Democrats and Faith

Gallup Daily: July 8, 2008

Obama 46%

McCain 44%

The nations registered voters remain closely divided in their presidential preferences, with 46% of those interviewed in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 5-7 saying they will vote for Democrat Barack Obama and 44% favoring Republican John McCain.

more: http://www.gallup.com/poll/108700/Gallup-Daily-Obama-46-McCain-44.aspx

Wow, what happened here? Obama had a 6 point lead a few days ago last I looked. CNN just had a story on this saying that the flip-flopping tag is starting to stick and promotion of it is only going to get worse.

It funny how a candidate can support gay marriage and be called "God-fearing"

"Faith-based" = mind control cult.

Remember, "god" is nothing more than a nonsense word created by man to explain away all of the things we can't yet understand.

Religion is a disease of the mind, born of fear, which has done nothing but bring untold misery down upon the human race.

Most of the truly sick democrats, and some equally as sick republicans, continue to show their disdain for Pres Bush as being a murderer - however, he is the only one I have noticed to stand up for the rights of the unborn. The truly sick democrats and a few minority republicans will have no problem with having an abortion, but shout at the president for a war in Iraq against terrorism. The stats?

About 1.3 million abortions are carried out in the US each year, almost 90% in the first trimester by vacuum aspiration. The number of partial birth abortions is unclear because of problems with definitions and the collection of statistics. Estimates are less than 1%, perhaps as low as 0.2%.

Thats a sick statistic...... equally sick is Barrack Obama... a champion to partial birth abortions. Torture, cruelty and outright murder.... all done in the name of choice. Whatever- the choice existed long before the baby. Some woman out there made the choice - now she wants another choice? What a sick society - by definition will be validated if you elect barry "I may be a christian, but it is hard to tell" Obama

For those who seem to think that Sen. Obama is a champion for partial birth abortions, I would invite you to listen more carefully to what he actually says and not what you have conjured up in your minds. He is a pro-choice candidate and what that means is he believes each individual in this country has the right to choose what to do with their own life. Those who spend so much time hating others because of the choices they make need to understand that God is the judge of the human race, not HolyRoller or jazzbebop or a political party or religious group. Sen. Obama has said in the case of partial birth abortion that he believes it should be left up to the individual states to decide whether they allow it. No one likes the idea of abortion but those who are pro-choice understand that we do not have the right to dictate to others what they can or cannot do. Abortion has declined by 25 percent in the past decade and I see no reason to believe that will not continue and even improve. A lot of work has been done and continues to be done to help end abortion but it is being accomplished not by hating but by reaching out and guiding in a compassionate way.

Whatever superiority Obama has as a candidate over McCain, Obama is still black and there are people who cannot move off that to save their lives, to save their country, even to save the lives of their children, who will be sent into endless war by McCain. They hate and fear black people more than they love their kids, their homes, their health care, their children's educations. They cannot get past color even if they want to. So Obama has to overcome that. They will say "He's Muslim," theywill attribute it to Jeremiah Wright, they will talk about inexperience but hte real issue is that Obama is black.

So Obama has to make sure that he defines himself clearly on everything and show people that he is like them, that black is not a prohitibitng factor. I am betting he can but he is gonna have to struggle.

Did you know that if McCain is elected you will have to pay income tax on the value of the medical insurance that your employer gives you? Worse still, he is offering a tax break for people who pay their own insurance, BUT only $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families.

Let's say you have a family of four. Your insurance policy costs would be at least $1,500-2,500 per month under a self-pay plan, which cost more than employer group plans. So, you pay $18,000 -$30,000 per year for insurance, and you get to deduct only $5,000 of that. If you paid $25,000 for you insurance, you would be out of pocket $20,000 per year. This is FAR WORSE than the current system, where if you are self employed you can deduct 100% of you medical insurance costs.

So, if you're not self employed, you would stick with your Employer's plan. Employer plans for a family of four have a value of $900-$1,500 per month totaling 10,800-$18,000 per year. Surprise! On April 15th, you owe tax on all of that as INCOME to you. Say your bracket is 25%, and the value of your Employer medical plan is $14,000. You will OWE THE IRS an additional $3,500, and that's ON TOP of whatever monthly premium you already pay to your employer for your insurance.

Many analysts say that McCain's new rules would encourage employers to stop offering health benefits. If that happened, then far fewer Americans would be insured than are insured today, because what family of four can afford $18,000-$30,000 out of pocket per year for self-pay health insurance?

Furthermore, McCain's plan does not require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions of people who self-pay their insurance. People under employer group plans have all of their pre-existing conditions covered. This is a hugely unfair aspect of the current system. Insurance companies can afford to cover the pre-existing conditions of the much larger pool of people with group insurance, but they refuse to pay the pre-existing conditions on the smaller pool of self-pay customers. They have been allowed to price gouge the self-pay customers, which is a form of market manipulation that should be illegal.

So let's say one of your kids had diabetes and you have high blood pressure, then your employer stops offering insurance. You now have to buy your own, but you and your child are INELIGIBLE due to pre-existing conditions. Oh, yeah, they will let you buy the insurance, but you can't use it for any pre-existing condition until you have paid on time every month for two years. And you know what happens at one year and 11 months? You get a letter saying your policy has been cancelled. I have many patients this has happened to.

McCain's plan SUCKS.

It does nothing to help middle class working Americans afford or obtain medical insurance. In fact, it makes the current system WORSE.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/29/mccain_unveils_health_care_pla.html?nav=rss_email/components

And what CREDIBLE Christian would vote for a person who would send our young women and men to die in Iraq in a war cooked up by your Republican Party. A Vote for mcCain is a vote to kill soldiers. Can i pull it any plainer than that?

Politicians have to claim to be religious or they just wont get elected. Obama and McCain alike. Most of them are smarter than to buy into Organized religion BS but realize that their constituancy isn't. Religion is natural selections best friend.

Obama preaches love and tolerance and change and hope............ The dem party is preaching unity and glossing over the huge rift in the party.

But all the tolerance and change and unity is total hypocrisy as correctly evidenced by this quote from OBAMAYESWECAN

"And you scumbag Hill-itler supporters are really pushing our nerves. Despite being a big loser in the primary you demand us to treat your filthy kind well? Sorry but we're much smarter than that. We see what you scumbags really are: despicable parasites who intend to screw us when the times comes. "

Of course, since I've had the nerve to say something unflatterering about Obama, next they'll call me a racist. But it's okay to call their fellow party member scumbags and despicable parasites. LOL. These obam-ewes don't really listen to anyone else, but they ought to stop a moment and listen to THEMSELVES!!!! They might be horrified. I know I am.

You can''t have Change without sacrafice- what are you willing to sacrafice? Obama wants your soul. MCCAIN wants REAL CHANGE without the sacrafice of taxing you. Which do you prefer?

the article said that Dems won 74% of "Secular vote" in 2006. What in the world is a "Secular voter"??

Comment: Most of the truly sick democrats, and some equally as sick republicans, continue to show their disdain for Pres Bush as being a murderer - however, he is the only one I have noticed to stand up for the rights of the unborn. The truly sick democrats and a few minority republicans will have no problem with having an abortion, but shout at the president for a war in Iraq against terrorism. The stats?

About 1.3 million abortions are carried out in the US each year, almost 90% in the first trimester by vacuum aspiration. The number of partial birth abortions is unclear because of problems with definitions and the collection of statistics. Estimates are less than 1%, perhaps as low as 0.2%.

Thats a sick statistic...... equally sick is Barrack Obama... a champion to partial birth abortions. Torture, cruelty and outright murder.... all done in the name of choice. Whatever- the choice existed long before the baby. Some woman out there made the choice - now she wants another choice? What a sick society - by definition will be validated if you elect barry "I may be a christian, but it is hard to tell" Obama

Did you know that if McCain is elected you will have to pay income tax on the value of the medical insurance that your employer gives you? Worse still, he is offering a tax break for people who pay their own insurance, BUT only $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families.

Let's say you have a family of four. Your insurance policy costs would be at least $1,500-2,500 per month under a self-pay plan, which cost more than employer group plans. So, you pay $18,000 -$30,000 per year for insurance, and you get to deduct only $5,000 of that. If you paid $25,000 for you insurance, you would be out of pocket $20,000 per year. This is FAR WORSE than the current system, where if you are self employed you can deduct 100% of you medical insurance costs.

So, if you're not self employed, you would stick with your Employer's plan. Employer plans for a family of four have a value of $900-$1,500 per month totaling 10,800-$18,000 per year. Surprise! On April 15th, you owe tax on all of that as INCOME to you. Say your bracket is 25%, and the value of your Employer medical plan is $14,000. You will OWE THE IRS an additional $3,500, and that's ON TOP of whatever monthly premium you already pay to your employer for your insurance.

Many analysts say that McCain's new rules would encourage employers to stop offering health benefits. If that happened, then far fewer Americans would be insured than are insured today, because what family of four can afford $18,000-$30,000 out of pocket per year for self-pay health insurance?

Furthermore, McCain's plan does not require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions of people who self-pay their insurance. People under employer group plans have all of their pre-existing conditions covered. This is a hugely unfair aspect of the current system. Insurance companies can afford to cover the pre-existing conditions of the much larger pool of people with group insurance, but they refuse to pay the pre-existing conditions on the smaller pool of self-pay customers. They have been allowed to price gouge the self-pay customers, which is a form of market manipulation that should be illegal.

So let's say one of your kids had diabetes and you have high blood pressure, then your employer stops offering insurance. You now have to buy your own, but you and your child are INELIGIBLE due to pre-existing conditions. Oh, yeah, they will let you buy the insurance, but you can't use it for any pre-existing condition until you have paid on time every month for two years. And you know what happens at one year and 11 months? You get a letter saying your policy has been cancelled. I have many patients this has happened to.

McCain's plan SUCKS.

It does nothing to help middle class working Americans afford or obtain medical insurance. In fact, it makes the current system WORSE.

Thank you for your guidance, holy roller. We will ask them to not send money to the religious charities that you disdain. I take it that you do not like some of the churches in our country.