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A Spanish-language McCain radio ad gets nearly all its facts wrong.

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  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/16/2008 7:18:26 AM

    Those in Miliatary Knows, ..." MILITARY CODE"........WE are Brothers and Sisters in Military,We die for each Other s,Black,Hispanic,White........When you're discharge..from Miliatary.........YOU bastard Color

  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 7:25:50 PM

    Yeah judgment like voting NO for the NEW GI BILL, Hey Mr. McCain who are we suposed to be killing in Iraq, sunni or shia? What's a Kurd? And even though the US weapons inspectors said there were NO weapons, expolsives, or ammunition from Iran, and the latest NIE said Iran had backed away from uranium enrichment...why are you deterimined to take this country into another, a third war? Is it because of your "experience" and "Judgment"?

  • Posted By: Heresanovelidea @ 07/09/2008 5:01:30 PM

    I still think that there should be a 'None of the above' box on all ballots. Seriously. Three hundred million people in this country, and this is the best we can do?

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/09/2008 11:35:50 PM

      We could have had better, Hillary, after her McCain is the next best thing.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/11/2008 3:07:39 PM

        Oh isee tyhe pecking order...Bush....Hillary...McCain...Lieberman...The Devil...

        • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 12:59:38 PM

          No Obama is behind the Devil.

    • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 07/09/2008 5:22:31 PM

      Seriously, it's completely unpatriotic to not vote for someone. Anyone who says they're not going to vote are a disgrace to this great country. Our founding fathers would turn in their graves if they knew how many apathetic loosers aren't registered to vote or are too lazy to support their own great country. Where were you during the primaries? Did you get involved? Did you caucus or even vote? Did you donate any time or money for the candidate you supported or are you just now forming your opinion? Our troops have died in Iraq just so the Iraqi's could have the right to vote. Exercise your rights or the government might think you don't need them!

      • Posted By: Heresanovelidea @ 07/09/2008 5:52:21 PM

        I didn't say I wasn't going to vote, or that I'm not patriotic. I just think there has to be a better choice out there, someone that can get our country and economy back on the right track. I did vote in the primaries and I did donate money, not that it did any good. For some reason, most of the politicians I considered decent/electable at the beginning of the primaries got shoved off to the side while the press cooed and fawned over the first viable black and/or female candidate. I could care less what race, religion, sex, age that you are as a candidate. How are you going to fix my country? Honestly? Without changing your views to make you more electable? As for patriotism and supporting our troops, everyone shows each in a different way. Some people believe supporting our troops means not putting them in harms way while the country that they were there to liberate (which we did) melts down into a civil war. To be honest, I could care less whether the Iraqis have the right to vote. I care about my favorite cousin getting his butt blown off on his fourth tour of duty. I care about being able to pay for my home and put food on my table. I care about being able to afford to send my child to college when the time comes, assuming they don't reinstate the draft and send said child off to fight in some other country where the local ethnic groups/ideologies have been killing each other for a thousand years. I care about having to spend $120 every time I fill my truck up. If this makes me seem selfish or 'isolationist', so be it. I'm sure there are a lot of others out there as selfish as I am.

        • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 07/09/2008 6:19:54 PM

          I agree with you....I care about the same things. I think the only way to go is to vote for the party that fights for the same things you care about. Not the party that wants to line the pockets of the corporations, pharmecuticals (spelling), insurance companies and BIG oil. I just can't stand it when people say "I don't like either candidate so I am not going to vote." I think that is a cop out. Your vote for president shouldn't be based on who you want to sit and have a beer with. It's about what's right for our country. I could also care less about Iraqi's voting. Our school system is deteriorating so rapidly that I am very worried about who is going to run this country when I get older when no one will be able to put a sentence together, much less defend our constitution. It's pretty scary. We should be coming together as Americans and not hating each other over a politcal race. A difference in policy does not mean you love your country less!

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/09/2008 5:42:24 PM

      I agree with you MCCAIN totally SUCKS and is a continuation of BUSH, NO MORE WAR FOR OIL!

  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/11/2008 10:49:10 PM

    OMG Look at what CornHolyO posted...it's amazing...

    Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/11/2008 21:56:41
    Comment: 4+ a gallon. If Israel bombs Iran US gets involved, McBushes wet dream, except we have NO military to support a third war, more of our children die, which if fine with McCain as he does not support them anyway oh yeah, soon 7-8/gallon.

    McCain-Killing and Drilling now
    "Handsome"-kNOws it will have no immediate effect on prices and infact would take years and caot billions to even get to, cost passed on to the US in dollars on the gallon, and if there ever was oil found, NO promise from any of the US oil folks to NEVER RAISE PRICES AGAIN ABOVE 1$ a gal.

    McCain-Nucular Energy Plants Now but also thinks that NE plants have root and grow in the ground
    "Handsome"- tells George Bush the word is NUCLEAR...

    McCain-Clean Coal Energy Now, thinks this means polishing all the little pieces of coal, insists this would be a great job for illegals.
    "Handsom"-NO problem with it at all, unless you ask Sean Hannity.

    McCain-Shale Oil Now, thinks that Shale is another faction of epople from Iraq, sunni Shia, Shale, and "What the hell is a Kurd."
    "Handsome"-NO problem here either, wow he's on the ball.

    McCain-Independent from Middle East Oil or stay in Iraq for 100 yrs? What ever comes first
    Hussein-kNOws, they are out of oil in Saudi in 2015, let them dry up and blow away. along with the oil a$$es here.

    McCain-American Hero, crashed 5 fighters before being shot down, cried "my daddy is an admiral" when he was caught, willingly did 32 propagnada films for the VC, earning the nickname ":Song Bird" (google it)because as soon as he was caught he started singing for the enemy, lied to America's POWs when he said he wouild never politicize his status as a "pow", and then never stopped doing it. Turned his back on our troops on the recent GI Bill Vote, where he no showed and no voted because he was to afraid to face the music and just vote against it...my hero.
    Hussein-Not only out of power but DEAD and even though that was our "mission" we are still in Iraq and our children are still sying,

    NOTHINGLIKEOBAMA!!!
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    WOW! What a statement, good for you ConrHolyO, way to go...glad to see you come around

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/10/2008 1:19:32 PM

    This ad targeting Latinos in Florida is typical McCain double speak. He puts out a bunch of "facts" and figures, all of which are WRONG. He knows they are wrong, but he doesn't care, because McCain knows that his media image is more important than the truth.

    For instance, McCain claims to be in favor of revising immigration laws in ways favorable to illegal immigrants for Mexico. He goes on TV and says so, people hear him say it and assume that is what he believes. BUT when bills come before Congress pertaining to immigration, McCain abstains form voting. He refuses to vote for the bills he says he is supporting.

    Let's look at McCain's votes on March 13 and 14, 2008. On those days we know he was present, because he voted on 22 bills. But he refused to vote on 22 other bills. He failed to vote on several bills concerning border security, alien removal and English in the workplace, even though he has set himself up as the candidate who wants immigration reform favorable to Hispanics. He also failed to vote on the bills regarding efficient energy production, even though he claims to be in favor of this. He must not be very much in favor of efficient energy and immigration reform since he refused to vote even though he was present. As for Obama and Clinton, they were both present those days, and they both voted on all 44 bills.

    McCain knows that public perception is all that matters, so he gives a news conference and says he supports certain issues, even though he refuses to vote in favor of them. He knows that most Americans never take the time to look up his voting record, and he makes sure that his Senate web page doesn't include this information. Obama's Senate web page contains a link that shows you how he voted on every single bill before the Senate, but for McCain you have to find this information on other websites, like this one from the Washington Post:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/votes/

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/11/2008 12:40:30 AM

      Just in case you happened to see the ABC News piece
      (if you watch ABC News) with interviews of 5 military folks in Iraq - 3
      planned to vote for Obama and 2 for Hillary; no mention of any McCain
      supporters. Well, here???s the ???Rest of the Story.???



      This from Major General (ret) Buckman


      My niece, Katelyn, stationed at Baluud , Iraq was assigned, with others of her detachment, to be escort/guard/ watcher for Martha Raddatz of ABC News as she covered John McCain???s recent trip to Iraq



      Katelyn and her Captain stood directly behind Raddatz as she queried GI???s walking past. They kept count of the GI???s and you should remember these numbers. She asked 60 GI???s who they planned to vote for in November. 54 said John McCain, 4 for Obama and 2 for Hillary.



      Katelyn called home and told her Mom and Dad to watch ABC news the next night because she was standing directly behind Raddatz and maybe they???d see her on TV. Mom and Dad of course, called and emailed all the kinfolk to watch the newscast and maybe see Katelyn.



      Well, of course, we all watched and what we saw wasn???t a glimpse of Katelyn, but got a hell???uva view of skewed news. After a dissertation on McCain???s trip and speech, ABC showed 5 GI???s being asked by Raddatz how they were going to vote in November; 3 for Obama and 2 for Clinton .. No mention of the 54 for McCain.

      See I can do it too.

  • Posted By: kgundi @ 07/09/2008 1:56:22 PM

    This is great stuff. Our candidates need to be taken to task when they try to mislead anybody. I just hope that factcheck.org is keeping the same kind of tabs on Mr. Deceit himself, Obama.

    • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 07/09/2008 5:43:46 PM

      Why don't you go to Factcheck.org yourself....there is even a link on the first page of this article. Yeah, Obama has some items on there, but there are MANY more lies coming from McCain.

      http://www.factcheck.org/

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/09/2008 9:31:25 PM

        Ha ha oh yeah Obama has a lot on there don't try to down play it.

        • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 07/10/2008 11:23:08 AM

          In fact, McCain has TWICE as many as Obama on the first page..... 4 gaffes for Obama and 8 OUTRITE LIES for McCain. Obama's gaffes are about his resume and how he worked through college, and he lied about how much lobby money the McCain camp gets. McCains lies are about Obama, and about his own voting records, and are also from the RNC lying about Obama's voting record - things that can easily be checked out. Who cares if Obama fluffed his resume or didn't work his entire way through college but got some help? Really. I love how that new add says "McCain sounded the alarm on global warming." That's the funniest shi*t I have ever heard. All you repugs have been calling Al Gore insane ever since HE sounded the alarm so many years ago and now all of a sudden McCain's taking credit. What a crock!! You're definitely a zombie, go drink some more koolaid.

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 6:56:22 PM

            You call it gaffe, I call them lies. Semantics right. Obama lies just like every other typical politician. Just face it, all the hope and change rhetoric that got ya, was all false. You are supporting Obama because he lied to you, yet you still refuse to question him.
            Yes who cares that Obama lied about his resume....people like you don't want any qualifications as long as he can speak pretty right?
            Al Gore is a lier and McCain is pandering to the left with his Global Warming scare....why is it that in the last issue of Nature, the cover article was about the next ten years of Global Cooling? Those are scientists not politicians. If you want to believe what a politician tells you, then there is no hope for you.
            On an aside...is LV meaning your from Vegas? Just curious cause so am I and I voted against Ensign and voted for Reid last election.

  • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 4:48:41 AM

    Just in case you happened to see the ABC News piece
    (if you watch ABC News) with interviews of 5 military folks in Iraq - 3
    planned to vote for Obama and 2 for Hillary; no mention of any McCain
    supporters. Well, here???s the ???Rest of the Story.???



    This from Major General (ret) Buckman


    My niece, Katelyn, stationed at Baluud , Iraq was assigned, with others of her detachment, to be escort/guard/ watcher for Martha Raddatz of ABC News as she covered John McCain???s recent trip to Iraq



    Katelyn and her Captain stood directly behind Raddatz as she queried GI???s walking past. They kept count of the GI???s and you should remember these numbers. She asked 60 GI???s who they planned to vote for in November. 54 said John McCain, 4 for Obama and 2 for Hillary.



    Katelyn called home and told her Mom and Dad to watch ABC news the next night because she was standing directly behind Raddatz and maybe they???d see her on TV. Mom and Dad of course, called and emailed all the kinfolk to watch the newscast and maybe see Katelyn.



    Well, of course, we all watched and what we saw wasn???t a glimpse of Katelyn, but got a hell???uva view of skewed news. After a dissertation on McCain???s trip and speech, ABC showed 5 GI???s being asked by Raddatz how they were going to vote in November; 3 for Obama and 2 for Clinton .. No mention of the 54 for McCain.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 07/10/2008 1:18:44 PM

      Dear Zombie, IF THIS IS EVEN TRUE (which I seriously doubt, considering you are posting it -- sorry -- but you post so many lie filled smears that it becomes impossible to believe you), but IF this is true do you know what it reminds me of? Did you see the coverage of the elections in Zimbabwe, where armed guards had voters locked in a room, told them to vote for Mugabe, then looked over their shoulder as they filled out the ballots.

      Yeah, Right. McCain is in Iraq and a group of soldiers are asked who they are going to vote for, in front of him. Lots of factors at work here. Firstly, the soldiers in that group are picked for this photo op, and they probably were picked because they support McCain. Also, herd mentality and politeness both would account for the "results" you report. IF it is even true.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 6:51:23 PM

        Are you still mad cause I called you out on your other lie on the other Factcheck article?
        It's ok I don't hold a grudge and I forgive you.
        Like you have any room to talk, your copy/paste jihad's against McCain are full of misinformation and cover-ups.

        So now McCain is forcing those soldiers under duress to vote for him? Is that what your trying to infer?
        So if they were picked because they supported McCain, why did ABC only show soldiers supporting Obama and Clinton? Oh yes even IF its true...just like all your posts.

  • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/10/2008 12:15:30 PM

    McWar doesn't need to use facts! He was in a war.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/10/2008 12:52:12 AM

    This ad targeting Latinos in Florida is typical McCain double speak. He puts out a bunch of "facts" and figures, all of which are WRONG. He knows they are wrong, but he doesn't care, because McCain knows that his media image is more important than the truth.

    For instance, McCain claims to be in favor of revising immigration laws in ways favorable to illegal immigrants for Mexico. He goes on TV and says so, people hear him say it and assume that is what he believes. BUT when bills come before Congress pertaining to immigration, McCain abstains form voting. He refuses to vote for the bills he says he is supporting.

    Let's look at McCain's votes on March 13 and 14, 2008. On those days we know he was present, because he voted on 22 bills. But he refused to vote on 22 other bills. He failed to vote on several bills concerning border security, alien removal and English in the workplace, even though he has set himself up as the candidate who wants immigration reform favorable to Hispanics. He also failed to vote on the bills regarding efficient energy production, even though he claims to be in favor of this. He must not be very much in favor of efficient energy and immigration reform since he refused to vote even though he was present. As for Obama and Clinton, they were both present those days, and they both voted on all 44 bills.

    McCain knows that public perception is all that matters, so he gives a news conference and says he supports certain issues, even though he refuses to vote in favor of them. He knows that most Americans never take the time to look up his voting record, and he makes sure that his Senate web page doesn't include this information. Obama's Senate web page contains a link that shows you how he voted on every single bill before the Senate, but for McCain you have to find this information on other websites, like this one from the Washington Post:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/votes/

  • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/09/2008 11:28:01 PM

    "To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."

    H.R. 6304 (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 )
    Measure Title: A bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to establish a procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence, and for other purposes.

    Obama (D-IL), Yea

    Clinton (D-NY), Nay

  • Posted By: ddonahue99 @ 07/09/2008 2:30:02 PM

    So McCain is either a liar or he is so incompetent that he can't get the numbers correct. I'm tired of lying and/or incompetent politicians so he doesn't get my vote.

    • Posted By: ArmyWife2/3inf @ 07/09/2008 2:56:56 PM

      Sir, I think you are extremely mistaken in the fact of Sen. McCain being incompetent. He is one of the very few Senators who have been consistent in their voting. Sen. Obama, has not. Sen. Obama has not even been present for any of the major votes in the Senate. Thus, he has no experience. If you think that you could do much better, why don't you run?

      hankfm6: Sir, my husband is an Iraq veteran. And I find it completely asinine that you are calling the men who lead him and his troops, criminals. Are you a veteran? This Iraq war is a volunteer Army there sir. If you have never served in the Armed Forces, or been to one of the torture chambers in Iraq, then I would suggest you shut your mouth. And my questions are if you know Obama will make mistakes (the first being that he will pull all of the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, which will only make the terrorist groups Al Qaeda and Hezbollah feel like they are winning this war, and regroup to plan more attacks on our soil) then why will you sit here and crucify our political leaders? In case you have forgotten, our country was set up on a system of checks and balances... which means that no single person has total control over anything in our politics. If you are going to sit here and just blame a president, or a single senator, maybe you should pick up a history book or an American Government book on the way the system works. It's people like you that are raising a bunch of worthless children who won't stand up and defend their country, protect their freedom, and their future children's freedoms. What sacrifices have you had to made because of this war (rising gas prices don't count)? I would honestly like to know how many of your friends have died over in Iraq and Afghanistan? I would also like to know how you felt knowing that your husband was deployed WILLINGLY in a hostile enviroment, worrying about him everyday, hoping to get a call, because it's protecting our FREEDOM. I would much rather have a war fought in a foreign land then an event like Sept 11, 2001 EVER happen again on our HOME SOIL.

      I would also like to ask if you could think back to the day of Sept 11,2001. Think about the things that happened in our country and the way you felt that day. The anxiety, horror, upset, confusion. Then think about feeling that every day... You should also try to read a book by one of the people that Saddam Hussein's Bathist Regime tortured.

      Maybe then you can understand why we are fighting a war over there. Just think of your family member being tortured for something such as being a woman, or a different religion then others.

      I hope you support your troops. Because without them, sir you would not be able to post your thoughts here without fear of persecution and or death.

      May God Bless You (if I can even say that in a post to a liberal) and to all the Troops that are reading this and their Families, I understand why you are fighting. And thank you for serving, and risking your life for

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/09/2008 5:57:54 PM

        Well there are SO many things wrong with what you have just said, I don't know where to begin.

        1. You speak of McConsistancy, in the past 2 years he has been present for less than half of the votes.
        INCLUDING NOT SUPPOPRTING YOU OR YOUR HUSBAND when he noshowed/no voted Bill# S22 aka"THE NEW GI BILL, this is you man of consistancy?
        The only thing consistant about McCain is the fact that he is CONSTANTLY CHANGING HIS POSITION.
        and is CONSTANTLY confused about who is who in Iraq, hell, when asked what he thought of the "Kurds" he responded "WHAT THE HELL IS A KURD!"

        2. 911 had NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOT IT!?
        This conutry WAS united when we went to Afghanistan ti kill those who attacked us. We devided when BUSHand MCCAIN took us to IRAQ to war with a country that has NEVER ATTACKED THE US. If your so concerned what aboutthe Congo, or Dar Fur? Much more violence there, I mean we could have gotten to Iraq but if it was to help peole in peril, there are far worse places then IRAQ mam.

        3.As far as the "troop support" should'nt that standard be held to the man you want for president? Also I hope YOU undrstand the ultimate SUPPORT of troops is not wanting them in harms way, especially not for OIL! That is it, the only resaon we are in Iraq, Believe what you like to make yourself sleep better, but that is the reason, that alone.
        4. As far as you "if Ican even say that in a psot to a liberal" comment, F@#K YOU! You think you think those who have sent our sons and daughters tro DIE FOR OIL know God? You think you do? The right has destroyed all the Jesus and our God have ever stood for, twisted it and used it to manipulate the sheep of the country.
        So MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU when you stand to be judged, because you surely do not follow him.

        Good day ;)

      • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 07/09/2008 5:39:13 PM

        Ma'am. Without the criminals in the White House, your husband may not have ever gone to Iraq to serve. You must understand that people can support the troops and not the lying warmongers who put them in harms way to begin with. The troops make the ultimate sacrifice to so honorably and bravely defend our great nation, and they never question the reasoning. That is why their service is so appreciated by the citizens of this country and unfortunately ignored by the very men you say "lead" them into this war.

        Also, please do your husband a favor and get informed as to why the US invaded Iraq in the first place. Nothing to do with 9-11. And may God Bless you and yours - coming from a god loving (not fearing) LIBERAL. If the word offends you, you don't know what it means.

  • Posted By: hestia_m @ 07/08/2008 9:59:08 PM

    It's a shame that the McCain campaign didn't take the trouble to get the correct statistics, because the issue,of free trade is one that merits a rational discussion. In the big picture, I don't think it matters whether Columbia's share of one particular state's exports is 50% or 75%.. The important thing is whether the agreement is a net win for the US. We needn't quibble about details, but McCain's error is a distraction. Too bad.

    • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 07/09/2008 5:05:25 PM

      Colombia's share of Florida's export trade is NEITHER 50% nor 75%, but only a fraction of that... which suggests how misleading the McCain claims were... inferring from the stats offered, Colombia's slice is some FRACTION of 53% (53% being total Florida exports to ALL of Latin America AND the Carrib combined). Exactly how big Colombia's portion of this is was never stated, but considering Florida's trade with other relative giants, Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, along with the host of smaller players, from Panama and Uruguay to Costa Rica and Puerto Rico, its hard to imagine that Colombia buys more than 5-10% of Florida's exports by itself. And one wonders, of that portion, how much was funded by cocaine?

  • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 07/09/2008 4:57:32 PM

    Notice how generous some folks are with their assumptions, when it comes to giving their partisan fellows a pass? "The Statistics used obviously included goods passing through Florida Ports from other state and countries".... Well, obviously. Obviously? There is no statistical evidence offered to make this excuse even plausible, much less true, or "obvious". More likely, McBush is simply following his role model, who never seemed to care if his assertions were true, so long as they were accepted long enough to permit him to do what he wanted (such as invading Iraq).

  • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 07/09/2008 4:39:15 PM

    Across the country people are laughing at the flailing GOP. Around the water coolers...people are wondering, "why would anyone vote for McFossil"? Oh, because they're ignorant and uninformed and just started paying attention 5 minutes ago. Or, they're racists fascists who support corporte welfare. People keep saying Obama is going to tax everyone and give money to the poor so they don't have to work? It's beyond ignorant. It's widely known that McCain's plan gives the most tax cuts to people who earn 2.8 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OR MORE! And that middle class families will see about $300 more per year. Under Obama's plan, working middle class families will see about $1,000 more per year. Besides, what kind of naive moron thinks taxes aren't going to be raised during a WAR? Maybe if people paid a few extra dollars in taxes the government could maintain bridges, levees and the like, and the government could work for us which is why the government exists. Gotta give the repugnant ones some credit for somehow getting people to believe that Democrats raise taxes to support people on welfare. All the while they cut taxes for millionaires, which is welfare for rich people. It's a good thing that people actually can think for themselves and have the internet research FACTS!

  • Posted By: delfairchild @ 07/09/2008 4:05:44 PM

    That is still a lot money going through Florida that puts a lot of food on the table for Floridian families.

  • Posted By: Natiwhat @ 07/09/2008 3:31:42 PM

    Armywife, you make a few valid points, but seem a bit hysterical. Raise worthless children? Wow - way to discount them before they've had a chance to prove anything. I would argue that there are many ways to measure the "worth" of someone, and backing a particular political point of view should NOT be one of them. Otherwise I may just find you and yours to be worthless, which is a condemnation I wouldn't presume to spew based on my stance on one war in the history of one country.

    I also find it hard to connect your logic. Does having a lot of friends die in Iraq mean that you are more patriotic than someone else? If that's the case, then the people who got us into Iraq are likely the least patriotic people around. Do you think GWB and company have a lot of close friends who have fought and died? They wouldn't fight when it was their turn, and yet you apparently support them despite that being a crucial litmus test for patriotism in your book. And if only people who have "been to one of the torture chambers in Iraq" are allowed to comment on the war, then we are truly getting a very sad perspective on this conflict. Lastly, of course, you sadly still connect the events of 9/11 to the war in Iraq, which has been disproven time and time again. Non-sequiter, non-sequiter, non-sequiter.

    The most logical thing that I read in your diatribe was God bless you. Yes you can say it to a liberal, if you can for a moment condescend to us and our unpatriotic godless ways. God bless you too.

  • Posted By: jre1053 @ 07/09/2008 3:10:09 PM

    The Statistics used obviously included goods passing through Florida Ports from other state and countries. I disagree that these numbers are not critical to the Florida Economy as it requires the construction of port infastructure to move these goods and this increases employment, stevedors to load and unload these goods, warehouses and terminals to store the goods as well as port, security and trucking services. Both positions are right and both are wrong.depending on how the "facts" are viewed.

    Jim Edwards

  • Posted By: itsumo @ 07/09/2008 2:53:38 PM

    Oh, give Old Man McCain a break. Dementia is probably starting to set in. If you think his so called facts are bad now, watch what happens if he is elected.

  • Posted By: gwinegarden @ 07/09/2008 2:50:23 PM

    Facts? Who needs facts? Just do what many do, like Bill O'Reilly, make things up on the fly.

  • Posted By: redheaded blue girl @ 07/09/2008 2:50:08 PM

    Liar Liar Depends on Fire.

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