Veep in the Middle

schlang ,
No one cares nor believes in Larry Sinclair. He was sent to jail on a warrant for his arrest. I was one of those wrote to the COlorado police to come and get him. Stop spreading lies!

The issue of who Obama's VP choice is will pale in comparison to his "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan. Attention people: Birds of a Feather. And most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. McCain will win this election.

schlang,
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Nunn's prejudiced, backward ways is exactly what Obama ( and the country) does NOT need. Why are so many unimaginative pundits talking about Nunn? He is not photogenic. He is not charismatic or a good political speaker. He was never know for great, innovative thinking and has always been far too militaristic for the good of our country. Please don't tell me Obama is that desperate to win Georgia. Even if he is, there are better Georgians to choose than Nunn. Concerning VP candidates, I wouldn't go so far as to say none are worse than Nunn, but he is pretty high up on my NO WAY! list.

Comment: Sam who?? I guess some would find him charming and many would find him like Bush without the personality.

Here's a lazy-minded observation from a gay political observer. I actually don't care what Nunn's position on the study was (other than painting him as a son of the Old-Old South). What I do seem to remember was that his picque over not getting the Secretary of Defense job from Clinton caused him to light a fire under this issue (you know preserving his creds with the military leadership) which certainly created plenty of headaches for a new president of his own party. So much for team player.

Sam who?? I guess some would find him charming and many would find him like Bush without the personality.
). What I do seem to remember was that his picque over not getting the Secretary of Defense job from Cli
Here's a lazy-minded observation from a gay political observer. I actually don't care what Nunn's position on the study was (other than painting him as a son of the Old-Old Southnton caused him to light a fire under this issue (you know preserving his creds with the military leadership) which certainly created plenty of headaches for a new president of his own party. So much for team player.

As I have heard of Sam Nunn, I really didn???t know where his strengths were. So I googled up this article first to give me some background on this former senator.

Is he a good pick for Obama to have as a VP given Nunns strength in the area of National Security . . ? Although when reading thru this article, I found out he was considering a run for President this year which of course he ended up not pursuing. Which raises the question would he be satisfied as a VP?.

ARTICLE FROM RIGHT DEMOCRAT.com
Saturday, August 25, 2007

Sam Nunn left the U.S. Senate more than 10 years ago. Since then, the Georgia Democrat, who made his name nationally as a defense-minded hawk, has watched what???s happened to the country, and he???s more than a bit ticked ??? at the ???fiasco??? in Iraq, a federal budget spinning out of control, the lack of an honest energy policy, and a presidential contest that, he says, seems designed to thwart serious discussion of the looming crises.

Sam Nunn is still considered one of the foremost experts on national security.

Full article: http://rightdemocrat.blogspot.com/2007/08/sam-nunn-for-president.html

Choosing Sam Nunn is the one thing Obama could do that would not only keep me from voting for him, but cause me to consider McCain. I will not forget, nor will I forgive his roll in stopping Clinton from allowing gays to serve in the military openly as equal citizens. Don't-ask-don't-tell was the necessary evil to keep Nunn from leading a Congressional drive to outlaw gays in the military. If Nunn had had his way, simply being gay would not only have left service men and women court-martialed, but would have also landed them in jail. Unless he is willing to repudiate his actions and to pledge to campaign for both a complete lifting of the ban as well as the end of don't-ask-don't-tell Sam Nunn needs to just go away and stay there. I will never vote for Sam Nunn, even if it means McCain wins.

With all due respect, SKD, I really doubt that President Bush was actually trying to further any kind of democratic humanitarian agenda when he invaded Iraq. He SAID that his motive was the "weapons of mass destruction" but we all know that wasn't true, and he himself knew it wasn't true long before the American people knew. When you say you want to spread democracy and ease the suffering that man inflicts upon man, I respect those values tremendously. BUT if you are going to indulge in war in the name of nation-building, then I think you should start first in the places where (1) we can actually win, set up a democracy and make a difference, (2) there is already war or civil war going on and (3) we have the support of the international community in what we do. Iraq did not qualify in any of those categories. In fact, Somalia and Darfur were much more likely spots for us to go to work. And particularly Somalia, since the civil war there was created by AlQueda in a power-grab to further the spread of radical Islam in Africa. Whatever bad things can be said of Saddam (and there are plenty), he was NOT radical Islam. He was a dictator and sometimes ruthless, but he was very progressive when it came to religion. The nut-jobs like Hammas and AlQueda were exterminated in Iraq under Saddam, who ran probably the most progressive Muslim nation in the world, albeit with an iron hand.

Honestly, I think that Bush was after the oil in Iraq. And he is such a bungler, that we didn't even get it, since the Iraqis blew up the wells and refineries. All we got was Halliburton companies (owned by Cheney) getting richer, our dollar devalued, our economy in tatters, and the National Debt increased beyond measure. This is not nation-building, this is nation destruction. Destruction of America as well as of Iraq, and a shot in the arm for the terrorists.

Bush is an idiot.

If you want more of the same, vote for McCain.

Sam Nunn would be a FABULOUS Vice President.

The issue of who Obama's VP choice is will pale in comparison to Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright. And the good reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan. Birds of a feather....and most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters. Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. McCain will win this election.

Sam Nunn remines me of LBJ. Well connected and in the right place. Pass on Nunn enough of the hand shakes.

The problem with Sam Nunn lies in this question: can we be confident that he will maintain a disciplined tongue in not undermining the head of the ticket? In the 1992 cycle, it was Sam Nunn who derisively said of Bill Clinton that he has been "a rising star in the Democratic Party for three decades." That comment and his later prominently undermining Pres. Clinton on the gays in the military led to the feeling among many Clinton loyalists that Sen. Nunn looked down on the president and saw himself as imminently better qualified than Mr. Clinton to run the ship of state.

How can we be sure that Mr. Nunn doesn't have a similar attitude, in the end, toward Sen. Obama and, more critically, that he will be able to resist the temptation to let such derision and, potentially, condescension, show? Sure, a solid, centrist figure such as Sam Nunn could greatly bolster the greener, less credentialed, more exotic commodity that is Sen. Obama. But it bears recallinh that Sen. Lloyd Bentsen - at least the equal of Sen. Nunn in the ways Mr. Alter sells Sam Nunn to us now - was only able to do so much to help Mike Dukakis in what should have been a big Democratic year;.

We can thank Sam Nunn for the economy we have today. He, along with other neo-liberals and neo-conservatives, supported NAFTA (HR 3450 11/22/1993) and voted for membership in the World Trade Organization (HR 5110 12/1/1994). Because of our membership in WTO, we CANNOT have a law that requires all US flags flown on government buildings be MADE IN THE USA. (Not fair to China manufacturers).

Now, how un-American can you get?

Sen Lugar is an unsung "hero" in the political arena. He seems to be a fairly honest politician that truly is in politics for the betterment of the US and the world. Contrast him with people who are in politics for the betterment of themselves and the special interests that provided the money to get them elected. Sen. Lugar is very much respected here in Indiana. He seems to be a sincerely nice person who is dedicated to peace in our world.