‘The Wild Horse Is Us’

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  • Posted By: mckeand @ 07/02/2008 12:48:05 PM

    I lived in Nevada for years and they used to routinely round up wild horses and adopt them out to ranchers and mustang enthusiasts. The sick and the old were euthanized so that they didn't have to starve to death in the wild. There just isn't enough food for them out there. No natural predators and limited resources is a dire situation in which Mother Nature will "take care of business", but not as cleanly and humanely as euthanasia. To the author of this article, you are full of crap. Horses did not survice the Ice Age.

    About 15,000 years ago all the horses in North and South America died out. It might have been that they were driven extinct by the Ice Age cold. it's also possible that the humans living in America at the
    time hunted them all. The horses you have in America today were brought over from Europe by settlers in
    the 1400s.

    • Posted By: horse luvr @ 07/02/2008 1:53:13 PM

      Am I perceiving your message correctly? Since the horses haven't lived here consecutively then it's okay to eliminate them because as we've encrouched on their habitat and their bothering us that is a reasonable justification.? Sorry, but I dissagree with you and kwhorseluver. Take a step back and view this entire situation with an open mind.

    • Posted By: kwhorseluver @ 07/02/2008 12:58:21 PM

      i love you! i don't think you understand. i've grown up with a ranching father and an environmentilist mother. i also live in nevada and all of these incompitent people r killing me. i actually did my senior thesis on the subject of too many horses. i really am tempted to post it!

      • Posted By: savethearth @ 07/02/2008 1:07:28 PM

        You should have done it on too many people! How do we manage human over population? Nature balances itself

  • Posted By: logicaltexan @ 07/02/2008 1:53:02 PM

    For those that claim the wild horse was introduced here by Europeans.....

    "What is the origin of the horse?
    The animal that we know today as the horse appeared first on the North American continent about 55 million years ago with its four-toed ancestor, Eohippus, meaning ???dawn horse.??? This small animal was about the size of a fox and made its home in swamplands, feeding off plant life."

    Maybe you should do a little research before trying to blast someone for stating what they know is correct, and as far as the article is concerned, it is absolutely disgusting that a wild animal should have to be euthanized because of human greed to have enormous stocks of cows that can be sold for profit, which when all truth is known, causes more ozone destruction than cars from the methane gases released in their waste! Leave the horses alone!

    Eohippus slowly evolved into Mesohippus, the size of an average collie. Mesohippus had three toes and eventually became an inhabitant of the prairie. Its shape changed as its habitat changed: it grew taller, its teeth and middle toe grew longer and eventually became a hoof. The evolution continued until Equus caballus???the horse as we know it today???was formed.

  • Posted By: tm1989 @ 07/02/2008 1:52:55 PM

    All I have to say is "They dare not!" We inhabitants of this earth were charged ages ago to be stewards of this marvelous planet, To date, we have bungled the job miserably through self-interest, political ambition, and unethical capitalistic greed. Maybe, there is still time for us to redeem ourselves by "un-horsing" greed, our contemptible sense of entitlement, and misplaced priorities. Let's dial back on the "buy two, get one free," "it's only one plastic bag," "but I love my gas hog and by ___ I deserve to drive it," and "but I need to make a bundle of money on corn so that third world countries can starve" mentalities and focus on preserving our beautiful world for future generations. Remember the statement "stop the world, I want to get off?" Well, if we don't change our ways soon, there will soon be no world of consequence left to leave.

  • Posted By: dccolo @ 07/02/2008 1:43:24 PM

    There's an 800-pound gorilla in this room. It's called public lands ranching. These
    horses are being removed because they "compete" with cattle for forage. It's done
    at the behest of ranchers who are leasing our land. America's addiction to meat is
    the reason these horses are killed. I videotaped one of these round-ups years ago.
    They're a true tragedy.


    • Posted By: kwhorseluver @ 07/02/2008 1:51:53 PM

      hey you! go naw on a carrot!

  • Posted By: itwasme29 @ 07/02/2008 1:50:59 PM

    Why, do we a country that probably owes it's history to the horse, feel the need to kill this wonderful animal? So something is no longer usefull to some of us, when will this horrible idea be applied to the Old, sick, handicapped? What is wrong with just the wild beauty and freedom, isn't that kind of like killing our own wild beauty and freedom? No this should not happen, these animals can be adopted or left alone.

  • Posted By: by08 @ 07/02/2008 1:50:47 PM

    Sorry, Tony, but these horses aren't 'wild' in the sense that you refer to them as. They didn't 'survive' the ice age in the Americas. They were brought here in the 16th century by the Spaniards.

    That being said, I agree that euthanasia is not the answer.

  • Posted By: KokosMom @ 07/02/2008 1:50:35 PM

    Leave the horses alone and let them run free. Perhaps set them up in a refuge like they do other animals that have had their habitat over run by "man". We spend all of this money every year on illegal immigrants and various programs to help THEM out - why not help the ancestors of one creatures who has been in America a heckuva lot longer than the illegals? Why not GIVE the horses to people who want to raise and care for them - not to people who would slaughter them.

    No wonder we are a "disposable" society.... makes me sick to think my tax dollars are being used for something as horrible as this...the killing of innocent animals......

  • Posted By: Smed691 @ 07/02/2008 1:50:15 PM

    I agree. This is a terrible article. Horses are no more native here than any other livestock animal. They most definitely were not here during the ice-age. One would think that someone would've reviewed this article before it hit the press. I suppose not in this instance. I know that any other article that I read by Tony Dokoupil will be taken with a grain of salt. These animals may be a symbol of the American West, but the fact of the matter is that they are not a native species and do not belong here in the wild. Best land management practices must be used to control these animals since we have exterpated all of the predators that would normally keep this population under control. You may not like it, but every agency whether public or private has a budget. You have to use the best means of control that fit your budget and gets the job done. Sometimes that means using management practices that are not preferred, but necessary. Just because a non-native animal is a "symbol" and considered "majestic" means nothing in this case since it's non-native. Here's another point for you, how many populations of native species has the mustang poulation hurt due to its habits over the years? Native animals should always take priority over non-natives. Those animals actually belong here.

  • Posted By: CAPITOLofTEXAS @ 07/02/2008 1:49:59 PM

    How can you trust someone who cannot even get there facts straight in the first sentence. Horses came from Europe (originally from the Ukraine). How much does he even know about this topic? Just another over sensationalizing writer.

  • Posted By: mhook @ 07/02/2008 1:27:30 PM

    What money do they use toward the horses? In counting them perhaps? Would it be possible to put them into protected areas, possibly with the buffalo in South Dakota? Or in Wyoming? I think they would THRIVE in those areas. We don't want to let the population of our mustangs diminish, we want them to grow. If it really does represent "us" then why bring "our" numbers down?? That doesn't make sense.

    • Posted By: goodgunguy @ 07/02/2008 1:39:40 PM

      I'm sure the buffalo in South Dakota would love to compete with wild horses for forage on the range, especially if it gets really dry. Look up the term "carrying capacity" to find out how many animals can survive on any given piece of land. If you think it is so easy to round them up and drop them off, let's drop them off on your land, I'v sure they would THRIVE there and you could see them every day, the image of American freedom. Watch out for the piles of poop.

      • Posted By: kwhorseluver @ 07/02/2008 1:49:07 PM

        gun guy, keep it up we'll get them! first idiots on newsweek... then the world! muh ha ha ha haaa!

  • Posted By: zues109 @ 07/02/2008 1:48:38 PM

    This is so governement over management, some pencile head thinks he can manage things because that's what he learned in school, well guess what school is not the only learning place, lets try history.
    This country has managed so much that is why we are in the mess we have right now. LEAVE THE HORSES ALONE.
    They have been here for hundreds of years and that's what has keep nature inline, When you start taking
    away what has been put here for a reason you loss more than you can ever know.
    Why dont we take get rid of anything wild that someone who thinks management is the way to go and see what happens than. Our governement has over managed stop it leave what you dont know alone

  • Posted By: bushisretarded @ 07/02/2008 1:48:37 PM

    As usual, George Bush Jr. is showing America just how retarded he is.

  • Posted By: caholland @ 07/02/2008 12:45:56 PM

    Why can't they sell them or auction them off or give them away for God's sake. The way its going with the price of gas, we may need them in lieu of the automobile soon.

    • Posted By: samtoi @ 07/02/2008 1:47:53 PM

      Since the slaughter houses were closed many horses are facing more horrible ends. They are starving to death.Auction prices have fallen because many cannot feed the horses they own. Some are just being abandoned at auctions when they don't sell. One of our horses is a rescue.The mustang is not a native species and they are taking food from the native species. Save thiose animals.For much of the time wild horses lived on the land , the West was not having the drought that it is now. The BLM has tried to adopt many of them for years. They used to be killed for dog food in the 60's. My compassion is for the thousands of domestic horses that are suffering

  • Posted By: jsb123 @ 07/02/2008 1:46:50 PM

    The funny thing is that only about 3% of the cattle that graze the public lands is actually used in American food chain. The rest is shipped other places in the world. We don't even eat more than most of the meat grazed on the public lands. Americans eat used up dairy cows! Glad I don't eat it any more.

  • Posted By: kwhorseluver @ 07/02/2008 1:46:11 PM

    http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/wild_horse_and_burro.html
    look around here

  • Posted By: jfreeman50 @ 07/02/2008 1:42:07 PM

    Why shoot one of Gods creatures?? Name the person that suggested this stupid idea and then shoot him/her? Let the horese run free. Isn't this the land of the free or NOT???

    JFreeman from SC

    • Posted By: kwhorseluver @ 07/02/2008 1:45:48 PM

      your not a hunter are you?

  • Posted By: scooterthecat @ 07/02/2008 1:44:38 PM

    Euthanize BLM bosses, not the mustangs. These horses are a living link to our heritage and deserve our protection. More than can be said for our politicians. BLM worried about budget cuts? Cut their own salaries and perks. While they're at it, they can get rid of all of the deadwood in their department.

  • Posted By: denimc @ 07/02/2008 1:43:15 PM

    I grew up on a ranch in Elko County, Nevada. Back in the late 50's my father bought 6 Mustangs that were slated to be slaughtered for dog food. He gave the smaller horses to my brother and I; we tamed them and really came to adore our small horses. It never fails to boggle my mind the audacity of the BLM. Why do they think they have the right to kill something as much a part of the West as the Mustangs. Should the BLM be allowed to do this evil deed? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: MJ35 @ 07/02/2008 1:33:34 PM

    THERE WERE ICE AGE HORSES...BUT THEY WENT EXTINCT. HERE'S THE ARTICLE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE SO FOCUSED ON MISSING THE REAL POINT OF THIS REPORT BY GETTING CAUGHT UP IN THE PETTY TECHNICALITIES.
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/0501_060501_ice_age.html

    • Posted By: kwhorseluver @ 07/02/2008 1:43:04 PM

      it's not petty... the nativity of the horse is one of the main arguments. this is because of the damage to the native plants and animals in the ecosystem. noxtious plants are dangerous to native plants and take over areas. they were not native.. you see where we'er all going with this? and the horses did roam b4 the iceage. but then they died. and then they brought them back. and then theres's a whole nother chapter.

  • Posted By: breaktimeg @ 07/02/2008 1:43:00 PM

    Regardless of opinions, I think everyone who posted a comment should visit the website of an exhibit at the American Museum of Natural History. Here's the link http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/horse
    Also, keep in mind that I believe we should preserve the herds of our western states even if they aren't direct descendants of true native horses. Are you all direct descendants of indigenous peoples? Letting the herds roam free is the best control we can offer at this time. Don't round them up; don't sterilize them; don't euthanize the older ones. Nature will run it's course.

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