Having Kids Makes You Happy

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  • Posted By: SEAS004 @ 07/03/2008 1:42:53 PM

    I will repost the comment I wrote before:

    Comment: This article certainly sparked heated debate. Wow.
    That said, I think that there is one thing that today's global society lacks: RESPECT. Honestly this is not a black and white topic People have different reasons/motives for having/adopting children or remaining childfree. RESPECT them. Honestly are those that disagree with you truly harming you? No. People come in all forms, some wonderful, some so-so, and others are just plain old horrible. Everybody exists for a reason, some people opt to procreate or adopt and subsequently raise children, others choose to forgo becoming parents. What it comes down to is: It is EACH individuals VERY PERSONAL decision. You made your decision, they made theirs. To each their own and hopefully everybody is content with their decision if not that is ashame but you made the decision and now you must live with it. And by living with it I mean: Do the absolute best you are capable of in your given situation, no matter what it may be.

    It is none of my business to judge your decision nor is your decision my business to judge.

  • Posted By: elderbeetle @ 07/03/2008 1:30:39 PM

    How does anyone measure happiness?

  • Posted By: guera @ 07/03/2008 11:36:23 AM

    muzicbox9...I love what you said. I've been with my husband for 18 years and we just had our first child. I've lived the childless life for a long time. My husband and I had tons of fun in our 20's and 30's. We traveled, we partied, we did everything imaginable and everything we desired at a moments notice. Now we are financially secure and have settled down in our wild ways. We were ready to have a child. Now we can dedicate the rest of our lives to this wonderful bundle of joy. And yes...he is a bundle of joy. There are moments when our son cries and we can't figure out why. Most nights when we're up every hour on the hour to feed him or put the passy back in his mouth. And of course....there are moments we wish we had our old life back. But.....I can honestly say...I'm happy. I was happy before my son....and I'm happy now. Seeing him smile or hearing him giggle is so joyous. And I can't wait to take him to all the places we have seen and do all the things we have done....but this time with our son. I can only suggest that people should wait a few years (not as long as we did) to have children. Have fun...enjoy your youth. You'll have great stories to tell your children about your life before they came along. Well...maybe not...HAHAHAHA!

  • Posted By: bequialife @ 07/02/2008 7:25:51 PM

    I get plenty of unconditional love from my cats. Good thing is I know they won't grow up to be alcoholic, drug addicted bums, nor juvenile delinquents.

    • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 9:51:18 AM

      You get "unconditional love" from your cats? lol... Will your cats take care of you when you're sick? Will they help you around the house? Will they talk to you when you need someone to confide in? You're an idiot, if you think a cat even comes close to measuring up to a human...

    • Posted By: Happy Mom @ 07/02/2008 7:32:25 PM

      I am glad you are happy with your cats and they give you unconditional love. My cats are rather aloof. However, I wanted to clarify- my children don't give me unconditional love- My love for them is unconditional. Even if they turn out to be delinquents, I will love them the same and be glad I had them and have known this love.

  • Posted By: rajesh_tcs@hotmail.com @ 07/02/2008 8:31:59 PM

    Its interesting that clueless writers like you get a chance to write articles here. I am sure you have not experienced parenthood. I am not saying this because of some kinda blasphemy as you suggested... but true experience. Authors like u want to discredit even institutions of marriage and all other relationship. Its like that childhood story i read the animal concludes "Grapes are sour.. since he never got to taste them". Are you depressed?

    • Posted By: childfreeandlovingit @ 07/02/2008 9:38:05 PM

      If you read the article carefully, you'll realize that the author actually has children of her own. Ergo, 'sour grapes' argument doesn't hold.

      • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 9:43:27 AM

        There are plenty of idiots that have children that aren't parents. Anyone that would choose a martini over their child is a complete fool, not to mention the fact that they should be publicly horsewhipped, and there's no way that I would ever refer to the author as being a parent.

  • Posted By: Julia_D @ 07/02/2008 9:01:45 PM

    As the bumper magnet on my sexy Mini Cooper convertible says: "No kids for me - I'm childfree - and loving it!" Loving every minute of seeing mom and dad going crazy, while I relax and enjoy!

    • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 9:39:17 AM

      "while I relax and enjoy!"

      Once again I repeat, those that choose not to have children are selfish, lazy, and immature. Here was see yet another example of this. Thank you for helping my case. ^^

  • Posted By: creepychrishanson @ 07/02/2008 10:38:19 PM

    I find it funny those that say having children is "selfless"; when in reality its perhaps the most selfish things one can do. Noone asked you you to bear children; those that did it did so because THEY wanted kids--no other reason. The children certainly didn't ask to be born.

    Have them, don't have them--I don't think anyone really cares either way. All having children proves is that you have functional genitalia, it doesn't make you any better of a person. But please--don't attempt to make those of us who don't want children feel guilty because we choose to live live for other reasons than procresating.

    Those talking about the population not carrying on..is that really a problem??

    www.vhemt.org

    • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 9:30:33 AM

      "Those talking about the population not carrying on..is that really a problem??"

      That is a prime example of selfishness, as well as stupidity. Your I.Q. must be incredibly low.

  • Posted By: npowell28 @ 07/03/2008 3:48:51 AM

    I am concerned about Guru's mental state. GURU1976, seek help. You are a sad and angry person. If you say the words "bond", "maturity" or "personal desires" again; I may vomit. You have told people to kill themselves, that they are uneducated, that their husbands are losers. You are quite possibly the unhappiest person on the planet. If this is the "joy" that your kids are giving you, then I will schedule that tubal ligation tomorrow. You are a very very very sick person. Those kids are screwed, you better save your money for therapy now.

    • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 9:15:25 AM

      If I am unhappy, as you seem to think, then it is a direct result of the abundance of stupidity in this world. For instance, you took time to create a post to insult me, but were too lazy to put some thought into why I believe the things that I believe or even to put some thought into why you believe the things you believe. You have not added anything valueable to the conversation, yet you probably expect people to treat you as an adult. Go play, kid. Grown folks are talking here.

  • Posted By: radiohawk @ 07/03/2008 5:37:41 AM

    Kudos to your article. Does having kids make you happy? All I can say is, you have to make your own happiness, with or without children. I'm 39 and have gotten married for the first time just two years ago. Since our marriage, people have been inundating us with endless questions like "when are you having kids?" My wife and I do plan on having a family one day, but it's going to be on our terms alone. We're enjoying our life together with our various hobbies, and we don't intend to have children until we're both good and ready for it. We're happy with who we are and we don't need a child to depend on for our own emotional well-being, nor will we raise our child to feel that way, either. I feel that if you try and relive your life through your children, of course you're going to be unhappy. You have to maintain your own identity, and have your own interests, dreams and desires, and that you don't have to put these things on hold just because you have a child. I personally look around me and see how misbehaved kids are today and keep telling my wife how much better we'd be at parents. Because we're older (my wife is 35), I don't regret us putting off our decisions on family until we were older and more stable. We were able to save and have an opportunity to give any children we have a decent future, unlike having to struggle like we both did.

  • Posted By: aselvarial @ 07/03/2008 5:36:23 AM

    moment in First i must say that I have no kids, and no plans to have any. However, I have many friends with children and eagerly await having nieces and nephews to spoil. I personally do not think my husband and i are happier than my friends with kids. I can't even say it is quieter or that we sleep more, as we have pets, so I don't see what the big deal is. I must admit, I HATE being told that we will "change our minds" at some unforeseeable

  • Posted By: SEAS004 @ 07/03/2008 3:36:30 AM

    This article certainly sparked heated debate. Wow.
    That said, I think that there is one thing that today's global society lacks: RESPECT. Honestly this is not a black and white topic People have different reasons/motives for having/adopting children or remaining childfree. RESPECT them. Honestly are those that disagree with you truly harming you? No. People come in all forms, some wonderful, some so-so, and others are just plain old horrible. Everybody exists for a reason, some people opt to procreate or adopt and subsequently raise children, others choose to forgo becoming parents. What it comes down to is: It is EACH individuals VERY PERSONAL decision. You made your decision, they made theirs. To each their own and hopefully everybody is content with their decision if not that is ashame but you made the decision and now you must live with it. And by living with it I mean: Do the absolute best you are capable of in your given situation, no matter what it may be.

    It is none of my business to judge your decision nor is your decision my business to judge.

  • Posted By: violet520@hotmail.com @ 07/03/2008 3:29:40 AM

    alisa-anne, thanks so much for your comment, lol. I have the utmost respect for people who chose to have kids, but as of yet I have none and I'm not sure if I ever will. I'm perfectly content with that, and have every intention of living a fulfilling life regardless. I have the utmost respect for parents, you're job is certainly a far cry from easy and I believe every word of what you say is true about how rewarding it is. But with that being said, I'm still not sure if it's for "me". It's very upsetting when you're constantly having to defend yourself to others, and it's so refreshing when you come across someone who has the sam respect for you as you do for them. I wish you the best with your family! :)

  • Posted By: alisa-anne@hotmail.com @ 07/03/2008 3:13:04 AM

    violet520, the reason parents are online at this time of night is not because of the nutcase you posted to, it is because this is the only time there is not a clingon stuck to you like a horse fly. Right now my house is wonderfully quiet. This is my alone time, and I love it. Hun, kids are great, but enjoy your life, and screw the freaky soccer moms. They have nothing better in their lives than to live through their children and slowly kill their hubbys.

  • Posted By: alisa-anne@hotmail.com @ 07/03/2008 3:06:54 AM

    Ok, I have six, (yes insanity) but I must agree with the study. I am a parent, my husband and I choose to have our kids. I am and engineer, he is a dirt digger. We own a home, cars and the fun stuff, our kids go to a great school, and every Christmas is amazing watching my little demons smile and run amuck. Now, having said this, yes it is more stress full. Life is tougher, more hectic, even all out crazy and loud sometimes. I do not care if it was planned or and omg what the hell happened baby. You do not know what being a parent is until you have no slept in a week, and worn vomit clothes in public. Look like hell warmed over, stared at a wall for an hour just because it can???t talk back. If you say no, not true, you are either not a parent, or a freak of nature, or honestly out right full of it. Remember, the old lie all parents tell themselves, my kids won be like that.

  • Posted By: alisa-anne@hotmail.com @ 07/03/2008 3:06:40 AM

    Ok, I have six, (yes insanity) but I must agree with the study. I am a parent, my husband and I choose to have our kids. I am and engineer, he is a dirt digger. We own a home, cars and the fun stuff, our kids go to a great school, and every Christmas is amazing watching my little demons smile and run amuck. Now, having said this, yes it is more stress full. Life is tougher, more hectic, even all out crazy and loud sometimes.

    I do not care if it was planned or and omg what the hell happened baby. You do not know what being a parent is until you have no slept in a week, and worn vomit clothes in public. Look like hell warmed over, stared at a wall for an hour just because it can???t talk back. If you say no, not true, you are either not a parent, or a freak of nature, or honestly out right full of it. Remember, the old lie all parents tell themselves, my kids won be like that.

  • Posted By: Badlands1790 @ 07/03/2008 2:58:30 AM

    The "purpose" of humanity based on every animal before us is procreation, but every other animal has to deal with predators, disease, and a struggle to obtain food, which we have pretty much ridded ourselves of. For this reason, procreation is not beneficial to any animal but humans. The more people there are on Earth, the more resources we use, the more ecosystems we damage. Screw the impact on personal health, screw the impact on societal health, we as humans have overstayed our welcome.

  • Posted By: stacey98 @ 07/03/2008 1:37:54 AM

    Do the results of those studies take into consideration or differentiate between parents who chose to conceive chilldren and those who accidently got pregnant and had a child. I feel like that would make a difference in the stat numbers & percentages.

    I feel like those who planned their pregnancy and felt ready for children may have a different overall perspective than those who may have had their child come about via an unplanned pregnancy. Which is not a bad thing at all, I'm just saying I know for a fact many families are started accidently...and a bit sooner than one really wanted if at all.

  • Posted By: exkr123 @ 07/02/2008 4:02:25 PM

    What a depressing story! This was written to simply make all the people who think not having kids is the right thing to do - or the thing to do nowadays - fine if you choose so. But I can tell you that if you choose to not have children, you will miss out on one of the most precious things you can experience in life. Nothing else compares to the feeling you have towards your child. Sure, it is challenging and stressful at times but so is your career and everything else for that matter. Why not experience a greater reward than money by making it your goal to bring up better people in this world that you can be proud of and can call your family. So have your frozen drink on the beach in Thailand - I've already done it and will do it again later - right now, I'm experiencing a new joy (and challenge) in my life that I can tell you I will NEVER regret!

    • Posted By: Tacocat27 @ 07/02/2008 4:19:44 PM

      Ah yes, because thats just what all of us childless people do, sip drinks on the beach all day. What a clever observation! In fact, when I get home from the beach tonight I'm going to go clubbing, then sleep in till 2 in the afternoon, because there is absolutely no way I have a career and responsibilities, me being childless and all. Yep, I'm just a selfish immature woman who will lead a meaningless and unfulfilled life just because I don't feel the need to breed. I'm glad you have me all figured out!

      • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 1:36:06 AM

        That's right. You will lead a meaningless life that only results in you fulfilling your own personal desires and will never know what it is to be an adult. Use your career as your copout if you want to, but those of us that have done both are only laughing at your achievements that are dim in comparison to our own. To add salt to the wound, you are missing out on the joys that having a child will bring, as you are too lazy and selfish to put forth the effort necessary.

      • Posted By: dblag1976 @ 07/02/2008 4:36:18 PM

        In response to Tacocat27, I am a mom, and I enjoyed your response to the parent who has you all figured out. Bravo!!! I may be a parent, but I also still have respect for those who choose not to have children.

    • Posted By: childfreeandlovingit @ 07/02/2008 8:49:51 PM

      I beg to disagree. I love my babies...2 lab mixes.

  • Posted By: jwong3388 @ 07/03/2008 1:32:05 AM

    Is man really that selfish that the consideration to have or not have children depends on whether the children will make him/her happy? Puh-leeze ... children are not commodity to be had for one's personal aggrandizement!

  • Posted By: TheAndy @ 07/02/2008 3:54:17 PM

    My comment isn't in regards to motherhood nearly so much as parenting in general.

    The decline of it is, at best, tragic.

    I'm sorry if some find this offensive, but I don't understand how anyone can put a career before shaping the life of another.
    Fine, make money. There's nothing wrong with that. Except a large number of americans daily do not know what they're missing when they trade the opportunity for a slightly larger paycheck.

    Please note that I'm not talking about whether or not women should have careers, rather I'm talking about parenthood in general.
    Of course parenthood is difficult. But so is pursuing a career. The difference is that raising a child to be a good person is far more rewarding than climbing the social ladder.

    I heard it described like this. When you have an smashing career, the scary truth is that you could easily just be replaced. Theoretically, you could be booted out and replaced by some college-age smart-off and in a few years not be remembered.
    But if you are a parent? No one else can be "mommy" or "daddy" to your child. When you become a parent, you become irreplaceable.

    Sometimes it is okay to experience difficulty when you're doing it for the good of another, for the future of another.

    • Posted By: ariesgal63 @ 07/02/2008 3:56:48 PM

      bravo TheAndy...good point..I totally agree with you 100%!

      • Posted By: Tacocat27 @ 07/02/2008 4:11:34 PM

        How do you know that having children is more rewarding than moving up in a career? That is quite simply a baseless assumption. What if in your career you miraculously discover the cure for cancer or some other terminal illness? I think that just might cancel out bringing one little life into this world. There are plenty of people who's careers are rewarding enough without having to have children. Who are you to say those people's lives have less meaning just because they rank their priorities different than your own? I'm getting real tired of people assuming that just because you choose a career over having children that automatically means you're just looking for more money and wanting to go bar-hopping every night. Thats ridiculous! Why must you make such blatent misjudgements just because that person's life differs from your own?

        • Posted By: Guru1976 @ 07/03/2008 1:29:54 AM

          So many of you idiots are trying to make this into a career vs. parenting argument, but have you ever thought about the fact that some of us have worked harder and have accomplished both? Grow up and become an adult like so many good parents.

    • Posted By: childfreeandlovingit @ 07/02/2008 8:53:59 PM

      So you're saying we should stop being doctors and scientists, and just stay home and breed?

      • Posted By: neecee @ 07/02/2008 11:44:36 PM

        NO.....I have a doctorate degree and a great job.. which is flexible for my children......earned my doctorate while working full time and raising 2 kids while my husband was in Iraq... yes.. lots of sleepless nights....a career and parenting can be done.. with good balancing........that was my choice...but I know of one woman who decided on having a "high powered career".. .how she put it... and they never had kids.. yes.. they had a big beautiful house...... but she was so busy working that they never took a vacation.... then she lost her job.....she has been employed off and on since... and is 50......I don't know if they regret not having kids.....but makes you think twice.....a career/good job can happen with or without kids....

    • Posted By: LanRolo @ 07/02/2008 5:35:33 PM

      well you know what if you want a kid fine. but what if you have no money, no real way to support the child? guess what? a good job can actually help you. without that job you cant give the child a good life. enough said.

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