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Why Israel has agreed to release one of its most reviled prisoners in return for the bodies of two Jewish soldiers.

By Kevin Peraino | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Jul 1, 2008 | Updated: 3:47  p.m. ET Jul 1, 2008

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  • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/08/2008 6:38:04 PM

    Comment: Raven : I really enjoy this bickering between us...I am honestly not racist at all...Its just funny watching how worked up you get, and the funny sh*t you type...ALL of the races have there faults...Im just typing stuff off the top of my head...You can take it or leave it as a truce....If you still want to type this stuff then have at it..Im sure we could keep this going for awhile. Which is fine by me...I rather enjoy reading what you come up with next.

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/08/2008 6:24:51 PM

    Comment: AWSOM I do da love a smawt negwo..Wishin I had som teef to tawk beta wif...Like I pointed out before...Thats what black prisoners love is pedophiles...Seeing how the odds and stats are pretty good youll be with the other brothers in prison fightin against da man, then Id be angry to...Otherwise I cant stand the same old boo hooing you and your fellow brothers from another mother spill over and over about your poor pathetic lives...How repressed you are, how you just cant get a break from the hood...How the white man is just puttin you down...Cops is waaay more funny than the predator show..."What occifer?...I di int do any thang!" Officer: "Then why do you have a crack pipe and this mans bike in your possesion?"..Idiot black man:" What bike?...Oh dat bike ?...Um I foun dit over dere" sweat dripping from his face. Cop: "Thats a police planted bike in a sting operation". Idiot criminal: "Nuh uh I got dat bike from my friend"..Cop: We have you on tape stealing it"..Dumb criminal:" What tape you aint gots me on no tape"..Cop:" What about this crack pipe we found in your pocket?"...High sweaty Criminal:" Um what crack pipe?" Cop: " This one right here" dumb criminal" Oh dat? Dats not mine , Im holding it for a friend, honest! " Cop: Yeah yeah you got the right to remain silent...." Im sure you know the rest Raven...:) P.S My necks not red, Im tan from using the pool alot this summer...Also arent rednecks associated with ppl born and raised in the southern states?..Unless ppl from Southern Cal are considered rednecks. I think thats what all black highschool dropouts call white ppl these days..Also what did Raven get for his birthday?...MY BIKE!

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/08/2008 11:41:40 AM

    Comment: My hatred would be toward the ignorance that ppl have toward one another...For example Ravens rude comments calling ppl crackers and expecting to get away with it cause hes "african american"...Bull if he wants to be treated as an equal than take criticism like an equal...And I am right arafat was a fat lipped , bug eyed arrogant thug...He swiped money meant for his ppl and lined his own pockets, and yet the brain washed ppl dont see him for what he really was....Guess its no different than ppl loving Bonnie and Clyde or AL Capone from the Depression era,..Later on in history they will understand that they worshipped a murderous thug that really could have care less for them.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 07/08/2008 5:43:31 PM

      Comment: Those are your ignorant thoughts--redneck. Call me what you like--cracker. I CAN take it. But it appears you can't. You've been spewing your racist crap for months, and whines when it's thrown back at you. Typical racist child molester. I can spell jackass, too--dolt.
      I keep telling you, wigger--those hip hop references are lost on me. You keep trying to attach me to some of these negroes you apparently admire. "Das & dis n dat, sagging pants"? What the fu*k are you babbling about--wigger? Get off that meth, pedophile, and stop screwing your daughter. And leave that rap crap alone--wigger. I know your flat white a$$ can't keep YOUR pants up, but maybe you should use ellie mae's rope. What's funny is when they show you white pedophiles on T.V. going to some house to pick up some little boy or girl you met on the internet--child molester. Now that be some damn funny $hit to watch. Seeing you rednecks actually turn red! And to hear the excuses you people use when you're busted! Now that's entertainment! And it's spelled improving--without the "e"--moron. Yeah, schools in da hood are improving--but the ones in your trailer park sure aren't--bozo.

      • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/08/2008 6:55:59 PM

        Comment: No "e"..Ok I will remember that next time....WOw you are so smart...Maybe you should go to work in the hood and teach the poor downtroddened kids proper english and to dance. Then there would be a movie made in your honor about how you helped all the home boys and home girls that just couldnt make it real class and....Oh wait those movies have been done a hundred times over....Sorry....And dont play like you have no clue to the "HIP HIP" lingo...That just makes you look like a total liar..And your fellow homies dont like "UNCLE TOMS" to much....Isnt a "wigger " like a teenaged whiteboy pretending to be like Eminem or is it Enima?

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/07/2008 5:11:13 PM

    Comment: The Israelis had the Gaza strip and it did fine...Then when they let it go, the palestinians turned it into there own personal slums...Imagine if they got there hands on Israel...A beautiful place would be turned into rubble and squaller and the palestinian thugs would still want more...Let them perish in there own greed, savagery it would be of there own making. p.s arafat (purposely lowercased out of disrespect) is exactly that fat and full of air...Leave it to thugs to worship a fat lipped, bug eyed thug.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/08/2008 11:33:07 AM

      Comment: Oh good you can spell moron, and capitalize it even...The schools in da hood must be improveing...Now if you can just tie your shoes and wear a belt on those sagging pants then you would be half way decent...Hey lets get rid of the "das, dis n dat"..That ruins the American language, and we dont want to look anymore stupid then you make ppl look on cops...unless ofcourse you need me to talk like that so you can understand what Im saying...Right "G' or "APPLE" or "STRANG" or whatever goofy nickname you clowns want to come up with..Then again tyrone sounds funny to.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 07/08/2008 9:45:45 AM

      Comment: There's no end to your hate and stupidity, is there--MORON (Purposely captalized to show how big of a MORON you are)?

  • Posted By: Akmatic @ 07/02/2008 1:18:17 PM

    Comment: How does the decision to release violent prisoners for 'remains' do anything but encourage the Palestinian militant groups to kidnap and kill more civilians/soldiers? I hope they've at least tagged all of these animals with some kind of GPS sensor under their skin so they can at least drop some guided ordinance on top of them at a later date. These are people who do not deserve a place in society...

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/09/2008 7:45:31 PM

      Comment: Now Now thats racism, and some ppl cant take it( ahem Raven).

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/02/2008 1:03:22 PM

    Comment: ISREAL CAN AND ALWAYS WILL GET AWAY WITH IT ALL, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO STOP THEM! WE ALLOW THEM TO SELL WEAPONS TO CHINA AGAINST THE ARMS BANN, ANY OTHER COUNTRY TRIES, WE NAIL THEM TO THE U.N, BUT NOT ISREAL! NO, NEVER! MORONS! THEY PLAY US ALL AS FOOLS, AND WE ENJOY IT!

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/05/2008 9:52:08 AM

      Comment: The U.N. has become a money guzzling joke that has outlived its purpose...It serves no purpose other than sit on the sidelines and watch nations spiral into turmoil...No 'rogue' nation fears or respects them, they send most of there units unarmed to conflicts to be killed(as if the blue helmets are a special shield), and are responsible for allowing 100s of 1000s to die, while they send Strongly worded letters "denouncing" everything....Seems like in Isreal for every one soldier of theres thats killed, 10 militants die...those are good odds.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/02/2008 12:53:44 PM

    Comment: No our native Americans are still exspecting small pox laced blankets. Isreal can do as it pleases, and relese anyone they please, SELL WEAPONS TO CHINA AGAINST THE ARMS BANN! Just as the Yemans, [Saudis Vegas] Relesed EVERY TERRORIST FOUND GUILTY OF BOMBING THE USS HOOD, SOME EVEN ESCAPED,RECAPTURED, THEN RELESED! WHY? BECAUSE THEY CAN, AND WE THE USA WILL NOT DO A DARN THING ABOUT IT!! IF IRAN DID, AS ISREAL DOES! WAR WOULD BE ON TODAY!!! They are the strongest military in the entire region nuked to the hilt and armed far better than we are! So no American NEED to BLEED for them. If they are the chosen they will survive. Nuke and radiate every drop of oil in the Middle-East but who cares, right? It's ONLY the WORLDS SUPPLY, not all ours though! 1 sucide bomber gets 4 Apache Hellios, with 8 sidewinders, into any neighborhood, special of the day, kids alla sidewinder, out of vengence, fair exchange 15 children to 2 adults the bomber took out, fair? Gods Will??? I doupt it!! If I were God they would be on the sh** list.
    Bassdrum777
    So what does that make us??? The killers of more civilians than Hussain,OBL, that's what!
    Just how do you fight an army with hellios,tanks,mobil artilery and airpower, with just people, and not one item of military equip, save for an RPG here and there, and a gun???

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/07/2008 4:40:02 PM

      Comment: Your math sounds right...But dont forget the main part of your equation...Chicken sh*t militants that are stupid enough to take shots at those Apaches then run into buildings purposefully putting those "15" children in harms way....When you are able to see whats in those building then you can be the ace pilot that saves the day by only hitting your militant target...otherwise you are just spouting stupidity.

    • Posted By: basedrum777 @ 07/02/2008 1:02:14 PM

      Comment: You don't do it by killin innocents. If you truly believe that any God including your own believes in this type of behavior than it is you who I feel sorry for. But I bet you say you're very religious and feel justified in your actions. Hypocrit.

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/02/2008 1:10:17 PM

        Comment: DEFINE INNOCENTS, BECAUSE A LIVING BREATHING PALISTIAN, IS A THREAT! NO MATTER WHAT AGE, AS FAR AS ISRAEL BELIEVES!

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/02/2008 1:06:37 PM

        Comment: GOD IS USED AS AN EXCUSE FOR ACTIONS DONE OUT OF STUPIDITY. NO I'M NOT RELIGIOUS.. I SERVED THERE!

  • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/02/2008 11:22:27 AM

    Comment: Interesting that not to long ago, Isreal was saying we won't bargin with terrorist.
    And here they are bargaining with hizbshaton(the party of devil in arabic) never the less, they are tredding on thin ice. Isreal is in reality weak, and they need american backing without this, no money, no weapons, no land and no life. they would be forced back to the nomadic lives they onced lived.
    So of course they will always promote oppression from losing what the stole, what is took by force is kept by it. May the Isrealis be cursed and hizballah they are the same.

  • Posted By: garysgary @ 07/02/2008 10:57:56 AM

    Comment: I agree with Karenn1 Israeli's should stop selling fear all the time. It's my opinion that Israelis would not be attacked if they had not taken Palistine from the Palistinians. Admit it...you stole their country. And don't give me this crap about the promised land. The God I know does not promise land...He promises eternal life in Heaven for a life well lived and that is all. Israel needs to disarm completely...open its borders to the Palistinians and accept the fact that Jews are a minority in the middle east and the world. U.S. should dump Israel...We would still be the greatest democracy, have the greatest military and be the greatest economic engine the world has ever seen. We don't need Israel and we sure as hell don't need to be fighting wars for them. Leiberman is a traitor to the U.S. He has become an agent of Israel!

    • Posted By: basedrum777 @ 07/02/2008 11:56:03 AM

      Comment: I'm not sure what numbers you are looking at but ISrael has one of the largest standing armies in the world and is armed to the teeth with nukes. To indicate that they couldn't take care of themselves is to ignore the obvious. Maybe earlier in their existence that would have been true but now that is not even close to reality.

      • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 07/08/2008 10:30:31 AM

        Comment: But they wouldn't dare use those nukes, and having "one of the largest standing armies in the world" don't mean $hit. Look what happened to Russia in Afghanistan. Look what happened to the U.S. in Vietnam. You can go back to our own revolution, and look what we did to Great Britain--the most powerful country in the world at that time. Israel would have gone under long ago if not for the U.S. and Europe. They use torture (which they have admitted to), and they instantly return bullets for rocks. They break the hands and/or arms of the youth they catch throwing rocks at them, and they bomb villages without any concern for the women and children. You people need to stop tryin to make israel out to be the victim. It's ironic--no sad--that they would use the very same violent tactics against these people that the nazis used against them, and use propaganda to make themselves feel justified.

  • Posted By: Marinegrunti39 @ 07/02/2008 10:47:05 AM

    Comment: one's man terrorist is another man freedom fighter. The questions is who is the real terrorist? the one that blows him or her self up killing civilians or the one that shoots or drop bombs in buildings killings women and children. Since the second intifada in 2000 over 4,800 Palestinians were killed by Israeli soldiers of which 1/3 were children. During the June 2009 war in Lebanon over 1,200 Lebanese monstly civilians were killed. So! who has more blood on their hands?

    • Posted By: stematwork @ 07/02/2008 10:56:53 AM

      Comment: care to explain why they retailiate that way, marinegrunti39? could it be the incessent suicide bombings specifically TARGETTING kids? The fact that Israel is surrounded by hostile countries bent on their destruction?
      Israel doesn't target kids...they target leaders and militants who try to use women and children as shields so morons like you will condemn their retaliation.

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/02/2008 12:59:59 PM

        Comment: WAKE UP, IT IS A SLAUGHTER ON THE PART OF ISRAEL! HOW DARE YOU SAY THERE MISSLES ONLY HIT THE TARGET THEY AIM FOR! B.S. THEY DON'T EVEN TRY TO MISS THE CHILDREN, BECAUSE ONE LESS PALISTAIN IS ONE LESS, CHILD OR NOT!!!

      • Posted By: Marinegrunti39 @ 07/02/2008 11:41:05 AM

        Comment: lets be clear Palesinians have been under occupation by Israel for the past 41 years and they have every right to fight against this occupation because they dont want end up like the native American indians.
        "israel dont target kids" are you joking? there have been numerous incidents were Palestinian kids were shot by trigger happy soldiers while playing soccer close to the illegal Jewish setllement .
        I fought in Nam I know something about war- we would go to a ville after receiving a couple sniper rounds we then retaliate by burning the village and shooting anything that moves including women and children.
        So dont tell me that israeli soldiers dont do the same!! it's moron like you who only wants to see and hear one side of the story that has been fed to the American people by the biased main steam eletronic media the like of Fox, CNN & MSNBC and print media

        • Posted By: observer101 @ 07/07/2008 4:48:43 PM

          Comment: Well then tell me the story how the israelis had the land they are (occupying) thousands of years ago. I like how it ends when they get it back in the 1940s.

      • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/02/2008 11:28:11 AM

        Comment: Wow you are the most ignorant victum of propaganda i've read on these comments. The isrealis set up bombs on the paths of palestinian roads that children use for going to school, but you wouldn't know that because it only makes 4th page news. And isreal soilder feels a shock in his leg from a small firecraker that land 5 feet away from him makes front page news. stematwork, you really need to inform yourself.

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 07/02/2008 11:41:07 AM

          Comment: And you really need to stop peddling opinion as if it were fact. Where are your citations man? Where is your evidence that the Israelis are deliberately ''setting bombs'' on ''Palestinian roads''as opposed to the evidence gleaned right here in NEWSWEEK that HAMAS deliberately attacks elementary schools in Israels Sderdot with rockets?[You will be reminded that this area is not a portion of ''contested''or ''occupied''lands.It is a portion of the 1948 United Nations Mandate and thus is Israel proper].

          • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/02/2008 12:41:39 PM

            Comment: I acually find it amusing that you used the word "deliberately" set up bombs. As if bombs drop from peoples pockets and then set up themselves.

          • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/02/2008 12:31:15 PM

            Comment: Mr. Holmes, this is not a mistery... the Isrealis invaded, then killed and pillaged, and anybody with half a brain and a intrest in history can discover this. Also every Isreali is a soilder or potential soilder, because their law forces their citizens to join the israeli army meaning that all their citizens are soilders and all soilders can therefore be targeted weather off duty or in schools. You probably didn't know that either.
            Since you seem to be highly biast in your reply. I ask you to do one thing, look at the tallies of how many Isrealis have been killed and then look at the tallies of how many Palestians have been killed the numbers speak for themselves, and also check how many children are from those tallies. Peddling opinion is one thing, but you promote ignorance.

            • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 07/02/2008 3:23:26 PM

              Comment: More garbage. Few American civilians were killed in WWII. Millions of German and Japanese ones were. This did not make the US a ''bad''or ''aggressor''nation. What is occuring here,rather,is that the hatred that is passed down from one ''Palestinian''generation to the next harbours not even a scintilla of a prospect of peace. Not when they are brainwashed by a pack of rackateering thugs[which was what Arafat was. While Israeli governments,right and left,came and went by democratic votes of the people,Arafat was a dictator-for-life feeding off the misery of his own people to the tune of hundreds of millions of ripped-off aid dollars to the ''Palestinian''people. Indeed,his widow,firmly enconsed in Paris,remains one of the worlds richest women with a personal worth of nearly a billion dollars,all of it,stolen from the Gazan peoples].
              Try being a gay man in Gaza. You would not live to see the next minute of your life. In Israel,''gay pride''parades and openly gay enclaves in Tel Aviv are a common occurance. In Israel,''collaborators''with the Gazans are called ''peace lobbys''.In Gaza,they are shot and beaten to death. In Israel,Muslims are allowed to visit their holy-of -holies to mark the alleged ''prophet''Mohammeds ascension into Heaven. If Jews try to do the same thing at the same site,with regards to their Hebrew God,the ''Palestinians''launch intifadas and bravely begin killing innocents in ice cream parlours.
              Heres some more of your bulls..t ''ignorance''Slave:

              ''You have five apples. A jew comes along and steals three of them. How many are left''?

              ''Palestinian''Mathematics Textbook,Primary Grade,2002.

              These people are little better than Nazis. ''Protocols of the Elders of Zion''[helpfully created into a television miniseries by HEZBOLLAH in 2005].''Mein Kamph''[Hitler,Adolf,1926],as best seller in the Gaza Strip. Blood libel,religious and racial hatred,the wanton murder of sexual minorities. The problem with your ''Palestine''is that it is too large to be a country,too small to be an insane asylum.

              • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/03/2008 2:46:42 AM

                Comment: Okay, history check... when did america join world war two, not in the beginning. so to compare loss of life to germans and japanese is once again a big green arrow pointing to your lack of education. Also America had atomics, and used 2 of them on Japan, hence the killing of alot of civilians giving the high numbers you mentioned. Also nobody is defending the Arafat, that is low blow holmes, and somewhat desperate.
                Again you make it sound like being a homosexual is something people need to accept, your very wrong, open homosexuality is something condemed in most of the world, and even still largly condemed in america, I can see you have a shortsighted view of what human rights are. let me guess, to you homosexuality is okay, prostitution should be legal, and a man or a woman sleeping around is also okay.
                But a man who has 3 or 4 wives who he takes care of is wrong and oppression. Great now that we understand each other, I will answer your question cincerning the apples, "i would have five apples, because i would beat ass and take them back."

                • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 07/03/2008 3:12:57 PM

                  Comment: Heh. I can ride circles around you in the area of historical discussion. This is just such a time. You ignore the fact that the Russians did not bomb Dresden[1944-45],Hamburg[1943-45],Munich[1944-45],or Schweinfurt[1943-45]. Nor did they bomb Tokyo[1944-45],Kobe[1944-45],Osaka[1944-45],which produced higher casualties than both atom bomb drops put together. Indeed,the mightiest air fleets ever assembled in the history of this planet were by the Americans,who dropped more tonnage than all of its allies combined including the Russians,who had greater tactical bombing arms than they did strategic.
                  ''We simply ran out of places to bomb'' Remarks,Gen.Ira Eaker,USAAF,Mar.1945. The United States literally bombed Germany into a pile of rubble,followed by Japan. Again,this did not make the US an ''aggressor''nation.
                  Pass to Arafat,and he remains ''defended''to this day,or have you not viewed the two-story high posters and murals of the man in downtown Gaza which are there right now? The Capone-like Arafat remains a hero to the blighted Gazans to this minute,and mores the pity. Neither their fanatic interpretation of their religion,nor their following of a pack of cutthroat crooks will allow them to evolve past a gunslinging,bombstrapping,knuckledragging stage.
                  As to homosexuals,this is you peddling this garbage. Not I. While no-one is being forced to ''accept''these,KILLING them is as obscene as anything else these moronic Muslims are pulling all across the Middle East. My ''view''of ''human rights''is infinately more capable than anything construed by a Semitic,Turkic,or Persian Muslim. I have no problems with allowing churches and synagogues to stand beside mosques. These idiots do. I have no problems with women wearing what they choose, jobs they work,holding office, getting a higher education,running a business,even driving a motor vehicle.These idiots do. I do not advocate stoning women to death for ''adultery''. These idiots do.A dog is not an ''unclean animal''to me,but a useful companion. Not to these idiots however. When my God is held up to disbelief or even ridicule or parody,I do not call for ''death to those who insult''my God. These other idiots do.I do not believe in the arranged marriage to a twelve-year-old girl. These other idiots do. I do not believe in the ''honour killing''of daughters or sons who are not toeing the party line. These other idiots do. So much for your ''human rights''as practiced by these neanderthals.[who are regressive. Islam once upon a time had lit streets,internal plumbing,mastery of the movement of planets,mathematics and medicine when London and Paris were a collection of mud huts. Now they offer nothing more than misery,greed and exploitation. Indeed,go to a Dubai,or other oil-sated Emirates kingdom and virtually all of their worth is farmed out to Indian doctors,British architects,and American bankers].

                  • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/05/2008 12:56:17 PM

                    Comment: You are comparing numbers in combination, never the less you must of forgot that i said 2 atomic bombs giving the civilians casulties mentioned above. Not 1.
                    Anyways, people with internet can access the information you looked up. I ask you one question? Do you believe in prophets mentioned in the bible? If so these are there words, "stone the adulter" in their torah, it is very clear why God killed the the homosexuals in sodom and gamora." Jews, Christians, and Muslims can live together and if you look at the time of the of the ottoman empire alot of Jews living under islamic rule prospered more then muslims and enjoyed several rights. I am also very cinvinced now that you know very little about muslims and have confused culture with religion. I ask you how old was Mary when the angel Gabriel blew into her sleeve, most christian scholars say 12 or 13. Now would you be brave enough to say the creator should have waited until she was older. The dog is a filthy animal that eats it's own *** even after it has been fed well. You ignore real situation after the fall of the last kalifah(muslim ruler) you should see who was involved in keeping muslims poor, bombed and, less educated...it wasn't bin laden. Look at the presidents and kings and there friends in Britain, France, Italy, and other European countries if you want a full picture. I'm not in to writting long drawn out useless explinations like yourself. But If you really studied history then you would see the world picking at muslims like an "all you can eat buffet." Alot of idiot calling so indirectly you call the prophets idiots since SOME of the things you mentioned were orders from them. So your god you mentioned... has no tie to the real God obviously since the real God gives us rules and orders to follow. Your god seems to follow your desires which in reality is a false god. And the the real God is free of what you assert to him. Anything else Mr. Holmes or are you still trying to solve and explain mysteries that aren't. I will be awaiting one of your worthless responses.

      • Posted By: garysgary @ 07/02/2008 11:07:13 AM

        Comment: The reason they are surrounded by people that hate them is because they stole Palistine from the Palistinians...Go figure.

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 07/02/2008 11:56:56 AM

          Comment: Garbage. Indeed,what is a ''Palestinian''? What is ''Palestine''for this matter? Leaving the ''Promised Land''out of the discussion for the moment,we replace religion with science. What does science tell us? Or actualized history?

          Two things. One. Ancient Judaism and its archeological remnants predate Islam by thousands of years,and,Two. Jewish cities and settlements predate the existance of a race known as ''Palestinian''by the same amount of time. These ''Palestinians''of whom you refer are Hashemite Jordanians,indeed,Bedu themselves who predated the existance of a ''Jordan'',yet settled in this region when Jews,not ''Palestinians''were living in a region known as ''Judea''. The Romans acknowlaged this fact. So did the Greeks. So too did the Persians,the Assyrians,and the Hittites. This land belongs to the Jews,as science,not ''religion''would confer. And even without any of this,it was to the United Nations that would allow for the existance of a state no differant than that which America has conferred under its many indiginous tribes[yet people living in Rapid City,Phoenix,Lincoln,or Laramie,are not expecting hordes of Sioux,Cheyenne,Navajo,and Apache to murder them with bulldozers and bombs strapped to their chests because America ''stole our land''].

          • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/02/2008 1:05:10 PM

            Comment: Once again your comment is baseless and biast. You can not compare the establishment of America to the Isreali occupation(though there might be some similarties) First off arceological digs does not stake claim to land. The palestianes were living there when there were no jews or very little. Second they (the jews) used to rent land from the palestianes, and moved in alot of their people, then when they had alot of their kind living there they attacked and invaded by using treachery. Third, Judaism is a name that they gave themselves, because of the tribe of Judah, there were 13 tribes one was known as Judah. But Judaism would have started from that time. If you read the Torah(without jewish additions or subtractions) you will find a religion that is similar to Islam. Now the word "Islam" is not english therefore can not be designated as such. Translate the word at it means "Submission" submission to God. And since all Prophets submitted to God that would make them Muslims, so those who followed their prophets would accually be following Islam. Also the ancient civilizations you mentioned recognized them as isrealis also not jews. Hope and the Arabs were always living there, since there time also since on of the 13tribes was Arab.

            • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/03/2008 3:05:26 AM

              Comment: And since one of the 13 tribes of Jews were arabs, and there are also still alot of Arab jews in the world, found in Palestine, Yemen, Jordan and Egypt and other places. Also If you read the Torah, it says, "don't return to Palestine" This was mentioned to me by an orthodox Jew. (I study comparitive religion, and science) As for the native americans, it is sad what happened to them, but since the europeans killed over 35 million native americans (and never called it terrorism by the way) they have very little chance of resistance. Also they sold alot of their land by choice(not rent, SOLD) but we know when they (the first americans) were pushed far west, they resisted for almost 90 years, until they were just outnumbered and overpowered. But the Isrealis are not favored in this factor since their numbers are so small, they will always have difficulty, and hopfully go extinct.

        • Posted By: basedrum777 @ 07/02/2008 11:52:55 AM

          Comment: I think the opinion that Palistinians were entitled to that land before it was split between the Jews that lived there and the Muslims that lived there is just that. An opinion. There is never an excuse to shoot a child like that described in the article. If the Palistinians really want the sympathy of the rest of the world they would be smart to stop blowing themselves and civilians up. That won't get you anywhere. I for one don't really care who owns the land but any group justifying the killing of civilians to advance their cause are barbaric and will never get sympathy from the majority of the world.

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 07/02/2008 9:58:41 AM

    Comment: Your both wrong,so stop the bull.Trying to sell fear to americans is getting old.You S O B in the middleast have been fighting since Reglion began.Sick of the bull from both side.U S should stay out of it.

  • Posted By: yosefjason @ 07/02/2008 8:32:36 AM

    Comment: Its not militant its Terrorist! If anyone is confused about the good guy/bad guy split between arabs and Jews just read this story. The Arabs treach their children to strap bombs to themsleves and dance in the streets on 9-11-Including the onese in Dearborn, MI. The Jews release their enemies to properly bury our children. Not to mention Its always a few 100 terrorist for one or 2 Jews, shows who's more valiued by their society. Golda Meir said there will be peace when the Arabs love their children more then they hate the Jews, that will never happen. For their to peace the Arabs would have to tell their populations that there really was an acneint Israel and Jews lived there 2000 years ago. They can never do that. G-D bless Israel the only country in the Middle East that grants civil rights to Muslims.

  • Posted By: wtmgeo @ 07/02/2008 2:17:16 AM

    Comment: It is just so incredible that the Arabs make heroes of monsters like this. Even in our often horrifying world, it is absolutely shocking.

    • Posted By: Marinegrunti39 @ 07/02/2008 11:02:16 AM

      Comment: After Goldstein massacred 25 Palestinians while they were praying in the Mosque in Hebron. Jewish settlers eracted a monument in memory of Goldstein declaring him a hero

  • Posted By: bostonBC @ 07/02/2008 1:11:24 AM

    Comment: So much for never bowing down to terrorists. This piece of garbage should have gotten a bullet between his eyes a long time ago.

 
 
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