

      They are all terrible reasons for having children, but lots of people use them. They are nutbags, but they are incredibly common, if not the majority of parents.

      The unfortunate thing is, people like me who carefully weigh the decision and her ability to effectively raise a child end up not having them, while more irresponsible careless types have a litter of them.

      If I ever think I'm up to the task of raising a child well, I will adopt one of the many kids the nutbags don't want. I totally don't understand the arrogance of those who would spend many thousands of dollars to have their own genetic offspring, totally blowing off the many unwanted children who desperately need a loving home.

  • Posted By: slayer @ 07/07/2008 4:49:20 AM

    Only the people who WANT kids should have kids, all those who dont, shouldnt. Dont reproduce if social stigma is your reason for feeling pressured to have kids. Dont have kids "accidentally", they will come to KNOW about it and hate you for it too. Being unwanted and/or knowing that they are mistakes or by-products of their parents sexual lust will screw their perspective of themselves an they may not turn out to be the ???good human beings??? everyone here is crowing about. Kids should be conceived with spiritual thoughts, not in a lustful and carnal frame of mind, if you dont want them to turn into psychopaths and antisocial elements. Having kids out of selfishness, to be looked after in old age or to fulfill your dreams, or to find a "purpose" in your life are not good enough reasons. And reproduction is not the only opting if you do WANT kids. You can adopt orphans, especially those that are not being adopted just because they are unpretty, mentally or physically challenged, etc.

  • Posted By: DisciplineIsFreedom @ 06/30/2008 11:10:57 AM

    The way I see it, my unborn children do not suffer, but as soon as I birth them into this world, there suffering will most surely begin. I couldn't live with it myself. Sure, there are those joys when you see the kid happy, when you take care of them and watch them delight in all you do for them, when you see them learn and move towards independence, but you know their delight will be short lived. You have a sense of the adulthood that awaits them, not to mention all the suffering that awaits them even before adulthood, in their teen years. You say you will try to do your best, your kids won't be gunned down in school, live in fear of being gunned down in school, or be the one holding the trigger. Not your kids. But you know you don't really know. Those parents where it is their kids also thought it wouldn't be theirs. And so on. You bring them into the world to suffer so that you can live off the bliss of their ignorance and innocence while they are young and their caretaking when you're old and they're trying to raise a family themselves, feeding off them like a parasite while sentencing them to a life filled with suffering. Is that really what you mean to do? If not, don't do it.



    My parents loved my sisters and I a great deal, and to this day my mother says that having children was the thing she is most happy about from her life. Great for her, but even with all the joys, accomplishments, good friends, and good times, it's been a heck of a lot of suffering for us. I'll create the meaning in my life for myself, and save for my own retirement, thank you. I don't need kids for life purpose and old age slaves. I'll also pay the taxes that send your kids to school and give them parks to play in. I'll volunteer and send money to child-friendly causes. If you're a friend, I'll send gifts at the right times, listen to you fret and complain about all the stress of parenthood, and maybe even help with school expenses if you come up short. I want to help you ease your children's pain as much as I can. I just wish you wouldn't have caused it in the first place.

    • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 06/30/2008 1:56:35 PM

      Wow - what a stunningly bitter person you portray yourself to be. The overriding experience I observe in my children's existence is joy. Life is amazing, and beautiful - fascinating and uplifting, and I am delighted to have given my children the chance to experience those feelings. Not every moment is bliss, but I think being human is the greatest privilege there is. I am sorry you are unable to see that.

      • Posted By: DisciplineIsFreedom @ 06/30/2008 4:25:53 PM

        Actually I'm not bitter at all. I would only be bitter if I was forced to have kids while knowing full well what I am doing to them in the act. I experience life as filled with variety, and don't kid myself about the amount of suffering included within that all around the world. I don't think I have to really illustrate all the lives of suffering people endure, particularly once you get outside the nations that are stealing the Earth blind by taking more than their share of planetary resources. And I'm sure that your kids are mostly experiencing joy right now. That's beccause they are privileged American kids being shielded from the harsh realities of life. You can feed off their joy for now. Let them fill you with joy as you watch them delight over things that no longer hold meaning for you. That's exactly what I mean by the parasitic nature of the relatioship. Better you should learn to rediscover your own inner delight (as I have) without having to use another person to feed off theirs.

        • Posted By: ReginatheHispanic @ 07/06/2008 4:50:08 PM

          LIfe is hard. That was enough reason for me to decide not to have kids. Thank you for articulating this, DisciplineIs Freedom.

  • Posted By: Minervah @ 07/05/2008 11:36:08 PM

    to the person that wrote about oprah - i think she could have had children and really really been changed by it." I disagree. Oprah has taken the path in Life that is best for her. Instead of being insular and focusing on a biological child, she is free to help many of the world's children who so desperately need help. In any case the decision is hers and hers alone to make. Having a child would not make her a better person.

  • Posted By: elfbane5@msn.com @ 07/05/2008 4:52:35 PM

    PART 2 read post below this first.

    Anyhow, I went back to school after a 2 year break and got my design degree. I had so many offers and options, character design for a major animation studio, reputable design firms, even a few international opportunities. Last but not least, a teaching position at a small Tech High School to teach Design. I'd been designing for years, not just as a student but as a professional so I thought, why the heck not? Being around these kids over the last several years made me grow up and mature in ways that I never expected. I hadn't realized how empty I really was. I learned so much from them, and what so many people are missing about their own kids. Yes teenagers do stupid things, yes they can be rude, yes, even I occasionally would love to shake one a little and ask them, what were they thinking, but the fact is, they still dream, they are still mostly unruined by life yet.

    Being around them (if you have the right attitude), can really remove so much negativity from your life. I'm told often about how crazy I am, and why didn't I take much higher paying positions in the design field. My response is that I'm making a difference. I work with so many kids whose parents abuse them, they've given up on them, or they just flat out can't get along with them. It's not that they hate them, they just can't handle the weird things kids do once hormones kick in. So many of them are emotionally disturbed from all the fighting in their houses, they can't even communicate with their families. I deal with cutters, emos, anger problems, drug problems, abuse, neglect, rape, you name it, and it???s walked into my classroom.

    These kids depend on me in many cases as the only positive adult interaction for their entire day. If I had a dollar for every "adopt me" I've ever heard I could take them all out for sushi, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

    My point after this long winding post is this. Kids may not make you happy, or they might be the only shining beacon in your life, It's relative to the person involved. If you gain meaning in life through creating them, fine. If you don't have them, you can still have meaning if you want it.

  • Posted By: elfbane5@msn.com @ 07/05/2008 4:48:49 PM

    Just because someone choses to not have children, doesn't mean they are stupid, lazy, or immature. Not everyone is suited to parenting, and there are many, for the love of god, that should have done the human race a favor and skipped passing their genes on.

    I do not have children, nor do I plan on having any. I may later adopt an older child however if I feel the need. I just don't get all warm and fuzzy when I see babies, I usually run in the opposite direction. I did discover I have a maternal instinct, but for the most unloved portion of our population, teenagers. Believe me that came as a shock.

    Before anyone can even think about making some snide comment about teachers and innappropriate relationships, just stop. The thought of teachers abusing their positions like that makes my skin crawl, those people need to be punished more severly then they already are and maybe get a healthy dose of electro-shock therapy.

    I stumbled into teaching, I didn't plan on becoming one. I went to school to become a graphic designer, but when the Tech bubble burst after 9/11, I was laid off as well as my husband. I hadn't yet finished school so I decided to take a break from school and try to get my mind centered again. Neither of us could find work, and out of desperation I took a Substitute Teaching job because getting design work outside of the city wasn't regular enough to depend on. Imagine my shock when I discovered I actually ENJOYED it. Subs see the best and WORST of student behaivor, so I even thought I should have my head checked.

  • Posted By: Red poppy @ 07/05/2008 3:25:11 PM

    There are women who have no maternal instinct whatsoever: the idea of being pregnant, giving birth, nursing and raising children is totally unappealing if not downright disagreeable. Frankly, we don't - gasp - even find babies especially cute. As far as I can tell, our childhood hasn't been less happy than other women's. Besides, there's nothing unselfish about having kids. Motivations include passing on your genes and name, living up to people's expectations and having someone to keep you company in old age. Sadly, retirement homes are full of old people whose children never come visit. In my experience, happiness definitely doesn't depend on having kids.

  • Posted By: Minervah @ 07/05/2008 2:18:20 PM

    For those of you who state the joy and ecstasy of having kids, good for you. But don't ever tell others they will absolutely feel the same. There are too many parents out there who do not find such happiness and take it out on their kids. We hear about child abuse everyday in the news Don't be so presumptuous as to say that everyone will feel the same as you . If it doesn't happen, it's the kids who will suffer.

  • Posted By: catherinekuo@hotmail.com @ 07/05/2008 4:47:44 AM

    wow, i can't believe this article. i waited 8 years to have a kid. my husband and i were adamant that it wasn't for us. then my grandmother died and we really started thinking more about family. Now that we have a toddler in our late 30's, we regret not having kids sooner. and we are so thankful we didn't have trouble getting pregnant. so many of our friends in their mid-30's are having to seek treatment. it is hard work, the sleepppppsleepless nights (esp the 1st 6 months and hardest thing we have ever done, but he is the besthing that ever happened to us. it absolutely changes your life and lifestyle. but it is worth it. the people that don't feel that way, are really the ones that haven't been able to shift the attention off themselves and to their children. our society and the media that pelts us every day is so focused on "ME" that it has made the basic function of raising a child, a complete inconvenience to living your own free lifestyle. raising a child teaches you so much about yourself and your spouse, how to work together, and how amazing and wonderful the world is through their eyes. you also have to be positive and not always focus on the negative. of course it is crazy hard to be sleep-deprived (esp that first 6 months), and to never be able to get on the computer during the day-time. But almost everything in life has it's trade-offs and that is most certainly worth the amazing, fresh perspective on life that having a child brings you. and like the author says, you can't imagine loving someone so deeply as your child until you've had one, and to have that child freelylove you back is the most heart-warming experience you will ever have. i can't get enough of his soft,star-fish hands on my cheeks, and hearing him say he loves me too before kissing me. you all should try it in your life-times!

    • Posted By: Mrs. Danvers @ 07/05/2008 12:53:14 PM

      The only thing missing fron this sanctimonious drivel is "butterfly kisses" (whatever the hell they are).

  • Posted By: catherinekuo@hotmail.com @ 07/05/2008 5:14:41 AM

    and to copper12 - you are right, i think parents work too much for shallow/material things too. lots of parents work 2 jobs just so one can pay for day-care. ridiculous! and you are right, i think non-parents see value in life and little moments just as well, but i do think having a kid opens up a new area of life's little moments that are so amazing. it is hard to think of a really good analogy for it, but it's kind of like having a house that you already really love, but then adding a new sunroom to the house that you love to spend time in. and to seas004 - we hated the "how many children?" and "so when you going to have children" questions as well. but now that we have a kid, we understand why people ask. and people will always be opinionated, i am sure you have plenty too. we're all entitled, that's what makes us people! if you really don't like where something is going, like my comment, just stop reading. that's respectful as well. also to the person that wrote about oprah - i think she could have had children and really really been changed by it. even her friend Gayle has said she thinks Oprah would have been an indredible mother. but her focus is so much on her career - even through helping people, it has always been a part of herself, who she is and her desire to grow/develop herself. i love her, love her show, watch it a lot, but i don't think she has ever really stopped to focus on family. it has always been about her own path. i think she is one of those people that will always put her job/her passions first. i think her boyfriend knows and accepts that he is secondary. if you read her bio on wikipedia, there are a couple men that loved her that she broke up with b/c they wouldn't follow her or b/c she felt she didn't have time for a relationship. i think the reason she has been with Graham for over 20 years now, is he allows her to lead and is willing to be there when she needs him, not much more. i don't think a woman like her would tolerate any less, for that long. esp now, with the type of power she has, any man would have to take a back seat and she found that in Graham. anyways it is 2am pst and i am rambling now. even i know whan i have gone long. he heh...

  • Posted By: catherinekuo@hotmail.com @ 07/05/2008 4:40:52 AM

    wow, i can't believe this article. i waited 8 years to have a kid. my husband and i were adamant that it wasn't for us. then my grandmother died and we really started thinking more about family. Now that we have a toddler, we regret not having kids sooner. it is hard work, the hardest thing we have ever done, but he is the best thing that ever happened to us. it absolutely changes your life and lifestyle. but it is worth it. the people that don't feel that way, are really the ones that haven't been able to shift the attention off themselves and to their children. our society and the media that pelts us every day is so focused on "ME" that it has made the basic function of raising a child, a complete inconvenience to living your own free lifestyle. raising a child teaches you so much about yourself and your spouse, how to work together, and how amazing and wonderful the world is through their eyes. you also have to be positive and not always focus on the negative. of course it is crazy hard to be sleep-deprived (esp that first 6 months), and to never be able to get on the computer during the day-time. But almost everything in life has it's trade-offs and that is most certainly worth the amazing, fresh perspective on life that having a child brings you. and like the author says, you can't imagine loving someone so deeply as your child until you've had one, and to have that child freelylove you back is the most heart-warming experience you will ever have. i can't get enough of his soft,star-fish hands on my cheeks, and hearing him say he loves me too before kissing me. you all should try it in your life-times!

  • Posted By: cozz729 @ 07/04/2008 10:13:16 AM

    A small sample of what I've heard (from strangers) by living child-free by choice: "Doesn't your husband want children?" (If he changes his mind, he can have them with his next wife."), "You must have had an awful childhood." (No worse than yours.), "How would you feel if your mother didn't have you?" (How would I know the difference?), and the worst smug offense: "You'll change you mind." (You must be highly intuitive, since we just met.) Others think they are entitled to explanations. So I turn it around on them: "I don't ask you why you have only 2 kids instead of 12. Unless you've only had sex 2 times. But that would be none of my business. Wow, I hadn't considered that!??? Lastly, there is the hurled litany of how selfish I am. How selfish is it to think that you're so great that the world needs more of you? Did you cure cancer or make a 150 mpg car? How selfish is it to use more of our depleting resources for oil, corn, rice and even water to sustain your expanding household? I???ve put more thought into why I didn???t want children than most people put into why they did. If you???ve been guilty of some of the above comments, kindly take a look inward before you go running your mouth.

    • Posted By: erinlovestoread @ 07/04/2008 12:41:00 PM

      LOL, yeah, I get the same comments about not being married yet. I made a conscious decision to pursue my education first (I'm currently getting my master's) and, lol, it's not like I have a choice in the matter as I haven't had a date in two years. I went to this kind of reunion thing at my old church just this past weekend and ran into an old friend of my parents. I had my hands in my pockets so she couldn't see that no, I don't wear a ring on that so important finger. She points to my left hand and says, "So, are you married yet?" I think people just don't think before they speak sometimes - I know I'm guilty of that myself. That and they don't realize how something like that, or the stuff said to you, can be hurtful as it just seems logical to them.

      • Posted By: SEAS004 @ 07/04/2008 11:38:24 PM

        I know exactly how you feel! I am in my early twenties and I have decided that A: I want to continue my education B: Get to know adult life solo C: I REALLY do not think that everybody needs to or should marry or have children. It is a PERSONAL choice. I am so sick of hearing the same question, "So when are you getting married?" or "How many children do you want?" Honestly it is none of anybodies business. I respect peoples decisions regarding their lives and I'd hope they would reciprocate that very respect. BUT there are always those who can not seem to keep their opinions out of your life. I just ignore them I know what makes me happy and what I want.

  • Posted By: speale @ 06/30/2008 2:05:23 PM

    It is an individual's decision whether or not to have children, and I don't judge those who choose not to have children. However, after reading some of the comments here, I believe that many of those without children are deceiving themselves. Do things like travel, freedom from responsibility, and not having to parent really compensate for not having children? It doesn't matter what you own, or where you travel when weighed against the love that chil

    • Posted By: copper12 @ 07/04/2008 6:24:54 PM

      *groan*
      I see parents choosing to work more and more just so they can have the big house, SUV, put their kids in too many activities, etc. at the cost of family satisfaction. These are all shallow things. Quit acting like parents know the real value of life and the little moments more than non-parents. Gimme a break. You can have love in your life without giving birth!!!!

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