Candidates Think Flip-Flopping is the Only Way to Win Elections

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  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/08/2008 1:49:48 PM



    Bush was the biggest mistake the American voters have ever made and we will be regreting it for generations to come.

    Jr and the Devil (Bush & Cheney) are a detriment to The United States and our Constitution

    To be sure the signers of the Declaration of Independence represented the enfranchised classes of Englishmen, but they also knew the difference between a republic and a kingdom and they understood the significance of a government based on a written consititution. Writing under a pseudonym in the Boston Gazette in 1774, John Adams both asserted the English origins of the new republic and its aspiration to something different when he famously quoted the English republican theorist James Harrington's call for an "Empire Of Laws And Not Of Men," strategically substituting the word "government" for Harrington's "empire." We have in the last seven years seen a sustained and often successful effort to replace that government of laws with something closer to the royal prerogative against which Harrington wrote in 1656.

    As I look at and read your post I do see some resemblance of sense in your distorted view of the world in which you believe that as most people who live the tainted life of a right wing conservative deeply rooted in the Hamilton faction, that the invasion/occupation was not a lie made up to protect the Us Oil Industries interest in the Middle East.

    A fool to be made in his own skin is by his own hand. You are just a trumpeter for antiquated ideals that have seen there day. We have been played as pawns as well as you have for to long. Some people just don't get it.

    It is us The American people who are the agents of change and Barack Obama is the best that we have in that effort to get it. Get It? Well I doubt it!

  • Posted By: Chloe123 @ 07/07/2008 4:38:44 PM

    You can''t have Change without sacrafice- what are you willing to sacrafice? Obama wants your soul. MCCAIN wants REAL CHANGE without the sacrafice of taxing you. Which do you prefer?


    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 7:40:12 PM

      Obama wantto reutrn the Soul of this country that has been dripped dry by the Bush Klan. Obama will not be "TAXING" me, or more than 85% of Americans, we don't make that much money...duh.

      McCain wants "REAL WAR FOR OIL" and more "REAL DEAD AMERICAN CHILDREN" McCain wants MORE WAR YEARS and MORE BBUSH POLICIES....which do you prefer?

      • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/07/2008 8:10:55 PM

        Our country has never been a socialist country. How can we be returning to something that we never intended to be in the first place. Bush hasn't drained the soul, McCain doesn't want our children dead. Your tired rhetoric is nothing but fear mongering.

        YOU WILL BE TAXED - don't fool yourself there. You may not think you make much money now, but when the wealthy are robbed of their works, they become poor, or at least you become "equivalent" with them. Now you are the rich... it is a vicious circle. The soviets did the same thing. They went to socialism, took farm land away from the land owners and gave it to the "poor". When the poor didn't produce food the same way their predecessors did, the land was taken away from them. Then they were complaining that the state took from them (yet never complained when it was taken from someone else to be given to them). This type of system is a vicious circle where the only winners are government officials who are corrupt and "exempt" from such decisions.

        One you allow a government to reign over you, you start to slowly lose everything - including your freedom

        • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/07/2008 9:46:33 PM

          You really miss the point. The only winners for the last eight years have been Special Interests and a select few (including Bush, Cheney and group who now look to really get pay back after leaving office, Bush has even bragged about it) all while the majority are given only apathy, subterfuge and the costs. You are right that we don't need big government but we sure do need an honest government sincerely interested in the people - that is the change we really need. Not more of the same with McCain.

          • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/08/2008 11:29:37 AM

            Agreed - we need honest government. This is where the US people need to hold our congressmen and senators accountable. They are supposed to represent us, not special interest groups. Yes special interest groups are the only winners, the rest of us lost out for example on cost of fuel because some fool thinks an animal will be distrubed if a pipe line exists in its area... It isn't the President who is to blame (Democrat or republican), it is our other elected officials who have let us down. That is where the focus should be. During the past 8 years, if you want to look honestly, it has been a battle from congress stopping progress. They have not liked Bush from the beginning and have fought at every turn. They add pork (both parties) in order to get things passed that otherwise couldn't stand on their own merits. It is not the President in these day to day problems, it is congress. When we hold them accountable and scrutinize their votes on issues, then maybe honesty will start to return. If the representative is NOT representing us, we should get him/her out of office. Whether it be the next vote, or if we don't want them screwing things up more - there should be a way to remove them from office earlier (like impeachment). After all, how many times does congress call for impeachment of a president at the drop of a hat? The same should apply towards them. They are actually the biggest problem in America. When we realize their failure instead of blaming a President, then we can start taking control of our country back.

            • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/08/2008 1:00:52 PM

              Again well said but lacking in an honest presentation of the facts. For six of the last eight years Bush had a loyal majority in the congress and got away with a whole lot. Even now the Democratic majority is too narrow to override the President's vetoes. The President and the Republican Party are very definitely the blame for so much of what has transpired and always with the benefit to Special Interests and a select few. To try to minimize all of that is much like the deception they continually try to sell.

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 11:48:34 PM

          Oh I don't know, ret, I'm pretty sure that healh care for ALL would not cost 12 billion dollars a month now would it?...lol

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/07/2008 10:14:58 PM

      Are youon crack? You are going with the Obama wants you soul thing??? Ya your smoking something.

      Look at it this way.

      McWar wants you to die for oil!

    • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 7:19:14 PM

      Chloe, what kind of garbage is this? Obama wants your soul? And McCain won't tax you? Are you on drugs or something?

  • Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/06/2008 2:08:35 PM

    The issue flip-flopping will pale in comparison to Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan. Attention people: Birds of a Feather. And most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. McCain will win this election.

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/06/2008 3:16:42 PM

      As far as I am concerned, you are confusing the issue and getting mired in BS. If you want more of the same, then however you rationalize it that is your choice. I myself want a chance for change as I can clearly see we desperately need it. I realize there are no guarantees but what the other choice guarantees, we have had too much of already.


      DECISION 08:
      __________________
      MORE OF THE SAME
      or
      CHANCE FOR CHANGE,
      your choice!
      ____________________
      (that is all there is, the rest is BS)

      • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/07/2008 8:20:50 PM

        Beware for false "Hope & Change" rhetoric ... the wolf is dressed in sheep's clothing. McSame is much better than Sen. Phony-Boloney.

        • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/07/2008 10:15:17 PM

          It is much more risky to count on a continuation of more of the same with someone that offers no hope! Beware of the wolf admitting he is a wolf and promising to continue as is.

          • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/08/2008 9:44:38 AM

            Don't confuse a veteran that admits that he's not perfect, nor the messiah, with the wolf.

            IMHO Sen. Phony-Boloney's fangs will show sometime between now and November.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/06/2008 5:08:38 PM

      Hi and welcome to Sean Hannity's "TALKING POINTS 101"...Please get caught up with the current "TALKING POINTS" I mean at least make itinteresting...

  • Posted By: Politicswithagrin @ 07/08/2008 9:02:35 AM

    It is disheartening to watch candidates who were previously considered "refreshing" fall into the typical mold. However, if they didn't fall into this mold, would they ever get elected?

    http://politicswithagrin.blogspot.com/

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/08/2008 7:11:35 AM

    I've noticed several posted comments that exhibit strong support for John McCain without demonstrating any objectivity. I feel I can say that because what they depend on is simply name calling and irrational character assassination of Barack Obama while also trying to create an unjustified superior image of John McCain. They can be very crude or more subtle and may even exhibit some level of knowledge but always fail to deal with reality. They are very persistent and show an irrational bias that seems more committed than just being an average voter who has made a conscious decision, more like someone who is affiliated, which is a possibility that would explain the lack of objectivity. It is usual that they will only address the over all picture with sweeping accusations of Obama and similarly unmerited general credits for McCain, freely excusing the War in Iraq and other discredits as single issues of no/little importance. They want to talk about Barak???s supposed limited experience and McCain???s military and vaster senate experience as if those items had far more weight than reality justifies. They purposely neglect addressing the many issues that have been so important over the last eight years and that have shown the Bush-Cheney administration completely focused, with the strong and full support of the Republican party (including John McCain), on solely providing benefit to Special Interests and a select few (who return support and considerations) while arrogantly giving the majority apathy, subterfuge and the costs. They use blanket accusations like Democrats raise taxes, have give away programs and are big government who over spends but again they neglect reality in not admitting that, even without considering the war, that the Bush administration has out spent, including more 'pork', than any previous administration, has drastically neglected improving infrastructure and has failed numerous times, like with the Katrina fiasco, while always benefiting the same few.
    (continued below) (Sorry it took me twice to get them in the right order.)

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/08/2008 7:06:32 AM

    I???ve noticed several posted comments that exhibit strong support for John McCain without demonstrating any objectivity. I feel I can say that because what they depend on is simply name calling and irrational character assassination of Barack Obama while also trying to create an unjustified superior image of John McCain. They can be very crude or more subtle and may even exhibit some level of knowledge but always fail to deal with reality. They are very persistent and show an irrational bias that seems more committed than just being an average voter who has made a conscious decision, more like someone who is affiliated, which is a possibility that would explain the lack of objectivity. It is usual that they will only address the over all picture with sweeping accusations of Obama and similarly unmerited general credits for McCain, freely excusing the War in Iraq and other discredits as single issues of no/little importance. They want to talk about Barak???s supposed limited experience and McCain???s military and vaster senate experience as if those items had far more weight than reality justifies. They purposely neglect addressing the many issues that have been so important over the last eight years and that have shown the Bush-Cheney administration completely focused, with the strong and full support of the Republican party (including John McCain), on solely providing benefit to Special Interests and a select few (who return support and considerations) while arrogantly giving the majority apathy, subterfuge and the costs. They use blanket accusations like Democrats raise taxes, have give away programs and are big government who over spends but again they neglect reality in not admitting that, even without considering the war, that the Bush administration has out spent, including more ???pork???, than any previous administration, has drastically neglected improving infrastructure and has failed numerous times, like with the Katrina fiasco, while always benefiting the same few.
    (continued below)

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/07/2008 10:19:55 PM

    Appears Hussein is a man of character, after all. I just picked up this thank you letter due to be released across the country, to all his supporters. I apologize for all my negative comments. He may well be the Messiah...........

    My fellow Americans:

    As your future President I want to thank my supporters, for your mindless support of me, despite my complete lack of any legislative achievement, my pastor's relations with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan dictator Moamar Quadafi, or my blatantly leftist voting record while I present myself as some sort of bi-partisan agent of change.

    I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal behavior somehow qualifies me for the Presidency after 8 years of claiming Bush's youthful drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is a beacon of hope shining over a sea of political posing.

    I would also like to thank the Kennedy's for coming out in support of me. There's a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though JFK started the Vietnam War, his brother Robert illegally wiretapped Martin Luther King, Jr. and Teddy killed a female employee with whom he was having an extra marital affair and who was pregnant with his child. And I'm not going anywhere near the cousins, both literally and figuratively.
    And I'd like to thank Oprah Winfrey for her support. Her love of meaningless empty platitudes will be the force that propels me to the White House.

    Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or achievement, but because I make people feel good.
    Voting for me causes some white folk to feel relieved of their imagined, racist guilt. I say things that sound meaningful, but don't really mean anything because Americans are tired of things having meaning. If things have meaning, then that means you have to think about them.
    Americans are tired of thinking. It's time to shut down the brain and open up the heart. So when you go to vote, remember don't think, just do. And do it for me.

    Thank You.
    Barack Hussein Obama,


    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/08/2008 7:03:45 AM

      Funny but distasteful. It would be nice if you could develop some discipline for taste and fact.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/07/2008 4:15:57 PM



    Continued From Above:

    To that effect, and even though there are many who come close, I can't name another presidential-quality politician who's shown himself to be better suited to achieve these broad goals. Despite how we feel about individual issues like FISA or NAFTA, I think most of us with liberal or progressive tendencies can agree that we have a candidate here who is going to succeed on these challenges, while potentially forming a long-range coalition of support that could one day result in a purely progressive netroots candidate.

    Those of us who have been strapped into this dark ride -- arms and legs locked into the tram, following these crimes and scandals and unconstitutional measures for too long... we've been damaged a little. We've been round-house kicked in the throat once too often. Sometimes by members of our own party. So it makes sense when some of us express shock or disillusionment at the actions of a politician regardless of their party affiliation. Besides, there's nothing wrong with criticizing the friendlies (though we're told that, politically, it might be wiser to keep our powder dry until after Senator McBush is soundly defeated). But what has served to keep me sane during these last weeks -- or saner -- has been the broad-stroke recollection of why, irrespective of the finer points, I decided to back this guy named Barack Obama for president in the first place.

    If we're able to deliver the mandate he'll require in November -- which means a solid electoral college victory and expectations-defying down-ballot victories -- Senator Obama will help to vindicate our long-suffering, dark ride generation and, thusly, our time in American history -- a time that seems to be so perfectly summarized in thumbnail-form by this current Summer of Awful. If we can keep our attention focused on the big ideas that attracted us to the senator in the first place, he will make us proud.


    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/07/2008 6:55:18 PM

      Well said, but as a moderate (who leans to the right), I couldn't disagree with you more!

      Please BO supporters open your eyes! This guy will say everything and anything to get your votes. I know that I joke around a lot, sometimes too much. But electing our next President is no joke!! Sorry for being so blunt here, but I'm starting to see this guy like a chronic abusive husband that keeps telling his wife over and over again that I do whatever it takes to make things right. This guy is unbelievable! So sly he scares me.

      I try not to talk about and/or push religion on anyone, but please Lord, let the truth be known! This guy is not who he claims or seems to be.

      I'm pretty much of the same opinion of a lot of other folks her: I do not think for a second that JM's a saint, but he's a far better choice than BO in terms of his centrist backround and overall experience.

      May God bless "OUR" WORLD!!!


      • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/07/2008 10:43:17 PM

        We all pray and hope that whoever makes it will do what is right for the country, us individually and the world. As you infer, saying that doesn't lend us any credibility in fact it always seems like a veiled attempt to gain acceptance.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 8:53:01 AM

    This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines Barack Obama's connections to a number of key individuals and organizations. In some cases, these affiliates are notable for the leftist views and objectives they share with Obama. In other cases, they are notable for their collaboration with Obama in controversial or unethical activities. In all cases, they offer a window into Barack Obama's values and priorities. Taken as a whole, they verify Thomas Sowell's observation that Obama has "spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America."


    Radical and Socialist Influences:

    Saul Alinsky
    Bill Ayers
    Carl Davidson
    Frank Marshall Davis
    Democratic Socialists of America
    Bernardine Dohrn
    Gamaliel Foundation
    New Party
    Socialist Scholars Conference


    Political Allies and Advisors:

    Ali Abunimah
    Mohamed Salim Al-Churbaji
    David Axelrod
    Gregg Craig
    Jim Johnson
    Marilyn Katz
    Anthony Lake
    Robert Malley
    Alice Palmer
    Eli Pariser
    George Soros
    Cass Sunstein
    Dorothy Tillman
    Joyce Wheeler
    Tim Wheeler


    Religious Affiliations:

    Louis Farrakan
    Rev. Joseph Lowery
    James Meeks
    Rev. Otis Moss
    Rev. Michael Pfleger
    Rev. Al Sharpton
    Jim Wallis
    Rev. Jeremiah Wright


    Organizational Affiliations:

    ACORN
    Arab American Action Network
    Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, P.C.
    International Crisis Group
    MoveOn
    National Council of La Raza
    Planned Parenthood Federation of America
    Project Vote
    Sojourners


    Academic Affiliations:


    Rashid Khalidi
    Edward Said
    Cornel West


    Foundations:

    Joyce Foundation
    Woods Fund of Chicago


    Money Scandals:

    Nadhmi Auchi
    Robert Blackwell, Jr.
    Tony Rezko


    Family:

    Michelle Obama
    Raila Odinga

    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/07/2008 8:24:01 PM

      Thanks Willnotvoteobama! Keep spreading the truth!!! I pray each and everyday that come November the TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN!

      • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/07/2008 10:17:50 PM

        I agree with your prayer but know that if it comes to be, McCain simply won't be the winner.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/06/2008 5:11:10 PM

      WOW and he has only 2yrs, and is SO "inexperienced"...

      IMAGINE WHAT MCCAIN HAS DONE IN HIS NEARLY 80YRS...I mean besides not die yet.

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/07/2008 3:55:55 PM

        POST IT THEN HUSSEIN DAVIDSON !!!

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 7:42:29 PM

          I shall do just that, brace yourself sister ;)

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/07/2008 8:06:42 PM

            OK, here we go AGAIN...

            After BARELY passing the Naval Academy, McCain's shows his LACK of desire to TRULY serve his country by crashing 5 fighter planes in his BRIEF 20hrs of combat before being shot down. Upon his capture McCain immediately and with such "bravery" announced his father was an Admiral, knowing they would not harm him if he was 'important", and according to the 2 American commanders who were in the same camp at the same time as McCain, NO AMERICANS WERE TORTURED in that camp...including McCian. The VC had a very special feeling for McCain and special name to go along with that feeling, he was called "SONG BIRD" because as soon as he was captured he began to sing.
            Then some years later at the begining of his "political career" he stood before American POWs in Az and SWORE he would NEVER use his "ststus" for political gain...lol, yeah he really held up that deal.
            Than came the 80's (not his age) and the "Keating 5" you can google that one, to se McCain's part in the scandal.
            and the list goes on...
            His involvement with Hagee, his involvement with Cheney, his conection to almost EVERYTHING BUSH, his 100yrs of WAR FOR OIL, his complete ignorance on the economy, his silly gas tax scam that would have cost hundreds thoussands of US jobs, and we still would have paid...he still clings to that one.

            There is plenty more he has such a LONG record...of CORRUPTION and FLIP FLOPPING, but just with what I have posted here...you need more?

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/06/2008 10:58:31 AM

      DECISION 08:
      __________________
      MORE OF THE SAME
      ??? or ???
      CHANCE FOR CHANGE,
      ??? your choice!
      ____________________
      (that is all there is, the rest is BS)

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/03/2008 11:43:09 PM

    ObamaramaPandering:

    In politics, pandering is when Obama portrays views to fit in line with a certain crowd of voters (Jewish, blue collar, NRA, etc.) in an attempt to impress, when often, these are not the candidate's true beliefs. Obama many times may engage in pandering out of desperation if he is has certain segments of voters not flocking to his special Kool-aid drinking cult groups or when he starts to lose ground on certain issues, proposed plans, etc. Sometimes this can happen twice in the same day about the same topic depending on how different the audience is that he is pandering to.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/04/2008 12:13:34 AM

      Sharenews, Obama is not pandering and his supporters are not in a cult. You're grasping at straws again.
      Oh, does this mean you are an official McCain supporter?

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/04/2008 3:27:57 AM

        Im just having fun is all. My spouse is ready to hit me over the head to vote for McCain, but I dont count it out yet. So I like to play devils advocate too.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/04/2008 9:31:47 AM

          And I'm just trying to get a rise out of you, that's all. I know you'll come around and supp. Obama. I have seen the signs. Btw, your spouse sounds very nice.
          Have a good holiday today weekend. Be sure to come back on Monday... everyone seems to be leaving....where are Dref and Tired and Old?

          • Posted By: loriw @ 07/04/2008 2:00:23 PM

            dreffin has been around but I fear Tired and Old is gone for good and that makes me sad as I do miss his humor.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/04/2008 5:50:34 PM

              Hi lori. Dref told me she was taking some time off from the blogs. I hope Tired and Old is not gone. He didn't even say goodbye! Let's hope he is on vacation, and that he returns after the conventions.

              • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 7:16:34 PM

                he's on the blogs and has been looking at obama very closly and i think he is changing his stance on obama he's very unhappy about the flip flops and i've invited him to the McCain camp web site !!

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/05/2008 9:28:35 PM

                  We are talking about Tired and Old, not olderwiser. They are wo different posters.

                  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/07/2008 4:00:07 PM

                    JUST SO YOU KNOW THEY BOTH SOUND SMART AND THEY BOTH SOUND LIKE THEY WENT TO SCHOOL WITH McCAIN !!!!

                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/07/2008 10:14:13 PM

                      But they don't support him!

                  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 12:24:20 AM

                    Yes, I didnt know that and was confused at first. Thanks for confirming . . .Im sure others might be scratching their head a bit too.

              • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 7:20:07 PM

                Comment: Comment: Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/05/2008 10:58:21 AM
                Comment: Barack Obama had the right as a U.S. Senator to go to look at Iraq. He did not. Then, one of his big vote getters was a promise to get us the hell out of Iraq. Now, nominated, he plans to go to Iraq to see if he needs to change his mind. I voted for him principally because he promised to get us the hell out of there. If he goes there and comes back to endorse staying there, then I reserve the right to flush my Obama vote down the toilet.

                HERES PROOF THAT THE OBAMA MESSIAH IS FALLING APART!

                • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 2:10:25 AM

                  Yeah, and the main reason for Obama getting his skinny but over to Iraq is due to McCain saying: Nah, nah ....nah, nah, nah. You have only been there once Obama , over 900+ days back with no talk of going over to Iraq to check out the real deal of where things stand by talking to the generals/leaders on the ground out there fighting this war on terrorism. Now Obama is going to Iraq. Well, thank you Mr. McCain for getting Obama to rise to the ocassion to find out first hand what conditions are over in Iraq. And oh, yeah, and thank you for giving me (Obama) for getting my little loophole in now given I might actually find out that a pullout in exactly 16 mos may be too rash a timeline (but at least tooting that steadfast timeline got me the democratic nomination). Geesh..

                  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 2:12:38 AM

                    Obama flip flops more than a Chinese acrobat!

                    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/07/2008 8:26:11 PM

                      He he hee ....

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/04/2008 3:29:45 AM

          ,,,, I mean my spouse will hit me over my head IF I vote for McCain. LOL

  • Posted By: befair @ 07/07/2008 1:02:55 PM

    This tired over used flip-flop charge worked so well for the GOP in the last election, they just drug it back out and started using it again. It is a tactic people, and so many are falling for it just like before. Sen. Obama is not flipping he is simply being logical and intelligent. Why in the world would we want him to freeze his thinking on any given subject, simply because he had an idea or a plan once and it sounded good to him so he will just hold fast to it while ignoring new information that may require adopting a new plan or adjusting the one he has. If I am not mistaken, our current President prone to this kind of thinking and look what it has done for us!

    • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/07/2008 8:14:12 PM

      if you are going to be fair as your name implies, maybe you should not be so one sided. Both republicans and democrats have used this and several other lame excuses over the years. So to blame only the GOP is extremely UNFAIR

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/07/2008 4:16:21 PM



    We could wait a lifetime for a skeleton key presidential nominee to come along who flawlessly interfaces with each of our pet issues, and, consequently, we'd probably die a politically disappointed and overly cynical death.

    What attracted me to Senator Obama's candidacy wasn't that he was going to evolve into some kind of liberal messiah who I would agree with all the time. He never really made any promises of that sort, and it was clear -- especially to Kucinich and Edwards supporters -- that Senator Obama wasn't entirely in line with what are generally considered to be netroots or progressive causes. Rather, he's always been the pragmatic liberal whose every slogan and statement -- often employing the collective pronoun "we" -- seeks common ground between deep blue and blood red. He's the liberal who this week, while simultaneously reaching out to evangelical voters, issued an unequivocal statement of opposition against any constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. That's textbook Obama.

    After I read the letter of support he sent to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club, I remembered why I chose to support the senator's campaign -- and why it evolved into an enthusiasm for a politician that I've never quite experienced in my adult life. So why then...? In the simplest terms possible, choosing to support Senator Obama has never been about issues, but rather, it's always been about, 1) electing a thoughtful, smart president we can reference with pride -- a president who won't flatly embarrass us every damn day, and 2) electing a president who can inspire and negotiate the necessary support he'll need to roll back the darkness of the Bush years.

    Continued below:

    • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 7:24:30 PM

      GREAT POST Driver! You did it again.

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/07/2008 2:42:48 PM

    UH-OHHHHHH.....Sounds like a GOP implosion......

    Conservatives to battle McCain over platform!
    Activists don???t want his views on warming, stem cells, other issues adopted!

    Washington Post
    updated 12:21 a.m. ET, Mon., July. 7, 2008

    "Conservative activists are preparing to do battle with allies of Sen. John McCain in advance of September's Republican National Convention, hoping to prevent his views on global warming, immigration, stem cell research and campaign finance from becoming enshrined in the party's official declaration of principles.

    McCain has not yet signaled the changes he plans to make in the GOP platform, but many conservatives say they fear wholesale revisions could emerge as candidate McCain seeks to put his stamp on a document that currently reflects the policies and principles of President Bush. "

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25561143

    Not only will he lose, but ol' McC won't have a "political" home after November.

    BTW, has anyone seen the Electoral Map? Obama leading 238 to 163.....OUCH!!!!!

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/07/2008 1:27:26 PM

    DECISION 08:
    __________________
    MORE OF THE SAME
    or
    CHANCE FOR CHANGE,
    your choice!
    ____________________
    (that is all there is, the rest is BS)

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 12:18:13 AM

    Message for Pia:

    Hi Pia, I responded to your reply down below. This one: Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/03/2008 18:49:54 . Talk to ya tomorrow.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/07/2008 12:30:52 PM

      Hi sharenews, read your comment below, thanks.

  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/03/2008 4:13:58 AM

    Well, well, well if it's not retardmarryanne, confused citizen, willneverVETOobama, what a sad bunch of sheep, where is your shepard, CornHiolyO? For you are still lead astray...
    NO, repeat NO, none of the 25,000 pieces of weapons, ammunittion, and explossives were from IRAN!!! NOT ONE!!! Now even though the US weapons EXPERT inspectors said NONE were from Iran and teh "press conference" was canceled immediately, you still have the likes of Judas Lieberman, Jon Kyle, john McCain, George Bush, LYING TO YOU!!! And like good little sheep you eat what ever you are fed.

    McCain is a JOKE! If he wants to end the "debate" abouthis experience, OPEN THE FILE! Sweet little "SONG BIRD" let's have a look at your 32 propaganda films, or maybe the 5 crashed fighter panes, how about just a look at your "grade point average" whle in the Naval Academy..hmmm?
    If you are NOT asking people to die for NO GOOD REASON...like OIL! It matters NOT if you have "served", if you are just in your cause, and you seek advice of true military leaders, LEGAL, HONESTY, and GOOD choices can be made...If you are a stuborn a$$, people die, over 4500 so far.

    What exactly do you THINK or imagine you are "protecting anybody from?..the brown boogeymen? give me a break.
    I'm fine without you protecting me from YOUR PHOBIAS...ok, alllrighty then.

    McCain is the biggest flip flopper and overall loser there is, search "McCain v. McCain on YouTube, it spans years weeks days, hours, and minutes...he flips on himself in11 minutes, he does NOT know what a Kurd is, he is confused by sunni and shia, who will he kill there? Hopefull teh right "brown guys". He's too coinfused better go into Iran,yeah that's the trick. If Bush starts another WAR just wo win the election, it will be the END OF McCain as we know him, please, (if wecould only do it without killing more of our children)bring it on you f@$king dick, GW are you ALL truly so DESRERATE, you would go to a THIRD WARjust to try and win four more years of BUSH? YOU SICK F@#KS!

    McCain teh flip flopping NON-HERO! 08 or 80 you choose lol

    • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/03/2008 2:57:34 PM

      Hardly a brain davidson.... well well, back at it huh? Lets talk flip flopping shall we... Obama can't keep his policies straight for a week without flip flopping yet you complain that McCain changed after years and world situations changed. I like the way you will leave Obama out of your rants in an attempt to divert the truth. Same old HD.... You mention deaths... again that has been addressed before. Why is it you aren't outraged about your buddy Clinton doing nothing - which between the terrorist attacks during his administration, and 9-11 which resulted due to our inaction, cause more deaths than this entire war. Why do those deaths not count for something in your rants? Either way, people have died. At least the ones in the military knew what they were getting into. War for OIL? that same rhetoric is beyond stupid and pathetic. If it were a war for oil, do you think we would be paying this much? How do you explain the oil contracts going to countries who didn't liberate Iraq from a tyrant and didn't put money into their country? Yep, same tired crap. Only consistent oil blame could go to Gore and his democrat followers who at one time made the comment that the government should artificially inflate the cost of oil so it cost $5 a gallon for gas. Well your global warming hero and his cronies seem to almost have hit their goal.

      There are so many counters to your stupidity it is mind boggling. I don't care much for McCain, but Obama is much worse - this idiot wants to change our entire American way of life into that adopted by socialist countries. And he has mindless idiots like you touting his horn. If you want that... denounce your citizenship and move to a different country where these policies are already in place and leave us freedom loving people alone.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/03/2008 7:33:31 PM

        I agree with you RetiredMarine. This week they were talking on the news about how( now that gas is so expensive) the demand is down and they expect the prices to come down in response. Supply and demand is still the biggest driver of the gas/oil prices.
        I talked to yet another soldier yesterday, asked him if he felt we should pull our troops out. He had been to Iraq so I felt he was qualified to give and opinion. He said if we pull out before we have accomplished what we went to accomplish then those soldiers who died have died in vain. I have yet to talk to one person who has been to Iraq that disagrees. Sadly more people are concerned about the economy than the war (and yes, I know there is a relationship there) but I think too many Americans are imposing there personal anti-war opinions on our military and not listening to those who are there and have been there. I don't want to see any of our soldiers lose their lives, I have a son-in-law there and I want him to get home safely. But I also recognize that this is a voluntary military and these people volunteered because they wanted to. My son-in-law volunteered as soon as he was 18 and it was because of 9/11 that he did enlist.
        So, folks, my suggestion is that you talk to more people who have served over in Iraq before making judgements on prematurely pulling our troops back home. Write letters or e-mails with the troops serving. Get their opinions. I heard that CNN had a blog for troops to weigh in on this subject but when I went to their blogs I couldn't find it. I hope it exists because every one talks about the troops but few are talking to the troops. I think their opinions on this subject count more than ours. I hope they are being supplied with ballots to vote in the election in November.

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/04/2008 2:50:31 AM

          Lori your so full of sh!t, let me show you what I mean...

          A yeah I like talked to ALL of the troops over in Iraq and they all want to end this WAR FOR OIL, no seriously I just talked to them yesterday and that's what they said. They said they don't understand WHY BUSH and MCCAIN do not want to go after Bin Laden, except that BIN LADEN is a friend of the BUSH family.
          AND YES!!! I believe gas prices are still out of control, why would any of the OIL COMPANIES including the ones BUSH"S DAD OWNS, lower their prices, because they care?...give me a break, they are gonna make their money and keep making their money until the wells run dry...literally...god you sheeple are blind.

          SEACAT ZAPATA!!! google it, bush owned off the coast of KUWAIT, where was that first gulf war?

          NEXT....

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/04/2008 3:03:43 AM

            Oh and Lori, soldiers are ALWAYS under a "GAG" order, they can not speak out, under fear of punishment. Some may, but mostly what you will hear is the same tired TALKING POINTS, why do you think soldiers were banned from YouTube and such, they were showing what BUSH/McCain do not want us to see...the TRUTH.
            My Brother-inlaw is a Warrant Offider in the Marines and has served 5 tours so far, he has a slightly diffenert view than those "soldiers" you speak to have, as does my son, home now but expected to return soon, and my two cousins, both seriously injured in this conflict, 1 Marine, 1 Army(paratrooper).

            So stop with the bogus qualifier statements, if YOU have your OWN oppinion, based on some provable facts, please enlighten us, otherwise, leave it to the big kids to play the game, ok ;)

            • Posted By: loriw @ 07/04/2008 2:10:15 PM

              Sorry that you feel that my comments are somehow less valuable then mine. Last I checked this is a country which respects free speech and that is what these blogs are all about. As for the "gag order" you spoke about....the soldiers i have spoken to seemed forthcoming and sincere, I simply ask the question "do you think we should pull out of Iraq?" and they seemed to give me honest answers. BTW. My son-in-law is in the Green Zone so I too have a vested interest in this war.

              • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/04/2008 6:48:06 PM

                Lori, don't pay any attention to HD. He is intolerant of other ideas than his own (sounds kind of a socialist/communist/fascist attitude now doesn't it). At any rate, he blabs off what he has no idea about. I too have been there, I have lost friends there, and not a one of us has ever had a "gag order" on us as he likes to state. Nor does anyone I know who has been there think we should pull out. HD makes comments as if to try to make you believe he is some authority on the subject. These are the continuous examples of lies you will get from people so far left that they have no sense of right or wrong oi even reality. Just ignore him

                • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/06/2008 5:05:54 PM

                  Only intollerant of IGNORANCE...marryanne.

                  • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/07/2008 9:43:22 AM

                    Then I highly advise you to stay away from a mirror....

            • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 12:54:38 PM

              pound salt up your ass husseindavidson our u.s military troops don't give a *** about some b.s. GAG ORDER if they are against the war they will say so they are not pansies like your self anyway if they did talk and it was against the rules of combat then they would go to levenworth ks right hey they would be out of iraq so your story don't make sense unless your a liberal p.s. the only troops that are complaining are those liberal that joined to get the free education and didn't expect to have to earn thier pay !! all the others did it for love of country and a few others like me did it just because we like a good fight !!!!

        • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 12:48:29 PM

          yep all those liberal news outlets won't tell you that we ahve had a record amount of troops re-enlisting 54,000 this year alone and its only july also that now new enlistments are up since the end of january damn liberals always trying to kick america in the boys !!!

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/04/2008 2:43:53 AM

        The only thing "stupid and pathetic" is teh level of DESPERATION to which you have sunk...it's laughable, and yet so very sad.
        Clinton let him get away? So he should have killed the Saudi Prince who private jet was there at the same time (i think yes he should have) but that is why the MILITARY not Clinton did not strike when they had the chance...idiot, I feel like your fricken history teacher, your so full of TALKING POINTS you can tell your head from mccain's a$$.
        You trying to use the old well with age comes knowledge bs? McCain does NOT know what a KURD is, he is still coonfused by suinni/shia, and can't stop contradicting himself, even within a 11minute time span on 1 TV show, LIVE! He is truly a FISH OUT OF WATER, You desperate, whinning babies can try all you like, we are NOT budging, WE back our candidate, and we will see him through to VICTORY!!!
        I see you still choose NOT to read the Bergner report...SHEEP! Yout to loriSHEEPlY, educate yourself by REALLY trying not just going to FOX NOISE and Douche Limbaugh, or shut the F up.
        Enough TALKING POINTS, McCain is MORE WAR YEARS and he will completely finish that which BUSH has started over the last 8yrs, our economy DEAD our children DEAD, everything this country ever stood for GONE, thanks to your crying daddy's boy SONG BIRD McCain.
        how does it feel to be the MINORITY?

        • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 12:41:08 PM

          if its got a rag then it gets a tag (wink and squeeze till the rag hits the deck ) hoooo rahhhhh !!!!

        • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/04/2008 6:43:07 PM

          HD - I just love it when you post because your rantings continue to show to the world your own desperation and lack of intelligence. I like the "history teacher" thing by the way... that is a good laugh. At any rate, your continuation of not really coming up with anything intelligent to say, and constant name calling against those whose opinion differs from you only serves to show everyone your ignorance.... so keep it up. I won't even address your "historical inaccuracies" because it would do no good. It is quite obvious that you haven't been out in the world, you have only been paying attention to what you are told on the TV. Maybe try watching ALL media channels for your news. You blast at Fox and regurgitate the Communist News Network (CNN) as if it were the gospel. Come off your drug induced coma and pay attention to world events. You are so easily steered by what the media agenda wants to tell you. Maybe instead of lashing out at those whose opinion differs from yours by name calling, try stating facts to support your beliefs. That is at least respectable. The way you act towards people with different ideas is exactly what I see constantly by democrats ... intolerance. (Yet another reason for my searing hatred of party politics)

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/03/2008 12:53:09 PM

    Did you know McCain has had 4 different campaign managers? McCain just can't get it right. He keeps changing managers, as if it is their fault that he can not succeed. Fact is, McCain is NOT a good candidate.

    After his first run at the Presidency when he got swift boated by Bush, his manager John Weaver got McCain to play "Maverick" and cross party lines to become a NeoLiberal. McCain almost changed parties and became a Democrat and Kerry's running mate, but at the 11th hour he switched horses again and hired Terry Nelson to manage him. Nelson is a strong GOP establishmentarianist, and got McCain to throw himself behind Bush, with promises of the GOP giving him the 2008 nomination. But Nelson didn't last, because the strategy failed. The right wing was suspicious of McCain because McCain voted against abortion, for gay rights and for gun control during his "maverick" phase. They didn't know if they could trust him. Also, Nelson spent money hand over fist, nearly bankrupting McCain's campaign. So he replaced him with Rick Davis, who was at the helm for the past year. Davis is a fiscal conservative, made McCain sell that expensive big bus, and made McCain mind his manners and act polite in public. But now, Davis has been fired too. Why? Because McCain is getting desperate, and the gloves are coming off. His new manager is Steve Schmidt, a Rove disciple and former Rove employee. McCain has also hired Nicole Wallace and Greg Jenkins to head his "Communications Team." Nic and Greg are also former Rove employees, masters of the art of swift boat smear campaigns. McCain going to let the Rove bulldogs off the leash. Look out, America, this is going to get ugly.

    My prediction: the 20% of America that is made up of ignorant jingoists will be cheering to see Rove's bloody tactics. But you know what? They were all going to vote for McCain anyway. The rest of America will be so disgusted by the hatchet work of the NeoCons that they will vote AGAINST McCain.

    The "last resort" tactic of the GOP to win this election will be to bomb Iran, starting another war. Mark my words, if McCain is not doing well in September, Bush will bomb Iran. He is already setting the stage for this, by saying that Iran has nuclear weapons, even thought inspections by the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency have both found NO EVIDENCE of nuclear weapons. REMIND YOU OF ANYTHING? It's the fake "weapons of mass destruction" all over again.

    Did you know that on June 26, Bush, very quietly, declared a state of National Emergency? During a National Emergency the President can DECLARE WAR without waiting for the approval of Congress.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/06/20080626-4.html

    It is going to be a very bumpy ride, America, so hold on, and DON'T LET BUSH AND ROVE STEAL ANOTHER ELECTION. I wouldn't mind so much if they were good for the economy, but let's face it, they are destroying America.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/03/2008 3:27:28 PM

      Nins, trying to figure out how a doctor has so much time on their hands to be posting on this site all day and nite.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/03/2008 6:49:54 PM

        Sharenews, I say more power to her. But how is what Nins does anyone's business?

        • Posted By: loriw @ 07/03/2008 9:35:37 PM

          It becomes our business because that is what he/she claims to be to show "credibility" to his/her posts.
          Personally I think Nins has some business (Nins claims to have 2 businesses) that would benefit or profit from something that Sen. Obama is promoting. Can't figure out exactly what yet.
          So it goes to motive....if Nins is a plant he/she is paid by someone to promote an agenda.

          • Posted By: Nins @ 07/04/2008 1:37:43 AM

            Keep scratching your head over that one, Lori. I guess it wouldn't occur to you that I blog because I love my country and I think that right now America is in danger.

            • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/04/2008 3:15:38 AM

              WOW! what a statement, some busines that would benefit from Obama winning...LMAO...that everybody in this country, exceptmaybe the BUSH CLAN, they might be a little bummed...lol.
              I agree with Nin, it's about keeping people like Retardmarryanne in check, countering every TALKING POINT with oh I don;t know, FACTS!!!
              You see Bush/McCain supporters are not the only ones feeling "desperation", theirs is just different.
              Our "desperation" is for somebody, intelligent, dignified, and mature, to take hold and begin to build this nation to what has always been meant to be, that is what we are desperate for. The nice thing is, that time is now, and OBAMA is the one for the job. Not the lessor of two evils as some would like to paint it, but the right person for the job.

              So sit back, as it is you who are now the "minority", reflect on why you TRULY feel the way you do about Obama or McCain for that matter, search your feelings and come to terms with who you are, do thatand all will be well for you, do it not, and suffer like Retardmarryanne, confused citizen, CornHolyO, etc...

              • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/04/2008 6:28:44 PM

                HD it is obvious from most of your rantings that you wouldn't know,.... lets say..... FACTS..... if they bit you in the ***.

                • Posted By: essgeebee3 @ 07/05/2008 4:51:55 PM

                  In reply to: Our "desperation" is for somebody, intelligent, dignified, and mature, to take hold and begin to build this nation to what has always been meant to be, that is what we are desperate for. The nice thing is, that time is now, and OBAMA is the one for the job. Not the lessor of two evils as some would like to paint it, but the right person for the job.

                  Obama is the one for the job? You mean the one who has had a whole three years in the Senate? The one who has never served in the military? The one who sat for how many years in a racist church, listening to racist remarks from the pulpit, and writing his own racist remarks in "Audacity"? If you truly believe he's the one for you, that's certainly your American prerogative, but he's NOT THE ONE FOR ME!

                  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/06/2008 5:04:09 PM

                    Well you feel free to join that 28% who still want MORE DEAD AMERICAN CHILDREN, sleep well ;)

                    • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/07/2008 9:35:39 AM

                      HD, I will hand it to you. You are the epitome of "fear mongering". Do you have anything intelligent to add, or is all that you can do boiled down to name calling, hate mongering and spreading false fears?

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 12:13:02 AM

          Hi Pia, Well, Id usually say that of course it is none of anyones business. And it probably still isn???t. But when someone (Nins) offers up some personal information (e.g. her being a doctor, CEO/owns two businesses, etc.) in her posts (and in other re-posts) to bloggers who have interacted with her on this site, it does stir up some curiosity about what she blogs / how much she blogs, given the personal info some regular bloggers are aware of from her own posts. But yeah, I for one do not really need to know any details . . .just chalk it up to curiosity, at least on my part with Nins.

          PS: I agree about more power to her to be able to own 2 businesses and being a doctor. A definitely significant accomplishment (bigger than anything Obama has accomplished,???ohhhhhhhh, I didn???t mean that. I just have this Obama supporter sitting behind me right now in a recliner watching me respond to your statement. LMAO.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/03/2008 7:13:37 PM

        I've wondered that too. Nins claims to own and/or run 2 businesses besides. I think Nins really plays golf all day and has his/her secretaries doing all the research and all the cut and pastes
        .Nah, Nins probably has no life besides these blogs.

    • Posted By: WhenStarsTurnBlue @ 07/05/2008 8:52:00 PM

      Um, that's for North Korea, not Iran. And do you know how many National Emergency states we're in right now? Some of them are from the Clinton era, like this one for Cuba:

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010227-1.html

      Or the National Emergency with Respect to Significant Narcotics Traffickers Centered in Colombia:

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/10/20071018-7.html

      Or this one is for Zimbabwe, should we be worried about war with them next?

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/03/20080304-6.html

      The reason it's been so quiet is that it's not that big of a deal. But if you want to use the fear tatics, go ahead.

      Fear: It's not just for right-wing Republicans anymore.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/03/2008 6:50:53 PM

      Thanks you Nins, you are always very informative. Keep up the good work.

      • Posted By: Nins @ 07/04/2008 1:49:01 AM

        Thanks, Pia.

      • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/03/2008 8:19:07 PM

        Nins, you're such a paid, left-wing spin-doctor it's not even funny anymore. The truth is "W" has been itching and secretly pushing for military action against Iran long before McCain secured the GOP Nomination. For reasons none of us little people will ever be privy to. Legacy? For Israel? For Oil? Quest for more stability in the M.E.? Who knows? Bottom line is I really don't think the Bushies wanted John to win the GOP nom. So don't suggest or imply that JM is somehow conspiring with W to attack Iran. Now he may agree with a strike/attack, for legitimate reasons that are unknown to us, but that doesn't automatically mean he's gets his jollies over wars.

        Again, I really don't think that the Bushies particularly like Mc. If you recall, from the very beginning (even before) the primaries started W--even the First Lady--were touting Hills as the most qualified candidate to be our next CIC. Huh? A Repub saying good things about a Dem. Go figure! I've been saying this for months, picking our next Prez has nothing to do with party affiliation. The Corporate Elitist (aka Geo-Elitist) pick the "Chosen One" long in advance and believe it or not, Hills was the Chosen One.

        Only this time something went wrong, as much as the C-Machine tried to manipulate and/or electioneer the Dem Prime, she was just too polarizing for the masses. BUT! More importantly, they underestimated KID FOX from Harvard. (Side note: Sorry Hill supporters, but IMHO that's what happen)

        THE MASTER PLAN:

        The young, naive and inexperienced Kid from Harvard was simply brought up from the FARM LEAGUE to beef up College Bound and African-American voter registration.

        That, combined with Hill bringing in record numbers of new women voters was supposed to lock-up the Dem Nom for Hill and ultimately the W.H. Well, once the liberal media fell in love with BO the rest is history.

        Obviously this is the Dems year. OR AT LEAST THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE THINKS SO!

        To my dismay, the mainstream media's blatant involvement in the ELECTIONEERING GAME for BO (incl rigged and/or bias polls) is very powerful indeed. The only real chance that McCain has is that "We The People" (the masses) speak up! AND SPEAK UP AND/OR VOTE IN RECORD NUMBERS!

        The SILENT MAJORITY can't take anything for granted this time around. We need to send a LOUD & CLEAR MESSAGE to the Electorate that our voices cannot be quelled. In other words, if this election ends up being close (even if Mc's has a slight edge) the electorate will crown BO the winner no, ifs ands, or buts. Remember 2000?

        SO UNLESS YOU'RE AN AVID BO SUPPORTER, I'D SUGGEST THAT WE---SILENT MAJORITY---GET OUT AND VOTE IN RECORD NUMBERS, OTHERWISE BO HAS THE ELECTION WRAPPED UP!

        MAY THE TRUTH BE KNOWN! GOD BLESS OUR WORLD!!!



        • Posted By: loriw @ 07/03/2008 9:30:18 PM

          Nins is a spin doctor? I knew he or she claimed to be a doctor. Nins is a SPIN DOCTOR! Dumb me I thought he/she meant doctor as in medical physician, guess that's because I'm a nurse (for real).
          well that does explain why Nins has such a lack of compassion for someone who is a stroke VICTIM. See nins comment on Cindy McCain.

          • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/03/2008 9:42:11 PM

            Hehe ... that's funny Lori. Yeah, apparently she/he has two businesses, two Spin-Doctorate Duh-grees in BS'ology and works full-time as the Blog Sheriff here.

            • Posted By: loriw @ 07/04/2008 1:32:12 AM

              Nins has given me several blog tickets already.

    • Posted By: WhenStarsTurnBlue @ 07/03/2008 3:36:03 PM

      Um, that's for North Korea, not Iran. And do you know how many National Emergency states we're in right now? Some of them are from the Clinton era, like this one for Cuba:

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010227-1.html

      Or the National Emergency with Respect to Significant Narcotics Traffickers Centered in Colombia:

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/10/20071018-7.html

      Or this one is for Zimbabwe, should we be worried about war with them next?

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/03/20080304-6.html

      The reason it's been so quiet is that it's not that big of a deal. But if you want to use the fear tatics, go ahead.

      Fear: It's not just for right-wing Republicans anymore.

  • Posted By: Skallywag @ 07/04/2008 3:18:11 PM

    THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

    While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his bid for the presidency.

    The old rancher said, Well, ya know, Obama is a "post turtle."

    Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked, "What is a post turtle?"

    The old rancher said, When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a "post turtle."

    The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

    "You know he didn't get up there by himself, he sure as heck doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up there and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place.

    • Posted By: WhenStarsTurnBlue @ 07/05/2008 8:52:51 PM

      That is hilarious!

      • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/06/2008 6:00:08 PM

        "Just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place."

        THE LIBERAL MEDIA MACHINE AND ELECTORATE.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/04/2008 10:35:54 AM

    WELL ITS THE FORTH OF JULY AND I'M GOING TO THE LAKE WITH MY FAMILY AND MY MARINE CORP BUDDIES WE ARE GOING TO PARTY !!! I'VE GOT MY TRUNKS AND THE SUN SCREEN FOR THE KIDS AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO WEAR OUR NEW OBAMA SLIPPERS ! (THEY ARE FORMERLY KNOWN AS FLIP FLOPS ) THATS WHAT WE ARE CALLING THEM! NOW OBAMA SLIPPERS ALL MY FREINDS SAY THAT IT FITS PERFECTLY... SO LOOK OUT AMERICA BECAUSE OBAMA SLIPPERS ARE COMMING TO A STORE NEAR YOU !!

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/04/2008 3:36:33 PM

      As an ex-Marine myself (which is a misnomer as once a Marine always a Marine) I'll give some advice - check John McCain 2003 v John McCain 2008 and check John McCain before and after the financial scandal that sent an AZ governor to prison and almost caught McCain. Better order more flip-flops and be ready to call them McCains.

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 7:11:40 AM

        i've got them too !! mcCain is not my first choice but he is the lessor of the two evils !!

        • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/05/2008 3:30:26 PM

          I strongly disagree but that is our right and what makes the world go around.

          • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 7:13:19 PM

            SEMPER FI !!

            • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/06/2008 11:00:39 AM

              You got it, Semper Fi !!

              • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/06/2008 5:17:29 PM

                Semper Fi!? you're both idiots!!!

                Hey if we say that people will think we're partiots....uh yeah thay will, even though we think killing more AMERICAN CHILDREN and starting a third WAR FOR OIL is "the lessor of two evils"...we're sure are a couple of dumb a$$es are'nt we, yup...der...semper fi!

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/05/2008 7:15:04 AM

        check obama's record nearly everyone he's involved with is headed to jail or should be !!! resko, ayres that scum from the weather under ground the il governor and the list goes on and on !!!

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/04/2008 1:57:28 PM

      The one thing i love on these blogs is the humor and creativity.
      Willnotvoteobama, i haven't always agreed with you but i do hope you have a fun and SAFE holiday with your Marine buddies and family. Please tell your Marine buddies "thank you for your service to our country" for me.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/04/2008 9:11:10 PM

    ALL OBAMAMOHAMMED'S....want a sneak preview of the "larry sinclair ads" coming out this week??? You can hear for yourself.

    ..................... http://www.americashopefoundation.com .....................................

    WARNING...WARNING....WARNING.....Does not mix well wit Kool-Aide.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/06/2008 5:12:02 PM

      CornHolyO, are you still sleeping with Sinclair? Bad Girl, don't you know he's gay?

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 07/06/2008 10:58:58 AM

      DECISION 08:
      __________________
      MORE OF THE SAME
      ??? or ???
      CHANCE FOR CHANGE,
      ??? your choice!
      ____________________
      (that is all there is, the rest is BS)

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