Obama's challenge: getting Democratic secularists on board.
Comment: Yeah judgment like voting NO for the NEW GI BILL, Hey Mr. McCain who are we suposed to be killing in Iraq, sunni or shia? What's a Kurd? And even though the US weapons inspectors said there were NO weapons, expolsives, or ammunition from Iran, and the latest NIE said Iran had backed away from uranium enrichment...why are you deterimined to take this country into another, a third war? Is it because of your "experience" and "Judgment"?
Comment: OMG Look at what CornHolyO posted...it's amazing...
Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/11/2008 21:56:41
Comment: 4+ a gallon. If Israel bombs Iran US gets involved, McBushes wet dream, except we have NO military to support a third war, more of our children die, which if fine with McCain as he does not support them anyway oh yeah, soon 7-8/gallon.
McCain-Killing and Drilling now
"Handsome"-kNOws it will have no immediate effect on prices and infact would take years and caot billions to even get to, cost passed on to the US in dollars on the gallon, and if there ever was oil found, NO promise from any of the US oil folks to NEVER RAISE PRICES AGAIN ABOVE 1$ a gal.
McCain-Nucular Energy Plants Now but also thinks that NE plants have root and grow in the ground
"Handsome"- tells George Bush the word is NUCLEAR...
McCain-Clean Coal Energy Now, thinks this means polishing all the little pieces of coal, insists this would be a great job for illegals.
"Handsom"-NO problem with it at all, unless you ask Sean Hannity.
McCain-Shale Oil Now, thinks that Shale is another faction of epople from Iraq, sunni Shia, Shale, and "What the hell is a Kurd."
"Handsome"-NO problem here either, wow he's on the ball.
McCain-Independent from Middle East Oil or stay in Iraq for 100 yrs? What ever comes first
Hussein-kNOws, they are out of oil in Saudi in 2015, let them dry up and blow away. along with the oil a$$es here.
McCain-American Hero, crashed 5 fighters before being shot down, cried "my daddy is an admiral" when he was caught, willingly did 32 propagnada films for the VC, earning the nickname ":Song Bird" (google it)because as soon as he was caught he started singing for the enemy, lied to America's POWs when he said he wouild never politicize his status as a "pow", and then never stopped doing it. Turned his back on our troops on the recent GI Bill Vote, where he no showed and no voted because he was to afraid to face the music and just vote against it...my hero.
Hussein-Not only out of power but DEAD and even though that was our "mission" we are still in Iraq and our children are still sying,
NOTHINGLIKEOBAMA!!!
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WOW! What a statement, good for you ConrHolyO, way to go...glad to see you come around
Comment: OhI love the copy and paste game...here we go ;)
Ok now lets have a look at thiese words:
Therefore, a TRUE Christian would hold Christian morals in high regard.
That means:
Abortion = murder. Period. so Murder is sin, so how do you defend McCain on his deisre to murder more people, thousands mor, not just Americans, but foreigners too, as the bible says, ALL life is sacred, not just American life ;)
Gay marriage = sin. Period. I love this one. go to YouTube and search McCain v. McCain, you can see that if the wind blows that way, he supports "gay marriage"and then only a short 11minutes later, he does not, so is he for it, or a liar?
Racism = Sin. Period. Understand that racism is not just a WHITE and BLACK issue, In McCain's case it very much a brown and yellow issue. The man can not grasp the difference between Sunni and Shia, perriod. He does not even know who he wants to kill in Iraq, and when asked about Kurds his response was "WHAT THE HELL IS A KURD?!"
Lieing = sin. Period. So what would you call standing before a group of American POWs and swearing if they voted for him he would "NEVER" use his status as a "POW" for political gain? he is a sinner you're right.
Selfishness = sin. Period. This is a big issue for McCain, he divorced his 1st wife(sin) as she was poor and only weeks later married his RICH PLASTIC WIFE. He was involved in one of the most criminal bank corruption scandlas in the 80's Google "The Keating 5" and there you'll see just what McCain stands for.
Thank you for allyour points, I welcome more when ever you think you have them.
Comment: Ha ha, again you ignore the references I gave you about war in the Bible. Please stop only listening to what you want to hear and start seeing the things directly in front of you. I wish the majority of Obama supporters would take the same advice, as they are all quite confused as to what exactly Obama is.
Comment: The problem IS Obama's "faith". Faith in what? He claims to be Christian. This truelly is not so.
Christian.
This word is thrown around by many people these days, but seldom do any of them truelly understand what it means.
Christian means you believe that Jesus Christ(hence Christian) is your savior and through Him only can you go to Heaven, not by works, by faith. Now that doesn't mean that works aren't needed for faith. On the contrary, as Paul states in Romans, good works are the completion of faith. Show me someone without works who has faith. Doesn't exist.
Thus the qualifications of being Christian extend further than belief in Jesus Christ as savior but also include having teh WANT and the STRUGGLE to uphold what is RIGHTEOUS and good. It DOES NOT mean you have to have no sin, FALSE. The whole concept of Christianity is that man is sinful and condemned to death, but that Christ rescues us from that.
Therefore, a TRUE Christian would hold Christian morals in high regard.
That means:
Abortion = murder. Period.
Gay marriage = sin. Period.
Racism = Sin. Period.
Lieing = sin. Period.
Selfishness = sin. Period.
Yet Obama is FOR abortion, FOR gay marriage, he proves EVERY DAY how selfish he is, and his quote "Christian" spiritual leader for the last 20 years is one of the most racist people in America.
As a devout Christian struggling the good fight for salvation, I cannot look at Obama with any respect. He throws around what is dearest to me, my religion, and tries to claim that he will support what I hold important. Rubbish. Plain clear flat out rubbish. His principles are anti-Christian in every way.
He may not be muslim but he sure as hell isn't Christian with what he is telling voters.
This CHRISTIAN will vote for McCain for the hope of upholding what I hold dearest, and what the world needs a lot more of.
McCain 08
Comment: The problem is not Obama's faith, it is that he changes his mind more than a girl changes her dress before going out on a date. His unending willingness to please everyone just gives me the hives. Can you imagine JFK saying, "Well, being a Catholic, just doesn't suit me anymore, and that Pope, What was he thinking?" I'm sorry, Barry, Oh, that's right he changed it to Obama so he could get the girl, needs more testoterone in his household. Go for a big male dog. That might help. but, bottom-line, I just don't trust him, he wants to be head cheerleader too badly. Oh, and McCain, the PTSD poster-child of the year, I'll be writing in Teddy Roosevelt this election.
Comment: What's going on here. Is the "bounce" a BUST????............................
Friday, July 11, 2008
The race for the White House is getting a bit closer. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama???s lead over John McCain down to a statistically insignificant single percentage point, 43% to 42%. Prior to today, Obama had enjoyed at least a four-point advantage every day since Hillary Clinton dropped out of the race over a month ago. This is the first time his support has fallen below the 45% level since May 31.
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: You mean to say he still leads over McCain, even when down? wow...a proportionate drop in both candidates, could it mean that it's summer and polls don't carry alot of excitement? LMAO
Comment: Saturday, July 12, 2008 Email to a FriendAdvertisement
The race for the White House is tied. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, Obama holds a statistically insignificant 47% to 46% advantage. Today is the first time that McCain???s support has moved above 45% since Obama clinched the nomination on June 3. It???s also the first time the candidates have been tied since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: polls are not important until after labor day !!
Comment: Know why McCain wants to distance himself from former Senator Phil Gramm? It is not just because of Gramm's recent obnoxious remarks calling Americans "a nation of whiners" and that unemployed Americans are in "a mental recession." In fact, those remarks were so obnoxious that I wonder if they were engineered just to provide McCain an excuse for publicly distancing himself from Gramm. This issue is a lot deeper than it looks on the surface.
When Gramm was a Senator he was chair of the Committee on Banking, and in that capacity he was able to push through the legislation now known as the "Enron Loophole." This loophole allowed US investment banks to bypass the Federal regulations governing futures trading, and is the reason why the investment banks were able to falsely inflate the prices of oil, wheat, corn and other commodities through massive futures trading, causing your costs of gas, heating oil and food to go through the roof.
Gramm was a member of McCain's campaign team, but now Gramms' name is turning to mud. In addition to the Enron loophole, Gramm pushed through the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act in 1999, which got rid of the laws that seperate banking, insurance and brokerage activities in America. Essentially, this Act did away with all of the good laws written after the Great Depression to protect us from another Wall Street/Banking Industry collapse. That's right, Gramm stripped the system of it's safe guards nine years ago, and guess what? The value of the dollar has nose-dived, Wall Street is highly unstable, and we are in the midst of a recession.
Now you could say that this is not Gramm's fault, that he didn't know what the outcome of his actions would be. However, it turns out that the same investment banks that benefited from the Enron loophole and from the Gramm Act gave more than a million dollars to Gramm's campaign. Uh oh. A Congressional hearing is going to be convened to investigate this. And McCain wants to have noting to do with Gramm, wants us to forget that Gramm has been a key player on McCain's campaign team. Gramm was McCain's campaign CO-CHAIR and LEADING ECONOMIC ADVISER.
With Gramm in the driver's seat as his leading economic adviser, now you know why economists and analysts are saying that McCain's economic policy plans are untenable.
Comment: These statistics seems to make sense from Gallup:
PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans who say religion is an important part of their daily lives support John McCain over Barack Obama for president, 50% to 40%, while their less religious counterparts support Obama over McCain, 55% to 36%.
Comment: Obama is supports Partial Birth ABORTION
What is Partial Birth Abortion:
* Partial Birth Abortion is a method to abort a baby as late as seven months into a pregnancy.
*The procedure is typically as follows... The doctor spends two days forcibly dialating the mother's cervix.
*The doctor uses forceps to pull the baby's legs down; rotating the baby so its head is away from the birth canal.
*The legs & body are pulled into the birth canal, until only the head, which is too large to pass through the cervix, remains in the uterus.
*The doctor uses a sharp instrument, such as scissors, to puncture the base of the baby's head.
*The doctor inserts a tube into the hole he created in the baby's skull and suctions out the baby's brain, allowing the baby's skull to crush and pass through the cervix.
Source: http://www.whatispartialbirthabortion.org/
Comment: Sharenews, this post is full of medical mis-information and sensationalistic nonsense. I know that you know the truth about partial birth abortion because I have posted it here before and you made comments to those posts. Yet you still intentionally try to manipulate readers with your inaccurate posts.
Partial birth abortion was developed to decrease damage to the mother during a late term abortion. In an abortion of a fetus greater than 18-20 weeks, the baby's head is so large and the mother's body so unready for induced labor, that extracting the fetus routinely tore the mother's cervix and caused massive bleeding. Usually the mother survived the hemorrhage, but often these women were unable to ever carry another baby to term after their cervix was lacerated.
Think of how heartbreaking it would be for a woman who wants a child but for a medical reason can not carry the current baby to term. Perhaps her baby died inside of her, and inducing labor failed, then the abortion tears her cervix and she will have to remain childless. Or her baby had severe hydrocephalus that caused it's brain not to form completely, a 100% fatal birth defect that even most pro-lifers agree is a reason for a late term abortion. Or she had a hormone sensitive cancer such the the cancer would kill her if she continued the pregnancy, but if she aborts then does chemo she could have another child, but her cervix tears during the abortion and she will have to remain childless. As a doctor, I have had patients with all of these tragic problems. Because of cases like this, obstetricians came up with a way to abort late term fetuses without the baby's head tearing the cervix. The baby is partially delivered feet first, a small hole is made at the base of the skull and the brain is suctioned out, causing the soft skull to deflate and allow the delivery without tearing the cervix. Disgusting, yes, but it does protect the mother and allow her to have more children.
Partial birth abortions are very rare. In Virginia where they keep track of this, a series of 25,000 abortions had only 60 partial birth procedures done.
Personally I think that late term abortions should be illegal except in the case of medical harm to the mother or severe birth defects. I think that I would put the gestational deadline for normal (not medically necessary) abortions at 16 weeks though, not 12.
Incidentally, the reason why Obama voted against the 2007 bill banning partial birth abortions is because that bill did not contain a clause protecting the rights of women who needed medically necessary abortions and the victims of rape and incest. Obama is NOT in favor of late term abortions, but he does believe that in some extreme cases they should be allowed.
Furthermore, "forcible" dilation of the cervix takes 20 minutes or less, not two days. You know that fact also. But you continue to post this mis-information because it sounds so lurid.
Comment: nins dear you are off track in the partial birth abortion procedure ! first the late trem baby will allwat fit through the birth canal that is delivery how ever if the baby is alive when it comes out then all steps have to be taken to keep the baby alive that is the law ! so that being said the doctors do dimember the infant inside of the mother to stop the live birth (thats the doctors useing the loophole of the law!) now on to your therory about the baby being (a) dead (b) too large for normal delivery once that determination is made the only procedure that should be done for the saftey of the mother would be a ETOPIC PREGNANCY SURGERY ! that is the only procedure that would assure the saftey of the mother and would prevent infection because of the dimembering of the dead child ( as a doctor you know that the human body begins decomposition right away after death ) hence thats why only a etopic preganacy surgery would be the only option!! the abortion doctors work under the radar of the law thats why the do it in a clinic not a hospital the clinic would be fine if they were removing a embyro or zygote and theses stages are in the first and the begining of the second trimester of preganacy so a late term abortion being done in a clinic posses GRAVE RISKS TO THE MOTHER NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF INFECTION BUT BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE HEMMORAGE OF THE UTERAN WALL which can be mistaken as normal bloody discharge resulting from the abortion too many women die from this horrible mistake and even more loose all chances of even being preganat again because of the infection spreading to the ovaries and causing endocriatosis of the uteran walls
Comment: You get sicker and more twisted by the day, ninny. QUIT LYING. Catholic, right??? Well your in danger, of eternal damnation. Conservative??? Maybe for a Socialist. Republican??? You are mentally deficient. Mostly though...you are a ninny. Bought time for mosque, isn't it???
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: HR, her name is Nins, and please do not pick on her by making offensive remarks. Thanks.
Comment: hiya pia hope all is well with you and yours !!
Comment: Hiya back at you willnotvoteobama! You are very sweet, thank you. I'm fine and so is my family . Hope you and your family are too.
Comment: offensive remarks??? Killing the innocents, and then trying to rationalize it, is offensive to me, and any normal human. Oh, I forgot. The innocents aren't human until the cord is cut. Well, your candidate voted TWICE, that born alive, botched abortions, don't get that status either.
Ninny says she is a Conservative, Catholic, Republican.....if true, she needs mental help. Hussein is against, the most basic rights of humanity. A loonie left wing liberal, and a crook and a fraud.
If you or the ninny, think for an instant, she is going to run around, spewing her trash, and not get called what she really is....well, too bad. Nins is a total ninny. And a FRAUD. Add crook to it, and you have another Hussein.
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: OBAMAS VOTING RECORD
MISSED VOTES, BAD ATTENDANCE???
Excerpt: When challenged on his missed vote, in one case, Obamas campaign blamed it on [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid. They claimed he was told the vote was put off. I have always had a problem with the way he passed the buck and blamed others for his failure to cast a vote on a bill he???s describing as a green light for attacking Iran, but that???s neither here nor there. I have always suspected that he really did know that vote was coming up ??? he is a US Senator after all and has a staff of something like 30 or 40 people working for him, and I am sure at least ONE of those staffers are charged with the job of keeping track of when votes were coming up," Alegre wrote.
More on this: SOURCE: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama:_U.S._presidential_election%2C_2008/Senate_attendance%2C_missed_votes
OBAMA HITS WRONG BUTTON WHEN VOTING ON LEGISLATURE
OBAMA SAID OOPS ON 6 STATE SENATE VOTES: What the heck?
He pushed the wrong button, he asserted at the time. Two of the admitted flubs were on HOTLY CONTESTED ISSUES.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,1,7079399.story?track=rss
OBAMAS VOTES JUST PRESENT FOR VOTES IN ILLINOIS WHICH ALLOWED HIM TO SIDESTEP CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES: New York Times | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ and CHRISTOPHER DREW | December 20, 2007 12:37 PM
In 1999, Barack Obama was faced with a difficult vote in the Illinois legislature -- to support a bill that would let some juveniles be tried as adults, a position that risked drawing fire from African-Americans, or to oppose it, possibly undermining his image as a tough-on-crime moderate.
In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted PRESENT effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html?ei=5088&en=8385d348acbab84e&ex=1355806800&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1209935321-m6g1pEKjjmDSN0IklnbG1w
Comment: More twisted lies from Sharenews. Out of hundreds of votes each year, Obama accidentally pressed the wrong button only six times. After hitting the wrong button, Obama immediately had his vote changed, so that when they tallied the votes Obama's official vote was the correct one that he intended. However, the first (inaccurate) vote shows in the record as well as the amended vote, but only the amended vote counts
Furthermore, it is common practice in the Illinois State Senate to vote PRESENT, and it used as a political tool in a different way than in the National Senate, where you can not vote Present, only Yea or Nay.
Comment: ninny-you talk pretty...pretty twisted. I guess the multiple personality disorder, you so glaringly exhibit, is really getting to you.
Obama accidentally pressed the wrong button. Maybe if it was after an evening of crack rock and man love. Most likely, he did what good buddy Tony "The Syrian" told him to do. You, and I, and anyone who is paying attention, knows he was pandering to voters, and then voting for the $$$......ever here of FISA??? Ever here of faith based initiatives??? Ever hear of evaluating AFTER, visiting Iraq??? Ever hear of throwing your Pastor..er...spiritual mentor under the bus??? Ever hear of DONALD YOUNG???
You need to quit lying so much. It's as old as your messiah's message of HOPE and CHANGE. Mostly CHANGE. He does that daily.
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: Carly Fiorina is one of John McCain's chief surrogates, particularly talking him up to women. But Fiorina, who was ousted as chief of Hewlett-Packard in 2005, is not above lying to soften the edges on McCain's positions that are unpopular with women.
On Monday, Fiorina said this to a group of reporters "Let me give you a real, live example, which I've been hearing a lot about from women. There are many health insurance plans that will cover Viagra but won't cover birth control medication. Those women would like a choice." She said. And then for emphasis, she repeated "Those women would like a choice."
Clearly, women don't need to chose between birth control and Viagra. So by saying those women would like a choice, just what did Fiorina mean? Is she trying to make McCain look Pro-Choice?
This is not the first time that Fiorina has taken some license with McCain's positions. She recently told women in Columbus, Ohio that McCain "has never signed on to efforts to overturn Roe vs. Wade." This is a blatant falsehood and misrepresentation of McCain's position, since McCain's own campaign website states "John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that."
When it comes to the birth control issue, in a rebuttal to Fiorina's Monday comments, the group Pro-Choice America was happy to point out that McCain twice voted against measures that would have required insurance companies to cover birth control -- in 2003 and in 2005.
The Republican said Wednesday that he did not recall those votes. "It's something that I had not thought much about." he added.
Now that will make him popular with women voters.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/09/mccain-squirms-on-birth-control-question/
Comment: Got one question:
Why haven't the two candidates agreed to a debate yet? (We're waitng...)
Comment: The debates begin after the conventions. Until then, neither candidate is the official nominee.
Comment: There really is no reason why Obama cant meet with McCain in a Town Hall meeting that McCain challenged him to last month. Even one would be interesting to see how both would stand up against each other in that type of format for debate. Looks like Obama will not rise to that occasion though.
Comment: There is no doubt that debates will happen with plenty of time to evaluate performances. McCain literally needs help with nothing to loose and Obama is smart to put him off and wait. Most likely, by all indications, Obama will excel in any debate and McCain won't. McCain would prefer an unstructured townhall format but that really doesn't offer the public much - just to see the candidates dance around and say what they want.
Comment: Hussein said he would debate McCain anywhere, anytime...until he was challenged. Then he decided he would wait. There is no reason debates, could not be handled now...except...Hussein is still changing his positions. Looks like Jesse Jackson even knows he is a FRAUD. Just like the ninny.
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: Republican faith, Sending people to their maker one bullet at a time.
Comment: So what is the case for McCain?
No candidate for President since Wendell Wilkie in 1940 has had as little relevant experience before running for President as Barack Obama. The Illinois Senator served for 8 years, in a generally undistinguished fashion, in the Illinois legislature. He was best known for voting present more often than any other State Senator. When the Democrats took over the Legislature the last two years he served, Obama worked out a deal with the Democratic leader, Emil Jones, to get his name on some bills so he could buff up his resume before running for the open US Senate seat.
In the US Senate, Obama missed many votes in his first term even before he launched his Presidential bid, as he traveled the country speaking to Democratic Party events (and positioning himself with activists for a future Presidential run). Since the campaign began, he has missed virtually all Senate votes and failed to hold meetings of his own subcommittee. So the Obama record is very thin.
His major campaign themes have been lofty messages of change and hope and bipartisan unity. This is a smart course to take, when you have little to show for your years in public office. McCain needs to focus on Obama''s record of scant legislative accomplishment and inexperience. What has Barack Obama done, as opposed to claiming to have done?
Comment: Chloe, you are setting yourself up by posting this stuff. Didn't you know that McCain has missed far more votes than Obama? The information below is current as of the end of June.
It is understood that Clinton, McCain and Obama have all missed many votes during the campaign season. However, if the reader will take the trouble to page through Obama's voting record (http://obama.senate.gov), they will see that Obama has been present for all of the important votes. Obama has been present and voted on 62 of the 154 bills before Congress in the current session beginning January 2008. Clinton has voted on 56 of these 154 bills. And McCain, who had already won the primary and didn't have to start campaigning against Obama until a few weeks ago, McCain voted on only 33 of 154 bills.
As I have exposed in one of my earlier blogs, McCain missed more than half of his votes, even before he started running for President. In the First Session of the 110th Congress (2007) McCain missed a whopping 56% of his votes. McCain doesn't want you to know this, so when you go to his Senate web page, there is no tab to click to see his voting record (http://mccain.senate.gov). An American who wants to know how McCain votes has to look it up on the Library of Congress website (not user friendly) or go to the Washington Post website:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/votes/
While you are there, pay special attention to McCain's votes on March 13 and 14, 2008. On those days we know he was present, because he voted on 22 bills. But he refused to vote on 22 other bills. He failed to vote on several bills concerning border security, alien removal and English in the workplace, even though he has set himself up as the candidate who wants immigration reform favorable to Hispanics. He also failed to vote on the bills regarding efficient energy production, even though he claims to be in favor of this. He must not be very much in favor of efficient energy and immigration reform since he refused to vote even though he was present. As for Obama and Clinton, they were both present those days, and they both voted on all 44 bills.
McCain knows that public perception is all that matters, so he gives a news conference and says he supports certain issues, even though he refuses to vote in favor of them. He knows that most Americans never take the time to look up his voting record, and he makes sure that his Senate web page doesn't include this information.
Furthermore, Obama has been in legislative office 12 years, not four as you state.
Comment: OBAMAS VOTING RECORD
MISSED VOTES, BAD ATTENDANCE???
Excerpt: When challenged on his missed vote, in one case, Obamas campaign blamed it on [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid. They claimed he was told the vote was put off. I have always had a problem with the way he passed the buck and blamed others for his failure to cast a vote on a bill he???s describing as a green light for attacking Iran, but that???s neither here nor there. I have always suspected that he really did know that vote was coming up ??? he is a US Senator after all and has a staff of something like 30 or 40 people working for him, and I am sure at least ONE of those staffers are charged with the job of keeping track of when votes were coming up," Alegre wrote.
More on this: SOURCE: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama:_U.S._presidential_election%2C_2008/Senate_attendance%2C_missed_votes
OBAMA HITS WRONG BUTTON WHEN VOTING ON LEGISLATURE
OBAMA SAID OOPS ON 6 STATE SENATE VOTES: What the heck?
He pushed the wrong button, he asserted at the time. Two of the admitted flubs were on HOTLY CONTESTED ISSUES.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,1,7079399.story?track=rss
OBAMAS VOTES JUST PRESENT FOR VOTES IN ILLINOIS WHICH ALLOWED HIM TO SIDESTEP CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES: New York Times | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ and CHRISTOPHER DREW | December 20, 2007 12:37 PM
In 1999, Barack Obama was faced with a difficult vote in the Illinois legislature -- to support a bill that would let some juveniles be tried as adults, a position that risked drawing fire from African-Americans, or to oppose it, possibly undermining his image as a tough-on-crime moderate.
In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted PRESENT effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html?ei=5088&en=8385d348acbab84e&ex=1355806800&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1209935321-m6g1pEKjjmDSN0IklnbG1w
Comment: More twisted lies from Sharenews. Out of hundreds of votes each year, Obama accidentally pressed the wrong button only six times. After hitting the wrong button, Obama immediately had his vote changed, so that when they tallied the votes Obama's official vote was the correct one that he intended. However, the first (inaccurate) vote shows in the record as well as the amended vote, but only the amended vote counts
Furthermore, it is common practice in the Illinois State Senate to vote PRESENT, and it used as a political tool in a different way than in the National Senate, where you can not vote Present, only Yea or Nay.
Comment: I thought this is suitable under this topic. I just thought I would share something of interest. I have been reading the book WHAT HAPPENED, Inside the Bush White House by Scott McClellan and Scott takes some time to describe how George W Bush regularly convinces himself that lies he tells are true. Scott writes, after he describes one occasion, ???I know Bush and I know he genuinely believes what he says??? and Scott then goes on to call it ???self-deceit???. Now I have a degree in Psychology, have read probably over 50 books on the subject, and have thought for some time that George W Bush vividly displays a sociopathic personality (as I feel Karl Rove and Hillary Clinton do) and, whether Scott McClellan realizes it or not, that is likely what he is describing. The sociopathic personality has no conscience, is totally self-indulgent and will go to great lengths, without ever experiencing any guilt, to achieve what they want. As Martha Stout, in her book THE SOCIOPATH NEXT DOOR, put it ???their only goal is to win??? and they will go to any length, without ever experiencing any guilt, just to win. They simply think it is their entitlement. She adds that they are quite good at ???faking most anything???. It seems to me an interesting confirmation of what I suspected, which then goes a long way to explain things.
Comment: Obama has always been a moderate Democrat. He has some liberal ideas and some conservative ones, but overall he is a centrist. Read his book Audacity of Hope (written more than four years ago) and you will see that he is saying the exact same things today that he was saying then.
The liberal media and the radical right have both wanted to paint Obama as a leftist liberal, each for their own reasons. They each were guilty of creating an image of Obama that simply is not accurate. Now, they are both screaming, the liberals saying "He's going centrist and abandoning the liberals!" and the right wingers saying "He's flip flopping by going moderate!"
Both factions are wrong. Obama has not changed. Obama himself referred to this problem last fall, when he said that people were going to project all kinds of ideas onto him, and that some of them were going to be disappointed, because he can only be who he is.
Obama is a moderate Democrat. Always was a moderate Democrat. End of story.
Comment:
NATIONAL JOURNAL???s
2007 Vote Ratings
Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007
By Brian Friel, Richard E. Cohen and Kirk Victor, National Journal
© National Journal Group Inc.
Thursday, Jan. 31, 2008
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.
Comment: Geez, Nins. Sometimes I think you are the only one with sense on these boards! I, too, read both of Obama's books 2.5 years ago before he was a blip on the political screen. He hasn't changed. As much as they want to demonize him, the fact remains that Obama is a good, honest, moral man. The way he has led his life tells me that. He worked his butt off to graduate from a prestigious law school, married a successful attorney--and has been with her for 18 years altogether, is an amazing, caring parent to his two girls, and he worked tirelessly to turn around a poor community in Chicago. He is still finding his political footing, true, but I believe in him because I know his heart is in the right place, and he has the intelligence and courage to carry through. I do not see that in McCain, who has turned bailed on both of his wives when they needed him. Ok, he was a POW for 5 years. We get it. What else? I don't think being a POW should automatically score you the most powerful seat in the world.
We all flip-flop, if you think about it. We make decisions based on the knowledge we have at the time. Nothing is black and white (except for the world of the neocons). I respect Obama for his honesty, and for that fact that he isn't part of the deceitful current administration. McCain is Bush's lackey.
Comment: Thank you, Summer, not only for the nice thing you said to me, but even more for your heart-felt post.
I agree with you that Obama is a good, honest, moral man. If people would only read Audacity of Hope and compare it to McCain's autobiograhies they would really see a lot that the media isn't telling them about both candidates.
Comment:
FROM THE GALLUP POLLING:
80% OF AMERICANS SEE MCCAIN AS CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF COMMANDER IN CHIEF:
July 3, 2008
Nearly All Americans Consider Military Service PATRIOTIC
Symbolic gestures valued more highly by older Americans and the less educated
by Lymari Morales
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Nearly two-thirds of Americans (62%) say serving in the U.S. military reveals "a great deal" about one's patriotism, ranking it second only to voting in elections among six items rated in a recent USA Today/Gallup poll. More than half of Americans (53%) say the same about reciting the pledge of allegiance, and far fewer about wearing an American flag pin.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama spent much of this Independence Day week trying to assure voters of his patriotism, having been faulted during the Democratic primary season for at times not wearing an American flag pin, and for not placing his hand over his heart during the national anthem on at least one occasion. Obama's speech on Monday, entitled "The America We Love," included praise for Republican rival John McCain's service to his country in Vietnam, in response to retired Gen. Wesley Clark's statement that McCain's experience as a Navy pilot and prisoner of war does not necessarily qualify him to be commander in chief.
McCain's service in Vietnam is generally considered an advantage in this wartime election against Obama, who has never served in the military, and a key reason why:
80% OF AMERICANS SEE MCCAIN AS CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF COMMANDER IN CHIEF:
The Gallup data reveal that Americans do in fact consider military service in general to be a sign of patriotism. While Republicans are among the most likely of all groups to say serving in the military reveals a great deal about one's patriotism, more than half of both Democrats and independents agree. Republicans also tend to place more value on saying the pledge of allegiance and wearing an American flag pin, while independents align more closely with Democrats, who are generally less likely to place a high value on each action.
source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108646/Nearly-All-Americans-Consider-Military-Service-Patriotic.aspx
Comment: OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!
OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!
TWO Days later . . .
OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat, REALLY! Iran is a GREAT threat, I am not kidd???n here!
WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU
Comment: It's rather ironic to see Mccain castigated for having had divorces by the same party that gave us BIll Clinton and cigars, and JFK and Marilyn Monroe (ad nauseum).
Comment: It is a shame that candidates have to expose their private religious beliefs to criticism or worse to pretend. We saw in the last presidential elections how religious leaders were recruited and then used to help manipulate the voters based solely on limited issues. Religion is something that is so private and personal it should be off-limits. It should be enough to judge a persons demonstrated performance, stated values and displayed character without getting into judging something that none of us can say for sure is right or wrong. We would really have to judge ourselves first, and that takes a life time.
Comment: Well Obama has no religion, no church, no pastor. How can he say and talk about faith?
Comment: Obama can talk about faith because he has faith. Obama is a Christian. That is his religion.
If Obama currently belongs to no church, that is because he is traveling so much. Once he settles down in Washington I am sure he will join a local church and have a pastor again. Furthermore, there is a large group of ministers, pastors, reverends and priests that pray with and for Obama every week.
Comment: I am pretty sure Obama will be flip flopping back into Trinity United Church of Christ after the election.
Comment: How can people get into name calling and character assassination without realizing that they define themselves far more than who they are attacking.
Comment: It funny how a candidate can support gay marriage and be called "God-fearing"
Comment: It's funny how some people in our PLURALISTIC, DIVERSE society can be so self-rightesou and absolutely SURE they are indeed the moral compass for us all.
I say, get your minds out of the gutter, and onto more intelligent topics. A person's religious beliefs should not be on parade in a political arena. It should be strictly off-limits.
I can't believe people actually believe that they can legislate on such a private, personal matter - "Marriage is between a Man and a Woman" is simply an excuse for BIGOTRY to be UPHELD and for DISCRIMINATION to be CONDONED.
Get over your simpering, school-marmish moralizing and get your mind off sex. Period. Religion does not exist in order to regulate human sexual behavior - it is an individual, personal and spiritual journey that people may opt to take, and follow, or may not. Get over yourselves, simpletons who believe that Super Patriots are "good" and everyone else is "evil" - forgettaboutit!!!
Comment: Gallup Daily: July 8, 2008
Obama 46%
McCain 44%
The nations registered voters remain closely divided in their presidential preferences, with 46% of those interviewed in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 5-7 saying they will vote for Democrat Barack Obama and 44% favoring Republican John McCain.
more: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108700/Gallup-Daily-Obama-46-McCain-44.aspx
Wow, what happened here? Obama had a 6 point lead a few days ago last I looked. CNN just had a story on this saying that the flip-flopping tag is starting to stick and promotion of it is only going to get worse.
Comment: Polling is POINTLESS. Studies show more than 85% of the voters make changes behind the curtain. Most peolpe will not reveal their true feelings to pollsters fearing ridicule. So there.... Go Obama.
Comment: YOU SAY: So there. . . . ? I totally agree. Everyone thinks that they really know how the vote will go in the GE but it is a very well known fact that once those curtains are drawn by the voter (so to speak) it is any ones guess as to how the vote will go. And with this race being more close than I imagined it to beI guarantee that those voters of Obama in the Primaries will not in anyway vote for Obama in an all encompassing manner (meaning many will change their vote when it comes to officially pulling the lever so to speak to vote for Obama).
Comment: And no doubt a large amount of cheating and bribing will be taking place in certain pockets of the country to once again "jigger" the vote in favor of the old, white man, the Republican.
Or perhaps the GOP will "neatly" arrange a plane crash so Obama never makes it to the White House.
You can almost bet on it, one way or another, by HOOK OR BY CROOK, the GOP will find a way (underhandedly) to prevail once again - "miraculously" out of NOWHERE, McCain't will be our next Prez.
Comment: Pollilng at this point is meaningless and is throwing good money after bad.
Comment: "Faith-based" = mind control cult.
Remember, "god" is nothing more than a nonsense word created by man to explain away all of the things we can't yet understand.
Religion is a disease of the mind, born of fear, which has done nothing but bring untold misery down upon the human race.
Comment: Faith based can have a wide meaning, and yet you are stupid enough to attack those who believe in God. Everything in existance and orcastratioin points to Creator.
You statement is blank since you did not consider the mass murders and suicide due to the beliefs of athiest. Hitler was an atheist and most real nazis still are, also communist and some of the ancient warlords of japan but i noticed you did not mentioned that. To say religion is born of fear is far fom the truth. But atheism is all based on theory and a result of desire and human desires without control ussually leads to destruction.
Comment: Why don't you go to all the 12 step groups in the US and explain to them your point of view. Explain to them how pointless it is to turn their lives over to a power greater than themselves. Then why don't you hang around and see what happens in their lives.
I have yet to see an atheist or agnostic do anything outside of themselves. I don't see them reach out to help those in need, i see them only live for themselves. Maybe i just haven't met the right atheist/agnotic yet but I've been around for awhile...
Comment: Now, here is the difference between people who believe in God and those who say that they don't. You want the right to be free of God, then want us to stand around while you abuse us and attempt to force us to get God out of our lives. You want God taken out of schools, you want God taken out of government, etc... You wish to deny those of us who believe of the right to worship and you criticise us for believing and worshipping. Why is it that you can't give us the same courtesy you want us to give you? Is anyone blogging about how stupid you are for not believing? Is anyone criticizing you? Therein is the difference. You want tolerance, but show no tolerance for others
Comment: Hi again RM. Best to ya. Off the topic here but I just noticed your comments on my criminal accusation of Bush-Cheney and all and thought they did need an answer, I didn't want you thinking I made those accusations lightly. I suspect everyone today understands that the information that Bush used to justify attacking Iraq was false and I myself think there is more than enough information to support that they were knowingly false; i.e. lies. To lie to the congress is a criminal offense. I myself have no doubt that had there been a sufficient Democratic majority, impeachment proceeding would have been initiated, also for Cheney and prosecutions of a few others as well. The evidence to support that is substantial; i.e. Richard Clark, Ambassador Wilson and more. And yes, I do lump McCain with Bush and that is simply because McCain has said to; also I live in the Senators state and have seen a lot of him. I appreciate and respect your first hand experience but thankfully that is not the only way to become aware, to be educated. Lastly realize that I don't just condemn Bush or even just his administration, even though I feel there is enough evidence to label them as the worst in history. The Republican Congress backed and supported him in everything and are just as guilty; it couldn't have been done without them. The Democrats aren't saints and it is a shame that we really don't have many in politics now. What I see that gives me no choice is that we desperately need change and Barack seems the only one offering it. Good luck guy and enjoy your blogging. Semper Fi
Comment: Hey ret, believe ALL you like, just do it in your home, your church, and your BIBLE SCHOOLS. Do NOT try to lead us to WAR to bring about the end of days...like Bush has. Why do you think there is such a concern over Israel?
No body wants god out of YOUR life, just STOP trying to force your "God" into everybody elses.
worship all you like and wash up while you're at it....lol
Quit your whinning and get back to your bible, YOUR BIBLE, remember "religious freedom"...that means ALL religion not just yours, and for people like you, that is where the problem lies...
Comment: Maybe your god is.
Comment: That is extremely cynical. I am struggling with faith too. I will give you that horrible things have happened (and are happening) in the name of religion, but many powerful things happen as well. Everyday faith based organizations reach out to people in need. That is a good thing no matter what you believe.
Comment: Feeding the hungry, nursing the sick, etc. is great but why do you need the fear of an invisible sky daddy to motivate you to help others? These mind control cults have spread their lies and deceit around this planet for far too long. It's time we all moved beyond the need for all this childish, ignorant, silly superstitious mumbo jumbo. Karl Marx said it best: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions."
Comment: please read my post to matthew.fumia above as I think it could apply to you as well.
Comment: Anyone who worships Karl Marx just lost any credibility. Look what happened to the people influenced by Marx. Yes, one could say that they were real happy right?.... NOT
Comment: McCain supporters, lately I have been noticing that you don't use your time wisely blogging because the majority of you come here to post Obama smears insteading of praising your candidate. Why is that? Do you want your candidate elected? Doesn't seem like it to me becasue I rarely see any positive posts on McCain's attributes. You only praise McCain by smearing, lying about and diminishing Obama. Dumb move. Or could it be there is nothing you can praise him for? That's it.
Comment: But it is so easy, AND so much fun. I have consistently told the truth about Hussein..He is a CROOK and a FRAUD.
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: So what are you like taking a break from your hot sex life with sinclair? Stay in bed where you belong, with a nice...Dick Cheney is such an bad guy...in your mouth.
Comment: HolyRoller, you are so full of the BS it isn't funny. I'm surprised you have the nerve to use the word (truth) and not choke on it. Talk about FRAUD!
Comment: Hahahahahahaha!!!! Though your comment seems to be driven from ideocy, it is funny and maybe true.
NOHOLYROLLER!!!
Comment: Pia, you sound like me back in the primaries when I was telling Obama supporters to state benefits about him instead of smearing the Hillary and husband.
Comment: GM sharenews. I do sound like you and I will take it as a compliment.
Comment: : - ) Yes, I was complimenting you .
Comment: Obama preaches love and tolerance and change and hope............ The dem party is preaching unity and glossing over the huge rift in the party.
But all the tolerance and change and unity is total hypocrisy as correctly evidenced by this quote from OBAMAYESWECAN
"And you scumbag Hill-itler supporters are really pushing our nerves. Despite being a big loser in the primary you demand us to treat your filthy kind well? Sorry but we're much smarter than that. We see what you scumbags really are: despicable parasites who intend to screw us when the times comes. "
Of course, since I've had the nerve to say something unflatterering about Obama, next they'll call me a racist. But it's okay to call their fellow party member scumbags and despicable parasites. LOL. These obam-ewes don't really listen to anyone else, but they ought to stop a moment and listen to THEMSELVES!!!! They might be horrified. I know I am.
Comment: pezled,
Since the primaries thare have been several new bloggers who do nothing but post those types of comments, either blatantly racist or blatantly sexist about both Clinton and Obama. A lot of us who have been on NSW sites for a while see them as being suspect. By that I mean that they are not here to contribute anything of substance but to only create chaos between mainly Clinton and Obama supporters.
Obamayeswecan is one of those if you are able to go back and read their posts they go back and forth between being insulting to Obama or insulting to Clinton, I am really not sure who this person is supporting. They are playing both sides. Ignore them.
Comment: In his effort to move to the center, Obama has distorted his own record, meager though it may be, and is taking credit for a program he strongly opposed. McCain should immediately run an ad in all of the states in which his opponent is advertising setting forth the facts and explaining Obama''s distortion. McCain calls him on his distortion, he can do grave damage to Obama on three fronts: credibility, centrism, and experience.
By catching Obama, he can undermine the effectiveness of any subsequent ads the Democrat runs. By showing that he opposed welfare reform, McCain can do much to force Obama back to the left and cast doubt on his efforts to move to the middle. And by emphasizing Obama''s limited experience, he can strike at a soft spot ??? made softer by Hillary''s attacks in the primary.
The move is right there for McCain. Now lets see how good his campaign really is.
The Obama ad, which introduces him as someone who worked his way through college, fights for American jobs, and battles for healthcare also seeks to move him to the center by taking credit for welfare reform in Illinois which, the ad proclaims, reduced the rolls by 80 percent.
But there''s one problem ??? Obama opposed the 1996 welfare reform act at the time. The Illinois law for which he takes credit was merely the local implementing law the state was required to pass, and it did, almost unanimously. Obama''s implication, that he backed "moving people from welfare to work," is just not true.
Comment: Hey CornHolyO, just for old time sake...a reminder to all who are in awe of HolyO...the lover of sinclair and the one who repeatedly calls Obama"Handsome".
Awe what a good little sheep. you hit just about every one of the Sean Hannity/FOXpublican talking points that there has been, so cudos to you.
UNFORTUNATELY, as usual you are FULL OF RACIST SH!T! Nobody cares about Rev Wright, unless you just want to again boost his numbers and make him stronger, like each time it came up in the primaries. Also Only about 13% of voters still think he's Muslim, 13% why does that sound familuar? Oh yeah that is the combined number of people from Wva And Kn who said they would not vote for him because he's BLACK, not Muslim, BLACK.
You see I have figured out the whole "Muslim" joke. I refuse to believe that 43 million people can be that STUPID, when it is clear that he is NOT and NEVER has been a Muslim. He is however BLACK and always has been (at least half). It's not ok, or socially acceptable to hate himm for being "Black" you can't just come out and call him the "N" word, not anymore. BUT, you can hate him if you "believe" he's Muslim, right now that is acceptable socailly, now only by about 28% of the population, but it's easier to claim that's why YOU hate him and get away with it then to just say..."I hate that "N" word"...and it makes you angry that you can't just come out and say it, you think it should be your right, and it is, you're just a coward, so you say "Muslim" instead of "N" word. Shame on you RACIST.
Comment: Appears Hussein is a man of character, after all. I just picked up this thank you letter due to be released across the country, to all his supporters. I apologize for all my negative comments. He may well be the Messiah...........
My fellow Americans:
As your future President I want to thank my supporters, for your mindless support of me, despite my complete lack of any legislative achievement, my pastor's relations with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan dictator Moamar Quadafi, or my blatantly leftist voting record while I present myself as some sort of bi-partisan agent of change.
I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal behavior somehow qualifies me for the Presidency after 8 years of claiming Bush's youthful drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is a beacon of hope shining over a sea of political posing.
I would also like to thank the Kennedy's for coming out in support of me. There's a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though JFK started the Vietnam War, his brother Robert illegally wiretapped Martin Luther King, Jr. and Teddy killed a female employee with whom he was having an extra marital affair and who was pregnant with his child. And I'm not going anywhere near the cousins, both literally and figuratively.
And I'd like to thank Oprah Winfrey for her support. Her love of meaningless empty platitudes will be the force that propels me to the White House.
Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or achievement, but because I make people feel good.
Voting for me causes some white folk to feel relieved of their imagined, racist guilt. I say things that sound meaningful, but don't really mean anything because Americans are tired of things having meaning. If things have meaning, then that means you have to think about them.
Americans are tired of thinking. It's time to shut down the brain and open up the heart. So when you go to vote, remember don't think, just do. And do it for me.
Thank You.
Barack Hussein Obama,
NOBAMA!!!
Comment: the article said that Dems won 74% of "Secular vote" in 2006. What in the world is a "Secular voter"??
Comment: I found this definition when I googled.
People (voter) who support separation of church and state, which can include everyone from the Amish to atheists. The Coalition of Secular Voters recognizes, as the Founding Fathers did, that all of our religious freedoms are protected when the wall of separation between church and state is strong.
http://secularvoters.org/content/About.aspx
Comment: NOT-RELIGIOUS
Comment: No just not blinded by religion, not apt to use it for murder and greed, like the "religious right". And yes a seperation for exactly that reason.
Comment: New Pro-Hillary website launched today. Sign the pledge to get her name on the ballot for nomination.
Here is the new site. Check it out: http://www.together4us.com/
THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!
We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:
Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:
Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)
Ensuring a roll-call vote
Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage
Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.
Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.
Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.
Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.
We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.
Comment: HOLY CRAP, PLEASE DO THIS ABSURD ATTEMPT AT RETURNING TO VIABILITY..................I ALMOST LOST THE LEVEL OF HIGH THAT THE PASSIONED BUT WAY OUT TOUCH W/REALITY APPROACH THAT YOU HILLARY SUPPORTERS SERVED UP LAST TIME...................NOTHING COULD MAKE MY DAY BETTER!........................................YOU HILLARY SUPPORTERS "COMPLETE ME"! .....LOL!
