‘The Wild Horse Is Us’

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  • Posted By: seabee69m @ 07/02/2008 4:22:58 PM

    keep sitting on your hands.. IT's horses now but down the road it will become necessary to thin the population. HOW about them apples.

  • Posted By: katsnjammers @ 07/02/2008 4:22:41 PM

    Lets open them up for hunting season like we do other animals then cattle won't have as much competion for grazing. Horses are like noxious weeds, if they are not managed they spread eveywhere.

  • Posted By: cnchaffin @ 07/02/2008 4:22:37 PM

    Actually yes I have petted a wolf. They can be great. But I am not talking about wolves that have been domesticated to a point. They certainly can fear humans and may not want anything to do with humans- but it is sure easier for them to kill domesticated animals (like sheep, cattle, cats and dogs) than it is to try to stay up in the mountains and kill elk or deer. Also some people have compounded the problem here by feeding deer and elk who come down from the mountains. The wolves just follow them right down. I do NOT want to kill all wolves. I just think that we need to be smarter about "placing" wolf packs (like we have the right to decide where animals should be) because in this case all that happened was they came right back down to where humans are.

    Thank you for being biased and rude to me. I am simply stating my actual true experiences with wolves. I do think they are a beautiful and majestic animal- and I really loved the wolf puppies and grown wolfs I have been around. I am simply saying that I do not want them roaming in my backyard and killing my animals (horses, dogs and cats).

  • Posted By: dremak1@yahoo.com @ 07/02/2008 4:18:40 PM

    I can't not even imagine that this is an option. Leave them alone and if not let someone herd them. Don't kill them. My question is Who and How many of the people who ultimately make this decision own stock in the euthanization corporation they will obviously contract for millions more than it will cost and also you KNOW some of the millionaire rancher/OIL tycoons have "requested" this action. Get rid of the horses no use then to keep the national land so sell it cheap to one of their rancher buddies - you see where I am going with this RIGHT?? THE AMERICAN WAY!!!!

  • Posted By: GeorgeU1951 @ 07/02/2008 4:18:22 PM

    I felt very threatened when I read that the fed gov't was re-introducing grizzly bears and wolves to areas with human populations. I think both beautiful, and would love to watch some on an eco-tour, but the thought of encountering one in the back yard, or having the wife or grandkids encountering one, is sobering. Mustangs I have no problem with, but have to learn something about his issue.

  • Posted By: scomata @ 07/02/2008 4:18:16 PM

    Bush is retarded,

    Then what are you,? Humans trace back to Africa, the Bushmen to be exact. All of our DNA traces back to them., and all the other continents were migrated to by their decendants. This is basic scientific knowledge here.

    No different that all these claims that horses are native, EVEN BY THE AUTHOR!

  • Posted By: shannonmale2008 @ 07/02/2008 4:18:10 PM

    If everyone is so dedicated to saving Americas tradition, then why doesn't everyone band together and ask for slaughter back. Get rid of the surplus of domesticated horses so that there is room for more mustangs to be adopted out into good homes. The removal of slaughter houses has caused a huge surge in unwanted horses with no where to go, and unfortunately the wild mustangs are going to suffer cause there.
    Don't get me wrong, I personally have owned horses my entire life and am establishing my career in the equine industry but, what the government, majority of which have no clue the situation unraveling in the industry, needs to realize that yes PETA got there way to save the horses but, what they don't understand now is that all those horses are now not finding homes, starving, and experiencing painful lives. If only the government would open there eyes and understand. Yes the herd needs to be cut back but, that is only a quick and short fix. Reestablish slaughter and there will be more room for the horses that America calls tradition.

  • Posted By: ol'-farm-boy @ 07/02/2008 4:18:05 PM

    I don't get it. If we hadn't encroched onto the land nesscary to sustain these mustangs, we wouldn't have a problem. But now, will the BLM allowing a farmers cattle to graze on public land, its depleating the food source. We wouldn't want to actually own our own land and grow our own crops, no, we just want to send our cows out and not worry about them until we auction them off to slaughter. I'm a farmer, and its much much cheaper to send the cows up to range than to keep them at home (about 25 cents a day rather than a dollar), unless you own a lot of grazing land, which is what farmers used to do. But the government raised taxes, land prices, fuel costs and reclaimed a lot of land so now, you have to be a millionaire to own that much land. Its a catch 22, if you are good intending farmer, you don't have that kind of money, but if your a millionaire, you send your cows up to range and save money. I wonder why they aren't plucking off the wild cows? Oh yea, they can sell them for food, wild horses are "useless" (please note my sarcasim there) Theres a saying, he who controls the food, controls mankind. This is all the BLM's fault and they should take the responisiblity instead of euthanizing these mustangs. I've lived in Canada too, and although they don't have wild mustangs up there, they used closed the ranges when there is not enough food, they rarley do that anymore and the now the cattle are completley depleating the source for other wild animals. If the BLM did what Canada's ranges used to do, then the mustangs wouldn't be starving. But it would raise havock with the farmers, because they might actualy have to spend some money to keep their cows fed. I'm extremely disapointed in our government. But again, its all about who's in control.

  • Posted By: rehabguy @ 07/02/2008 4:17:40 PM

    I agree With Deanne Stillman. I would rather check a box to preserve the horses than to help finance someone running for President.

  • Posted By: Delilah77 @ 07/02/2008 4:17:37 PM

    Anyone opposed to this should go to the Humane Society website and add your name to the petition to stop this from happening. We are just as responsible for our Government's actions as the politicians themselves, if we do nothing to oppose them. It's our right as Americans and our responsibility. This is what happens when the government is free to do as it wishes without being accountable to its people.

  • Posted By: bushisretarded @ 07/02/2008 4:06:06 PM

    Actually, yes. I'm white and I was born here. Therefore I'm truly a Native American. "Native American's" from the past as we call them really should not be called that because they were here before America was actually America. There have been native peoples on every continent. An example would be that there were natives in places like Australia before it was Australia. Yet we would call anyone from Australia (the country) as native Australian. Catch my drift?

    • Posted By: jazzyarizona @ 07/02/2008 4:16:48 PM

      I'm sorry, your argument is so stupid! I have to get off this dumb site........it's going to spoil my whole day.

    • Posted By: jazzyarizona @ 07/02/2008 4:12:15 PM

      No, I don't catch your drift.......If ALL your ancestors on both sides of your family were born here..(that's a big "if") that gives you 300 to 400 years. For Native Americans/American Indians try 13,000 years. Whites are new to this country, read your history books!

  • Posted By: bushisretarded @ 07/02/2008 4:16:25 PM

    Nobody reads anything.

  • Posted By: PagaNovelty @ 07/02/2008 4:15:45 PM

    Does nobody remember the last time they tried this? Their assumption then was that for every 1 horse they saw there were 3 "hiding". This proposal is just as ridiculous as the old assumptions. If they want to save the land and cut the budget, try cutting down on the human population. There is way too many of us, and we are the ones destroying this planet - not the mustangs.

  • Posted By: renoflyguy @ 07/02/2008 4:15:35 PM

    Desert Donkey is appropriately named, don't you think? Although there is nothing more sad than a straving mare with her colt's ribs showing (I've seen this here in Nevada), there is adequate rangeland for these herds if the expansive land is properly managed without preference to the ranchers. Funny how the M in BLM stands for Management! If we can postpone this disasterous crime until January 20, we'll have an administration lead by a young man with more than a 3-digit IQ, unlike many here who think bleeding heart compassion for fellow creatures is a BAD thing.

  • Posted By: shodanhalo @ 07/02/2008 4:15:32 PM

    Of course they should NOT control herd population in this way. Competition for food will naturally control the population, as it does in all natural systems. Wild animals should be able to find their own food, and not have their diet supplemented by humans in most cases. The proper, but likely most arguable, course of action would be to induce controls on cattle populations; Americans need to cut down on their meat intake as it is. Cut back on cattle herds responsibly, and wild horses will have sufficient resources to feed themselves, while leveling-off their population.

  • Posted By: renoflyguy @ 07/02/2008 4:14:31 PM

    Desert Donkey is appropriately named, don't you think? Although there is nothing more sad than a straving mare with her colt's ribs showing (I've seen this here in Nevada), there is adequate rangeland for these herds if the expansive land is properly managed without preference to the ranchers. Funny how the M in BLM stands for Management! If we can postpone this disasterous crime until January 20, we'll have an administration lead by a young man with more than a 3-digit IQ, unlike many here who think bleeding heart compassion for fellow creatures is a BAD thing.

  • Posted By: Lakeman29 @ 07/02/2008 4:14:15 PM

    I don't think ANYONE is saying exterminate the entire population of all wild horses. There is a need to manage their population for the good of the horses, and MAN (oops, there I go again looking out for the welfare of man...). Yes, Democrats make ALL THEIR decsions on their FEELINGS, Damn the facts, RESULTS or (unitended) consequences... Save the planet, wipe out MAN (or at the least America)!!!!

  • Posted By: flyinghippo @ 07/02/2008 4:14:14 PM

    Just as a correction Mustangs did not survive the ice age. These are not native animals. They were imported just like gypsy moths and Japanese beetles. They are not even wild animals they are feral - domestic species left to fend for themselves. Think of the Mustang as an invasive exotic and it kinda loses the romance, eh? But I do not think they should be killed and certainly not slaughtered. They should be managed more carefully to limit the population. I am a horse person and I think those horses would be happier in a domestic situation. My horse would be lost without his barn, vaccinations, fly spray, deworming, farrier, and daily grooming. If you (being who ever) wants to keep them for historic or romance value they need to be managed that way. Like a feral cat population, or like the horses on Chincoteague. I know the BLM closed a facility in PA where mustangs were put up for adoption, that seems counter productive. Personally I would rather the western open range be left in a truly naturally state: no horses and no cows but we all know that ain't gonna happen.

  • Posted By: Real American Patriot @ 07/02/2008 4:13:44 PM

    The Deanne Stillman states it correctly, that the ranchers' stock is more of a taxation on the land than the wild horses. The ranchers are also the problem with nature's way of handling wildlife populations. The ranchers continue to kill off any predator that harms their stock, even though the ranchers are invading wildlife territory. Banning horse slaughter did not cause this, spreading of civilization did. Taking away federal lands is causing this. Deanne Stillman blames the Bush Administration, but every educated person knows that Congress is not the Bush Administration. Congress is run by the Democratic Party at this time. America is so giving to other countries, but not to our own. We need to wake up and take care of our own country before even think about helping other countries. People call themselves patriots, but have no willingness to help our country, only other countries. It is time to wake up and see what is happening in America.

  • Posted By: imaford @ 07/02/2008 3:55:23 PM

    They better leave well enough alone. With the steady rise in fuel prices, we are probably going to ride these horses again.

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