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  • Posted By: missbaysdaddy @ 07/05/2008 11:02:37 PM

    My father went the pre-arranged route three years before he died. I was with him at the time he made the final arrangements for both himself and my mother who was in a nursing home with someone else taking care of her needs since she was unable to take care of herself. That was one of the best things my father ever did and it removed the burden of wondering the rest of your life if we did it the way he would have wanted it done. My father was very much a take charge man among men. He did it his way and my sister and I will forever be greatful. I do not think my family could have done a home funeral, some things are better left to the experts. When a loved one passes on most of us are in no mental state of mind to take care of the final arrangements. I do think the funeral industry needs a watchdog group looking over their shoulder to make sure they are not charging more than a fair amount for their services. As for my wife and I we are thinking about cremation since we have no children or grand children that would want to come to a grave site. If you have not seen the movie "The Bucket List" watch it, great movie and it will give you something to think about.

  • Posted By: Joshua Slocum @ 07/05/2008 10:57:40 PM

    I apologize for the insertion of question marks where there ought to be apostrophes. Apparently Newsweek's site has some problems when one cuts and pastes from a MS Word document.

  • Posted By: Joshua Slocum @ 07/05/2008 10:52:28 PM


    allergictostupid wrote:

    ???Comment: Mr. Slocum,

    For goodness sakes you have no idea how many people have been found dead and decomposing. You are a loon. Tell me how would feel if you had to clean your son or daughters body after being ran over by a tractor? There's nothing left. They are flat...literally. You tell me you would pick up their body and clean up waht was left of it and bury him or her without losing your mind???????????????????


    Oh honestly. I can???t figure out what you???re so upset about, but it???s clearly not about any of the things funeral consumer advocates have said. No one has suggested that families would want to scrape their loved ones??? bodies off the road after a gruesome accident. Where did you get this idea? If you???d actually read the article, and visit some of the Web sites we???ve suggested, I think you???d see that you???re railing against something none of us have ever said. Families that care for their own dead at home are not ???loons??? - they???re ordinary people from every walk of life who are returning to a tradition that even your American ancestors participated in. There???s no need to hyper-ventilate about this; no one is suggesting any of the macabre things you???re writing about.


    Josh Slocum
    Executive Director
    FCA

  • Posted By: mallieb @ 07/05/2008 8:14:11 PM

    Yes better educations will eliminate high cost. However, when a funeral is prepaid and preplanned and the cost rise, The family must pay the difference. That's just fair business in any business. For example my great aunt paid for her funeral 60 years in advance. Now, is it fair for the Funeral Director to absorb the increase? No, consumers must be knowledgeable and fair.

    • Posted By: rcd11blue @ 07/05/2008 9:45:20 PM

      The family DOES NOT pay the differnce. You need to have a knowledge of the preneed industry BEFORE you make comments.

      • Posted By: savetheearth09 @ 07/05/2008 10:51:34 PM

        The family only pays the difference if the prepaid funeral is Guaranteed. Meaning, the funeral home is guaranteeing that the funeral is paid in full for the future funeral. Guranteeing is a sketchy idea. As always, buyer beware

    • Posted By: remajohn @ 07/05/2008 9:30:07 PM

      You are wrong! The Funeral Director had your Great Aunts money for 60 years and if he had invested as he should have he would have two or three times the current cost. Believe me when I say they never lose anything, I have buried all of my family and am just waiting my turn next.

    • Posted By: widowjones @ 07/05/2008 8:58:39 PM

      yes it is fair to expect to get what you paid for. They should not take upfront money as pre pay if they do not wish to shoulder the cost to hold some ones money for 60 years has got to net you some intrest at the bank and match that by 1,000. who have done so... Yes they should fulfll thier oblagations that the reason someone pays in advance for so thier kids or grandkids wont have to try to pull moneys out of their arsses while greaving

    • Posted By: davsgirl @ 07/05/2008 8:57:38 PM

      That means that the funeral director has your great aunts money for 60 years. Put into an interest bearing account, I think that the interest earned would be enough to cover the inflated costs.

  • Posted By: craftsman_50 @ 07/05/2008 7:52:03 PM

    I noticed most post here are by people in the bussiness.Well I was shocked when my father and sister died just months apart.The family didn't have enough money to pay cash for the $10,000.00 funneral .Their budget deal.But planning for the future Dad had a $100 thousand life insurance policy.The funeral home charged 5% of the total amount of the policy for us to use it to bury him.That was $5,000.00 the funeral home got for "fronting us $2,000.00 " for the part of the cost we did not have on hand.Then when my sister died a couple months later ,They where very upset that we could pay cash for her funneral and they could not get tier 5% of here life policy.

    • Posted By: rcd11blue @ 07/05/2008 9:57:14 PM

      5% of $2000 is a hundred bucks! You were fronted the full amount of the policy. You could have waited the usual 90 plus days for the insurance company to pay on the policy. Don't slam the funeral home, they have bills to pay too. Will a car dealership let you drive off the lot with a new car and you send them a check 90 days later? I don't think so. You didn't mention that your family recieved the entire amount of the policy (100K) in a very short of amount of time, similar to a rapid refund on income tax refunds.

      • Posted By: craftsman_50 @ 07/05/2008 10:51:18 PM

        Maybe you should learn to read!The funeral home wanted the whole 10 grand paid up front or no funeral!We had 8 grand on hand.That wasn't good enough.It had to be the full amount.For them to use the life insurance as collareral for the 2 grand balance they said it was company policy to charge 5% of the total amount of the policy.= 5 grand.We had to sign the policy over to them.After 90 days we got our money in the form of a check from them minus the 7 grand.THE 2 GRAND OWED ON THE FUNERAL AND 5 GRAND CUSTOMERY CHARGE ON LIFE POLICY.
        Go put yourself in a coffin of your own morron, if you can afford one.

  • Posted By: sulldog30 @ 07/05/2008 8:15:24 PM

    Our family owned a funeral business for 100 years. We were purchased by SCI 11 years ago. Since then prices have tripled and service has suffered. The large corporations are the reason why prices are so high. Locally owned funeral homes police themselves with prices. Large corporations with large market shares do not care! My Grandmother would be disgusted at what is going on in the funeral industry. If anyone in upper SCI management sees this, you will know who I am! Steve S.

    • Posted By: allergictostupid @ 07/05/2008 10:27:01 PM

      y did you sell out? MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: savetheearth09 @ 07/05/2008 10:49:58 PM

        Owning a funeral home means being on call for work 24-7 365 days a year. You NEVER get a break. Imagine your work calling you at 1 a.m. 3 nights in a row to come into work and you HAVE to go in? How much would you want to make for living a life like that? For missing out on your children's birthdays, your friend's weddings, family Christmas's?

    • Posted By: rcd11blue @ 07/05/2008 9:42:42 PM

      How much was a gallon of gas, milk or a loaf of bread 11 years ago? Also, if your "Family Owned for 100 years" that your grandmother and father built was important to you, why did your family sell to SCI instead of continuing the family tradition of serving families? $$$$$ would be my guess.

  • Posted By: tymerazor @ 07/05/2008 10:37:35 PM

    Who cares about a dead body. If it was legal and someone close to me died I'd go pick up the body, wherever it was, in whatever condition it was in, burn it, and spread the ashes around a growing tree. Now, that's Green folks.

  • Posted By: allergictostupid @ 07/05/2008 10:32:06 PM

    y r these companies selling out to these corps? MONEY.

  • Posted By: bobdavis@ont.com @ 07/05/2008 10:27:24 PM

    Google "SCI"

  • Posted By: allergictostupid @ 07/05/2008 10:23:13 PM

    Mr. Slocum,

    For goodness sakes you have no idea how many people have been found dead and decomposing. You are a loon. Tell me how would feel if you had to clean your son or daughters body after being ran over by a tractor? There's nothing left. They are flat...literally. You tell me you would pick up their body and clean up waht was left of it and bury him or her without losing your mind????????????????

  • Posted By: bobdavis@ont.com @ 07/05/2008 10:21:05 PM

    If you really want to read what's going on Google "Funeralgate" and follow all the links. You WILL be shocked.

  • Posted By: allergictostupid @ 07/05/2008 10:11:13 PM

    Or here's one...you get a call that your son or daughter has been killed in a car accident and you need to pick their body up.
    You get there...the steering wheel has crushed their chest and theleft side of their face is is now on their right. Okay, you are going pick them up and hurl them into the ground? Yeah. Sure. I don't work for a funeral co but some of this stuf is beyond stupid.

  • Posted By: johnrupert @ 07/05/2008 9:56:17 PM

    I would reserve the casket for "Newsweek."

  • Posted By: allergictostupid @ 07/05/2008 9:44:43 PM

    Oh God here we go. WHo picks up grandma from the hospital? Who picks up the a dead son or daughter killed in a car accident? Where do they put them? Where? How about you pick them up-your family member, Just put a sheet over your car seats cause sometimes it gets bloody and messy. What killed them? Was it foul play? Eh? Who knows? We can't be having all that forensics stuff. Then you can put grandma or little Bobby in a large paper box and bury them in your backyard.

    • Posted By: rcd11blue @ 07/05/2008 10:01:42 PM

      Oh, how I agree!! Who would pick up Great grandmother at the nursing home after she has been in a fetal positon for over a year? Or someone who died of an infectious disease? Or a car accident? This whole article is from a make the earth green fairytale! Not a deaths are peaceful folks!

  • Posted By: allergictostupid @ 07/05/2008 9:58:48 PM

    And and oh yeah, please remember rubber gloves so as to keep any Hepatitis from spreading and getting any fluids or goo on you.
    Hey why even have the ambulance come. Dead is dead. You can wrap them in a natural cotton sheet and oh,no..no...just leave them natural and let nature take care of your loved-ones body. Fooey on all this glitz and glam of those silly caskets as a final farewell and so what they look ten times bigger than when they were alive and smell...that's natural.
    Well, what killed them? HEy who cares...death is natural. Right?

  • Posted By: johnrupert @ 07/05/2008 9:55:47 PM

    I would reserve the casket for "Newsweek."

  • Posted By: brucebessell @ 07/05/2008 9:43:22 PM

    I "planted" many papier-mache coffins in pine rough boxes while in high school in the 60's. Isn't that green enough? My Dad was caretaker of the cemetery.

  • Posted By: sulldog30 @ 07/05/2008 8:21:08 PM

    My family sold to SCI 11 years ago. Since then prices have tripled and service has suffered. Families that use to patronize our home are now seeking services at less expensive homes. My grandmother would be outraged to see this god rest her soul! Someone in SCI's corporate office will know who I am! I challenge you to call to discuss! what is going on is a disgrace to what my grandmother and father built! Steve S.

    • Posted By: rcd11blue @ 07/05/2008 9:36:37 PM

      How much was a gallon of gas 11 years ago? How about a loaf of bread or a gallon of gas? Why did your family sell out to SCI in the first place? Why didn't you take over "What your Grandmother and FAther built"?

  • Posted By: Love to live @ 07/05/2008 9:10:23 PM

    Hear Hear put me in a box Frigerator size is fine and bury me in a good old manure pile thank you very much. The cheaper the better i say my wife will need the money for other things.

  • Posted By: Dizzo @ 07/05/2008 7:02:36 PM

    WHAT IS FCA DOING TO PRESERVE THE DECEASED FROM DECAY ?

    Many people hope and believe that a Medical Resurrection of the Dead Body is Possible.

    Reviving dead tissue and cells has already happened. In Dec 2007 a dead baby rat heart was revived to beat again with stem cells , soon this porcess maybe used to revive deceased Human Beings.

    FCA doesn't appear to be trying to save anyone anything , why else would the want cheap caskets that will fail to protected our deceased family anf friends from decay ?

    I don't care if FCA members rot in the grave but as for me and my family I hope for the best and that is Cryonic Preservation , even if it is being frozen after death in Natural Ice Glaciers and covered in wax protection.

    Best Wishes

    Dizzo

    • Posted By: davsgirl @ 07/05/2008 9:09:44 PM

      I really think you have watched too many sci-fi movies. There is this thing called BRAIN which no matter how cold you get it, will not survive without a beating heart and oxygen. Ever see a piece of meat with freezer burn? Is that what you really want? Say by some miracle, they happen to revive you 100 years from now. Why would you want to be alive when everyone and everything you have know is Long gone?
      Personally, my viable organs will be donated, and the rest cremated. My ashes will be added to those of my cremated pets and We will be scattered together.

      Davsgirl

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