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  • Posted By: jenxyz78 @ 07/04/2008 2:34:26 AM

    I am voting democratic after a lifetime of being a GOP loyalist . I see nothing in Mccain that shows he takes the health care nightmare seriously . ( I am living it ) . While the economy was spiralling downward the Republican debates pictured a party of candidates who wanted to pretend things are not bad at all. That is an insult to those of us with health care problems, income loss , and higher utilities and food bills .
    Why should I give a vote to a party that strongly resembles the Hoover Republicans my grandmother reviled . I used to think she hated the republicans because she was uneducated . NOW , I read about the hOOVER administration and marvel at how similar the Republicans and neoconservatives seem to Hoover .

    There are things that Bush could have done , that other Republican presidents have resorted to in the past , like : sending illegals home en masse ( Eisenhower) , having the FTC investigate the oil companies for gouging ( Roosevelt ) and Freezing prices ( Nixon ) .

    The indifference to hardship that is being lived out on Main Street will sink the party , just as Hoover's indifference with the orchestra at Whitehouse meals of seven courses ( while the average folks were
    struggling ) caused the domocrats to rise to power and reign for years .

    There is no defense for a president not CARING . There is NO optimism unless a leader rises up ( like FDR or Lincoln ) and implements specific plans to attack the problems that gnaw at us head on. Dancing around the dead horse in the living room does not win the trust and confidence of the American people , especially when they face the stench each day . Ultimately a president and his team must genuinely care
    about the little people , who have been forgotten for eight years by those who are economically isolated from the hardship because they are fortunate to be on a higher rung of the economic ladder .

    It will be a cold day in Hell before I ever vote for a Republican agin. Willie Marie Leggett , my grandmother who raised me with a fifth grade education , would be proud . She may have been uneducated , but she was RIGHT !

    • Posted By: ssbn777 @ 07/04/2008 6:59:15 AM

      The biggest problem with the Dems, however, is that they have become so ideologically liberal, thet the have sacrificed the interests of the American worker in favor of foreign multiculturalism and pluralism, and care more about political correctness and the pleasing of ethnocentric minorities than the rest of us. This translates into them fighting tooth and nail for Amnesty, otensibly to gain the Latino vote, and their endless support of wasteful government handouts such as welfare, so they can maintain the black demographic. Say what you want about that, but it's true. We've been sold out by both political parties; Repubs to the oil and corporate giants, and Dems to ethnocentric special interests, enabling the poor at the expense of everybody else. Either way we go, we're screwed, it seems....

  • Posted By: funkdome @ 07/04/2008 6:52:59 AM

    "I wish I could say that the American elites here???people with money, connections or world-class expertise, or in many cases all three???were brimming with optimism. But they aren't, which means that they are not much different from you and me."

    Speak for yourself Howard. Plenty of us are brimming with optimism. Stop confusing the beliefs of "elites" as reality. Or better yet, stop hyping gloom to get your candidate elected.

  • Posted By: WilsonP @ 07/04/2008 6:24:19 AM

    I am an avid reader of history and it is clear through the history of our nation or major civilizations that transformations many times require a visionary. Without going into a hisory lecture, think of the great leaps we made in the last century, they coincide with men of thought and ideas at the head of the nations, think Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy. Aside from these men, only Reagan comes close because he right or wrong pursued policies that doomed the Soviet Union. It may not be a generational leap forward on the same level as the other three, but can you imagine if today the "Evil Empire" existed along with a post 9-11 world? We would have WWIII for sure.

    In this day and age as in everyday and age we have issues and we elect Presidents to fix the symptoms, we only truly look for more in a President when there are so many symptoms we need someone who will fix the bigger problem not just put go around fixing issues as they are now or come about in the near future.

    My point here is we are at another crossroads where we can choose to make a leap with someone conducive to ideas even if they are not his own and who possess an imagination to put it all together into a vision for America. Who among the 2 candidates do you honestly think has a chance of delivering that to America? To me, an independent, Obama can be that person, no one can guarantee it, I am not going by soaring speaches or charisma, but objectively I see him able to bring that to us. I certainly cannot see a 30 year veteran of the political system who must have had a ton of chances to deliver the "transcendental" changes he now claims to embrace, be it climate change or getting us off our dependence on foreign oil or for that matter proposing any one bill to do with the economy or economic benefit for us the public. I know his track record indicates ZERO accomplishments. I am very happy with his signature efforts at campaign finance reform, but that does not put food on my table, I am happy he has been a good senator, but we need a leader of a nation in transition. Can anyone tell me otherwise? He has had 30 years, can you seriously tell me his record is all that is achieveable in that time?

    Obama may not be it in the end, no one elected FDR or Teddy with a guarantee, the people took a chance based on the situation needing it, it worked, and we are lucky for it. Can you forgive yourself McCain and a few years later see that we have more band-aids but no cure? I DO NOT want to elect just another President to join the pantheon of so many other we have forgotten about. For me its a decision between somehow overcoming today only to have issues a few years later, versus an actual future of promise. You should decide for yourself based on your prioritires.

  • Posted By: llrine1 @ 07/04/2008 6:12:42 AM

    this country is more messed up than EVER.wait ten years ,Amerixa will no longer be the great.....In bad times past you had a whole different type of peopple that ereall Loved asand cared about this mess we call America...............You haven't see nothing yet people wise up or lose your country.

  • Posted By: NickKnight1944 @ 07/04/2008 4:02:49 AM

    You got it right, jenxyz78. You said it just the way it has to be said. These Republikans are exactly like Calvin Cooledge (Mr. Deregulation of the 1920's) and Herbert Hoover. Actually, the Republican Party is the FATHER OF LIES! It has been one big lie since Reagan took power in 1981. He eschewed "piling debt upon debt for the convenience of the present to the deteriment of the future" (1st inagural address) and what did he and Daddy Bush do? Ran the national debt up to $3Trill (it's >$9Trill now, thanks to Dubya and his cohorts), gave us the S&L crisis of the '80's, leveraged buy-outs which eviscerated good companies, crook Keating, Junk Bond Milken, jobs oversees. After the S&L's what are we doing with the subprime crisis? It's the same old same old. Cast these followers of the Left Hand Path down into the bottomless pit with their master, Satan and his angels! Your Grandmother was so, so right!

  • Posted By: a26tford @ 07/04/2008 3:54:54 AM

    There is nothing like a crisis to unify the American people. Our country has been at it's best when faced with crisis. From the Revolutionary War to the widespread, albiet temporary display of patriotism after the 9-11 attacks we have pulled together as a nation when in crisis. It seems however that we are too easily distracted by our own freedom to understand what is required to preserve it. As a whole Americans, the people of humanity for that matter, are generally concerned with their closest interests first. Security and comfort for our families and those dear to us. We spend our lives pursuing goals to reach that end. And now, as critical issues draw our attention to the larger picture, we blame our government for it's shortcomings and for the inevitable crisis we are sure to face. Before we point the blame at individuals in government we should accept that they have been doing just as we do. Concerning themselves with their closest interests first. And as the fiber of America unravels, we can only hope that the looming crisis will help us once again refocus as a nation.

  • Posted By: hulo5 @ 07/04/2008 12:30:25 AM

    Can we not do both, increase our domestic energy supply, while giving more tax breaks for solar, wind, and nuclear. Congress needs to get off their collective asses and start thinking about main street rather than wall street. Talking about religious extremists, the liberals have their own extremists that think that high gas prices are a great idea to go green! What a great idea.........middle class and lower class folks will not be able to pay for gas to go to work, We will all be sitting at home looking at the very clear blue sky with no place to go

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 07/03/2008 11:56:07 PM

    The problem is so great and the options so limited I doubt the economy will ever recover to the point middle America has seen in the past, simply because the middle class is disappearing and may never recover.

    The whole point of globlisation is to put American workers on the same economic level as the workers of all other counties, China and India included.and it has been said it now cannot be stopped.
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    The trickle down economics introduced by Regan and pursued by the Bush administration and touted by McCain (now called supply side economics) is in and of itself very shortsided, in a consumer driven economy it is unwise to kill off the consumer.or even reduce the discretionary income by wage cuts and periodic unemployement and of course inflation has a profound effect.
    Yet that is exactly what has happened. and the Bush/Cheny Co can't figure out why the consumers are not consuming
    It worked fine as long as Americans were the suppliers but that in now behind us, greed and the shortsighted view held by these folks has brought America to it's knees.

  • Posted By: Lalenya @ 07/03/2008 10:05:45 PM

    Anent the comment by "thehappyamerican", I am very tired of the right-wingers who claim to be persecuted and vilified, when these same right-wingers think nothing of persecuting and vilifying liberals (which, btw, is not, and should not be, a dirty word). Can't we come to an agreement in this country that respect and good stewardship of our environment (the only Earth we've got), tolerance for those who hold different religious views, compassion for those who (often through no fault of their own) have fallen on hard times, and sensible (firm but nonbelligerent) foreign policy all help our country and make it great?

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/03/2008 8:00:47 PM

    Sure not a gathering of the elite in this blog.

  • Posted By: thehourislate @ 07/03/2008 1:13:08 PM

    America needs solutions...period. All this money that keeps getting allocated to numerous B.S. programs, the war, etc. Should be poured firstly into energy solutions. AND OIL/GAS is NOT a solution to our energy crisis!!

    It is true that with energy alternatives certain big businesses will not make as much money, however, with the economy in the downward spiral it is in now, they will not be making ANY money off of America if it continues to go downhill.

    • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 07/03/2008 2:47:18 PM

      There is no alternative fuel or energy in the wings ready to come out. That's a Little Green Man's promise and the Little Green Man strangely insists that oil has to be completely out of the way before he comes out!
      Another version is that big oil has to be strangled to "force" a situation for the little Green man to come out.
      Another myth is that the little Green mans' energy will be much cheaper to the consumer. And undesirable to Big Industry as a profit source.
      When the little Green man's low-cost enviro-friendly lubricant comes out on the market for bicycle chains, wheel bearings,and for sewing machines THEN is when we will know it's real! Not a day sooner!
      The Little Green Man is going to have to convince me and the country threw small practical miracles before the big ones,(keeping the machinery running of a continental nation.).
      Come on Little Green Man! Can't you give us something Greener and more cost effective than a can of WD 40?That works? Or just top the can of 3 in 1 oil?
      Until you do, Little Green Man, I'm not counting on you for anything! I AM going to oil my car. Boat and trailor,
      Gun and lawn mower! And kids toys!
      Maybe a shot of WD 40 into the workings of the Congress is what we need . They've pointed their fingers elsewhere enough!

      • Posted By: eternity875 @ 07/03/2008 4:56:23 PM

        good post happy american...I'm with you on that one...a good housecleaning in Congress ought to do the trick...the Dems made big promises in 2006 and haven't done a thing except make a bigger mess and refuse to work on energy.

        • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 07/03/2008 7:33:21 PM

          Thanx,and i fear that as a practical matter we won't see much house cleaning until 2010 BUT what we can do today and this week is Email those people in the Congress on both sides, and insist they quit screwing around and playing the blame game! It's a Lame Game!

  • Posted By: paulte @ 07/03/2008 6:26:59 PM

    We ain't seen nothing yet! If Obama actually wins, the liberal media will celebrate but Wall Street will tank. The economy will go into a free fall. It will be Jimmy Carter all over again but worse. Obama is a real Liberal. People forget that Bill Clinton was a moderate Democrat. That is why the economy didn't fare too badly under him. Residual racism will rear its ugly head in America and either Obam or his wife will be assassinated! That is the future folks!

  • Posted By: vakosh @ 07/03/2008 5:51:56 PM

    Yep, by the time either of them step foot on the White House steps the war will be over, it will be the economy and Obama will lose.

  • Posted By: pusscat @ 07/03/2008 5:32:02 PM

    The general mood lately on these boards is that American has seen it's best days. Will we be owned by China, Russia, or OPEC by 2015?
    The middle class is slowly being phased out- to the poor side- so I have to go with Democrats- I'm going to need those food stamps. ;-)
    I don't think either candidate has the power to fix this. Our Senate and House are too busy arguing over their 'earmarks' to get ANYTHING done.
    Phase out the 'earmarks', STOP the lobbyists, and if there is a conflict of interest, (Bush and his affair with Exxon) SHUT THEM DOWN.
    That's the only way anything will change.

  • Posted By: just jerry @ 07/03/2008 4:05:19 PM

    Daunting tasks that need someone who knows how to be independent enough to work well with both political parties. And, we need someone with non-partisan experience in Washington DC who is able to stand up even to his own party if need be to do what is needed for the nation. I wonder is there anyone with that kind of experience? Some who has more than mere words to offer.

    • Posted By: eternity875 @ 07/03/2008 5:07:00 PM

      I just couldn't agree with you more, JJ...it is a huge task and will requre all you mention and more. It will also require a revamping of Congress to bring them more in line with the "will of the people" and less in line with the will of the moneychangers.

  • Posted By: alankent64 @ 07/03/2008 3:27:03 PM

    the world econmoy is in a train wreck in slow motion i just hope russia and brazil come up WITH SOME HUGE oil and natrual gas developments.
    in the mean time america needs to build INFRASTRUCTURE like every city needs trams sub ways and intra city trains run on electric power hydro and wind and solar are the cleanest so go for that.....
    the car companies can make the rail system cars and component structures and the local governments can float everything on bond issues ...its the only way out of oil dependency for transport of goods and people.

    • Posted By: eternity875 @ 07/03/2008 5:04:28 PM

      What you're talking about may work back east where cities are closer together and people practically live on top of each other...what about the west? Do you propose we have subways and trams in cities of 5-10K people? What size city will be required to implement these? How much will the cities have to pay and how much will the federal government pay for requiring this? What if the local governments try to "float" all these costs on bond issues and they fail? Will the feds come in and force something down the throats of the unwilling citizens? Do you start to see why this will be come a huge mess if the feds step in and try to push things on the voting population?

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/03/2008 1:06:02 PM

    News & Notes --- You make some great points. When the smoke clears, the bias stops, and reality slaps us in the azz, these are the issues we are faced with. I do agree that McCain and Obama may not have been the best two choices (that's an endless debate). But, there is no doubt in my mind that Obama has the support, charisma, strength, and respect to at least bring us closer to the future that you are alluding to here.

    Being as open-minded as a human-being can honestly be, I absolutely DO NOT believe that McCain has the MAJORITY of our nation's population's best interest at heart.

    What a dillema our country is in.......China is licking it's chops, no matter who gets elected.

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