The Politics of Heroism

God I hope you people ain't old enough to vote. What kind of stupid childish remarks are you trying to make?

Obama lies, has no experience in real life situation, and you make fun of someone who was a prisoner of war! Is that what you do, sit around and judge all our P.O.W. and make light of what they went through. You make the judgement of how much they should have suffered. Unless you have been in their shoes, you have know right to judge the person. At least McCain is going to know what are solders are going to go through when they get home. You are very petty little people. If by some unGodly act in the universe Obama wins, you will get what you deserve. He will bite you in the ass and spit it out back in your faces.

The sad part about people like HolyRoller (and yes I am going against my moratorium for a second here) is that people will actually start to believe statements they say, given the power of internet and the general laziness of people to fact check.

No one but Obama and Larry Sinclair know the actual truth. So it is really a person's word vs another person's word. But I do know that Sinclair did *fail* a polygraph test. The greatest thing in the world for me would be for Obama to take a polygraph test and pass. Then all the HolyRoller's of the world would have to eat crow, shut their ignorant and hateful mouths, and find some other way to make a troll living.

Another sad part about all this is that people will actually believe these ads without doing due diligence, and those are the people that really shouldn't be able to vote. Sound bite politics -- isn't it grand?

This is journalism at its silliest. Clark merely stated what most people believe- that is being shot down in a plane and being a POW does not qualify anyone to be President of the United States. John McCain (like Bob Dole) is selling this as a reason he should be President. In fact, in John McCain's case, considering the torture he suffered at the hands of the Vietnamese, it should be of no surprise to anyone that he may have psychological issues that run deep. That would certainly explain some of his erratic behavior.

Making the statement that it's about "character and integrity" and that Mc Cain has them and Obama apparently doesn't clearly illustrates the problem with politics today. This brought on by Conservative Republicans and the likes of "Moneybags" Limbaugh, the Devil's spawn Sean Hannity and the shrew of the world Ann Coulter. There thesis is this: if you are for the war - you have integrity. If you are against the war you have no integrity. That's nauseous! People can love their country, wear lapel pins, and all that stuff and still have differing opinions as to what course our country should take. That's probably a 5th grade principle that has somehow been lost by the right wing crowd and the result is that, even though they have a microphone they are small, small people.

In response to Rush Limbaugh Jr. (Holy Roller) again: Mr. Roller states that Mr. Obama is "inexperienced, elitist, left-wing loon". Then a few sentences later he states that Mr. Obama is an "unknown". Well, which is it, Mr. Roller? Is he those things you mentioned or is he an uknown? You can't have it both ways. If I play your game I call Mc Cain a senile, liar, in bed with lobbyists and a former member of the Keating 5. Is that the way were going to play this election too? I thought Rove was off shilling for Fox News ("Fair and Balanced"). By the way, the only thing McCain can run on is his war record - because he wrong everything else: the war: oil - but not the economy since he's already confessed he knows nothing about economics and has to be "taught".

That's enough for me - on to bigger things. I have to go see if Britney wore panties today.

I understand and agree with Mc Cain's syayus as a war hero. However, I have sometimes wondered if being a prisoner might in some way give someone (I don't know how to put this) a "different" view of war. Might the past prisoner make decisions based upon his past experience? For example, negotiating for prsioners out of proportion so that some boys don't go through what he went through or, on the other hand, going overboard to find our prisoners. For example, perhaps threatening to "level a city" if 2 of our men aren't returned... It's difficult to say what I mean. But, no matter who the candidate, I have wondered if having been a prisoner isn't the good thing we all make it out to be.

To Holy Roller: By your insistence on calling Mr. Obama "HUssein" (a name he does noy go by), one can question your character. How many years have you served in public office? Second, I'll call Mr. McCain "Grandpa" from now one. (By the way - I have laways been a staunch independent. But I AM SO FED UP

I don???t buy this McCain ???war hero??? stuff for a second ??? and never did during Operation Homecoming when all these ???heroes??? were released. What???d they do ??? sat in a cell and got beat for 4, 5, 6 yrs. This qualifies as war hero status? (Are Gitmo POWs heroes?)

According to Veterans Affairs stats, 725 Americans were captured and interned. 64 of those POWs died (9%) ??? since 37 of those deaths were USMC & Army ??? ground (helicopter) troops who were held in the South in far worse conditions than the North ??? the pilot-POW death rate over, say, 5-yrs was about 1 POW every 2-months. Now, I wouldn???t want to be one of those guys who cashed in but with, about 1,000 ground-troopers dying a month in Vietnam combat operations during the same period, getting a good beating and a diet of bugs & broth may not have been so bad ??? and even that improved once you signed the statement acknowledging US criminal aggression. Which McCain signed (and I eventually would have also, no doubt).

Bottom line ??? I???m not buying this war hero stuff. + they got their big parade without enduring daily humps in the bush with landmines, snipers, ambushes and frequent pitched battles with a formidable enemy.

If John Kerry was a POW or MIA, that would be something different. Life as a POW under the Vietnamese was NOT comfy. Kerry only served what a total of 5 months in Vietnam? Kerry could never have survived 5 hours of torture, much less than 5 years. Unless you were there, you absolutely have NO comprehension of what a POW went through just to live another day or hour.

In WWII, the Germans went by the Geneva Convention. The Vietnamese did not. There was no Red Cross, no care packages, no "sanctioned" interrogation tactics.

Obama's mother's original Social Security Number Application

http://webofdeception.com/obamamother'sssapplication.html

"...At least McCain is going to know what are solders are going to go through when they get home"

How does going home to his rich, well connected family show him what some poor kid is going to go thru when he goes back to the South Bronx?

Nelson Mandela stated that the one incident that caused the Islamic Movement of 1979 was US's determination to reinstate the Shah of Iran, which was done under Jimmy Carter. The mastermind behind that is Zbigniew Brzezinski (Carter's National Security Adviser). Brzezinski was one of the CFR's to encourage Obama to run and is his main adviser on Foreign Affairs.

So if Brzezinski's actions gave birth to the Taliban and al Aqueda, doesn't that make HIM the Father of Terrorists? And, since Obama is following Brzenzinski's directions, doesn't that make HIM the BROTHER of Terrorists?