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  • Posted By: missmt96 @ 07/14/2008 9:49:36 PM

    My Son's father has him so doped up on all these ADHD meds... he is only nine. I got him for the summer and instantly tooh him off of them! He is nine... let him be a little boy. He has been just fine. Just being a typicl nine year old...

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:53:47 PM

      GOOD FOR YOU!!!! What a great example for this board, I just hope they listen to you.

  • Posted By: Yami @ 07/14/2008 9:48:24 PM

    Ur right it is disgusting. Jenny McCarthy actress/model says its all the vaccines, that is causing it, but her kid is autistic. A kid without meds, is dangerous. [safety issue]

  • Posted By: Yami @ 07/14/2008 9:20:17 PM

    Accident prone & disruptly/sillyness would be the major cause of not having my kid on the meds, during a holiday/summer break. Each child is different like everyone says. Jekyl & Hyde. My kid wakes up in the morning, he's like babyish and a goofball. When the meds kick-in, he's SHARP & FOCUSED! Like night n day.

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:23:49 PM

      And what, pray tell, is wrong with a young child being babyish and a goofball? Good Lord.

      • Posted By: Yami @ 07/14/2008 9:36:14 PM

        He's 19! LOL [not 4-12yrs] ...and should've outgrown it by now. Maybe when he's 30, he'll act 20. What was that one lady saying about ...oh its the enviroment, or the people around them. C'mon lady, the meds work. There's also some people that think its a sugar rush. [greenphotos@hotmail.com]

        • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:39:40 PM

          lol... maybe he's a late bloomer like I am? LOL

  • Posted By: deanosan @ 07/14/2008 9:35:44 PM

    It's digusting that kids are even medicated for being kids anyway. How could someone even write an article like this with a straight face?

  • Posted By: nimweekly @ 07/14/2008 8:24:42 PM

    I`m a mom of four kids and an RN. One of the boys was diagnosed with ADHD, with much difficulty during elementary. We were very reluctant to begin meds, but he was truly suffering. The medication helped a lot. Yes, some children may be misdiagnosed, but this is certainly not always the case. All children, like all adults, are different. And....some adults need treatments for illnesses they aren't aware of. Stay calm, folks.

    • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 8:35:32 PM

      In saying you were reluctant to begin that round of treatment for your suffering son, did you and your husband research any alternatives to prescription meds? Am guessing not due to your medical background... and what a shame is that. How do you suppose parents in days of old handle similar children and situations? Not with drugs, I can assure you... throughout ancient times it's been done naturally, without stimulants or depressants that do not alter a child's growth cycle or hormones or ability to bear children of their own one day.

      • Posted By: nimweekly @ 07/14/2008 8:58:41 PM

        As a matter of fact, we both did a whole lot of research. We tried many alternatives first. They were not effective for our child.
        Just for into.."natural". herbal supplements are drugs, as well. They aren't regulated by the FDA,, and contain differing amounts of substances which can sometimes be toxic, or interact with prescribed meds. This

        • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:02:27 PM

          Essential oils are not drugs, nor are herbs. Next.

          • Posted By: nimweekly @ 07/14/2008 9:26:28 PM

            They are drugs, and can be toxic, especially for a young child. They do cause chemical changes to the body. Some are totally useless and smell bad, just like the ones from the pharmacy! Some may possibly be helpful. Can't tell how much active ingredient you are getting, though.

            Please re-read the final two sentences of my first comment.

            • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:35:04 PM

              Only in the world of the federal-government funded FDA can an essential oil (no matter how bad it smells) be called toxic or dangerous. Any plant essence will cause a chemical change in the human body, period. The same reaction will happen from smelling a rose in a lovely flower garden as it does when the distilled oil enters the human bloodstream: reaction and voila, it is planned by a power far greater than I to happen that way. "Useless?" Never. Each plant and its properties have a devine purpose. Are you trying to draw a parallel between these and prescription medications? As for being dangerous for children, I think our Creator knows what was intended... and harm to our young is not part of the picture. YES the oils need to be diluted and different oils must be tried to find the one that evokes the reaction frustrated parents surely seek. What did you try??? And how many? From where did you get your sources for herbs or oils? It's only natural (forgive the pun) that you feel this way due to the medical education you received. God bless you and your family.

        • Posted By: julieanns @ 07/14/2008 9:05:46 PM

          Is it the natural substances interacting with the unnatural cheap knockoffs synthetically created in a lab to mimic the real thing or is it vice versa? And thank God the FDA has kept its paws off on regulating the natural substances created by God to heal humans who were created by God and not in a lab!!

  • Posted By: Yami @ 07/14/2008 9:31:24 PM

    He's 19! LOL [not 4-12yrs] ...and should've outgrown it by now. Maybe when he's 30, he'll act 20. What was that one lady saying about ...oh its the enviroment, or the people around them. C'mon lady, the meds work. There's also some people that think its a sugar rush.

  • Posted By: simplydanielle @ 07/14/2008 9:30:46 PM

    I see mean people have degrees too.

  • Posted By: Yami @ 07/14/2008 9:25:36 PM

    Comment: Accident prone & disruptly/sillyness would be the major cause of not having my kid on the meds, during a holiday/summer break. Each child is different like everyone says. Jekyl & Hyde. My kid wakes up in the morning, he's like babyish and a goofball. When the meds kick-in, he's SHARP & FOCUSED! Like night n day. [greenphotos@hotmail.com]

  • Posted By: Researcher44 @ 07/14/2008 9:10:15 PM

    It is likely that sitting in a classroom is the cause of ADHD. Children don't do that in the summer. There is a problem of human physiology and crowed business offices although unknown outside the Design field, it was discovered when it caused mental breaks for office workers, The cubicle was designed to stop Subliminakl Distraction exposure in offices by 1968.

    Too-close side-by-side seating creates similar circumstances to those crowded offices, This phenomenon is unknown by those who perform mental health services.

    Teachers and other school authorities are unaware that a concentrating child can subliminally detect the movement of others near them. That constant subliminal stimulation is the likely cause of ADHD.

    http://VisionAndPsychosis.Net

  • Posted By: NatalieF @ 07/14/2008 5:57:23 PM

    ADHD is a load of crap. It's an excuse for poor behavior from parents that don't discipline properly. Some parents won't be accountable for their kids or admit that they aren't doing a good enough job. It couldn't possibly be that "NO" isn't part of their vocabulary. Unfortunately it's only getting worse. Kids are more and more indulged by parents that will do anything to stop a tantrum from a kid that isn't getting their own way. It's sad. If kids can be taken away from parents for being overweight, then the same should apply for ones that aren't receiving proper parenting. Both are forms of child abuse.

    • Posted By: MF1987 @ 07/14/2008 8:50:01 PM

      Here Here! 20 yrs old here. At an early age I was taken to therapists when I was young. All the teachers thought I was mentally disabled. The therapist told my mom that I couldn't have been a busboy and wouldn't have been able to add up change. I was a slow learner ex: it took me a bit longer to walk than everyone else. Thanks to my mom she kept me away from the stuff and now I am I Real Estate agent preparing to go to College.

  • Posted By: ballplayer @ 07/14/2008 8:45:14 PM

    Anyone who thinks that it is in anyway Ok to put a child on such harsh and addictive drug should take a very close look at http://www.cchr.org/
    ADHD has long since been debunked. But there is too much big money to be made on the drugs, and it is too easy to dispense them rather than get to the actual cause of a child's suffering. There is no real science to this "chemical imbalance in the brain" malarkey (you always hear it along with "well, no one really knows what causes it...") If you can permanently cure a child by addressing the child and his environment directly, with no drugs, then a lack of enough drugs in his bloodstream is not the cause of the problem.

  • Posted By: ballplayer @ 07/14/2008 8:44:30 PM

    Anyone who thinks that it is in anyway Ok to put a child on such harsh and addictive drug should take a very close look at http://www.cchr.org/
    ADHD has long since been debunked. But there is too much big money to be made on the drugs, and it is too easy to dispense them rather than get to the actual cause of a child's suffering. There is no real science to this "chemical imbalance in the brain" malarkey (you always hear it along with "well, no one really knows what causes it...") If you can permanently cure a child by addressing the child and his environment directly, with no drugs, then a lack of enough drugs in his bloodstream is not the cause of the problem.

  • Posted By: missbee @ 07/14/2008 7:57:53 PM

    months out of the year during school and you expect them to listen and follow directions in a summer day camp which This article addresses whether children should be on medication to treat ADHD during summer camp, not whether they should be on the meds in the first place. It's wrong and judgmental to say that ADHD is caused by poor parenting, especially if you don't have children of your own. I've been teaching for 12 years with many summer spent as a counselor or camp director and I'll say this; If your child is on medication 9 is less structured and more dangerous than sitting in a classroom all day, you're ASKING for trouble. I'd like to see some of these people who commented spend a 10 hour day in the woods with 40 children let alone when 15 of those kids are off their meds for the summer.

  • Posted By: jane50071 @ 07/14/2008 7:49:08 PM

    My son's father believes like some of you that our son does not need the meds. So on his weekends he wouldnt give him ANY of his meds. Not just the ADHD one but the others too. My son would flip out in school on Tuesdays because it took 2 days for the meds to stop working. Yeah, so tell me he doesnt need em. After all of that, his father was convicted of felony child abuse for puting him and I in danger.

  • Posted By: Mystica @ 07/14/2008 10:57:32 AM

    (Loadthis) - Beating ADHD out of kids is behind the times. That is what they did in the old days. Now a days you give them meds. Have you even seen a kid with ADHD? I had it in the 70's when it wasn't even popular and I am female. I stopped taking naps at 9mo and my teachers wouldn't let me back in school unless I had medicine. Don't think you know everything because YOU haven't experienced it yourself. You sound naive and ignorant.

    • Posted By: Loadthis @ 07/14/2008 11:35:42 AM

      Who said anything about beating your kids? Is that what you tried to do?
      Well congrats on having it in the 70's when it wasn't "popular." Maybe if your parents would have raised you better your teachers wouldn't have hated you.

      • Posted By: jane50071 @ 07/14/2008 7:34:01 PM

        Since Loadthis obviously is here just to cause controversy.... I am ignoring him. I believe the topic is whether or not to take the kids off the meds for a break.... not whether or not we should put them on them in the first place. OUR KIDS>>> OURS not yours. We do not tell you how to raise your children, so therefore your opinion on how to raise mine falls upon deaf ears. Have a lovely day.

  • Posted By: whatswhat @ 07/14/2008 7:13:57 PM

    As a former camp counselor, let me say wholeheartedly NO! Your child should not be taken off meds without your doctor's consent and full disclosure to the camp. Camp is extraordinarily stressful for some kids and for many kids suffering from ADHD, the meds help them to be more socially aware and able to deal with difficult and unknown situations. Certainly a break from the medicine is a welcome idea, but parents who make that decision on their own endanger their own child, the camp and its employees, and other campers. The article makes a good point: can you really expect a young teenager or twenty something, working for minimum wage, to be able to handle your child off meds when you have already made the decision that you cannot?

  • Posted By: Morfop @ 07/14/2008 11:05:17 AM

    ADHD drugs are dangerous at any time - at school or at camp. Trouble sleeping and loss of appetite are the least of your worries when it comes to side affects. These drugs are given "black box" warnings by the FDA (their strongest warning) due to majorly dangerous effect such as depresion and suicide.

    There are many statitics showing the increase in incidents of suicide or attempts as suicide in children who are taking Ritalin, etc.

    While you think they placate your child and make him "focus" you are gently killing the spirit of your child in the name of "help". If you want him to focus, try cutting out sugary cereals in the morning, providing good nutrition and exercise rather than Fruit Loops and TV.

    • Posted By: jane50071 @ 07/14/2008 7:13:30 PM

      Funny thing, we don't eat fruitloops. We would rather have left over pizza and beer from the party your kid threw last night.

  • Posted By: mindofmyown @ 07/14/2008 11:17:18 AM

    Yellowcar and Loadthis.....are you both completely ignorant? How much research have you actually done on ADHD and bipolar? Do you know anyone personally that has either disorder? As a mother with bipolar and one son with ADHD, I have done exhaustive research and consulted with many experts (my job allows me to interact with many medical professionals). I am thankful my son has ADHD and not bipolar. Since he was recently diaganosed I will, of course, exhaust myself in research as to his course of treatment. What infuriates me is that you, and people like you, will continue the stigma of mental disorders that this world already has. Would you have the audacity to tell a cancer victim to stop the meds, or someone with diabetes their meds aren't important, they're just a joke?? This is not something we grow out of and of yet, there is no cure for either. If you are not fully informed, and I mean have the knowledge equal to that of a psychiatrist or neuropsychiatrist, then you need to keep you ignorance to yourself. I do, in fact have that knowledge, yet I continue on my meds because MY life depends on it as well as managing my son's ADHD. If it weren't for people like you, mental disorders would not be such a stigma in this country and maybe, just maybe, we could funds to do the research so desperately needed to help control mental disorders. Start researching if you want to debate with me.

    • Posted By: Loadthis @ 07/14/2008 11:27:10 AM

      You are trying to compare apples with cars. Cancer and Diabetes are physical disorders. ADHD in kids is the name given to diagnose hyper kids when there parents are to lazy to be a part of the kids life. It is an excuse to get the pharmacutical company to babysit your kid while you eat prozac and whatch reality TV.

      • Posted By: jane50071 @ 07/14/2008 7:11:43 PM

        Guess what, one part of the brain works faster than the other parts in ADHD. Considering our kids are probably smarter than you, go fly a kite.

      • Posted By: mom to four @ 07/14/2008 2:52:03 PM

        My son has a combination of medical issues and I feel you need to do a bit more research as not every parent of an ADHD child is lazy!! Lets stop the generalization and realize that it is a problem. Do a bit more research! I spent hours every day helping my son do tasks that for most children wouldn't be an issue, the school also had someone working one on one with him. He still had problems, we tried the medication and I am proud to say he made the honor roll and took several academic honors during the last semester of the school year. I don't take meds and I don't watch reality tv. Just like most people out there I work, take care of my children, and listen to the ignorance of people like you. Look the disease up do a little research and realize that people with your thought process are the ones that hold children behind that have any kind of mood/social disorder. Lets embrace the children not judge them.

      • Posted By: mom to four @ 07/14/2008 2:44:06 PM

        As a parent with a son whom has ADHD OCD and Tourette's syndrome I feel you are very unfair in your comment, I spend several hours a day with my son and I take no meds so tell me what I am doing wrong in having my son on medication. Before his meds he was constantly having problems with his school work and now that he is taking the meds he is on the honor roll and receiving academic honors. So please think about what you are saying before you generalize your comment to include all parents of ADHD children, maybe someone like yourself needs to research a bit before comparing your apples and cars!!!

  • Posted By: jane50071 @ 07/14/2008 6:26:52 PM

    NatalieF you should be taken away. My son in no way is spoiled. I AM a good parent. You have no clue what you are talking about. My sons issue isn't with tantrums its with not being able to sit in a chair for long periods of time without feeling like the world is crashing in on him. Before you leave hateful comments I suggest you do some hands on research.

    • Posted By: Margaret40 @ 07/14/2008 6:50:48 PM

      I second that Jane50071,

      People who do not know what their are talking about or who have not experienced it, should not be judgemental what so ever. I feel very sad that in our society people would be so cruel. I too am a good parent. My family have seen me not ever give in to my daughter's behavior, I used the proper discipline as I would have been expected as a parent and still we could not address or change her behavior.

      Any way I support you 100%. Our kids have the right to enjoy their life like every one else.

  • Posted By: austinmotel @ 07/14/2008 6:22:03 PM

    Hey NatalieF. You should be a little more informed before you put ignorant comments. The only reason I had my son on ADHD medication was because the teachers can't seem to handle kids these days anymore. We don't have him on it at home, because the PARENTS CAN HANDLE dealing with what is required to be an adult. My son isn't too overly excited but if you do some research you may find a few parents that don't slap their kids or whip them with the belt daily could use this medication if needed..in turn AVOIDING THE REAL CHILD ABUSE. Educate yourself a little.

    • Posted By: raiderh1 @ 07/14/2008 6:50:37 PM

      You might seriously rethink where your child is going to school if you feel forced to medicate your child just because your teacher whines. NOBODY is going to force me give mood altering drugs to my kids. I guess you will see how that little science experiment works for your kid.

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