The truth is the truth-----to lie is to lie-----to blame others for what you did, is very wrong------
So simple to know the Real Truth------24 years old, TA social work with his master degree, goes to work
in the prison system-----then he leaves to work undercover online and in the gangs----he get
BRAIN WASHED---Coercive Persuasion----he goes to the college and he kills people-----
4 guns, one shot gun-----however we have records, when he shot those guns----what gun range and when--
At 27 he was an expert----with his guns----he shots off 48 rounds and 6 shot gun blasts----he kills
5 people------how is that possible------I feel he had his eyes closed-------
One Major Problem-----he didn't take the blame----he blamed it on being mentally ill, and his DRUGS----
however that was a total lie-------to work in the prison system in our country, he would have to be CLEAN, in addition he wouldn't have had a gun permit if he was bipolar and on mental ill medication-----
Lastly, he was not Bipolar-----it was Coercive Persuasion (brain washing)
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/16/2008 1:19:02 AM
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/16/2008 1:03:58 AM
You see-----people profiled me as the Northern Illinois University College Student Master Degree in Social Work, TA----however he was far more then that-----he was working undercover in criminal justice----
The college student was an undercover cop-----
So I got blamed because the Social Worker never said he was working criminal justice-----he blamed it on
all the bipolar people------the bipolar people not taking drugs------so I got Harassment and Hate-----over
the violence of an undercover criminal justice person------
Bipolar people do not have a Stigma------we get harassment and hate-----
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/16/2008 12:55:50 AM
Coercive Persuasion (brain washing) was used during war time----it works, and it is very powerful----
all within 30 seconds, you can brain wash a person----I can get you to lose your money----all within 30 seconds-----
Buy---Sell----Buy-----Hold-----UP and Down-----
It works in the stock market----it works----however, used with INTENT to LIE, CHEAT and STEAL is ILLEGAL--
Anyone that uses Coercive Persuasion to win in the stock----with intent to profit----should go to JAIL----
because he/she let someone else PROFIT-----that was the sole motive----it is ILLEGAL----
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/16/2008 12:48:13 AM
So what is the Real Truth----bipolar people not taking Drugs are tracked by the Police----they get GPS on their car---I get harassment and hate every day of my life-----they want me to take DRUG----I reported
this harassment and hate 3 time to the local police---and I told them, I'd agree to be tested by anyone,
as long as it was video taped-----no body wants to test me----Why? Because what I do WORKS----
It is also true, I lost money---do to the harassment and hate-----in the stock market------you see I opened the
doors to HELL-----criminal justice people create harassment and hate, online, on the phone, and throughout my life-----they monitor all my email, they monitor all my phone calls----and they even bug my house-----
I'm drug free for over 4 years----bipolar Vietnam Vet----I was support to the Green Beret's-----and it is true
the information I have can and will help many mentally ill people in the USA-----
We help to create are own Major Chemical Imbalance-----we just don't understand------we do it to ourselves--
it can take place in apx. 6 days-----
All American's have lost LOTS OF MONEY----all the mutual funds are down, 25% to 40% over the past
6 months----we created twice the effect of 9/11 within the US stock market------
The harassment and hate I received during the past 1 year, can cause anyone alive to LOSE BIG-----
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Posted By: DrevansMommy @ 07/15/2008 10:56:51 AM
In certain cases I can see where the chemicals in food effect the children, but that is as you said "a food additive allergy." They gave test now that can check for this. It is just like an allergy test. Your allergy dr may have to order the "drips" or whatever they are called that they put on you to test, but they can get them and they can test for it. Youll here people talking about being allergic to Red dye # 5 6 or what ever and it because of these tests. If you want to go the route of food chemicals first, then I suggest this is the first step you take. Also just like when our children were babies eating their first baby foods..... we were told to only add one at a time, so if there was any problem we would know which food did it. Why once our children switch to table food do we stray from this?? Some people cant handle spicy food, and the odd ones like me, I am allergic to vanillin (the ingrediant they put in soft drinks for like vanilla pepsi ect.) I can have anything with vanilla extract but what ever they do differant to the soda vanilla I break out with hives. So it is possible these are some of the causes, but people need to explore everything that could be wrong. My son was diagnosed at age 2 of ADHD. He had a VERY EXTREME case, and as time followed, so did a lot of additional diagnosis'. I myself when threw the stages of denial, like most parents do, but I quickly gave myself a quick kick in the behind and realized I dont need to deny something that in fact is just there me denying it or not.Because of this I was able to give my son early intervention, and as with any medical condition that is the best for recovery. My son has not known any differant. He will be 7 in a couple weeks and he is very succecful, it is all because he has been raised knowing he has a condition and has learned to function with it and has not have to completly change his life because he didnt get help till he was 12 which is when most parents say "I cant handle it anymore!" I was harrassed badly because every one said my son was too young, well the same people today are saying how smart it was of me to get the help early. Now my son is very successful!! What ever the cause, whatever the treatment you chose, you need to do something for your child and do it at the first signs of symptoms. Just like adults if you were raised to tie your shoes with your right hand, and then someone said you couldnt do that any more, you had to tie them with your left hand itd mess with you a bit. Now imagion having to change everything in your life, work, school, social events, sports, everything. Hard for us.... now think about what it would be for a child who has not even developed the skills to attempt this!
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Posted By: AKgrandma @ 07/15/2008 9:16:26 PM
When I said allergy, I only meant that's the word I used to my family and friends. I do not think that a reaction to something artificial is necessarily an allergy, but when I tried to get my family (mostly my mother who babysat for my son) to stay away from certain foods, the only way I could get her cooperation was to tell her he was allergic to something. She could sort of understand from that standpoint that she may be harming him by giving him Jello or whatever. When you put a drug (chemical) into your body to change behavior for the better you don't call it an allergic reaction, do you? Then why when the effect is negative do we call it an allergy.. My son was also 2 or 3 when his behavior swithched on. It was a nightmare. I cried buckets because no one seemed to have any answer for me. His behavior was frightening. But once when I was in the grocery store reading lables, a lady, who I didn't know, stopped to comment and I told her what I was doing and what my sons problems were. She also was trying diet on her child only hers was much older. She said that the hyper child was actually better that what comes next and that was the child becoming depressed. I mean clinically depressed. Suicidal. She had her child on drugs, but was looking for a better answer. I never saw her again so I have no idea how her story turned out. I am not against drugs per se. They do have their place. But looking at the incredible increase in the behavior problems today vs when I was a child, I felt it was much more likely something in the environment, including what we were eating. Anyway, I do not know whether an allergy test would show any actual allergy to the colors and preservatives as I personally do not think it is an allergy.
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 11:56:55 AM
Feingold diet? Who is Feingold? It sounds like he just wants the Gold.
I've been bipolar for about 20 years, and I'm 62-----I tried every vitamin, and every herb known to Man----
they all failed-----to handle a Major Chemical Imbalance----I wouldn't waste my money on Feingold-----
The major chemical imbalance you have is regarding you and water------you can't balance the water in your
body-----once you can balance the water within your body, your chemistry will come back to normal------
You see I've been drug free for over 4 years----how is that possible? How did I make that possible?
Any bipolar person off meds for one month would be toast--------
I very surprised with 7 million bipolar people, not any would be interested, on HOW?
It shows what Man wants----they only want MONEY and more MONEY-----drugs are MONEY------
Posted By: AKgrandma @ 07/15/2008 9:01:02 PM
I know that my comment was wordy so perhaps you didn't read it all. Dr Feingold studied the effects of food additives on behavior. It recommends you (and your loved ones) go back to natural, home cooked from scratch as much as possible. Most packaged foods are full of chemicals. This diet may not be a cure all, but it sure helped my son. I noticed that my own mood swings became less pronounced. Even if it doesn't cure the behavior %100, it is still worth going back to the foods our parents and grandparents ate--back before ADHD and ADD were so common. I am a 63 year-old great-grandmother, so we are of the same generation. About the only place, besides candy which we weren't allowed, to find food coloring was in Jello. It is not only food colors that are harmfull. Things like BHT, a preservative, can also effect the chemical balance in the brain. Dr. Feingold does not want your money nor mine. His institute does not try to sell you drugs; they want you to get off of drugs. I hope this explains what we are talking about when we refer to the Feingold diet. It is basically a healthy, natural food plan for eating without chemicals.
I agree with you about most of these quick fix schemes are just to make money. Feingold diet is not a quick fix, but a new way (actually old way, like our grandparents ate) of eating. Try it. Most people have forgotten what real food tastes like!
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Posted By: julieanns @ 07/15/2008 7:17:48 PM
Yellowcar, the topic here is about young children with ADDHD and taking medication for it. Opinions are heated of course because people are talking about family. Have you lost lots of money and is that why it's mentioned in every post? Take care and God bless.
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Posted By: cleaner12 @ 07/15/2008 7:00:28 PM
what is with your use of harassment and hate? the fact that you mindlessly use that phrase over and over exemplifies your inability to think logically and creatively. what exactly do you mean by police gps and what evidence do you have that you are being tracked?
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 6:47:50 PM
Cleaner 12 you stated the following about me:
yellowcar you obviously schizophrenic and delusional.
Cleaner 12----let me say I find your comments to be harassment and hate-----
Delusional---when I have Police GPS on my car-----delusional-----sorry no
Schizophrenic-----no---I did not create the 9/11 in the financial markets in the USA-----
You----are only showing how Evil The System Of Justice as become-----name calling, In Your Face---
Harassment and Hate------all to cheat people out of their MONEY-----
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Posted By: julieanns @ 07/15/2008 6:23:55 PM
In the here and now there is no question Albert Einstein as a disruly child who disappointed his parents would be considered a prime candidate for ADD prescription drugs. Read below and click the links... one details the clear tie between infant/toddler TV watching and ADD.
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Posted By: thetoadfather82 @ 07/14/2008 8:34:05 PM
I am a 19 year old diagnosed with ADHD on Concerta. There are obviously good reasons to both sides. One thing this article doesn't take into perspective is that ADHD medicines are generally Type II drugs. That is they have abuse potential. Drug holidays are a great way for psychiatrists to prevent drug addiction. Addiction is also reduced with extended release meds like Concerta - I personally prefer extended release for it's once a day ease of use which helps to prevent diagnosis-related stigma. On the other side, many kids can become irritable or too much to handle pushing drug holidays out of the picture. Introducing absolutism into the argument like raiderh1 has will only serve to alienate. Absolutism is the work of close-mindedness. Close-mindedness directly correlates ignorance. I'm pretty sure no one is shooting for ignorance as a life goal so shouting off that no child has ADHD and that no child should be put on psychoactive medication should immediately raise red flags. Consider a child who has such an innate propensity towards suicidal ideation that psychotherapy alone is not enough. Many affective (mood) disorders are due to chemical imbalances in the brain often caused by some genetic predisposition inherited from a parent. When counseling sand close attention and love are not enough shouldn't a psychoactive drug be considered? In the realm of attention deficit disorders consider that what a child could be losing without medication. Failing a grade and being held back certainly carries much greater stigma than the diagnosis. Losing a college scholarship which could amount to thousands of dollars could affectively remove a teenager from college. If the child has the disorder why not try medication, especially since so much could be lost without it. In the end it comes down to propagating happiness. Whatever makes you and your child most happy and most comfortable is obviously the answer - just never stop at always or never, your child is worth more than that.
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Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:16:24 PM
Oh, and it is closed-mindedness... not "close-mindedness" which isn't anything at all?
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Posted By: thetoadfather82 @ 07/15/2008 1:15:19 AM
Please don't make me pick through your comments for grammatical errors too. Your topic subversion is noted but hardly serves your case to negate my argument.
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Posted By: julieanns @ 07/15/2008 6:20:16 PM
Go ahead and pick away... this should be good. The hate in your heart and soul are soooo apparent.
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Posted By: julieanns @ 07/15/2008 6:09:40 PM
In his early years, Albert Einstein's mother was disturbed by how long it took him to learn how to talk. His elementary school teachers thought that he was a foolish dreamer, and one teacher even asked him to drop out of his class. Albert hated sports as a child, they made him dizzy and tired, but he made up for his hatred of sports with his love for music. He would play Mozart sonatas on the violin, usually accompanied by his mother. He also liked private games, such as building a house of cards.
Even as a child he was constantly doubting and questioning. "Your mere presence here undermines the class's respect for me," spat his 7th grade teacher, Dr. Joseph Degenhart. (Degenhart also predicted that Einstein "would never get anywhere in life.")
He was slow in learning how to talk. "My parents were so worried," he later recalled, "that they consulted a doctor." Even after he had begun using words, sometime after the age of 2, he developed a quirk that prompted the family maid to dub him "der Depperte," the dopey one. Whenever he had something to say, he would try it out on himself, whispering it softly until it sounded good enough to pronounce aloud.As a child, Einstein was slow to speak. This, combined with his cheeky defiance of authority and his distaste for rote learning, led one school master to send him packing and another to dismiss him as a lazy dog.
http://add-adhd-77.blogspot.com/2007/06/einstein-verses-addadhd.html
http://www.overmatter.com/2005/02/what_if_einstei.html
For alternatives to medicine from an ADD parent with ADD children: Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) Blessing? Or Disorder? http://www.findyourcoach.com/ADD-blessing.htm
It's Official: TV Linked to Attention Deficit
http://www.whitedot.org/issue/iss_story.asp?slug=ADHD%20Toddlers
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Posted By: cleaner12 @ 07/15/2008 5:17:46 PM
yellowcar you obviously schizophrenic and delusional.
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 3:14:12 PM
thetoadfather82-----Harassment and Hate are illegal-----You have created harassment and hate within my
work place, I'm self employed, I invest in the World Stock Market, and it is open 24/7----so you are in
violation of the laws, in the USA-----you are causing harassment and hate online------
Please leave this web site-----newsweek please write a story about people that create harassment and
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Posted By: cleaner12 @ 07/15/2008 5:17:07 PM
yellowcar you are obviously out of your mind and possibly schizophrenic.
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 1:35:02 AM
thetodfather82 ----your comments are harassment and hate------
I see we have a person with a brain-----however he can not make the number of mentally ill in the USA
go down-----next year it will be higher-----everyone is doing a Good Job------
Posted By: thetoadfather82 @ 07/15/2008 2:20:15 PM
I have nothing against the mentally ill and I'm sorry if I came off that way. I already mentioned that I myself have ADHD, and I have bipolar too. I'm doing my best to understand the mental illnesses I've come in contact with so far but I'm only 19 years old. I am doing more and more to combat mental illness as I can. I am opposed to fear tactics so please do not think I employed them. I am merely in support of getting the right treatment to all those who need it. No one person can find the answer; it's a very large scale movement.
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:15:56 PM
To be mentally ill-----
You can see it in his/her EYES------why do I say that?
It took me over 15 years of testing ------others have tried and failed in the past------
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:07:04 PM
To balance your water in your body------doesn't require you to drink water-----but what balances water within
your body?
For example if you competed in an Ironman---
2.4 swim
112 mile bike
26 mile run------
How does Man do it-------the Ironman must balance the water within his body-------it is not easy-----
but very possible-----
The How is the question------that required me 15 years of testing------I was the Test Project----who better person to Test-----ME
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Posted By: tiffany28 @ 07/14/2008 4:44:46 PM
Wow! Ive never heard such ignorant comments in my life!!!!Jared and Devon, are you parents, teachers or doctors?????? Have you really seen parents, teachers and the children in their lives suffer from ADHD? If stricter discipline really worked, don't you think that the school systems, doctors, etc. would have figured it out by now, or are you claiming to be more intelligent, in all your studies of the topic, to know better then the people who deal with everyday of their lives?
I agree that it is often misdiagnosed, and parents should be taught different strategies to try before drugs are used, but I also know that children who suffer from ADHD, really suffer when it is not treated.-
Posted By: raiderh1 @ 07/14/2008 6:52:37 PM
You might want to research the little monetary perks your doctor gets based on the numbers of prescriptions they write for that junk.
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Posted By: tiffany28 @ 07/14/2008 11:09:27 PM
They also get kickbacks for giving my daughter cream for her eczema - it doesn't mean that she doesn't have scaly patches on her skin!
I highly doubt that the majority of parents want their children diagnosed with ADHD to give their doctors a monetary kickback!!!!!! There goes that philosophy!
I have to believe that doctors become doctors to help people. Parents become parents because they want to build a loving family. Teachers become teachers because they care about children. There are exceptions to everything, of course, but there are too many wonderful, good, people out there to be cynical enough to believe that all the good in the world is gone.-
Posted By: devon44 @ 07/15/2008 11:27:43 AM
All I am saying is that when I was a kid, I had to try harder than the other kids because it was hard for me to pay attention to boring stuff. That made me stronger, smarter, and more capable than the average person. And the teachers etc tried to put me on Meds, but my parents called BS and knew I was stronger than that. So what I am saying is from personal experience. You are putting your kid on a substance where you know very litle about the long term effects, all because you are too lazy to make your kid TRY HARDER and you are too lazy yourself. Will these kids ever be able to function normally? There are posts on here from people 30 years old, and they say when they go off their meds they are lazy, irritable, they gain weight etc. Do you really want your kids to be like these weak, pathetic aults that cannot even function on a daily basis without their magic little pills? Teach your kids to be strong! And by the way there probably is something to that Feingold diet, if you feed your kid pre-processed Mac and Cheese 5 times a week with hot dogs, I can't imagine that that would be good for them.
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 11:24:28 AM
How about the Real Truth-----
Over the past 3 years I have been tracked by every criminal justice person in the USA, online, over the phone
and GPS-----I never had ANY criminal justice person ask if they could HELP ME. The were all interested in
TRAPPING ME----using me, and trying to Destroy Me------
You see Government never loses in the stock market------yet I spend 5 hours a day, for over 3 years
picking out all the people that Lie, Cheat and Steal to win-----it happens every day in the stock market----
We should have more people in JAIL----then I ever thought possible------in the Stock Market they make it look
A-OK however it is totally illegal-------
I opened the doors to Hell in the USA------I can put more people in Jail then you can count------harassment and hate is illegal------I notified two police stations and it still continues-----Why?
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Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 11:07:57 AM
I'm 62 year old, a Vietnam Vet bipolar----I live in America a Country I'd Die For------and yet I see only
destruction in America----I don't see living your dream----I only see a nightmare----
When I was in Vietnam, I didn't feel safe----I feared for my own life-----and now I'm living in America
and I feel the same way. But Why?
Starbuck----down 75% in value
Home Depot down 43% in value
Country wide----resorting to stealing everyones money
Bear Stearns----resorted to stealing everyones money
All the airlines---resorted to stealing everyones money
All the banks---resorted to stealing everyones money
Fannie Mae---resorted to stealing everyones money
Freddie Mac---resorted to stealing everyones money
and more the 500 companies in the USA resorted to stealing everyone money-----
Should I feel safe in America?
I feel the same as I did in 1971, walking on the streets of Siagon, Vietnam-----
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