Ghosts of Politics Past

Obama's Denver plan is a historic but risky gambit.

 
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  • Posted By: malamo1000 @ 07/11/2008 5:11:09 PM

    Comment: Why is this a-hole so liberal. He thinks Obama is going to be are next president. He better read between the lines. If Obama is elected we will have another 911.

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 07/11/2008 1:32:36 PM

    Comment: Obama at the Brandenburg Gate!!!! Is there no end to his insolence? Can you imagine Obama giving a speech at Omaha Beach? Can you imagine him at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? At Pearl Harbor? Can you imagine him with his air of detachment, and elitism at Ground Zero? Can you imagine him addressing the nation's finest at West Point? Can you?

  • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/11/2008 11:57:58 AM

    Comment: Maybe Obama will also steal JFK's nomination speech word for word. Obama might have Ted and Caroline's permission. Obama already did it to Deval Patrick and got away with it.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/11/2008 10:22:39 AM

    Comment: Friday, July 11, 2008
    The race for the White House is getting a bit closer. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama???s lead over John McCain down to a statistically insignificant single percentage point, 43% to 42%. Prior to today, Obama had enjoyed at least a four-point advantage every day since Hillary Clinton dropped out of the race over a month ago. This is the first time his support has fallen below the 45% level since May 31.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: steve02001 @ 07/11/2008 1:43:54 PM

      Comment: Of course you conveniantly fail to note that in Rasmussen's same poll, "When "leaners" are included, Obama leads 47% to 45%." And the recent Gallup poll has Obama up 48 to 42, Pew Reserach's poll has it 48-40 Obama. The RCP average has Obama up 48 to 42.5, with the trend going up for Obama: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html. So much for your rant, get your facts straight.
      OBAMA 2008, MCCAIN IS TOAST!!

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/11/2008 5:54:11 PM

        Comment: You are so silly. Even NewsWeak's got it down to 3 pts. Fading fast. After his Nazi Party style acceptence speech, it will be over fast. Better than the Electric Chair. Quicker too.

        Hussein Obama LOVES America...Just like O.J. LOVED Nicole..............

        NOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: steve02001 @ 07/11/2008 7:53:23 PM

          Comment: Man you are one sick puppy. I don't know what is worst, your blatant racist remarks or your blatant stupidity; toss up.

  • Posted By: holly berry @ 07/10/2008 6:15:16 PM

    Comment: teddyo: Your tongue in cheek comments aside, i do hope you will be present when Obama accepts the nomination. It will be great fun whether he wins or loses.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 8:57:13 PM

      Comment: It will be great fun weather he wins or loses? Ha ha, no it won't when Obama loses there will be riots. If Obama wins there will be more war....only this time with Iran.

  • Posted By: teddyo @ 07/10/2008 5:08:53 PM

    Comment: I can't wait to be there so I can tell my Great Grands how it felt. My eyes are getting teary already.

  • Posted By: holly berry @ 07/10/2008 5:04:46 PM

    Comment: I was fifteen years old when Kennedy was elected and since my father was active in Democratic Party politics was present as a spectator in Los Angeles when he was nominated. My parents admired JFK but for different reasons than many who now look back on history. They were pragmatists and the Kennedys and their "Irish Mafia" as they were then called were noted for their ruthlessness and "win at any cost" tactics. My father did find Bobby a little too brutal but my mother always thought JFK let him be the front guy for the hard work so JFK could be the hero. Anyway, they thought JFK could match Nixon for mean and so could win and he did. JFK was actually a pretty lackluster president. The Peace Corps was his one really big accomplishment and the Cuban Missile Crisis was really handled by others back stage though JFK had the sense to let them do it. Old clumsy, crude LBJ was the guy who really got the progressive legislation through but Kennedy was handsome with a beautiful wife and he played to the press corps so he got great press and he was a martyr so all these years later he is the hero and poor old Johnson is remembered for his bungling with Vietnam.

  • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 4:42:25 PM

    Comment: The mainstream working class doesn't want a handout.

    We want to be able to proudly provide for our family. We want good pay for an honest day's work. We want the prices of food, gas, shelter, clothing, and medical costs to be inline with our earnings. We want to send our children to college, not on the government's (taxpayers) dime, but affordable. We do not want to become dependent on the government for basic survival. We want to the ability to make our own choices, but we do not want to have to choose between gas - or food - or medicine, because we can only afford 1 and not all 3.

    For the neoliberals who decided decades ago that the US needed to move from a manufacturing economy to a service related economy - GOD MADE US ALL DIFFERENT. Not everyone can analyze stock trends, or invent new medicines. Some of us were given talents of building and making things with our hands. With every manufacturing plant that closed in the 70's up, thousands of workers were no longer able to support their families. Retraining - with the sheer number of less jobs, how do those thousands compete with the "new crop" of graduates entering the labor field? Multiply this situation by thousands of plants leaving our country. Then, add in the importation of foreign workers (H-1B visas) and the illegal immigrants, all vying for the same limited number of jobs. Economics 101: Supply and demand. The supply of eligible workers increased greater than the number of jobs available. Wages go down. Benefits are eliminated. And, the supply of workers continually increases with each additional birth, each additional Visa issued, each additional illegal to cross our border.

    It was and still is the neoliberals who are MOST in favor of free trade policies, NAFTA, the World Trade Organization, GLOBALIZATION. The more workers available, the cheaper the wages, the more income the elitists earn.

  • Posted By: Chloe123 @ 07/10/2008 8:36:42 AM

    Comment: So what is the case for McCain?

    No candidate for President since Wendell Wilkie in 1940 has had as little relevant experience before running for President as Barack Obama. The Illinois Senator served for 8 years, in a generally undistinguished fashion, in the Illinois legislature. He was best known for voting present more often than any other State Senator. When the Democrats took over the Legislature the last two years he served, Obama worked out a deal with the Democratic leader, Emil Jones, to get his name on some bills so he could buff up his resume before running for the open US Senate seat.

    In the US Senate, Obama missed many votes in his first term even before he launched his Presidential bid, as he traveled the country speaking to Democratic Party events (and positioning himself with activists for a future Presidential run). Since the campaign began, he has missed virtually all Senate votes and failed to hold meetings of his own subcommittee. So the Obama record is very thin.

    His major campaign themes have been lofty messages of change and hope and bipartisan unity. This is a smart course to take, when you have little to show for your years in public office. McCain needs to focus on Obama''s record of scant legislative accomplishment and inexperience. What has Barack Obama done, as opposed to claiming to have done?

    • Posted By: the-commish @ 07/10/2008 8:31:10 PM

      Comment: "In the U.S. Senate, Obama missed many votes in his first term even before he launched his Presidential bid..."

      That is true! Howvere, put it in context... McCain missed even more votes than Obama. That is a FACT!

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 8:58:33 PM

        Comment: Because he has been in Congress for longer than Obama was with Trinity United....how many sermons did Obama miss? Oh yeah only the bad ones right?

    • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 11:47:09 AM

      Comment: .............WELL..................MAYBE RACK UP POLL #'S GOOD ENOUGH TO CRUISE TO THE OVAL OFFICE....PERHAPS?

      • Posted By: teddyo @ 07/10/2008 5:12:50 PM

        Comment: look what "experience" got US. can you say CHANGE

      • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 3:31:10 PM

        Comment: Any chance you could take off the CAPS LOCK?

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 9:44:00 AM

      Comment: People said the same thing about Lincoln, and he ended up being one of the best Presidents in history. Experience isn't always most important, especially when you look at today's political system. Experience in what? Deceit, lies, and selfish greed? I'll pass, thanks.

      • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 3:36:09 PM

        Comment: What people said the same things about Lincoln? Were you at the Lincoln-Douglas Debates? If you'll remember, not everyone loved Lincoln (J.W. Booth). 50% of the country still didn't agree with him after the war, but they had to go along with it because they lost the war. If the South had won, Lincoln would be consisdered a loser..

      • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 10:17:58 AM

        Comment: You are right. The standards for POTUS drops with every administration change.

        Since Nixon, we have had a CROOK, a CLUTZ, a PEANUT FARMER, an ACTOR, a FAULTY MEMORY, a WOMANIZER, and a PUPPET.

        And now we have an OLD GUY against a LYING PUPPET WHO CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LINES.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 2:04:56 PM

          Comment: So, uh, let's all move to Canada? Lol. I don't know what the solution is, maybe we need to toss the two parties both out and just LISTEN to candidates and make our own informed decisions instead of swearing blind allegiance to one party, for better or worse. However, that would require your average American to get off their lazy duffs and do something more than drool in front of reality tv...

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 9:00:04 PM

            Comment: Screw Canada I'm going to Mexico, Cabo, Cancun, or Cozemel.
            Mexico has better beer and better food and better History. Canada is full of moose and ice.

            • Posted By: loriw @ 07/10/2008 10:58:55 PM

              Comment: Canada has beautiful lakes and shoreline, has great skiing and french cuisine. They speak English!
              I happen to like moose.

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/11/2008 4:03:59 AM

                Comment: Nope still don't like em. Sorry.

          • Posted By: repub4obama @ 07/10/2008 3:18:47 PM

            Comment: It's happening now many republicans and democrats are going to the independant side nowadays in greater numbers, especially on the republican side recently.

            • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 3:55:52 PM

              Comment: It's happening in great numbers on both sides. The Democratic Congress has a 9% approval rating, the all-time lowest. And, it has nothing to do with not having an absolute majority. It has to do with inactivity.

              When the Democrats are more concerned with trying to subject sovereign OPEC nations to US law than they are in closing the Enron Loophole - which would provide an immediate drop in the price of gas - they deserve the low rating.

              I'd like to know who comprises the 9% in favor - that is outside of themselves, family, the Bush administration and lobbyists.

              The time is so right for a good centrist populist party to spring forth. I keep thinking that there is still time before November for a decent third party or independent candidate to come forth and rescue us from the gripsof and destruction of our economy by the neoliberals and the neoconservatives (who are in bed with each other).

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/10/2008 1:31:46 AM

    Comment: Did you know that if McCain is elected you will have to pay income tax on the value of the medical insurance that your employer gives you? Worse still, he is offering a tax break for people who pay their own insurance, BUT only $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families.

    Let's say you have a family of four. Your insurance policy costs would be at least $1,500-2,500 per month under a self-pay plan, which cost more than employer group plans. So, you pay $18,000 -$30,000 per year for insurance, and you get to deduct only $5,000 of that. If you paid $25,000 for you insurance, you would be out of pocket $20,000 per year. This is FAR WORSE than the current system, where if you are self employed you can deduct 100% of you medical insurance costs.

    So, if you're not self employed, you would stick with your Employer's plan. Employer plans for a family of four have a value of $900-$1,500 per month totaling 10,800-$18,000 per year. Surprise! On April 15th, you owe tax on all of that as INCOME to you. Say your bracket is 25%, and the value of your Employer medical plan is $14,000. You will OWE THE IRS an additional $3,500, and that's ON TOP of whatever monthly premium you already pay to your employer for your insurance.

    Many analysts say that McCain's new rules would encourage employers to stop offering health benefits. If that happened, then far fewer Americans would be insured than are insured today, because what family of four can afford $18,000-$30,000 out of pocket per year for self-pay health insurance?

    Furthermore, McCain's plan does not require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions of people who self-pay their insurance. People under employer group plans have all of their pre-existing conditions covered. This is a hugely unfair aspect of the current system. Insurance companies can afford to cover the pre-existing conditions of the much larger pool of people with group insurance, but they refuse to pay the pre-existing conditions on the smaller pool of self-pay customers. They have been allowed to price gouge the self-pay customers, which is a form of market manipulation that should be illegal.

    So let's say one of your kids had diabetes and you have high blood pressure, then your employer stops offering insurance. You now have to buy your own, but you and your child are INELIGIBLE due to pre-existing conditions. Oh, yeah, they will let you buy the insurance, but you can't use it for any pre-existing condition until you have paid on time every month for two years. And you know what happens at one year and 11 months? You get a letter saying your policy has been cancelled. I have many patients this has happened to.

    McCain's plan SUCKS.

    It does nothing to help middle class working Americans afford or obtain medical insurance. In fact, it makes the current system WORSE.

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/29/mccain_unveils_health_care_pla.html?nav=rss_email/components

    • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 07/10/2008 11:44:13 AM

      Comment: I'm calling you out NINS, since you refuse to answer me.
      You have said numerous times that you've been a Republican for many years, but have decided to support Obama. I have said I do not believe you, and find it hard to believe you've swerved so hard to the left.
      You stated in a recent post that you raised funds for "Bush Sr." and Dole.
      I am unequivocally questioning your credibility.
      I find it very difficult to believe someone who claims to have raised funds for GHW Bush would incorrectly refer to him as "Bush Sr." as you did.
      Every Republican -- and anyone who follows the news closely -- knows our 41st President was George Herbert Walker Bush, and our current President is George Walker Bush. These men have never been "Sr." and "Jr." and it is a common tactic of the left and misinformed to incorrectly refer to them thusly.
      I think all along you've adopted this ruse of pretending to be a lifelong GOP stalwart who has suddenly decided to support Obama because he is so wonderful so as to try to convince other Republicans to follow suit.
      I just simply cannot believe that you say you were a fundraiser for GHW Bush, and yet you didn't even know his real name!
      So, you either answer this, or many people will have to question your credibility.
      And if you continue to dodge this, I will continue to post this question.
      I look forward to your response.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 9:02:36 PM

        Comment: Don't you know Nin's has like 5 companies too. Employs thousands....when she gets called out she never responds, just keeps on with her copy/paste jihad.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 12:01:39 PM

        Comment: Uh, Nins was addressing the posters on a board...many of them aren't aware that both Bush's names aren't EXACTLY alike. It's very common to refer to the first George Bush as Sr....in fact, many political newscaster's do just that. My brother and father have the same first and last name, but a different middle name, yet it wasn't uncommon for people to refer to them as Sr. and Jr. It's not always used in proper terms of title, but rather a father/son type distinction.
        Is that really your basis of discrediting Nins? Or are you just afraid that Republicans are fed up and are voting Democratic this election? I'm sorry to tell you, but I'm sure you know that Nins is not alone. Many Republicans are disgusted with their party. Nins doesn't need to convince them of that.

        • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 07/10/2008 1:20:18 PM

          Comment: Are you Nins' spokesperson?
          No.
          I don't need to explain anything to you.
          Nins has dodged this question for several days.
          It's real simple. Nins has claimed to be a lifelong Republican and former fundraiser, and yet is unable to correctly identify someone she supposedly raised funds for?
          My question remains leveled at Nins: How do you explain this HUGE discrepancy?
          Unless I get a reasonable explanation, I will continue to post this question to NINS, and I will not be satisfied until NINS answers.
          Got it? Understand?
          Good.

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 2:08:37 PM

            Comment: That's the thing, it wasn't an incorrect identification. Bush Sr. IS Sr to his son. It's a layperson's term of recognizing one from the other. And you're caught up in miniscule nothingness. No one knows if anyone is really posting the truth on these forums, it's just opinion. It's easier for someone not familiar with the Bushs to identify the two as Sr. and Jr., and easier to type. I'm not the spokesperson, but you're an arrogant blog-bully that probably can't take the fact that you're of no significance in real life.

            • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 11:53:42 PM

              Comment: If you don't know the difference between George HW Bush and George W Bush, what rock did you crawl out of? Are you even from this country? You should be reading history books instead of trying to blog about something you know nothing about.

            • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 9:05:02 PM

              Comment: Your right you are of no significance in real life either. Then again neither is Nins or myself for that matter. So why are you defending Nins, she can do it herself, unless you are Nins using a different username?

            • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 07/10/2008 3:04:37 PM

              Comment: I'll say this one more time.
              This has nothing to do with you, and has to do with a running back and forth I've had with NINS.
              Got that?
              And if I'm so insignificant, what does that make you -- someone trying to bother me?
              And perhaps your simple mind can understand this: Nins has claimed to have been a lifelong Republican, and yet she INCORRECTLY identified the 41st President. This is a HUGE FAUX PAS, and not inconsequential. (I can only imagine if she tried to introduce him as "George Bush Sr.", because she would get laughed at)
              Contrary to your opinion, anyone who follows the news -- and especially Republicans -- know they are not Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. And this is not miniscule, unlike your intellect.
              Incorrectly identifying the former and current leaders of the free world is not minor.
              Are you so bored that you have to try so hard to bother me?
              That's funny, and a sad indictment of your empty life.
              And, for the record, you can keep on answering and if I have the time, I'll reply, but make no mistake: I will not relent until NINS answers.
              Got it?

    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 10:12:16 AM

      Comment: Give it up Nins,

      You aren't earning the money Obama's campaign is paying you for the rumor mungering.

      You are confusing "tax credit" with "tax deduction", so your entire analysis is incorrect and unfounded. The lower 85% income class WOULD benefit and most would receive a refund. The upper 15% income class would be penalized and would pay more in taxes.

      No wonder why the elitists are against the McCain plan. But, don't you think they should PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE by having the benefits loopholes closed?

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/10/2008 9:07:47 PM

        Comment: Not only that but when you call her out she never responds...about a month and a half ago I went on a 6 board posting spree trying to get her to answer a simple question....all she does is copy/paste the same crap over and over again....I'm sure she's at Obama.com getting her new talking points.

        • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 11:55:17 PM

          Comment: Nins and Driver of Wagons are paid Obama rumor mongers. Can't expect much truth out of them.

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/11/2008 4:04:35 AM

            Comment: On newsweek? I'm shocked!!! ha ha ha

  • Posted By: spicegirl @ 07/10/2008 1:24:25 AM

    Comment: Obama is carving his own destiny. He is creating his own path. Do NOT suggest he is trying to be like anyone. People will remember JFK and MLK when they see him in action because those of you who knew these icons see in Obama what you have seen in these two great men. Clearly they possessed that something extra, that vision, that extra spark, with the ability to motivate and take you that place where you have always dreamt of but never been. I can only read about JFK and MLK and other great presidents such as Lincoln etc. but I feel privileged to be able to be a part of the Obama experience. People will always try to discredit a great man, especially those that lack the capacity to reach up to his level and can only try to tear him down to their size, but this is forever an exercise in futility. The bottom line is you Alter can write as much crap as you think fit and those of you who prefer old man McCain and are indeed suckers for punishment, can say whatever you wish to say and write whatever you wish to write. This is democracy so feel free to continue but you will not ALTER the inevitable outcome. Obama will be the next POTUS whether you like it or not. Democracy rules and the majority are supporting him.

  • Posted By: ralphied @ 07/10/2008 12:29:48 AM

    Comment: Jonathan, you made me vomit when you compared Obama to JFK and Rev King. Did you fall and hit your head on concrete which caused you to have this kind of bad thought. Obama wished he could be like both of these men but he will never have that greatness in him. How did Obama happen to pick Dr Kings "I have a dream" anniversary date as the date to give his acceptance speech. Can't you see that Obama wants to be a movie star(actor). Can you not see the fakeness in his smile and the fake body language. Can the American people not see the fakeness in Obama. You think you have it bad now just think what will happen if we happen to be so unlucky to have Obama as our president. Obama is so unbelieveable and so immature in politics that I would vote for Howdy Doody before I would vote for Obama. America WAKE UP before it's to late. McCain is definately a better choice.

    • Posted By: millerm84 @ 07/10/2008 10:32:20 AM

      Comment: You may have missed this but the author was analyzing other people's comparisons of Obama to JFK and Dr. King. He then gave facts to suggest that Obama was trying to subtly imply this comparison by timing events of his to historic events of JFK and Dr. King.

  • Posted By: Joybuzzard @ 07/09/2008 11:42:28 PM

    Comment: The greater they are portrayed by the U.S. mainstream media, the more evil and dishonest they are. That's just how it is. Every U.S. presidential term, regardless of party, the U.S. attacks another country and U.S. citizens lose more fundamental freedoms. Like clockwork. It's always the same, has been for about 100 years. If a candidate has a lot of support in the media, and the media want to pretend that the candidate "evokes the memories of" or is otherwise the same as Kennedy/King and other media-manufactured fake historical heroes, it means the candidate is a lying psychopathic scumbag who will take away even more civil liberties and lead America on another wave of violent conquests using false pretenses, scare tactics and false flag attacks to justify it. America's media is owned by the same elite minority who own the major political parties and the companies that make the weapons and build the prison, and this elite minority benefits while the majority suffers.

  • Posted By: Joybuzzard @ 07/09/2008 11:41:03 PM

    Comment: The greater they are portrayed by the U.S. mainstream media, the more evil and dishonest they are. That's just how it is. Every U.S. presidential term, regardless of party, the U.S. attacks another country and U.S. citizens lose more fundamental freedoms. Like clockwork. It's always the same, has been for about 100 years. If a candidate has a lot of support in the media, and the media want to pretend that the candidate "evokes the memories of" or is otherwise the same as Kennedy/King and other media-manufactured fake historical heroes, it means the candidate is a lying psychopathic scumbag who will take away even more civil liberties and lead America on another wave of violent conquests using false pretenses, scare tactics and false flag attacks to justify it. America's media is owned by the same elite minority who own the major political parties and the companies that make the weapons and build the prison, and this elite minority benefits while the majority suffers.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 07/10/2008 1:34:32 AM

      Comment: Wow, Joy, I am sorry that you are so down on life.

      According to you, anyone who makes Americans feel good is a "lying sociopathic scumbag?" Do you realize that you just called Martin Luther King a lying sociopathic scumbag?

      Can't you find any truth or beauty anywhere in our world?

  • Posted By: lukkiecharm @ 07/09/2008 11:26:14 PM

    Comment: I live in Florida and do not recall MY vote being counted....

    • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 10:55:15 AM

      Comment: .............AND THAT WOULD BE THE FAULT OF THE FLORIDA DEMOCRATIC PARTY OFFICIALS WHO..........
      .....................EVEIDENTLY LIKE YOU, FEEL THAT THEY HAVE POWER OVER THE NATIONAL DEMOCRACTIC PARTY, INSTEAD OF VISE VERSA!

      • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/10/2008 11:58:39 PM

        Comment: Actually the DNC did not make their ruling until five months after the primary date was changed. Our election reform law was voted into law in May, 2007. It wasn't until October, 2007 that the DNC rules committee got together and decided that they couldn't let Florida jump ahead of the chosen four or other states would follow suit.

      • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 11:22:10 AM

        Comment: It's the fault of the REPUBLICAN controlled Florida legislature. The FLA GOP majority in the House of Reps voted to change the primary date. The Dems were outnumbered.

  • Posted By: neos @ 07/09/2008 10:56:35 PM

    Comment: It seems that most comments here are bent on demonizing Sen. Obama. When you can't run on your own unpopular platform or failed policies than you attack your opponent's character. Karl Rove has left a lasting legacy in the republican ranks: mean-spirited character assasination.

  • Posted By: datzamore@aol.com @ 07/09/2008 10:30:58 PM

    Comment: The issue of flip-flopping and shifting to the middle will pale in comparison to Obama's connections. Around most of America, east coast, west coast and midwest....this man is being viewed as a phony....the most extreme left wing candidate we have ever had to this point....but with a nice smile.
    Obama's "close 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright is being discussed at the water cooler by Americans every day more and more. And that reverand's "close relationship" with one of America's biggest racists, Louis Farrakhan, who was given a lifetime achievement award by Obama's church. (hello?). Birds of a Feather, folks.. Most of America is starting to figure it out. Especially Hillary fans and Jewish voters.
    Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected a very unpopular George Bush only 3 1/2 years ago during an unpopular war. Also remember that Kerry led Bush 51%-44% in July....and he lost. And now....at only 46%-44%....the Obama Fever Gap is wearing off fast.
    - John McCain will win this election.

  • Posted By: wertheworld @ 07/09/2008 8:52:56 PM

    Comment: IF ANYONE HAD READ KENNEDY'S SPEECHES, THEY WOULD REALIZE THAT HE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF SUBSTANCE, ELEQUENCE AND ORIGINALITY IN HIS WORDS.

    OBAMA is a copycat that changes his ideals and plans to attact voters. He is a phony. Is he willing to give up his salary as did JFK?

    HE IS NO JOHN KENNEDY.

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 07/09/2008 8:48:41 PM

    Comment: Obama isn't half the man King was.
    And JFK?
    He hid his Addison's disease from the public, was on a whole plethora of powerful drugs for various ailments, and he and Bobby took turns with Marilyn Monroe while their wives sipped martinis and talked fashion.
    JFK ignored a military build up in Cuba until it was damn near too late, then made a secret deal to trade missiles in Turkey for the ones on Castro's island at the behest of the USSR.
    He has been mytholigized as some sort of wonderful leader, but he dragged his feet on civil rights, screwed up Vietnam, bungled the Bay of Pigs, and nearly got us nuked during the Cuban missile crisis.
    He sailed and his wife was pretty with adorable kids and it was all very J Crew, but his presidency was very much a mixed bag. JFK wasn't even that popular in the Democratic Party and had to have LBJ -- whom he and Bobby despised -- on the ticket to carry the south.
    Even then, JFK had to have his father Joseph Kennedy rig the election utilizing long established mafia ties (from his bootlegging days; how the family made its' fortune) to steal votes in W VA and feed bribes to Daley's political machine in Chicago.
    Nixon's advisers told him not to contest the election, or he would be finished in politics.
    Of course JFK being assasinated makes us (rightly so) mourn for him.......but his presidency paved the way for the escalation of Vietnam, a bitter and violent civil rights struggle, and a prolonged Cold War with the USSR. He gets a C minus, with style points for having a pool installed in the White House basement for late night swimming sessions.

    • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 11:10:28 AM

      Comment: .............THAT IS TRUE.......................OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN TO BE AN ADULTERER AND A PLAGERIST LIKE MLK HAS BEEN......................PROVEN BY A BLACK MAN DOING HIS DOCTORAL RESEARCH!

      • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 11:24:03 AM

        Comment: Ask Larry Sinclair about what Obama has proven to be.

        • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 11:43:09 AM

          Comment: .........................YOUR DADDY?

          • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 3:25:12 PM

            Comment: With your MAMMA!

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 8:33:42 AM

      Comment: Lol, are you serious? You seem to be forgetting all the scandal NIXON created for himself. True, to a certain extent JFK was martyred by his assasination. But he was a truly great politician and avoided nuclear war. I don't care what goes on behind closed doors as long as the President does the job we put him in there to do. Bush was an alcoholic and cokehead. I don't think he's a bad president because of that, I think he's a bad president because of his terrible leadership.

      • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 07/10/2008 9:53:10 AM

        Comment: Yes. I am serious.
        I wasn't talking about LBJ or Nixon. I was discussing JFK, whose presidency was highly mediocre, but since he was shot, he was put on a pedestal. The fact is, he ignored a huge military build-up in Cuba that was going on right under our noses, and by waiting to react, he had to trade away missiles in Turkey for the ones in Cuba.
        How do you know Bush was a cokehead? Did you sell him coke or perhaps ingest it with him?
        This article has nothing to do with Bush, or Nixon, in case you missed that.
        It's about JFK, MLK and Obama.
        Glad I could clear that up for you.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 10:19:30 AM

          Comment: Bush has admitted that he used cocaine at Yale. The article has nothing to do with Bush or Nixon, true, and my comment was based on YOUR comment, in which you referenced Nixon. I was merely using Bush as an example about not caring what goes on behind closed doors--as JFK is widely considered to be a good president, and Bush is widely considered a bad one--both have had skeletons in their closet.
          These forum boards go off topic many times, and many posters use topics that fall outside of the article's material to prove their points.
          Glad I could clear that up for you.

  • Posted By: Jack Prentiss @ 07/09/2008 8:37:41 PM

    Comment: It is important to note that the evidence is overwhelming that Martin Luther King was a Communist.

    Fist you have the numerous examples of him dismissing as trivial the crimes against humanity committed by Communist Regimes. And secondly you have that undisputable fact that he received the vast majority of his funding and advice from a group of Radical New Yorkers who also just happened to be concurrently funding the American Communist Party.

    If you want to like MLK and what he did to the Country, go ahead Alter, but don???t try to sneakily imply that MLK wasn???t actually a Communist. He was one and the Conservatives like Jesse Helms who called him on it were nobly and courageously speaking the truth..

  • Posted By: maymok @ 07/09/2008 8:35:38 PM

    Comment: Obama's key policies and goals are very consistent. Always remember, startegies may change from time to time to meet the overall goals.

  • Posted By: mobaxter @ 07/09/2008 8:30:56 PM

    Comment: OBAMA have you become the USA class clown for Pres.??????????????????????????????????????????

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/09/2008 8:14:59 PM

    Comment: Hussein Obama...the candidate for CHANGE....I'll give him credit. He sure Changes a lot..........

    Last fall, Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton was unambiguous. "To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies."

    So how did he filabuster today??? He voted YES. Crook and a Fraud.

    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 07/09/2008 7:54:30 PM

    Comment: "...This longing for an emotion they never experienced, but feel they missed, is part of what brings them out in such numbers at his events..."

    The author dismisses Obama's popularity as some sort of nostalgic longing for the past, implying that people who came of age in the 70's, 80's and 90's are just a bunch of 60's wannabes.

    Mr. Alter, could you be any more condescending?

    I, for one, have no wish to re-live or re-create the '60's, or the 70's, which is the era I came of age in. Those decades were divisive, violent, wasteful, and in many respects, counter-productive. They weren't nearly as wonderful as some people remember them to be.

    I support Obama because I agree with his politics - I would have supported H. Clinton, Edwards, Richardson, or anyone else the democrats nominated - not because I see him as the reincarnation of Kennedy or King.

    Kennedy and King were from a different time, and in their time, they had plenty of detractors, and made plenty of mistakes. I have no doubt that Obama will make plenty of mistakes.

    But putting leaders on a pedestal is how we got into most of our mess in the first place.

    Mr. Alter, you do Obama, and the rest of us, a disservice. Kennedy and King are dead and gone, as are the 60's. Let's let them rest in peace.



    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/09/2008 8:17:22 PM

      Comment: You support Hussein, because you agree with his politics. What are they??? He has not maintained ANY key positions, he stated during the primary contest. To support Hussein Obama, is to support a crook and a fraud. Looks like Jesse Jackson even knows that.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 8:34:25 AM

        Comment: HolyRoller, the Hussein thing is really overdone. Is that all you can bring to the table? You're grasping for straws now...

        • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 11:29:03 AM

          Comment: Summer 4077 is still missing HolyRoller's point. Don't change the subject by talking about the "Hussein" thing. Nice try, but we are not that easily distracted by shiny spinning objects.

        • Posted By: swdemocratforchange @ 07/10/2008 9:06:13 AM

          Comment: HolyRoller has been grasping at straws for months with his racist name-calling and total hatred of Senator Obama! HolyRoller actually has the audacity to believe that he can influence anybody to believe the hogwash that comes out of his nasty mouth! No HolyRoller, No McCain....ever!!!!!!

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 9:46:32 AM

            Comment: The funniest thing is that many of the Obama bashers use the same rhetoric and false, unbased claims to support their side. The whole "Hussein" thing, Muslim, swearing in on the Koran, refusal to salute the flag, ties with terrorism...I mean, all those things are so untrue they are laughable. When you cite the same crazy stories over and over, it totally discredits any valid thing you say. HollyRoller and others like him do not understand that, because they are simpletons.

            • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 11:31:19 AM

              Comment: Ever hear the expression 'if you tell a lie loud and long enough, people will believe it'?

              • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 12:04:34 PM

                Comment: Yes, I've heard the expression. But also, if you rant and rave like a crazy madman/woman...people will just think you're crazy.

                • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/10/2008 3:23:55 PM

                  Comment: Kind of makes us even. We think you're crazy without the ranting and raving.

  • Posted By: fantasmic7 @ 07/09/2008 7:27:02 PM

    Comment: I watched Obama's speech the night he clinched the nomination and it was very powerful, even without the comparison to McCain's green screen speech. I think the speech in the stadium is a great idea. I just wish the comparisons to JFK and MLK and RFK would cease and I dont even think I need to say why. I know the 60's were another time, but I am still scared to death. Obama has a real chance to make a difference and I hope it happens.

  • Posted By: Colorado4Obama @ 07/09/2008 5:32:23 PM

    Comment: Party Poopers! You all are jealous.

    • Posted By: amendment2man @ 07/09/2008 5:45:16 PM

      Comment: another mature response from the obama camp??

      wow "i'm rubber you are glue" why dont you obamites put away the coloring books and grow up? after all I have read that you all are the twenty somethings so you should at least be playing video games instead of coloring.

      • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 11:41:42 AM

        Comment: ................THEN ........HOW ABOUT .........................LOOK AT THE POLLS......................DOES THAT BRING UP AN IMMATURE REACTION FROM THE GOP?????????????????

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 8:36:27 AM

        Comment: Do you realize Obama's biggest supporting group are those in their 30s and 40s? Sure, those in their 20s support him, but are notoriously fickle about voting. Are you getting scared that this election, they may actually show up and vote for him?
        I'm 26 and hold a MBA from a very respected university. Hardly coloring books. Go back to deer hunting or whatever it is you McCaints do.

  • Posted By: amendment2man @ 07/09/2008 5:31:40 PM

    Comment: obama depends on the romantic / nostalgic emotions associated with all these historical figures. read the other article about his attempted Brandenburg gate appearance. he attempts to make a strronger association and be portrayed as a leader.

    He is a great showman but showman such as this belong in the entertainment industry as the job he applies for has much more non romantic non idealistic duties. his recent response to the iranian missle launch demonstrates his naivete. he advocates talks with the iranians yet this was just their objective as they are now getting backed into the corner where negotiation will no longer be possible. much the same as the chamberlain-hitler affair of ww2.

    he is all show and no go. we would be the naive ones to elect this all show candidate.

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/09/2008 4:19:59 PM

    Comment: 4carol,
    Change your stance everytime you visit a different demographic for starters.......

  • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/09/2008 4:17:46 PM

    Comment: THIS IS FUNNY, A MUST SEE!

    Neocon considers it racial trashing to call someone from Japan, hold on , HOLD ON.... Japanese.

  • Posted By: neocon @ 07/09/2008 3:44:25 PM

    Comment: The Orwellian doublespeak that Obama spews in portraying himself as "a uniter" and someone who "will bring this country together" is the polar opposite of everything this man has said and done and would be laughable if it were not so deadly serious.

    Obama probably did not think about the presidential office possibility when he wrote the book "Dreams From My Father" as it is laden with racist categorizations. Obama catagorizes people according to skin tone, as some are olive, pale, walnut, etc. Almost to the point of being laughable, if it was not so pathetic and scary.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 9:49:21 AM

      Comment: If you really believe the comments you made, you obviously have not read the book. You can't cherry-pick a select few words out of a several hundred page book. Obama is not racist, what a ludicrous idea! He's the first politician to speak frankly about race issues that still plague America, which I find refreshing. We will never be able to unite as a country until we bring our issues, good and bad, out in the open. Everyone is so PC these days that they are afraid to do so, but Obama is leading the way to open, candid discussion. People like you are killing that movement with your narrow views.

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 07/09/2008 4:51:36 PM

      Comment: Absolutely. That book is a gold mine. Required summer reading for all Americans.

    • Posted By: MR_A @ 07/09/2008 4:19:51 PM

      Comment: I've said before and I will say it again...if you don't want to vote for the man then be ADULT enough to just say so. but to look for things to demonize another human being is morally bankrupt. NEOCON...why aren't you asking the question about Mcain being court martialed after being a POW.

      Lastly, the descriptive (i know its one of those big words...it means to describe) words that he used in his book were there for the purpose of DESCIBING something. did you even read it? it sounds like you got for the sole purpose of finding something that you thought would demonize him. Funny...that same attitude was very prominent when this country was Apartheid North.

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/09/2008 3:54:44 PM

      Comment: OH GOD NO, Obama said some people are pale! The Bastard!

      Oh, ya know what I am kind of pale and you know what else I could really care less if someone uses the term pale, walnut or olive. You are trying to "prove" Obama divided people and this is the best example you have. Thats not much to go on.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 07/09/2008 3:56:53 PM

        Comment: We got sick of counting at page 110 and sick of reading Obama's racial trashing.
        Black=70
        White=52
        Africa=5
        African=3
        African American=5
        Race=10
        ***=1
        N**ger=13
        "*** Eskimo"=1
        Japanese=1
        Asian=2
        racism=3
        racist=3
        colored=1
        green-eyed, honey skin, pouty Lips=1
        Dark and straight-backed=1
        Ugly Americans=1
        Native American=1
        French=1
        Italian=1
        Black Bondage=1
        Black Power=1
        White referenced as Devil=1
        Blue-eyed Devils=1
        Dark unblemished skin=1
        Black Power=1
        Racial Stock=1
        Brown and handsome=1
        Dark=1
        Milato=1
        Albino=1

        • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/09/2008 4:08:45 PM

          Comment: LOL you listed French, Asian, Italian, and Dark. You are even listing the word Race! LOL

          You only have the "N" word and Colored as words that could devide, but listing a word is in fact taking it out of context. LoL You think calling someone a Native American will cause problems!!!! LOL

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 10:21:15 AM

            Comment: I can only hope that neocon is using this as a sarcastic joke. Really. Otherwise, s/he is just completely insane.

  • Posted By: neocon @ 07/09/2008 3:44:18 PM

    Comment: The Orwellian doublespeak that Obama spews in portraying himself as "a uniter" and someone who "will bring this country together" is the polar opposite of everything this man has said and done and would be laughable if it were not so deadly serious.

    Obama probably did not think about the presidential office possibility when he wrote the book "Dreams From My Father" as it is laden with racist categorizations. Obama catagorizes people according to skin tone, as some are olive, pale, walnut, etc. Almost to the point of being laughable, if it was not so pathetic and scary.

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 07/09/2008 4:52:29 PM

      Comment: The GOP should pass out free copies to every registered voter.

      • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 11:02:48 AM

        Comment: THEY COULD..................THEY WILL HAVE MUCH FREE TIME AVAILABLE, AND MANY ON THE "USED TO BE REPRESENTATIVE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE"!

  • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/09/2008 3:34:20 PM

    Comment: As a life long democrat I am trying to warm up to Obama, but his arrogance and symbolism is shocking. We need substance! His stated policies are pretty good, but he has not provided sufficient evidence that he can deliver on them. This grandiose speech and comparisons of Obama to JFK and MLK are inappropriate, since Obama hasn't proven much yet. I'm really anxious about this candidate. He is a brilliant orator and politician, but where is the competence?

    • Posted By: HANewsweek @ 07/10/2008 5:04:23 AM

      Comment: Remember !! How did Obama came to be where he is? Is he really incompetent? He spent several years as state legislator that preceded enormous community work. When he was elected as US Senator, before even his first day in senate, John Kerry invited him to be keynote speaker at the DNC convention. Why? Why would he give a spot like that to someone, just because he is black? I think he had touched many hearts by then by his work. The speech at the convention was a masterpiece that touched hearts of millions. Americans saw something they have been looking for, for decades. They had seen highly experienced politicians who ruined their names, reputations all around the world, and their dreams. Beginning with his first day in the senate and subsequent two years he was crowded with calls to lead the country. It was Dick Durbin (IL), who took him in a corner and urged hin to consider running for President, there were many well experienced senators and congressmen who followed. Wherever he went, he attracted crowds. It was not Obama who told anyone to help his dream to become President. He made it clear to all that he is going there to serve American people and not to govern. That kind of following is hard to be defeated. When he speaks, overwhelming majority believes him and knows he is speaking the truth.
      ABOUT THE STADIUM: He has nearly 1 million volunteers all around the country in 50 states, in Colorado alone he has more than 22,000 volunteers, these are all who have been working days and nights for him for months without pay. Added to that are dedicated paid staff. He is naturally trying to provide them opportunity to attend and listen to his historic speech. He is no JFK, he is no MLK, he is Obama.
      ALL OF YOU HATERS: The protesters will be outnumbered every where. Don't even think about it.

    • Posted By: 4carol @ 07/09/2008 4:12:11 PM

      Comment: Just one question?? How can you be a brilliant orator and politician and NOT be competent??

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/09/2008 4:54:00 PM

        Comment: A brilliant orator and politician is not necessarily competent to be president of the United States

        • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/10/2008 11:03:48 AM

          Comment: ..................AS SO MANY EXPRESIDENTS HAVE PROVEN!

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/09/2008 4:52:41 PM

        Comment: Absolutely, but Obama hasn't proven himself to be, yet.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/09/2008 4:23:29 PM

        Comment: For starters, change your stances everytime you visit a different demographic.........
        Make sense sweetie?

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/09/2008 3:48:39 PM

      Comment: Well your online so look up his record. Not on some fake news site, but on government web sites. You can do this and you can even look into how your tax dollars are spent, thats one of the many good programs Obama has done.

  • Posted By: dunnhaupt @ 07/09/2008 3:08:02 PM

    Comment: From the moment of Obama's first announcement of his candidacy from Lincoln's steps in Springfield, Illinois it has been clear that he pays great attention to symbolic places. The German government is currently wrangling with Obama's demand to speak (like John F. Kennedy) before the historical Brandenburg Gate at Berlin at the end of this month. Foreign minister Steinmeier agrees, but Chancellor Merkel still refuses.

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/09/2008 3:31:55 PM

      Comment: You are still a lier!!!
      This is from the EXACT SAME ARTICLE! I hope everyone learns about your false post!

      Obama spokesman Bill Burton said. "He has considered several sites for a possible speech, and he will choose one that makes most sense for him and his German hosts."

      NOTE he says makes most sense for him and his German host.

      The TRUTH is NOTHING like what you are saying. LIER!!!

      • Posted By: amendment2man @ 07/09/2008 5:41:40 PM

        Comment: you did not read today's article regarding his wanting to make his sppech at the Brandenburg gate. his desparate attempt to legitimize himself and make us think he is a leader.

        the truth is the truth. Merkel feels that he is not worthy, the respect for him DOES NOT EXIST on the world stage.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/09/2008 4:24:39 PM

        Comment: Should we all take the word of someone whom cannot spell LIAR? And you get to vote? OMG

      • Posted By: neocon @ 07/09/2008 3:55:47 PM

        Comment: How about this from Obama's Salma speech marking the freedom march:

        "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I???m not coming home to Selma, Alabama."

        Problem is he was born in 1961, the Selma marches happen in 1965.

        Never let the truth get in the way of a good story I guess.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/10/2008 10:25:42 AM

          Comment: If you read anything about the Selma marches, you'll know that the conflict started in the 50s, and culminated in the marches. It's not like the conflict sprang up overnight and they marched. He was referencing the entire 15 year conflict leading up to the marches, which would indeed make his statement accurate.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/09/2008 3:59:47 PM

          Comment: By the time the Salma marches occurred, Barack Obama Sr. had already returned to Kenya

          • Posted By: neocon @ 07/09/2008 4:02:12 PM

            Comment: Your right. Obama is claiming conception during the march.