Candidates Think Flip-Flopping is the Only Way to Win Elections

ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL DAY, FOLKS!!!!!

The numbers look good for Obama. Has anyone seen his strength w/ Latinos?!?!?! Si, se puede!! He's leading McCain by 30pts w/ registered Latino voters, not only NATIONALLY, but in the "PURPLE STATES" also, according to today's Gallup.

In maintaining the integrity of this article, "Flip-Flopping", I've been determined to re-introduce myself to the candidates. Shedding all bias and favoritism, I've begun a campaign to research both OBAMA, and MCCAIN w/ more of an open-mind. Since McCain's experience in Washington is far more extensive than Obama's, I've begun my journey w/ him.

So far, it's not looking too good, guys. Has anyone seen this!!!!!!!

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9111.html - "McCain???s flourishing flip-flop list"

This is amazing! McCain has "changed his view" on almost every issue that requires a vote, in Washington. From Roe v Wade, to immigration, to Civil Rights, to taxes.......McCain has never voted the same way twice over the past 2 decades.

Most recently, his "change of view" on off-shore drilling has been significantly disturbing. McCain has spent almost half of his life in politics. During his Presidential bid, 8 years ago, he was a staunch supporter of the "off-shore drilling ban". He has now changed that view. Financial and geological experts are reporting that drilling, WILL NOT produce any significant changes until 10-15 years from now. W/ all due respect, McCain will most likely be dead by then. As a leader, I would expect McCain to have forseen the inevitable problem w/ our nation's dependence on foreign oil. Has he proven himself to have the ability to plan for America's future beyond the IRAQ WAR?

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/17/mccain-flip-flops-on-offshore-drilling-moratorium/

Any thoughts.............?

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Posted By: josemarti @ 07/02/2008 19:06:29
Comment: His strength with which Latinos? Do you mean the Cubans in Florida who can smell a leftist rat a mile away?
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Here's your answer, sir. :

According to today's Gallup Poll: "Hispanic registered voters' support for Barack Obama for president remained consistent and strong in June, with Obama leading John McCain by 59% to 29% among this group."

While Hispanics generally preferred Hillary Clinton to Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, a solid majority of Hispanics have consistently backed Obama against McCain in general-election trial heats. Obama has led McCain by about a 2-to-1 margin since Gallup began tracking general-election voting preferences in early March.

Gallup has interviewed more than 4,000 Hispanic registered voters during this time period. An analysis of candidate support by subgroup within the U.S. Hispanic electorate reveals that many of the well-established divisions in this year's campaign -- such as the gender gap and the marriage gap -- are weak or nonexistent among Hispanic voters.

Rather, Hispanics of differing demographic backgrounds all tend to solidly support Obama. It thus appears that there isn't much beyond a shared Hispanic ethnicity or identity that explains Hispanic voting patterns.


Anything else?

Why did the US military cancel a news conference where they were going to display the "Iranian" weapons they found in Iraq? Because there WERE NO IRANIAN WEAPONS to display. Here are links supporting the fact that the weapons found in Iraq did not come from Iran:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_05/013695.php
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/05/fire_next_time.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/05/iraq-the-elusiv.html

NOT TO MENTION that the Untied States itself has had a notable role in arming the insurgency. When the US dissolved the Iraqi Army, that flooded Iraq with weapons. More recently the Pentagon admitted that it had lost track of a third of the weapons distributed to Iraqi security forces in 2004-05, totaling 190,000 assault rifles and pistols that are currently on the streets of Iraq. The British paper that published this article got it's information straight from the US Government Accounting Office's public website:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-admits-190000-weapons-missing-in-iraq-460551.html

Ask yourself, why would America want to pretend that Iran is pushing weapons in Iraq, when actually WE (the USA) has flooded Iraq's streets with weapons? Because Bush wants to declare war on Iran, and just like the fake "WMDs" in Iraq, he needs something to frighten Americans, so he comes out with this BS about Iran killing US soldiers in Iraq. He has also said that Iran is making nuclear weapons, but recent inspections have found NO EVIDENCE of nuclear weapons in Iran. JUST LIKE how repeated inspections found NO EVIDENCE of WMDs in Iraq. The reports of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN inspectors and nuclear experts at the Institute for Strategic and International Studies (ISIS) all agree that Iran DOES NOT have nuclear weapons. The IAEA report states that Iran only has "low enriched uranium, not the highly-enriched uranium necessary to produce a bomb." The ISIS reports states "It is important to note that they do not encompass the full scope of work required for a comprehensive nuclear weapons program. Missing is theoretical work on nuclear weapons, uranium metallurgy, and the development of a neutron initiator." http://www.yirmeyahureview.com/articles/2008/iaea_report_on_iran.htm#_ftn9

In case you think the idea that Bush wants to bomb Iran is reactionary, you should know that John Bolton, former US Ambassador to the UN, recently told FoxNews that he can "definitely envision Bush bombing Iran before he leaves office." By bombing Iran, Bush makes it more likely McCain will be elected. But can the US Treasury, can the US economy stand more war? Even if we could afford it, we don't have the manpower in uniform. You know what that means: draft and conscription. Vote for McCain. Watch your children come home in body bags. Watch America go into a Great Depression.

Nins is very likely a plant. Has made claims about who he/she is that contradict statements that are posted by Nins. Refer to the article Barack's Bounce on the upper left corner of the politics page and scroll down a few days where several of us question Nins claim of being a doctor etc. Plant, plant , plant.

You're awesome, Nins!!!!

Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/02/2008 12:19:12
Comment: Huh? This foolishness doesn't even deserve a response. Yeah! Good idea Boogie! Let's just keep on doin' nothing about our current Gas/Oil Crisis. Typical DemKat response! Heck, we might kill a tree or something!
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For something that didn't deserve a response, I thank you for being so predictable...LOL!!!!!!!

I think you may have misinterpreted my original post. I'm all for domestic drilling in areas that are scientifically, and geologically efficient. The jury is still out on whether off-shore drilling is the best option. The point of the post is whether McCain's "change of heart" is based on the economic "good" ,OR, is he reversing his vote b/c he's behind in the polls.........?

Take the blinders off, kiddo. I'm doing some open-minded research. Stay tuned.......

Flag pins win elections. Holding your hand over your heart wins elections. Not picking your nose while on camera wins elections. Flip flopping as a factor in a presidential race is no longer an issue. That was simply part of the Rovian method to discredit the Democratic party candidate in the 2004 election. Flip flopping was rendered obsolete by "swift boaters".
Flip flopping is as obsolete to discredit a politician as referring the the definition of "is", used years ago on a president who is a current day hero.
There are angry people who remember the multiple attacks on the character and patriotism of the democratic candidate in 2004 who are ready to reciprocate on the current Republican candidate, a vulgar senile fraud who who refers to his wife by the name of some of her genitalia, who seeks to ride on the experiences he had while laying in a bed looking angry for a few years in Hanoi . That experience takes away from his ability to run a country instead of helping it as his supporters are so proud to say. His declining memory and gaps in thought take away from his ability to run a country, way beyond the ability of a lapel flag pin to rescue these disabilities. It is asinine to allege that a man flying a stovepipe at supersonic speed is up there above the oxygen of the earth gaining valuable experience to manage a whole country competently. Absolutely zero relationship. The Rove wheel is about to rock back on the feet of the Republican candidate as that poison which was sown in 2004 is reaped in 2008, and you deserve every bit of it.

Here's some change you can believe in: the amount of times McCain has changed his values and positions on the issues.

The reason half of the conservative Christian right hates McCain is because they think that they can't trust him. McCain started his career as part of the Christian right (there's a little-known fact). Once he landed in the soup as part of the Keating Five (which almost derailed his career) he positioned himself as a liberal and became a reformer for campaign finance in an effort to resurrect himself. In case you who don't remember, the Keating scandal had to do with some shim sham corporations pumping money into McCain's coffers. So McCain became a reformer to shine up his tarnished image, and that was his first departure from the right.

Other, more serious betrayals of the right came later, after McCain got swift boated by Bush. The great Texas Republican political machine laid McCain to waste, and McCain was mad as hell. He started voting against the party line and against Bush. He suddenly supported abortion rights, opposed the Bush tax cuts, co-sponsored a patient's bill of rights with Kennedy and Edwards, and got on the environmental bandwagon with John Kerry. He called Jerry Falwell an "agent of intolerance." He actually tried to crack down on gun shows in legislation he put forth with then-Democrat Joe Lieberman. In 2001, when Senator Jeffords of Vermont switched from Republican to Independent in an effort to counteract Bush's stranglehold on the Senate, McCain announced that he was considering becoming a Democrat, and went into a pow-wow with Senator Tom Daschle at his Sedona ranch. And did you know that John Kerry floated the idea of having McCain as his VP in '04? That was to have cemented his status as a newly-minted Democrat.

But instead of joining Kerry, McCain suddenly switched his affiliation, came out in support of Bush in '04, and jettisoned his liberal image. Suddenly, it was the "old" McCain from the 1980s back in the saddle, the neo-conservative, take no prisoners Creationist. Against abortion. For the war. The SAME man who opposed a Federal amendment banning gay marriage and openly met with gay groups now was pushing a gay marriage ban in Arizona. The SAME man who said in 1999 that he was opposed to overturning Roe vs. Wade, now suddenly in 2007 is promising that he will stack the deck in the Supreme Court with religious right judges and overturn Roe vs. Wade.

But the religious right isn't so sure about him. He's supported so many different opposing positions at so many times, that they are afraid that they are getting played in the name of McCain's political expediency.

You don't have to take my word for this. Watch news clips of McCain talking about the same issues in different years, which proves what I have written. Get on the Straight Talk Express and get it straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs