A group of white farmers bears the brunt of ZANU-PF's force.
Comment: Hey Raven after you get done reading my response to you here, head on over to the post (Killer Exchange), under the international tab...You know where you stalked me to last time?...I posted some more Gems for you there too. Winko;)
Comment: Sorry, bro--but I won't be following you around reading anymore of your racist tirades and hateful insults. Talking to you bigots is getting monotonous. Talk to one, and you've talked to them all. There MUST be some racist *** HANDBOOK they pass out to you people at some unknown, underground racist bookstore. But you are funny, though.
Comment: I am not even sure where to start...I read a horrid article about a government practicing abusive, torturist, even murder on individuals for their land based on their color...and then I read the comments from it and its a flip...Blacks sound like whites and whites sound like blacks...I guess its ok to be racist if you look at it just the right way. Everyone needs to stop and realize its not ok to kill, maim, destroy in the name of race. God made all humans...so he wanted to add a little spice to the mix, I don't think that means he wanted people to act like this. Also, just because someone else is ignorant and spouting off, doesn't mean you can sudddnely afford to become stupid and stoop down to their level. One...it doesnt' help your cause and two: two wrongs don't make a right.
Comment: BTW: THERE IS NO GOD!
Comment: Sure there is...Your just to stupid to realize it.
Comment: PROVE IT ***!
Comment: Your here arent you?...Its a Godly miracle your Dad found the hole and the other half of you didnt just dribble onto the bed...
Comment: You're here, too. But that's because you are the spawn of a molested sister, and a pedophile daddy. You are not blaming GOD for that--are you, cracker? Inbreeding sucks--don't it, stupid? You do know you're not suppose to repeat what your daddy did to your sisters, don't you? Dude, I feel sorry for your daughters!
Comment: Admit it Raven you that my above response was funny....If you say you didnt then you are lying through your crack residued colored teeth, and corn rows or is it combed into an afro with the comb sticking out of it still? Either way it was funny.
Comment: Oh, yeah, white boy. I laugh at every comment you spew through your meth rotted teeth. You're a clown, and you're probably making everybody who want to have a laugh at a bozo wigger who does a good impression of an ignorant negro. Is that what you and your daddy do when you're not taking turns screwing your sisters? Do you put black face on with sheep $hit and sing mammy? That sounds like some funny $hit to me, redneck.
Comment: Well ok, I wont reveal to you that your UNCLE DAD owes you child support..Oh Sh*t did I just slip and tell something I wasnt supposed too?
Comment: Oh, that's what you call 'em. Figured a pedophile like you would know what to called a relative who molested your mother and spawned you. Before you started attacking me, whitey, do you even know what the isssues are here? Bet you don't. You are so wrapped up in your racist ravings, you can't get yourself out--can you? You whites go berserk when a black person doesn't agree with you. We MUST be angry, huh? Sorry redneck, I'm not angry, just amused. And done with you.
Comment: What once was a rich and furtile land is now a poor country with staving people and money that is useless. Kill and whites and take over their land! They got what they wanted, now let them eat the results.
Comment:
"They" didn't want that. "They" wanted a president who looked out for their interest. Imagine for a second if the US had only been governed by black people throughout its history when the majority of people are white. The reverse was true for Zimbabweans; the black majority wanted a black president, not a black dictator. Of course, those who benefit support him and even find their way to a forum like this.
Bare in mind too that most black African states have been under black rule for less than 50 years. It took Europeans the better part of 1500 and two world wars to have working democracies in most of Europe. Was Zimbabwe better or worse under Ian Smith? Better, definitely, but blacks were still second class citizens, so it wasn't exactly paradise either.
Comment: SOUNDS RIGHT............EXCEPT THAT YOU FORGOT TO MENTION.................. THAT IN THE PERSUIT OF THE BLACK PRESIDENT (A KINDLY AND NATURAL GOAL)...................THEY WERE ATTEMPTING THAT GOAL BY SEGUE OF A SLAUGHTER ON ALL THAT GOT IN THEIR WAY....................IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOM BY THAT LEVEL OF SLAUGHTER, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE REAPING OF THE EFFORTS!
Comment: RACISM IT JUST A NAME FOR BACKING YOUR OWN GROUP.............................IN THAT CASE EACH GROUP IS A DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUP.............................MY GROUP CONSISTS OF BOTH WHITE, HISPANIC AND BLACKS (ESPECIALLY BLACK WOMEN)!.....................YOU KNOW, AS IN "ONCE YOU'VE HAD WHITE.............YOU KNOW YOU'VE HAD IT RIGHT! .........................LOL!
Comment: Where did the blacks learned RACISM? Isn't it from the aliens who want to grab their ancestral land? During pre-colonialism and imperialism the blacks, brown, and yellow races concept of the land is that: it belonged to the common people. When foreign people arrived, they taught them that land should be possesed and showed them how to fight and die in order to own it.
Comment: I don't know about all African cultures, but the idea of communal property was only true of the San (Bushmen) in Southern Africa. Among the Bantu speakers and the Venda, the land essentially "belonged" to the king. If he granted land rights, he could take them away just as quickly. The Europeans knew this but also knew that their governments would back them if they had a "signed" contract. and they happily enforced said contracts in the strictest possible terms.
Also, people fight and die for land whenever there is a competition for resources. The Bantu speakers absorbed most of the San (Bushmen) when they arrived at around the turn of the century; those who resisted were forced off their lands or killed. The main difference between Europe and Africa is that, up until the early 19th century, there was always more land available. You're less likely to risk your life for land if you think there's more a few days' away. For this reason, prior to Shaka, Bantu warfare was more about cattle rustling than killing or grabbing territory.
Once the Bantu reached the Cape Peninsula, however, things changed, as they had nowhere to go. Combine that with a major drought and you have Mfecane, a social upheaval that reached as far north as the Great Rift Valley.
Of course, I'm only talking about South Africa, Lesotho, (parts of Zimbabwe), etc...In West Africa, livable land was far more scarce. As a result, you saw 2 major West African Empires (Ghana and Mali) before the Europeans arrived and a third (Songhay) just before and shortly after they came. These "primitive" kingdoms discovered all of West Africa's gold deposits and established the first university and major learning center in the world (Timbukto).
Comment: As far as I know, the Mali became an empire around the 8th Century AD. Ghana, not long before that. Plato's Academy was around since at least 800 years before that, so I don't know how they could claim the first university. Do you have any sources?
Comment: I find your comments informative, insightful and interesting.
Seems you have much knowledge regarding African history, and I, for one, appreciate you sharing it with us.
Thanks.
Comment: It would APPEAR joe_mama has much knowledge yes. I question the veracity of many of the claims, however. We all need to be more aware of this issue so we don't have so-called "experts" dictacting the "facts" to us. We should make our own independent judgements based on our collective intellects and wide varierty of sources.
Much of this appears to be speculative (e.g., the first university being established at Timbukto and the claim about African slave holders not beating their slaves (earlier post)).
Comment: The concept of land ownership has been cemented in the Central and Eastern Asain cultures for at least as long as in the western world. So much for hte yellow and brown part. As for Africa, Thier were many kingdoms and pricipalities well before any white man set foot on it.
Well documented fact. Grab a history book, sit down, and read. You'll find things to be proud of.
Comment: Violence towards others who harm you comes as a natural response. True. Yet, humans pride themselves on being able to consider alternatives and also being able to successfully implement them in a unbiased and fair manner. True. So I consider these attacks on farmers a horrendous crime. Race is not important, but only the protection of human rights for all human beings.
As for the issue of who owns the land and whether or not descendents of colonists actually have rights to the land in which they live and farm on, this is more complicated. The existence of these farms and many other structures in Africa, are remnants of a terrible time in Human history, i.e. obvious exploitive policies that dictated what was considered acceptable treatment of natives in a given land. Examples are numerous... see China, India, Australia, U.S.A., and etc.... This brings up the question of legitmacy and fairness (or does it? alternative view to be discussed).
Hard questions
Is it right for these remnants to remain?
who knows...
Easy questions:
Is murdering of these farmers right?
no
Is the murdering of these farmers based on skin color?
yes
Are they being used as a scapegoat for other problems?
of course
On a side note
it is interesting that they way in which the land in which they sit on was won in many cases... By peaceful negotiation? Some times, but it is also the case that violence is what now affords these farmers with the land in which they own and wish to protect from invasive forces. An interesting sidebar I suppose.
Comment: Yet, humans pride themselves on being able to consider alternatives and also being able to successfully implement them in a unbiased and fair manner.
SORRY, NOT EXACTLY TRUE!.......................AS OF VERY LATELY IN THE HISTORY OF MAN...........SOME, AND MAYBE EVEN A MAJORITY OF MEN HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING A CHANGE OF STRATEGY IN DEALING WITH OTHERS,.................AS IN ACCEPTING YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOUR BROTHER!
HOWEVER, WITH THE QUANTITIES OF DICTATORSHIPS AND MONARCHIES WHERE THE GNP OF THOSE COUNTRIES IS THE PROPERTY OF A VERY SMALL GROUP OF VERY POWERFUL AND MOST OF THE TIME CRUEL LEADERS/ENFORCERS....................THE OLD WAYS ARE FAR FROM FORGOTTEN!
IN FACT ALMOST ALL FIRST ATTEMPTS AT A "KINDER/GENTLER" WAY TO LIVE/GOVERN HAVE PROVEN TO BE THE MOST COSTLY THINGS EVER DONE ON EARTH.
WHEN NATURAL GROWTH BY A FASTER GROWING, AND BECAUSE OF BEING FASTER GROWING, MORE POWERFUL GROUP HAS REQUIRED EXPANSION(ALSO NATURAL) THE BUSINESS AS USUAL PLAN WAS TO EXPAND UNTIL ATTACKED, AND AT THAT POINT USE THE POWER TO ELIMINATE THE OBSTRUCTION!..............THE MEN AND BOYS WERE ALL KILLED, AND FEW IF ANY OF THE WOMEN WERE INDOCTRINATED INTO THE WINNING SIDE!
WHEN THIS EFFORT TO LOOK AT OTHER METHODS WAS UNDERTAKEN, THERE WAS THE REACTION OF A NEVER ENDING PLEAS FOR RETURN OF THEIR "NATIVE LANDS" AS WELL AS A SOCIETY THAT FUNCTIONED AROUND A MINORITY RIGHTS TYPE OF LIFESTYLE....................THE SPOILS OF WINNING ARE NOW NEGATIVES INSTEAD!
NOW THE WINNING SIDES ARE UNNATURALLY (AS IN AGAINST NATURES MANDATES) ARE NOT ONLY SADDLED WITH THE LOSING AND MOST LIKELY MUCH SLOWER EVOLVING SOCIETY, BUT NOW THE SIDE CHOSEN BY NATURE TO MOVE FORWARD MUST (FOR SOME REASON I CANNOT FATHOM) PLACE THE WISHES AND NEEDS OF THE ONES CHOSEN BY NATURE FOR EXTINCTION ABOVE THEMSELVES AND THEIR WINNING GENOTYPE!
"THE ART OF LOSING BY WINNING" IS THAT ALTERNATIVE YOU SPOKE OF !
Comment: Good points
Comment: An Indian, a cowboy and a black guy are sitting at a saloon..The Indian proclaims " We were once a proud ppl, now we are but a few" he sips his frothy beer...The black man rather rudely says" Oh yea Homie..well we were once a down trodden ppl, but now we is tha bomb" he guzzles from his bottle of Crown Royal...The cowboy tips his hat up looks at the black man and says in his rusty voice" Well we havent played Cowboys and Negros yet". ... peace out.
Comment: Raven is my brother from another mother..LOVE YA MAN.
Comment: Every human being should not be abused....having said as much, however, we have to admit that the one continent that has been abused the most is Africa, the original home for all of us. Why? Because of the selfishness and racism from the ones with power.
Comment: LIFE ON PLANET EARTH IS NOT A TV GAME SHOW....................THERE IS NO CONSULATION PRIZE!
IF YOU WIN, YOU WIN! ..........OH, MAYBE THERE IS A CONSULATION PRIZE! IF YOU LOSE, YOU GET AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!
Comment: pbpace - Julian Cobbbing is a him, not a her.
Comment: My bad..
Comment: 'THE RAVEN' is one fine example of how most really young black men behave...Makes me proud to have the "repesentin" black man on this post...Raven seems not really interested in whats going on in the world, as his "homies" always monotonely "rap" about how you " have yo mind on yo food stamps and yo food stamps on yo mind "he gots his" and dont give a *** what happens to any of his fellow man black or white. Hey Raven try wearing a belt wit dos pants dat always be fallin down da butt...You look funny on COPS running while one hand is holding your pants and the other da crack dat u dont have 'G". Its even funnier when you run right out of your shoes while the police dog is chasing you (must be because you dropped out of 1st grade and didnt learn to tie them)...FO SHO!
Comment: Funny $hit, observer noone. Okay, not really. DIdn't you already perform this routine before? Yep, you did. I'd put my house up to see you act that out in front of some real "homies". But you racists are usually cowards, so I'm certain you cross the street whenever a black man comes your way.
What happened, redneck? Some big, black buck fu*k your lilly white trash girl friend? Yeah, that'll make you hate blacks, alright. You can save the 50 cent and M&M act, white bread. I hate rap and rappers as much as I hate you crackers. They all should shoot each other, and take some of you pale faces with them. You're always at their concerts. The majority of people who buy rap music is WHITE YOUTHS, redneck. See how stupid you people are. Some dumbasses put dumbass music out, and you honkies eat it up. Your white women love those "G's", don't they? Those "homies" with their big, black...what do you white guys call yours--C O C K S? (We call ours D I C K S!) Love me some Led Zep, though. Those honkies are bad! Pink Floyd, Steely Dan...you crackers are good at stealing our GOOD music. Just ask Robert Plant. So fu*k, white bread. You got nothing. I'm not insulted by you, just bored.
Comment: Fo Sho homie "r" I have grown up in Long Beach Ca and San Diego...Believe me nothing to brag about...So I have been der done dat...Blacks always live in squallered "hoods", dirty nieghborhoods... So true dat. Hell I even went to all black schools..Once again nothing to brag about, they always fought , shot , or killed themselves and never bothered my "White Ass". Never had one problem...Im not racist against blacks...Just against ignorant dumbasses such as yourself that prove me right..So get me a "forty" and lets stand on the corner and grab our crotches at all the chicks walking by like we all dat, Den we can knock up dos crack hoes and claim we not da babies daddy. Throw down some signs like we have arthritis, then dodge bullets, after da driver leaves we will gather around like roaches and start from the beginning...Sounds like da life......sssaaaweeeet!
Comment: ??????????????????????????????Why the fu*k are you talking about places in califunkia? Long bit*h, San Dickego? What the FU*K are you babbling about? Ohhhhhh--I get it! You believe you are making fun of me with your "rich little" routine because you think I'm a young ni&&er boy. Sorry, dumbass, I'm and old black guard. I don't give a fu*k about rap, hip hop, or whatever you people (wiggers? call it). So your rant was lost on me, redneck. You merely proved what I said about you honkies making these a$$ hole rappers rich. Went to an all balck school, huh? So you did catch your white girlfriend sucking on a big, black buck's D I C K, didn't you? (that's c o c k, to you redneck). And don't even try to lie about getting a black girl, your little wee wee couln't handle it--why else would your girlfriend go black? You never had a problem because you were giving up the bootay to the gay brothers, and your luch money to the gangsta brothers, right? When you grab your crotch, dumbass, what are you feeling for--your c o c k? You do know the "brothers" call their's d i c k s? We call women genitals c o c k s? But you alread knew that "fo sho, didn't you ***--I mean "homie? (or is it "hommie?" you wiggers are so stupid.) You went to "all black schools", so you must have lived in a squallered, dirty, pedophile filled, all white trailer park--huh, white trash? Fu*king your little sisters (after dad, of course) inbreeding everywhere, meth factories--yeah cracker, "sounds like da life", indeed! How sssaaaweeeet it is!
Comment: No I didnt live in the hoods...Your dumbassed communities bi*ched and complained that not enough of your little kids that you arent paying child support on werent able to go to rich schools...So they bused the dumbasses from the hood to our schools and some of us to your schools to teach diversity...But Im glad I didnt learn your version...Boy Id be another Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson looking for money in any racist situation I could find> And "rappers" are only rich because of bad parenting on your part, preaching to them da white man is puttin them down and they wont get anywhere as long as "whiteys" in power...To bad you were to drunk and high from reliving your Vietnam excursions to care for your kids who are now "cRAPPING" about you not living in a nice home, and raping his mom in front of him in your drunken tirades....Heres your Vietnam fortune cookie for da black man...A foodstamp at the bottom of a Crown Royal bottle...Drink Up!...Your ideology is a dying breed, you cant stand the fact that the younger generation doesnt really give a crap of the generation before them...Sucks for you.
Comment: So you've given up the WIGGER rountine, huh? I kinda missed the way you made yourself look like a complete trailer park piece of white trash. Wrong again, cracker. Too young for nam, white boy. And both of my children are in college. And you wiggers are making rappers rich. Especially the rich white kids in the 'burbs. You know, the ones who like pissing off their rich parents by having some wild ni&&er rapper poster on their walls, or some big butt video wh*re on the ceiling. After you're spawned from a piece of white female trash that was raped by her father, is your father also your gramps?
Never had to be bused to school either, jackass. I AM that generation, cracker. My ideology is just born. You honkies know nothing about black people. Oh, sorry--you know a lot about the rappers and ebonics, don't you wigger?
That's why Wright shocked you pale faces. Thought we loved you racist pigs? HA HA! That's right, pedophile, we're educated, and hate you fu*cking animals. We just need to find that benedict arnold who betrayed the great Wright. The rappers you love represent a -0% of black people, trash. So, you just keep on imitating those negroes--I like the laugh. I live in a five bedroom house, cracker, drive a BMW, a mini van (I know--that sucks, but my wife loves it! Whadda gonna do?) and am the supervisor of over sixty people--more than half are you rednecks. Do you know that EVERY WEEK one of them HAS to go to some form of therapy? I don't have to go to their files to tell you that the women have been raped by their fathers and brothers, hate their mothers for turning her head, and is being beat up by a meth crazy redneck abuser. The men seek help for having a child-molesting daddy, a weak-minded mama, and a sex-starved sister who molested him to get back at dad. (Oh, yeah--and little... what do you dudes call yours...C O C K S) You must have went to that school where B. Spears went to. L. Lohan attende? You know--the one that spawn the white trailer park trash that fu*ks everything, have her kids taken away, and blames mama. Bet spears was molested by her daddy. Just wait--it'll come out soon. Those are some real good schools. You white dudes like feeling up on each other, I heard. Sucks going to a trailer park school, huh? You can take the trash out of the trailer park, but...hell, no you can't. You're trash for life.
Comment: Ya I KNOW how your little brats got into college..United negro fund scam right?...And by the way you sure talk alot about molesting kids and sh*t, c*cks and dicks...Maybe thats your little neighborhood secret that you are posting little by little so when they find your lousy body from being shot up by your lowly "white trash workers" , they will have a record to look at .....Maybe your wifey might accept that type of trash about molesting kids behind closed doors but, dude, its just not REALLY acceptable...Ive noticed that you say that molesting crap to alot of other posters...You are one serious Mcnasty.. I have never went to school in Louisiana with B. Spears...(I understand your geography only covers the corner liqour store, local crack house, the food stamp office and the courthouse) but California was on the west coast last I remembered, but Im sure in Louisiana youd feel right at home amongst your peers we all saw standing on the rooves of there homes because they were to stupid to leave the big bad white man powered hurricane. And a used BMW from the by here pay here lot doesnt really count as being rich. Neither would your termite, and roach infested 5 bedroom house, thats probably in foreclosure right now...I can picture the security bars taking the shape of your window air conditioner right now... Bragging you are only a supervisor?...Please shouldnt you own the company by now...Surely you could get Jesus Sharpton or Jesse Christ to pull some racist strings for you and you could REALLY be rich and own the place ..With some kickbacks to them ofcourse.. Then youd own all the little white trash ppl at work...The ultimate slave payback...Shhhh I wont tell about your little "I hate my workers" secret . And if Vietnam wasnt your era then that would leave the crappy 80"s...Which even I wouldnt admit to being in...How many shirt collars did you ruin with your sloppy assed, dripping jerry curl sauce? Or did you sport a fade?..Eitherway you probably looked like an idiot Lionel.
Comment: No, hommie--I mean ***. My kids went to college the same way you honkies get in, and bush dumb a$$ did...their daddy went. Sorry, but you crackers finally realized that giving money to the ucnf was a terrible thing to waste--pedophile. You are the one who started the C O C K talk, pedophile. Isn't that what you child molesters fu*k your sisters and daughters with--c o c k s? You keep mentioning jesse and Al--must admire and want to be like them, huh? Did a black man fu*k your mama, too. I mean, since she let your daddy screw your sisters, she probably wanted to feel some dark meat, huh? You sho nuff kno a lot about us ***, white boy. I's a bet yo live in da black hood, scared to come out. And get on this site and spew your racist, ignorant hatred. Keep it up, cracker, you're the funniest redneck since pee wee herman. The 80's, uh? Isn't that when you honkies were dancing to abba's "dancing queer" and so much holding spray in you moppy hair, it looked as stiff as a black dick? When your white trash women started giving away their..what do you call white P US S y? Oh, yeah their C U N T to the bros.
By the way, dumba$$--I saw another show where they busted some more white trash going to a house where they thought they would meet some little girl or boy to molest. You honkies are pathetic, nasty animals. How many sheep have YOU fu*ked, bro? Is it really like screwing a white woman? You can tell me--big, bad white man. You are sooooo funny1 I like it!
Comment: Hmmmmm....as I read this, it seems that this thread is full of wild claims. To whoever asserted that African on African slavery was a type of indentured servitude, you need to do a little more research. Mainly in the area of what is now known known as Benin, and parsts of Burkina Faso. Specifically the Dahomey Empire. They had a nasty habit of selling off thier niegbors and human sacrifice. Kinda like...well, any other member human races down through history?
Comment: Didnt you know that racism is a oneway street..Only blacks are allowed to refer to everyone as racist honky and get away with it...Because after all we are white and racist by there grandmas standard oh and there savior Jesus Sharpton, or is it Jesse Christ?...They are privy to comment on Jews, Mexicans, whites, whatever they want, but boy if you say Black American, or read Mark Twains Huck Finn...Then you are racist and should be drawn and quatered in downtown Watts.. After you get past the grafitti, and trash, and whinos, and horrible smell, and burnt out buildings from the intelligent riots that showed there supreme smarts....(actually showed the world how stupid todays minorities are)..P.S....Why do they glorify such a nasty part of town in there ignorant "cRAP Music"?..Looks like nothing to brag about.
Comment: All races have committed the same crimes at different points in history. Must have something to do with us all being human, eh?
PS
Raven - how can you post such blather? I am white so does this make me all of the "animal f***ing, aryan, child molesting, serial killing etc etc etc", or do I have a choice between all those triats? Seems you are a shining example of intolerance. Thier are others, notably kingcroat, but that one rant is awe inspiring.
Truly,
ZTurlte aka"white animal"
Comment: The choices are yours to make, z. Which one do you lean towards? I find that most of you whites are pedophiles.
I'm amused, too. But not surprised. Like I said, I noticed that you and whites like you are quick to call out blacks concerning their comments. But white people like that racist reporter guy, and that racist observer 001 can say any racist $hit they like without being called to task. But that's ok, I never expect anything but bigotry from you people.
Comment: Actually I did call out KingCroat. Others are making some bad comments as well.
Reporter guy, from what I have read, has merely commented on your lack of revelevance.
The funny thing in all this, is that you don;t realize that hate harms YOU more than anyone else. Here, by making foolish comments instead of learning something about the continent that your ancestors are from. It seems funny to me that all posters here claiming to be African do not spout your line.
You are in a time when Obama is running for president, and looks to be ahead. You are in a time of heretofore unseen equality for the Western world. It would seem that the majority has passed you by.
By taking up a racist tone in a thread about a terrible act, you discredit yourself.
Comment: I find that most of you blacks are in prison raping the pedophiles.
Comment: Don't even bother replying to The Craven.
Just an angry student, nothing more, and has nothing to say.
You'll notice this individual never offers an orginal thought, or posts an opinion, but simply shows up to disagree with everyone. All this person can say -- ad nauseum, as well -- is that whitey and honkies are meth addicted trailer park rednecks. You will notice a theme in this individual's posts -- deviant sexual references, usually involving incest -- that make one wonder why this person is stuck on this theme.
Perhaps some childhood incident he or she can't shake and has to lash out at strangers in order to compensate?
Hmmmm.
Then again, who really cares what an unintelligent racist like this posts anyway?
It's like trying to decipher graffiti, or ask a child what animal they were depicting in their crayon scribblings.
Who cares? It's only a matter of time before the police shoot this person, or else falls victim to the all too common black on black crime we see all over this country.
Better to spend your time responding to someone with a real viewpoint and an IQ above 40.
And I'll bet anything this person will reply in a typical rant calling me whitey and I deal meth or something equally moronic. Just wait.....
Comment: Man--I don't know where to start. So much love going on here. You don't have to wait too long--redneck. First of all white GUY, I only respond the way I do after I'm attacked the same way. Just look at what YOU posted, craker. And I have had many peaceful debates. So your assertions are wrong. And the question of my intelligence was already answered by the two college degrees I have on my wall, which will soon be joined by my MASTERS. HA HA! Your opinion means nothing. But I like it when you try to exert your imaginary white superiority around here. You're new on the block, whitey, but just like all the other white racists, you ignore your own. I never said I was not a racist. SO? Sue me.
I bet you don't think observer101is a racist, do you? His RANT (you people love that word, don't you?) is suppose to be clever, I guess. You know, imitating how us negras talk. Funny $hit. Heard it/read it before, though. And you with your nice insight into my future. No, ***, you're not a racist at all. But you're right about one thing, though. Some white racist cop might want to murder me for unpaid parking tickets.
Comment: You say damn near the same thing every time, dude, except this time I notice you left out any weird sexual references, which makes me think my last post struck a nerve.
A. I don't believe you. I don't even think you've got an undergraduate degree, let alone a master's. You can barely form a coherent, intelligible sentence and you expect people to believe you have a master's?
That's pretty funny, actually, so kudos for your sense of humor. I'm guessing you've finished high school and are working on a 2 year vocational degree. And that's good, because the world needs plenty of laborers.
B. You are a stereotypical angry black person -- almost a caricature of a stereotype, in fact. (Except you claim to like Zeppelin! Hilarious. Clearly you don't want to totally associate with your race, so you deride hip hop. And again, I don't believe you.)
C. I have not seen one post where you simply offer your opinion on something. All you do is attack whitey. Everything you write is just garbage, and utterly formulaic. As long as you use the words redneck, whitey, honky, and meth, your posts are not distinguishable. And of course, as I've said, there's always these deviant sexual overtones, almost always involving incest.
Ever read any Freud, buddy?
Did you have a weird uncle or neighbor who touched you in the wrong way when you were just a little fella?
Have a super July 4th weekend, Raven.
God bless you for entertaining me so much, and I truly hope you get the help you need.
Comment: Are you also that white guy who calls himself GUARDEDLYOPTIMISTIC? I mean, he gave me the same psychoanlysis with the same psychobabble. (Nobody reads Freud the Fraud, dumbass) You crackers must all read from the same "*** handbook". Struck a nerve? Yup--the funny bone nerve. Dude, I can't stop laughing. I already told you--dude--I don't care what you think or believe. You think ALL black people are into hip hop? I don't like my people because I don't embrace that part of it? "Common" black on black crime. You're not racist, alright--just stupid. But I get you, whitey. You rednecks always embrace everything white, don't you. Let's see--you make heroes out of people like manson, dahmer, john wayne gacy, richard speck, ted bundy, the green river serial killer...I could go on, but you get the point. And your pathetic white women simply love those guys, and you impotent white guys want to be them. Saw Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and other white groups in their prime in the 70's, redneck. And you not believing me makes me feel just awful!
Now my turn. And since you miss the sexual references (you are sick, aren't you)...
1. You are between 30-45 years old. When you and a brother were sharing a room with your little sister, at night, your daddy use to creep into your bedroom and molest your little sister. You could hear your mama crying in her bedroom--but not because of the molestation, but because your dad didn't want to fu*k her anymore. After she reached puberty, he started outright screwing her. Since that was your first sexual incounter, you started fu*king her, too--am I right? Typical trailer park practice.
2. Your mothr probably tried to kill herself with pills, and your drunken father would beat you because he found out YOU was fu*king his daughter/lover--whatever you people call it. You ran away from home after your mama tried to "give you some" one night during one of her pill-poping adventures. Now every night, you try to fight the urge to creep into your daughters room--but can't help yourself. Your woman is on meth, and you are abusing perscription drugs--but you're not an addict, right?
You are the stereotypical redneck. A white coward who can't admit their racist beliefs even behind their computers. A typical pale face afraid that your little white world is coming to an end--which it is, cracker.
I don't celebrate july 4, and you're mocking God. I tried to get some help, but the freud wannabe shrink tried to touch my D I C K! (That's C O C K, to you white boy)!
Comment: you are right, of course, but I can't help it. Public displays of ignorance amuse me :)
Comment: Black, White, Yellow, Brown, whatever, we are all human, and as such, seek power and domination. Trying to claim that one race is worse than the other shows ignorance/a willingness to ignore history.
PS
How can Raven make such racial slurs such as "whitey" and "honky" and not consider himself racist? I am white, so does this make all of the animal f****ing, red neck, serial killing, mass murderingetc,etc, true about me or do I have a choice in them?
Comment: Africa, O Africa...how my heart burns for you. You have the abundance of everything.....Riches, poverty, forest, desert, rivers, lakes, mountains, valleys, rain, drought, races, languages, customs, love , hate, governments, anarchy, health and diseases....yet you just cannot get it together. This is what happens to any person, country or continent who has EVERYTHING!
Comment: Africa in general keeps falling on it's face and making bad situations worse. When will the point be increased wealth and health for all Africans and celebrate success and tax revenue . It is time to proceed to a life well lived not full of hate and resentment but instead personal empowerment and true pride. The United States of Africa( if it existed) could be a true world power imagine that.
Comment: Mugabe...I don't think he can last much longer, is the feeling I get. Of course, there's that junta in Burma that's been hanging on for quite awhile, but eventually these regimes must all give way. It's basically a matter of when Fate will catch up with Mugabe (and Fate is awfully busy these days). To be free here in Canada is something really to be appreciated...and from this fortunate land, "the true north strong and free," I offer my deepest wishes to freedom seekers in Zimbabwe, that your country will find liberation soon.
Comment: Charles Davy not Devy...
Comment: Mugabe does not hate all whites in Zimbabwe. He is a hypocrite. White Zimbabweans, like Charles Devy, who owns safari, about 3367 square kilometres, in Zimbabwe and the is father of Chelsy Davy, the girlfriend of Britain's Prince Harry still enjoy Zimbabwe.
Mirror on Jun 27, 2005 wrote "In recent days her dad, safari operator Charles Davy, has been fiercely criticiz(s)ed for his links with Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe...."
Quoted by the Daily Telegraph, Charles Davy defended himself, "I am not involved in politics in any way, but I reserve my right of association, as any person should, and I really do not see that the leaders of any political party have the right to choose my friends or business associates." In June 2005, Zimbabwe's opposition MDC criticized Davy's links and said "If people like Charles Davy are indirectly involved in businesses with the regime, they ... should be included on the list" http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15580353-23109,00.html
On December 19, 2004, The New York Daily ran a headline " Harry Babe's Dad is Mugabe's Pal" http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2004/12/19/2004-12-19_harry_babe_s_dad_is_mugabe_s.html
Comment: I am a black Zimbabwean and denounce any violence on any Zimbabwean whether black or white. Both whites and blacks are suffering because of one man. This is not a race game. Mugabe's real last name is Matibiri, and his father is from Malawi. His mother is a Zimbabwean from Zvimba. Mugabe's rural home at Kutama mission is run by white Jesuit priests. The late, Jesuit priest, Fr. O'Hea, the surrogate father of Mugabe, was white. He helped ambuya Bona, Mugabe's mother, when Matibiri, the husband and father of Mugabe ran away with another wife when Mugabe was 10. Mugabe continue to dress in Western suits, and you tell me he does not like the white man. Why can't he dress like Kaguvi our great liberator of 100 years ago. Mugabe eats with white priests and is a die hard Catholic. He is a hypocrite. Like him, my rural home is in Zvimba, and happen to have Malawian blood like him. In addition, I have Mozambican, South African, and Zimbabwean blood in my lineage. My ancestors came for to Zimbabwe a century ago to work in the mines and on the farms. I am black, and proud of the diversity in Zimbabwe. My fiance is white, and can't wait to add color to the world.
Comment: The white farmers who bore the brunt of ZANU-PF's force are only paying what their forefathers had done during colonialism and imperialism era in Africa. Try to look back in history and it will tell you that it's not really good to covet other peoples land and the treasures that belonged to it. In the end there's no escaping the fact that you have to pay for it !
Comment: If your father was a murderer would it be right to execute you if he died before he could be punished? Same standard. GET OVER IT! MOVE ON! The world owes you NOTHING!!!!
Comment: The white farmers who bore the brunt of ZANU-PF's force are only paying what their forefathers had done during colonialism and imperialism era in Africa. Try to look back in history and it will tell you that it's not really good to covet other peoples land and the treasures that belonged to it. In the end there's no escaping the fact that you have to pay for it !
Comment: As i have stated earlier there is both bad and good in ALL races. It is a part of the human condition to be fearful,brutal and selfish. I mean the NA had african slaves. Talking about the oppressed being the oppressor. All races fall short. But if we are to govern ouselves as some here have stated whereby we simply kick the livin s**t out of our less armed brethren, we are no better than wild beasts. One would hope that we are evolving past this shortsighted view of interpersonal relations other wise we are doomed.
Comment: NOT GOOD, NOT BAD, JUST WINNERS AND LOSERS!
Comment: No we shouldn't just invade someone because they are weaker. We need to respect our differences and preserve them. I am not sold on this lets all mix together and become half-breeds. that the MTV generation has. Nature or if you will god made us who we are. Respect what has been created.
Comment: I am far from a christian. I am a European first. Christianity is a foreign religion that was brought into Europe.
It is semetic.
Comment: Dude--you makin' me laugh so hard...I can't take it no more. Man, do you know how it sounds (ok, I can't hear you, but I can imagine you saying it out loud) when you say you're "a European first"? First, you sound like a moron. You must have discovered meth. Croat, huh? Are you from that place where stupid whites were killing each other--over...? Bet you were. You sound so proud to be european. Or do you mean just white? europe is so unstable. If it was not for the U.S., you honkies would be speaking russian and german by now. Miss hitler, do you? How many women and girls did you rape?
White race--first victim? SHUT UP, STUPID! What fu*king book are YOU reading from? You whites rewrite history so fast, you people are starting to believe your own propaganda.
But you're right about one thing, though, redneck--religion sucks! You, too.
Comment: The point is that people cannot go around claiming that white people invested invasions, explotation, slavery etc. thats the point.
Comment: You do mean "invented" don't you? I agree with you. "White" people (whatever white means) did not invent these situations. If you know history at all, there is never a race that has not been "enslaved" at one time or another. It just so happens that everyone is caught up on the last 500 years.
Comment: Likeitis - U R an Idiot.... end of story.
Comment: DO SENSE AGRUING FACTS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.....................AS IN THE TRUTH HURTS!
LOL!
Comment: To set the record straight once and for all.
As far as racial invasions the white race was the first victim. Europe was attacked looted and raped on numerous occasions by:
Turks
Arabs
Huns
Mongols
Moors
Avars
So what happened. Well the europeans turned the tide and grabbed the upper-hand.
So
Comment: And your point is what Kingcroat- we should simply invade anyone weaker?? How christian of you. As a matter of fact i would expect nothing less from a so called Religious christian types.
Comment: 'The Raven' maniac. Apparently seeing racism in everyone and everything but himself. Why does he believe anyone on the planet has to blame his race to make themselves 'feel better'? We can get along fine without the likes of his rabid, racist, and hypocritical diatribe. He should also look into a quality spell check application. If a Caucasian individual was verbally abusing a Black person's views in the same manner of speaking as 'The Raven', the sky would be falling, lawsuits would be launched, and Mugabe would be flying in for the roast. The issues of entitlement exhibited by this individual is usually reserved for the ladies, is it not? It should not be condoned in this venue. Happily and hopefully, 'The Raven' does not represent the views of the majority of those in his ethnic group. Racial slurs and profiling are not welcome here.
Comment: Wait--tech--let me stop laughing! Are you new in town, idiot? Are you not reading what your fellow honkies are saying? You sound like a damn fool. You honkies are using racists slurs all over the place. You rednecks are so stupid. You see it, but you figure if you ignore it, it's not real. IF you were verablly abusive?Dumbass--YOU ARE! But that's ok, whitey. I can take it. This "venue" represents "FREE SPEECH", moron. Aparently, there are no schools in your trailer park, huh? SO, if you don't like it, leave it!
Don't want to shock you, white boy (like rev. WRIGHT did to you pasty faces), but, yep, many in my "ethnic group" feel the same way I do. That don't surprise you--does it--whitey?
Comment: Jeray, you need to put down that crack pipe. The history you mention is fabricated.
Comment: it amazes me just how racists some of the bloggers in here are. They see no wrong or original sins perpetrated by their ancestors. In your "Crusades" to spread christianity to the new worlds you subjugated untold masses, usually at the end of a gun. Now you sit back and cry when those same people seek to determine their own futures. Your indignation is ONLY surpassed by you greed and evil piety. Lest we forget, most of this evil was done in the name of god. Whos God???
Comment: THE MAIN ISSUE IS ............YOU!
AS IN "YOU........CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
YOU..........WANT TO CRY LIKE A B'TCH, ABOUT HOW ........"SO, MIGHT MAKES RIGHT!"
THE GAME OF LIFE IS NOT RIGHT AND WRONG.................IT NEVER HAS BEEN!
THE REAL STATEMENT READS.............."MIGHT MAKES LIVE!" ........."LACK OF MIGHT MAKES DEAD!"
SO AS IT TURNS OUT.............LIBERIA WASN'T SUCH A SMART IDEA, CORRECT?
Comment: Raven noone is impressed by your rantings. Would you not agree that the races should be seperated?
Integration in the US has killed the black family and it social network. Don't you want a black country in the US run by and for black folks. let's stop the killing and BS.
Comment: I'm not ranting, whitey. Do you honkies read from the same redneck book? Say anything truthful about you people that you don't like to hear (like the great Wright did), and you're ranting. Save it, white boy. Those days are gone. We don't give a fu*k about what you think about us--black people, that is. Hell yeah we should seperate. Once we started inner-grating with you animals, our whole way of life went to hell. You people are nothing but pedophiles, serial killers, spree killers, mass murderers, klan members, aryan nation members, neo-nazis, militia maniacs, mall murderers, college killers, school yard murderers, incest lovers, animal fu*kers, traitors to the country (look up the CIA, FBI, and Tim McVeigh, cracker), rapists, murderers of black children, church bombers...should I continue--animal?
Comment: Good then we agree that we should seperate?
Comment: i dont understand what the freak you all are talkin about. Between racism, ignorance. and jus plain stupidity i am disgusted. Someone said "name one thing blacks have done of substance in Africa." You are seriously the stupidest person i've seen right now. Firsty let me point out that the so called "Middle East" is apart of Northeastern Africa... pick up an atlas. Next, Blacks can not be called blacks in their native land so scrub it from your vocab they're africans! Now let me get to the point. So called "Blacks' in Africa has catapulted this world to the sucess it is now. Algebra was invented by and perfected by Muslims in the now Iraq. Beutiful Architecture and works of art were depicted in these lands. Egypt. one of the most well known places in the world is home to the pyramids andd secrets still uknown to the day. Also Timbuktue was the learning center of the world with magnificent libraries and structures. So learn your history people. The decline of Africa did not begin with the colonization by Europeans but by the military campaigns of such WHITE EUROPEAN leaders such as Alexander the Great, The Romans, and Napolean. These peoplle were in awe of the standard of living and advancements of the African people. This soon led to anger and jealousy causing them to destroy the library at Timbuktue(along with the only copy of some books), the execution of innocent peolpe( Jesus- who was also a black african), and also the desecrating of such monuments such as the pheonixes in Egypt. While the colonization of Africa was the breaking point there were incidents before that! Overall you must learn your history , learn more than you do at school. Especially in America where we are brainwashed early to belive in stateism and what hear is right. Africa is the motherland. While white people are my brothers and sisters i cannot except you knowing that your feelings of superiority towards me will cloud your thoughts. the only thing that makes you white is the lack of magllelum(or skin pigment that absorbs sunlight). I live by a higher law that America was founded on a is probably the only thing that keeps the world in balance if it was followed: do what u say youll do, and dont encroach on anyone elses property. DUH!!!!!! i am a highscool student at East Forsyth and i love history. Learn it!!!!!!!!!
Comment: WIth all due respects you seem to use black and African interchangeably. Are you saying anyone from the African continent is black? The "...Middle East" is apart of Northeastern Africa". It would be more to correct to say that The Middle East could be broadly construed to cover parts of Northeast Africa as well Southwest Asia. "Algebra was invented by and perfected by Muslims in the now Iraq".. Algebra has its origins in ancient Babylon and was perfected by an individual that lived in Africa (Alexandria) but who was of Greek (Hellenistic) origin. The Persians and Arabs of the Middle East also made important contributions. Fair enough, many of the rest of your comment contains baseless claims (e.g., Jesus was black). You are free to believe what you want but please present as your opinion and NOT fact. You also make many blanket statements about white prejudice. While it might be true for some it is not true for the whole white race. I think you harbor some prejudice of your own - again your right ,but don't project your hostility upon me. BTW, the thing (or lack thereof) that makes whitey so white is melanin and not "magllelum".
Comment: This is the sad state of affairs throughout Africa. The blacks are all infected with the "big man syndrome" - they want to be considered important no matter how many others have to suffer, die or starve. Take Mugabe, for example - despite hundreds of millions in net worth, he will turn a blind eye to his starving people, even though he could feed them all personally. Why? Because he is the Big Man and if he gives his money away, then others will be bigger and he will be smaller. It's a perverse way of thinking that destroys societies, but it is the African way. Why do you think societal things like law are so expendable throughout the continent? Laws get in the way of making yourself bigger. Right vs wrong? Pshaw - it's all about big versus small. This is the jungle, baby - eat or be eaten. And the bigger you are, the more likely you're eating rather than being eaten.
I've heard that in some African languages, there is no word for "we" or "us". To express that concept they say "me and my people" or refer to their tribe or group by name (e.g. "the hutus", "people in Harare"). I'm not a linguist, but if its true then that is a sad reflection of their mindset.
Comment: OLD STORY, SAME AS IT EVER WAS!
NO PLACE ON EARTH IS NOW POPULATED BY THE ORIGINAL HUMANOID(OR JUST THAT PERSONS DIRECT DECENDANTS) TO TAKE A BI-PEDAL STANCE ON THAT LAND.......PERIOD!
THAT MEANS THAT EVERY PLACE ON EARTH HAS BEEN FORCABLY TAKEN FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE FIRST!
THE STRONG (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY) IN EVERY SPECIES OF ANIMAL (HUMANS ARE ANIMALS) DOMINATE AND OVERPOWER THE WEAK(MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY)!
FOR THE MOMENT, ZIMBABWE IS DOMINATED BY MUGABE AND HIS THUGS, TOMORROW I MIGHT BE THE DUTCH WHO ARE AGAIN THE DOMINANT GROUP!
WHOEVER IS THE DOMINANT GROUP IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE HARD TO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO ARE AT LEAST 1500 YEARS BEHIND THE REST OF THE WORLD AS FAR AS TECHNICAL EXPERTISE (WHY THE PEOPLE GIVEN THE LAND TAKEN BACK BY MUGABE WERE UNABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH FOOD TO REPLACE THE WHITES WHO DID JUST THAT IN THE PAST)!
THIS WOULD ALSO BE THE REASON THAT THE 1RST WORLD COUNTRIES ARE THE ONLY REASON THAT MANY OF THE AFRICAN TRIBES ARE STILL IN EXISTENCE (CARE, UNICEF, U.N. FOOD ETC, ETC.)
Comment: I apologize, I did not give credit where credit is due: Blacks DO contrtibute, they ensure that there are plenty security firms around, insurance companies get to charge incredible premiums, and luxury car makers get to sell plenty cars to overpaid and underworked bureaucrats. Give credit due : blacks make GREAT thieves, they can steal anything from under anybody's nose. They even manage to steal South Africa from the whites ,albeit with a little (lots of) help from the western world, specifically Britain.
Comment: What's wrong?
Lose your wife to a black man?
Daughter marry a black man?
Son marry a black man?
I truly pity you...
Comment: CaBez - apprarently your stuppidity is limitless, Steal So.Africa???You're kidding me dude. Exactly who stole what from whom?
Comment: I like "Kingcroat" 's idea : Let's separate the whites from the blacks. Oh! wait, THAT was the idea behind apartheid, and now we can see that after a mere 14 years of black rule, it WAS and still IS A GOOD IDEA, because nobody can live under black rule, not even the blacks themselves. As "Universal" says : "they have not contributed anything of substance".
Comment: True, and Hitler wanted to avoid war with England. It was the war monger Churchill who brought the war.
Comment: I like you, croat. You are the dumbest person here--and you are not afraid to show it. I have read some stupid things here, but what makes you so funny is that you say the dumbest things--AND YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT!! You are one funny european. An idiot--but a funny one.
Comment: First of all it is absurd to compare Hitler to Mugabe. Hitler didn't systematically destroy germany. The allies did. Firthermore Hitler ws ythe prime reason fro germany being rescued from that vengeful Versailles treaty. Remember WWI ended in an armistice NOT a German surender yet the hate filled Allies threw the book at them. No wonder there was a WWII. As to Zimbabwe it was the idiot West , the U.S. and Britain, anxious to demonstrate their championing of "minority' causes.that put Mugabe and others his ilk in power at the expense of their own peoples! Black Africa is basically a dysfuntional region. What can one expect from a peoples that have never had any semblance of civilization including a written language? Their entire existence is a Western fraud! Everything that they have acquired, including the trappings of a modern world ,are from the West. They have contribiute nothing of substance. If the Europeans in Africa had done to the African Negro what the Europeans in America did to the native inhabitants there wouldn't be a"Black" problem in Africa because there would be very few left to bother with and there certainly wouldn't be a Mugabe problem. As it is Negro Africa needs to be dealt with and a re-colonization wouldn't be a bad idea because the $trillions of Western aid and groveling has made matters worse!
Comment: I for one am so sick of hearing about racial issues. The best soultion is for whites to seperate themselves from blacks. How many more people will have to lose their lives on both parts. It's simple and by far the best soultion.
Comment: I am so tired of these racial issues. When are mislead white people going to realize that we need to seperate ourselves from blacks. How many more innocent people will have to die on both sides.
Comment: I agree, you (white people) need to take your inbred @$$e$ back to your frozen tundra of a homeland and stay there.
The people on 4 continents will thank you to get the f--k out.
love,
joe_mama
Comment: Thanks for answering a silly post with an equally silly, unintelligible post. Is this same person with whom I've been having the stimulating dialogue with regarding colonialism, slavery, Mfecane etc.? I'm ashamed for both of you.
