‘The Wild Horse Is Us’

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  • Posted By: JLJacks @ 07/02/2008 3:47:42 PM

    Once again, U. S. government is proposing treating the symptom, rather than the disease. The real issue is not that euthanasia is the answer to creating a ???manageable??? population of wild mustangs (and what is more manageable than zero?). Any good manager will tell you that ???mismanagement??? stems not from the lack of materials, whether that be money or land, but from the inefficient and often selfish choices of the managers themselves. Clearly the first point of mismanagement was in thinning the wild herds; they are now on the road to extinction. A viable answer is certainly to try to reintegrate the corralled horses back into the wild population. However, that is not the real issue at hand. The real issue is: where will American???s draw the line between profit and protecting the environment? The real issue is that the wild mustang herds are more profitable dead, when their land can be used to cattle ranching and the infinite financial gains that idea implies. How many times in our history has the government let ???profit,??? whether in the form of money, land, or oil, lead to a decision of which we are still suffering the consequences? Take a good look at the issues within our election campaigns and ask yourself Americans: Is our government and our leaders offering solutions to the ???symptom??? or are they actually offering solutions to the disease? When you treat a symptom ??? you are still ailing ??? still dying. We only conquer when we treat the disease.

  • Posted By: SWEETMACEY @ 07/02/2008 3:45:34 PM

    I CAN'T BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS COME TO THIS POINT!!!! WHAT'S NEXT? IF OUR GOVERNMENT PUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN PROTECTING OUR WILDLIFE, FORESTS, OCEANS & RIVERS AS THEY DO SPENDING MONEY OVERSEAS IN A WAR THAT IS BUSH ORIENTED WAR, THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE A LOT BETTER OFF. IF EXTERMINATION IS THE ANSWER, LETS START WITH THE IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON.

  • Posted By: twnpnds @ 07/02/2008 3:43:39 PM

    For starters, mustangs are feral, not wild horses. They are all domestic horses. I believe there needs to be some kind of management but not by ruthlessly killing them. What about gelding? This could possibly help to control the population. Yes, it will take rounding them up and having someone to geld them. Males 6 months and up could be gelded and a small mark branded on their hip to show they are gelded. This way when out on the range they could be easily identified. A few choice stallions would be left for breeding. I also like the idea of prisoners gentling and training the mustangs. This can be a win win situation. Both learn about trust and respect. Yeah, I know they have a budget too. But, these trained horses can be adopted and the fee can go back into the prison's program. Just a few ideas. I have seen BLM horses ridden on the trails by small children. Talk about a faithful steed! You'd be surprised how gentle and trusting they can become with respect, time and patience. If I could adopt and care for a few I would. But if others that are able, would adopt one or two that would help. I have heard horse breeders say things like I wouldn't have one of those "mutts". How mean! Hate to say it, but your purebreds were mutts at one time too and may very well have some of the same blood as our mustangs. Wouldn't it be nice if our nation's budget was totally for OUR nation? God save the horses!!!!!!

  • Posted By: svanny99 @ 07/02/2008 3:42:30 PM

    Wild horses did *not* survive the ice age in America. All large mammals went extinct around the time that modern humans arrived in the Americas, likely a result of over-hunting. Today's wild horses are non-native transplants descended from animals brought from Europe after 1492.

  • Posted By: johnlr @ 07/02/2008 3:42:24 PM

    I think that we as Americans need to stop being to court happy and need to leave certain things alone. The wild horses has never caused any harm to civilization, we has humans are always running around causing havoc to everything. You snoddy, closed minded Hipocrates just need to leave things alone. People are always complaining about things but never want to change things in a positive way. The horses as well as the indians were here long before the white man was, and look the white man took away the indian land, now we keep wanting to change things that is causes environmental changes at are not good, AND YOU KNOW IT, but you just keep on destroying things around us then complain because change was made. I, personally get so angry with the American people on how you all are, you as Americans are just a disappointment to others who are trying so hard to live in harmony and peace.

  • Posted By: svanny99 @ 07/02/2008 3:41:58 PM

    Wild horses did *not* survive the ice age in America. All large mammals went extinct around the time that modern humans arrived in the Americas, likely a result of over-hunting. Today's wild horses are non-native transplants descended from animals brought from Europe after 1492.

  • Posted By: palmerlinda@charter.net @ 07/02/2008 3:21:50 PM

    Once again the American Government has taken a stand against a innocent. First off why are there 33,000 Mustang's in Government corrals???? They should be free to roam the plains with the other animals, that have survived century's without man and should be allowed to remain to do what is natural to them not to us. Time and time again the people have given the government the power to change, our land, our religions, our speech and our very basic rights to live and breath. Now we are giving them the creatures as well and they didn't even get to vote. SHAME on all people that do not take a stand on even the most basic freedom of a animal; living in the wild, roaming and surviving on it's own without our help. You want to allow Uncle Who??? to take that as well??? Have another cocktail and change the channel...
    And what is a "desertdonkey" anyway?

    • Posted By: hsineexas @ 07/02/2008 3:41:38 PM

      Desertdonkey is another way of describing an ignoramus.

  • Posted By: patb1 @ 07/02/2008 3:17:36 PM

    Yup, leave it up to Mankind, the worlds most efficient natural born killers, to wipe another population off the face of the Earth. And what a grand race we are, narcisstic, greedy, self centered, we kill everything we come in contact with, including ourselvers, most of it done in the name of some unseen God we claim is personally on each of our sides.Soon, the scarcity of all living things and the eroding of our habitat brought on by our murderous, overpopulating ways will leave only ourselves to kill, which I am sure we will rapidly accomplish faster than you can spell extinct. Only then will the Earth be in peace and in a position to make sure the infestation known as humans will never walk its face again.

    • Posted By: earthmother97 @ 07/02/2008 3:40:38 PM

      Without doubt the most intelligent response out of every single one here.

      *salute*

  • Posted By: SWEETMACEY @ 07/02/2008 3:40:13 PM

    BEFORE WE KNOW IT, THE GOVERNMENT WILL WANT TO EUTHANIZE PEOPLE FOR OVER POPULATION
    DIDN'T WE THE PEOPLE VOTE TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES IN OFFICE TO HEAR OUR VOICES? I THINK HUMANS HAVE DONE WAY MORE TO DESTROY THE LAND, OCEANS, RAIN FORESTS AND ANIMAL SPECIES THAN THE ANIMALS. WHEN DOES ALL OF THIS STOP???? THE ANIMAL KINGDOM CANNOT POSSIBLY MATCH THE DESTRUCTION THAT MAN HAS CAUSED AND OUR GOVERNMENT. IT'S NOT OUR GOVERNMENT ANYMORE. IT BELONGS TO THE IDIOTS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN GOVERNMENT OFFICES

  • Posted By: mollyrambo57 @ 07/01/2008 10:44:50 PM

    you are quite right about the cattle being the real problem as far as manageing the land, they need to get all those horses out of BLM management, and the money, [and that is a huge amount] could be spent on doing some things to manage the horses, YEA PETA IS GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THIS, SO WHAT, ROUND UP AS MANY TIMES A YEAR AS THEY CAN, TO GET FOALS EARLY AND THEY CAN GELD MOST OF THE STALLIONS AND THEIR IS BIRTH CONTROL FOR HORSES THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO THE MARES, THE FOALS CAN BE TAKEN AS EARLY AS 2 MONTHS AS LONG AS THEY GET SUPPLEMENTAL MILK IN SOME WAY, BOTTLES, OR BUCKETS THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE PEOPLE , ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE WASTEING ON KEEPING HORSES IN CORRALS THAT ARE TOO OLD OR CONSIDERED UMADOPTABLE, ANYWAY NATURE TAKES CARE OF THE OLD AND AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IT IS CRUEL THAT IS THE WAY IT IS AND IT IS A FORM OF CONTROL OF HERD SIZE SO PETA GET OVER YOURSELVES, THAT IS THE WAY NATURE MEANT THINGS TO BE, there is plenty they can do with that money that they use to feed and shelter horses that should be out on the range, horses have been gelded for years without a vet, and make use of veternairy students, there is no reason to be killing these horses, HOW ABOUT TAKING ABOUT 100,000 OF THESE CATTLE OFF THE RANGE AND THAT WOULD MORE THAN SUPPORT THESE HORSES, AND I AM NOT SAYING TO STOP CONTROLING THE POPULATION OR ADOPTING OUT FOALS EITHER, BUT STOP ADOPTING OUT THE ONES THA DO NOT MAKE GOOD PROSPECTS, AND AFTER A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME THE PEOPLE THAT ADOPT THESE FOALS SHOULD BE GIVEN CLEAR TITLE TO THEM TO SELL OR TRADE HOWEVER THEY WANT, RIGHT NOW IF SOMEONE ADOPTS ONE OF THESE HORSES OR BURROS, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THAT ANIMAL FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG THEY LIVE, NOW WHO WANTS TO TAKE ON THAT, HOW ABOUT 5 YEARS THAT IS REASONABLE AND LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING,

    • Posted By: TerryWatt @ 07/02/2008 12:36:52 AM

      MollyRambo - where are you getting your information? When you adopt a wild horse/burro the BLM holds title for ONE YEAR, then you get title IF you have properly cared for the animal. This is to deter people buying wild horses cheap to immediately resell to slaughter for 5 or 6 times what they paid.

      • Posted By: alena110 @ 07/02/2008 3:13:25 PM

        While I agree that the horses should be left alone, not killed, it's just cruel, but what about all the poor innocent kids that get murdered everyday at planned parenthood, I don't hear anyone saying how heartless that is, people please get your priorities straight!

        • Posted By: earthmother97 @ 07/02/2008 3:39:38 PM

          yeah, kids getting murdered....that REALLY is the topic of conversation...

          give it a rest, you imbecile

        • Posted By: sunmac1 @ 07/02/2008 3:26:57 PM

          Then you don't listen.

  • Posted By: jblippman @ 07/02/2008 3:38:48 PM

    Of all the things our government spends money on, preserving these horses seems a lot more worthwhile than :
    $375,000,000 for an unrequested and unneeded amphibious assault ship in the state of Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.);
    $700,000 for the Admiral Theater in Bremerton, Washington, the district of House appropriator Norm Dicks (D-Wash.), despite a $4.2 million privately-funded facelift; and
    $500,000 for the Olympic Tree Program in the state of Senate appropriator Robert Bennett for the 2002 Winter Olympics.
    These are just a few random instances of pork barrel spending that we should be pursuing instead of killing off these beautiful wild creatures.

  • Posted By: FirstZebra @ 07/02/2008 3:15:55 PM

    SHOOT the buggers
    They were never native species anyways.. Kinda like +reasers!

    • Posted By: BIFFBIRD @ 07/02/2008 3:37:50 PM

      YOU ACTUALLY DON'T SOUND LIKE YOU'RE A NATIVE EITHER. DO I DETECT A FOREIGN TWANG?

    • Posted By: palmerlinda@charter.net @ 07/02/2008 3:24:10 PM

      Could you stand to the right, my aim is a little off..........

  • Posted By: klingon23 @ 07/02/2008 3:37:45 PM

    Maybe we should euthanize all the useless PEOPLE in this country. WE are the ones that are over populating the earth. We destroy everything in our path to make way for more greedy, needy & selfish people. Just because we can. We spend millions on housing & supporting criminals, to say nothing of the legal costs defending their rights as criminals, the people who breed as a form of employment because our idiotic government supports those who refuse to help themselves, thereby perpetuating the problem. The uncontrolled reproduction rate is insane. The resources it takes to support them all is insane. We wouldn't need the workforce of our children for their tax dollars if the money were spent properly.

  • Posted By: Jannie3 @ 07/02/2008 3:17:34 PM

    AMAZING, that in a country where there is a church in every country and we are the "good people" of the world, COMPASSION is one of the qualities we lack the most!! Tell you what give my tax dollars that support the Iraq war and give it to our teh tired, to the poor, to the children adn to the ANIMALS!!

    • Posted By: Jannie3 @ 07/02/2008 3:36:39 PM

      AMAZING, that in a country where there is a church in every cornerand we are the "good people" of the world, COMPASSION is one of the qualities we lack the most!! Tell you what give my tax dollars that support the Iraq war and give it to our tired, to our poor, to our children adn to the ANIMALS!!

  • Posted By: klingon23 @ 07/02/2008 3:35:51 PM

    Maybe we should euthanize all the useless PEOPLE in this country. WE are the ones that are over populating the earth. We destroy everything in our path to make way for more greedy, needy & selfish people. Just because we can. We spend millions on housing & supporting criminals, to say nothing of the legal costs defending their rights as criminals, the people who breed as a form of employment because our idiotic government supports those who refuse to help themselves, thereby perpetuating the problem. The uncontrolled reproduction rate is insane. The resources it takes to support them all is insane. We wouldn't need the workforce of our children for their tax dollars if the money were spent properly. Hey Hue, unless you are an American Indian, WE are the invasive species. Not to mention the most destructive. Get YOUR facts right

  • Posted By: cnchaffin @ 07/02/2008 3:35:07 PM

    I know that everyone would like to have America be like it was before it was settled in its entirety. However- this is not possible. Animals adapt as their environment changes as do people. I agree that we need to make sure that we keep as many places as possible free from human "invasion" so that we can have havens that will remind us of what our country once was. However our country has developed into towns and cities which people live and work in. Animals have been forced to adapt to that. But it is no different than in the past, the environment is constantly changing whether from natural forces or invading species. To survive they must adapt. We can't just let wild animals roam free where-ever they want without some regulations on our own part. Wild animals have to live around humans. That is fact- and most of them have adapted quite admirably.

    Also- in response to those who have written about all of the killing we (and our government) has done to native species including Native Americans: I live in Montana which is a state that has many Native Americans, in fact I am half Blackfeet. However I do not see why anyone owes Native Americans anything (land or money) just because my ancestors were killed when other people invaded. This has been repeated over and over in history both for people and animals. When an invading force moves in you either fight back successfully or adapt and move on. I do not think that it should be any different for us Native Americans. We need to adapt better and stop trying to rely on the government for hand outs. We are fully capable of being just as successful as any other American.

  • Posted By: dddmdmsn @ 07/02/2008 3:35:06 PM

    The American public might save more money if we euthanized a few politicians! Should we put it to a vote??

  • Posted By: Narisha @ 07/02/2008 3:33:43 PM

    This may seem like a strange comment but could this be Revelations playing out? Presenting an Act to euthanize strays by setting traps and poison which will affect the feral and domestic feline population and now culling the wild horses which are inherently American. What next? Who are these dimwits who are involved in the decision-making process and who are coming up with these lame and dangerous ideas. I always maintain that someone who will hurt a creature (who is supposedly not so intelligent as we are) would harm the weak and infirm. Children and the old folks fall into that category.

    Are we going to cull the old folks and the children next? After all a life is a life despite the fact that it is represented in a different package. The all powerful US government can't 'overcome on other fronts and chooses to target the humble, meek and innocent. This deserves the scrutiny of the international press and people worldwide. Thank you MSN for highlighting this distressing news!

  • Posted By: HeyBetz @ 07/02/2008 3:32:59 PM

    Here we go again! Let's take a guess who is really behind this yet again. The ranchers are, so who is BLM and the gov't kidding? The horses, just as the wolves are imposing into grazing land and the ranchers have always gotten their way in the end. It's about money when animals are concerned, about their "management", their deaths and eventually their extinction. Is this all for the good of the people as a whole, or to line the pockets of certain individuals? When is Man going to finally realize that for every action there is always a reaction. Once the earth and all of it's inhabitants are destroyed at the hand of man, that's it, there is no second chance.

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