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  • Posted By: rangerone314 @ 07/07/2008 12:40:17 PM

    Oops that didn't show up full link, here it is:
    moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx? PT=10&showchartbt=chart&compsyms=XOM%2CWMT%2CCVX%2CMSFT%2CKO&D4=1&DD=1&D5=0&DCS=2&MA0=0&MA1=0&CP=1&C5=4&C5D=1&C6=2003&C7=7&C7D=1&C8=2008&C9=2&CF=0&D7=&D6=&symbol=HAL

  • Posted By: OldGamer007 @ 07/07/2008 12:37:11 PM


    www.fuelcells.org

    The EU has made an alliance with companies and put 1.5 billion dollars towards fuel cell based cars and what they called hydrogen Highways. The DOE (Department of Energy) has put together a plan to do the same thing, which Obama backs (Check out "Know the candidates" on fuelcells.org)

    Being fuel cells are technology from the 70's, if our country doesn't get a clue and get it soon, the US will look like Bagdad Bob of the world when it comes to energy.

  • Posted By: rangerone314 @ 07/07/2008 12:29:07 PM

    http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx?PT=10&showchartbt=Redraw+chart&compsyms=XOM%2CWMT%2CCVX%2CMSFT%2CKO&D4=1&DD=1&D5=0&DCS=2&MA0=0&MA1=0&CP=1&C5=4&C5D=1&C6=2003&C7=7&C7D=1&C8=2008&C9=2&CF=0&D7=&D6=&symbol=HAL&nocookie=1&SZ=0

    That link is to msn's moneycentral's stock charts... This chart goes from April 2003 (Bush invaded Iraq) to now. The purple, green and orange lines at the bottom are Coca-Cola, Microsoft, and Walmart respectively showing about 30%, 5% and 0% stock rise in 5 years. The black, blue, and red lines are Halliburton (VP Cheney's company), Chevon (Condi Rice's company, where an oil tanker is named after her), and Exxon-Mobil respectively, showing 400%, 200%+ and 150% stock price increases in 5 years.

    Any questions about who's benefited from Bush's energy policy?

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 07/07/2008 12:22:39 PM

    Forget Bush - he has prostituted himself for Big Oil too many times, and has proven himself incompetent on too many other issues.

    McCain has few new ideas, nor does Obama seem to have many specifics.

    The real governmental push, if there is one, will come from congress. Unfortunately, given their inablity to get past their own propensity to prostitute themselves to Big Oil and other corporate lobbyies, the prospects of a new direction for American energy are dim.

  • Posted By: jdh1094 @ 07/07/2008 11:07:41 AM

    Bush hasn't been serious about energy in 8 years. What makes you think he's going to start now?

  • Posted By: panhandle @ 07/07/2008 10:56:41 AM

    The Bush Whitehouse is a wholly owned subsidiary of Big Oil. His slavish devotion to the oil companies supercedes any obligation to the American people. Beginning with Cheney's clandestine meeting to set energy policy, this administration has utterly failed us. I don't believe the President cares that I can't afford to buy gas and groceries. As a leader he is a failure. Yes, some progress is being made in the private sector, but any solution is going to be too late for me and for my family. I am going bankrupt trying to buy gas to get to work and groceries for my kids.

  • Posted By: lillea @ 07/07/2008 10:21:23 AM

    Most urban Americans have NO idea that America is making tremendous progress in the renewable area.
    Just travel across Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska and Kansas. It is amazing to see the HUGE wind farms in operation. This area is ideal for capturing the wind and turning it into energy!!!!
    Check out the UCLA campus ...they have been using a huge land fill to create gas to operate their heating and cooling units on campus.
    Come on, we ARE progressing. Get out of your little hole and check out all the innovative'energy operations around the nation.

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 07/07/2008 10:19:30 AM

    First the 100 mile per gallon car it within reach. Then the rest of the possibilities.Then it seems that we are serious.Not just Oil Corp.drone.who has a mortgage to pay and will put out the spin that we are doing something.

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