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  • Posted By: TeraGurl2003 @ 07/14/2008 7:32:09 PM

    Speaking as an adult of 19 years who, as a child was diagnosed with ADHD, the breaks are a must to make sure the current dose is whats still needed to maintain a "normal" dosage. I was taken off medication a long time ago and made progress on my own just observing how normal society works. I'm not going to say all children will be able to do this but I'm sure seeing a psychiatrist would help. I do need medication but the outbursts and hyper-activity are no longer as frequent.

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 8:02:45 PM

      In other words, the complete dose of medication taken from childhood wasn't needed but a chance to observe how normal society works is what did it? Interesting. Are the meds now for something else or have you learned that the outbursts and hyperactivity are better dealt with through mainstream therapy and just plain growing up? How long did your parents put you on the meds originally, how old were you when you started taking them?

      • Posted By: thetoadfather82 @ 07/14/2008 8:41:16 PM

        Why are you so hateful? You aren't in TeraGurl2003's position; she reserves the right to comment on her life experiences and choices. Take a step back and look at the science, the clinical trials, the whole picture. If attention deficit doesn't exist then does that also hold true for all diagnoses coming from a psychiatrist? I really hope that you never have to bear any mental illness.

        • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:11:27 PM

          Your own personal slant is to think that I am "hateful," just quoting. Since when does asking a few questions equal hatred? The person who said ADD has been completely debunked was not I, by the way. Let me guess -- you are a Democrat too? Ha. Too right. Try to put yourself in my shoes... being diagnosed at far too young an age with high blood pressure only to be told the only way to deal with it was to take prescription Atenolol. No other type of treatment was offered, researched or offered. And this is the problem with too many false diagnoses of ADD, FYI. On my own I found an alternative that works... without the drugs.

          • Posted By: thetoadfather82 @ 07/15/2008 1:19:39 AM

            Actually I am quite far right. I am definitely the most conservative of my friends and family, but political views should never stop anyone from making an informed decision.

        • Posted By: Margaret40 @ 07/14/2008 10:50:29 PM

          I agree with you. To answer some questions, what did they do 30 years ago, well let me say that I was isolated from my friends, I could not function like my friends did and I struggled for many years. I wish now that some medication would have been available then. My parents tried everything and they were good parents so it had nothing to do with that, my sister did not have this condition. As an adult I tried all natural remedies, spent lots of money on them, read books about special nutrition, nothing worked. I am in my early forties and now take medicine which helps me so much. I sufffered all these years, my family and husband saw me thru all my down days. For the first time I feel good, I can start and finish my projects. My daughter has ADHD and tourette as well and I tried too the natural route but it got so bad I did not want her to go thru what I went thru for so long, and she is now on medication and she can now play with her friends go to the store and sit at her desk in class and finish her work, she is a bright child and very social but without it she was unable to keep her friends, she was called all kind of names. I want my daughter to have a happy life . Now if someday she tells me that she does not want to take her medicine, that will be fine and she can see if she can manage without it. Until you know someone or have a loved one in your family who is suffering from any neurological disorder, please refrain from commenting so harshly that we are bad parents or that we don't know what we are talking about.

        • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:20:33 PM

          Everyone has health-related skeletons in the closet, including me. Am not trying to sound higher or holier than thou. As a matter of fact I have reviewed the so-called science and clinical trials behind prescription meds, and worked with the dismal results firshand in a medical facility. Can you say the same?

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 8:13:14 PM

      P.S. Tera, how do you think you will feel decades from now when you have an obscure condition directly related to the drugs your parents and the doctors had you take from childhood into and including early adulthood? Will you say, "Oh well, Mom and Dad thought they were doing the best for me at the time," or will you wage a lawsuit against them and the clinic and the pharma company for completely ruining your life and health? Precisely how burned do you think you'll be when the light of truth finally dawns ... that you never did need the damned and unproven meds? In this litigious society, chances are you'll sock a rather unhealthy sucker punch to taxpayers and the medically insured population, I am sorry to say.

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 1:12:45 AM

    Cognitive Behavioral Therapy-------will never control ADHD nor bipolar-----these people suffer from a
    Major Chemical Imbalance that is Off The Charts-----people for the past 100 years have tried every thing
    and they all failed-----for some reason, we keep trying the same thing that Fails, and not looking for
    anything that can work------
    With 45 million mental ill in the US, let us not waste time on the thinks that Don't Work-----

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 1:04:50 AM


    Mentatpsi to answer your question:
    I consider your comments Harassment and Hate-----you don't even understand, a Major Chemical Imbalance will not be controlled with nutrition, nor exercise-----it can only be controlled with Meds or
    you must correct the chemical imbalance-------
    Going off and On Meds for a person with ADHD can kill him------make no mistake---ADHD is a Major
    Chemical Imbalance-----

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:58:17 AM


    Samantha Henig-----if you want to write a story, that will shock the World------go interview the doctors, and ask that everything be video taped, and perform a lie detector test on each doctor------
    We have many doctors today that are on drugs, and they are experiementing on mentally ill people----
    Finding a good doctor for a person with mental illness is very difficult----

  • Posted By: mentatpsi @ 07/15/2008 12:49:49 AM

    Psychskill is entitled to his opinion. ADHD is a problem but there is a spectrum to the disorder, not everyone undergoes a living hell and it is possible to regulate mild cases of ADHD with various alternatives such as CBT or proper nutrition and exercise rather than relying on a medication. Also, each individual responds differently to medications. It is wiser that people observe their child rather than use this article as a general rule to medicate. One could also use camp as a time to test alternatives methods (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for instance), knowing that the cognitive requirements of camp are much lower, as are the consequences.

  • Posted By: mentatpsi @ 07/15/2008 12:48:42 AM

    Psychskill is entitled to his opinion. ADHD is a problem but there is a spectrum to the disorder, not everyone undergoes a living hell and it is possible to regulate mild cases of ADHD with various alternatives such as CBT or proper nutrition and exercise rather than relying on a medication. Also, each individual responds differently to medications. It is wiser that people observe their child rather than use this article as a general rule to medicate. One could also use camp as a time to test alternatives methods (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for instance), knowing that the cognitive requirements of camp are much lower, as are the consequences.

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:48:12 AM


    Limmie -----I find your comments to be only a TEST-----and I'm looking at them as Harassment and
    Hate against the Mentally Ill People-----I suggest you stop

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:45:05 AM


    Limmie to answer your question:
    Stimulant medication------mood stabilizers, tranquilzers and sleeping pills----

    What do you call a stimulant medication-----

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:40:39 AM


    Linnie----to answer your comments----
    Remember ----you only have to live to witness the problem-----you don't have the problem-----

    It is like brother that has Cancer----yet you live to witness his pain----you are not the person with the problem.

    I realize it is a real bad to live with a person that is mentally ill-----don't ever think it is easy for the
    mentally ill person, that has to juggle drugs 24/7 just to balance his/her body chemistry. It is real hell for the
    mentally ill person-----they all want to live a normal life, they all want their life back-----they want to Party,
    they want to Drink, however on various medications this will not be possible-----

  • Posted By: missmt96 @ 07/14/2008 9:55:38 PM

    Oh, and not to mention these drugs have made him develop some really bad tics, he never ate or slept and is as skinny as a rail. Since I have him off the drugs he eats all the time. And this Aderol crap... People who do Cocaine do Aderol becasue it has similar effects... and we want to dope up young children on this?? Come on.... Maybe you drug forcing parents are the ones who need to take some pills to relax and have a little fun.

    • Posted By: linnie @ 07/15/2008 12:37:19 AM

      You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. People who have ADHD, react differently to stimulant medication . It calms them down.

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 10:07:04 PM

      P.S. the tics are perhaps father-related? ah ha, lol. Sympathizing and blessing y'all.

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 10:05:47 PM

      How is his sleep since being off the prescription drug cocktail? If your son needs help sleeping, try Melatonin. No side effects and no interreactions. It'll knock him out 30 minutes after taking just one and they are non habit-inducing.

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:30:43 AM


    Psychskill,
    What you fail to understand, I follow US Government Scientific Information to correct my chemical imbalance.
    Don't ever think I can do nothing and live------I had a Major Chemical Imbalance-----
    People for the past 100 years have tried everything to just control the bipolar persons chemistry-----it is a
    real ***----millions of people have failed-----even the doctors today must juggle many drugs, on bipolar
    people, it is a real ***-------
    Psychskill----you seem to doubt me------WHY?
    Psychskill-----what is your professional background, who are you-----why do you care about this topic?

  • Posted By: psychskill @ 07/14/2008 11:51:53 PM

    It's disgusting that ANY kid is given these drugs in the first place. ADHD is an incredibly clever way for pharmaceutical companies, in concert with their criminal cohorts, the psychiatrists, to sell drugs and turn kids into life-long customers. If you think the tobacco companies are dangerous, they are nothing compared to Eli Lilly and their ilk. The last thing any parent should do is listen to any psychiatrist or believe any of the crap that is promoted by these people AND Newsweek Magazine.

    • Posted By: linnie @ 07/15/2008 12:28:23 AM

      Do you have any idea what it is like to live with someone who has ADHD? I doubt it. You have to live it or live with it to truly understand all the complex feelings and emotions that go on. So don't tell me no child should be on ADHD medication.

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:19:05 AM


    Psychskill
    You show how dumb you are about the problem------45 million mentally ill in the US----
    We have a major problem in the US and you and others, don't even understand-------a Major Chemical
    Imbalance can and does kill a person, the ADHD people are living in real HELL----it is nothing to Joke About, nor make it look EASY to stop-----it is Real Hell------
    Your comments are totally Out Of Line----and a show of Harassment and Hate against all people suffering from mental illness.

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/15/2008 12:11:52 AM


    Psychskill----please shut up-----the ADHD people would be dead if they were not taking the drugs----
    the drugs Control the ADHD, it does do that-----it doesn't correct the Chemical Imbalance-----

    You are online TESTING people---you are more then likely working for a Drug Company or the Criminal Justice System-----so please go away, I consider your comments Harassment and Hate against the
    Mentally Ill People------

  • Posted By: Yellowcar @ 07/14/2008 11:46:49 PM

    45 million mentally ill in the USA---
    7 million 800 hundred thousand bipolar people
    millions of mental ill people in our jail systems
    900 million mental ill people in the World----
    and ME----
    One bipolar guy, not taking any drugs for over 4 years-----and not one person, calling me----not
    one person, asking me for HELP------not any government people calling me-----not any government
    people willing to TEST ME-----
    I say what I do can Help many of the mentally ill people today-----yet everyone will not even Listen To Me----
    Why?-----
    All I ask is WHY?
    Is it only that I'm bipolar, can't you ever not look at me as anything other then bipolar-----this is not a Stigma, this is only Harassment and Hate-----
    People don't want better for your people----you only want more MONEY----in support of LEGAL DRUGS----

  • Posted By: katterel @ 07/14/2008 10:57:57 PM

    How about we start with a little respect for these kids and use some person first language!
    Kids first, ADHD second.

  • Posted By: kit walters @ 07/14/2008 10:38:58 PM

    All "disorders" are products of the mind. they are very real, but that doesnt mean they are a bad thing. people were never meant to sit in chairs for 8 hours at a time. society has created medications that turn us into zombie worker bees. drones who mindlessly follow and eat from the hand of a corporate whore. wake up people, time is of the essence.

  • Posted By: urbanyouthprofessional @ 07/14/2008 10:34:16 PM

    As a professional who works with young people during the summer, I agree that "breaks" are needed from some medications in order to assess their effectiveness. However, I disagree with parents neglecting to inform youth professionals of their child's diagnosis and medical needs. What if that child has an adverse reaction to stopping the medications? Without the knowledge of the child's medical history, the youth professionals charged with the care of those chldren and the medical personnel called to their aid are at a distinct disadvantage. I can't even begin to count the number of children who exhibited behavioral disruptions and were labeled as "problem children". Once the parents were before the staff, they would usually admit that the child had a behavioral diagnosis and was off the meds for the summer. For the sake of your children and those who care for your children, please notify us of any special needs.

  • Posted By: #1 Mom @ 07/14/2008 10:29:45 PM

    julieanns paranoid much???????? If you haven't walked in the parents shoes (in other words don't have a child or relative with ADHD) you shouldn't just assume that its all enviromental. There is some debate that its heritary. There is also some debate that a long time ago, that ADHD was a way to survive, when living in this world meant more that video games, cell phones, etc....... Don't just assume that this is something that the mental health professionals or pharmacutial companies cooked up to make money. Its real very real. I hope you never have to deal with it. You try to concentrate with 500 different things going on in your head everyday and see how you act. Don't judge.

  • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:58:04 PM

    PRECISELY, missmt96. How much of this has to do with a parent's expectations of his or her offspring rather than the child itself? And Jenny McCarthy has hit on an eternal truth re: vaccines and the relationship to autism along with other nasty side-effects.

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