The Guns of November

Cant we just have Obama give the Iranians a speech and the nuclear threat goes away? To my understanding, his speeches are what qualifies him for the presidency. Maybe he can make them feel all warm and fuzzy like the Obamabots.

Number of nuclear warheads
US 23,400
Israel 500
Iran 0
Iraq 0

Way to use NUCLEAR in the headline. It was a MISSILE test, not a Nuclear test. Yes the missiles could/probably be used with nuclear devices that the Iranians don't even have yet.

War? Sure, but it will be on Bush, Cheney, & McCain's heads if it does. All those of those retards constantly mention War & Iran in the same sentence. WOW SOUNDS JUST LIKE WHAT THEY DID TO IRAQ PRE_INVASION. McCain even made up a diddy so he could be a part of the group:
"Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran". Where is your article on that gem?

Americans would be outraged IF one of the two finalist for the Russia Presidency went around singing "Nuke, Nuke, Nuke, Nuke Washington"

What is Iran supposed to do? I don't like them, but there are Americans that I don't like but I find a way to get along. I don't antagonize them and goad them into a fight. We can kick the crap out of Iran any given day but does that we should? Have we become nothing but arrogant bullies? We have more cause to kick the crap out of Mexico, Colombia, & other Latin America countries that are destroying America by flooding us with illegal drugs and illegal immigrants but instead wehad a free trade agreement giveaway for them.

We're going to war because Israel wants it...know it, beleive it. Is there ANYTHING we won't do for Israel?
Can anyone tell me what we, as Americans, will get from winning in Iraq? If, in fact, we are winning as McCain says...what are we winning? What will we get? I'm asking was the Iraq war in OUR interest and what will we get when we win? Are we obligated to fight all of Israel's enemies, any where, any time and for all time? Who gave us this resposibility and who accepted it? Does our obligation to protect Israel ever end? Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons...many of them pointed at Iran. Isn't reasonable that Iran would want to acquire nuclear weapons also? Why not have Israel destroy their weapons and then Iran would not need them. It seems to me that as long as Israel has nuclear weapons, everybody is going to want nuclear weapons. Why is it that the US can't seem to get along with most big oil producing countries? Russia? Venzuela? Iraq? Iran? We can't get along with any of those countries...Why? We sure get along with Israel well...is it because they don't have oil? Can anyone answer these questions? Should we just listen to Bush/McCain/Leiberman or is there a better way?

The evidence,gleaned not from a ''Washington puppet'' but from the non-partisan IAEA indicates otherwise. These centerfuges of the newest generation have but one purpose and one purpose only. To create weapons-grade uranium. Iran denies that it is working towards the SHAHAB IV series multi-stage rocket which would place all of Europe and quite possibly,the American eastern seaboard into danger. Anaylists [JANES,Concerned Scientists],estimate that such an improvement could extend SHAHABS range to 12,000 miles. Difficult,but not impossible.
Obama is stupid to deny Poland,and other Euro states the means to insert missle defense systems that act deliberately as deterrent based on his mere suspicion that they do not work. [which is false. As we previously observed,during Obamas candicacy,two highly sucessful tests were carried out by the US Navy and Air Force in 2007 and 2008]. As foreign policy analyst Richard Fernandez[THE BELMONT CLUB] brilliantly observed today in the wake of the Iranian tests,such an introduction of a missle defense system places Cold War like ''ambiguity''into the mix. Khurschev,living in the age of MAD,literally did not know what Washingtons intentions would be.[''ignore the first letter,and answer the second''said Bobby Kennedy,then a portion of the EXCOM ''wise men''of October 1962].
The introduction of doubt in the minds of the Mullahs that a missle defense system COULD bring down its missles while in flight would introduce the ''ambiguity''to such a degree that they would reconsider, knowing that their misses,would bring total and complete devastation to their country. Kennedy made plain that muscular diplomacy would be backed by his nuclear fleet. It would be folly,as even Barbara Tuchman observed,to lend diplomacy backed by nothing. It is in Obamas interest to fully get on board a missle defense system that would give pause to the intentions of the Mullahs,and mollify Israel by inserting,as we did with PATRIOT batteries during the 1st Gulf War,such a deterrence that would ensure cold,rather than hot,war,while the diplomats hash things out.

1. Iran is NOT in violation of any international treaty or UN Resolution.
2. There is absolutely no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program.

That is it, end of story. It is unbelievable that Israel is allowed to keep threatening its neighbor and nothing is done about it. But this puppet regime of Washington gets a free pass for all its crimes.

The antiAmerican posters who come read NEWSWEEK never cease to amaze me. Iran tests missiles, develops nukes and sponsors all kinds of terrorism and, as always, it's AMERICA'S FAULT. But don't question the left's patriotism, right?

KKhan-

ahhh yea, its called propaganda. welcome to united states foreign policy on "rogue" or "dangerous" nations. OF COURSE IRAN IS GOING TO TEST MISSLES IF THE U.S. AND OTHER COUNTRIES SURROUNDING IT ARE THEATENING IT!!! its called defense, we would do the same if mexico and canada were threatening america with war and invasion. and if anyone is dumb enough to think that a country cant obtain nuclear war heads, if not from their own production but from oohh say...NORTH KOREA, than you are truly a dullard idiot. black market war people. if you have money, you get what you want, end of story. if iran cant produce they're own bomb, than whats to stop them from buying one from another country in secret?

The LAST thing we need is a war in another major Middle Eastern country. Iran is huge and it would be very difficult to "win" there - nor should the US let Israel dictate our foreign policies. I do not see how 1% of our total US population (Jews) get SO MUCH VOICE, at the expense of every other consideration. Israel has had nuclear weapons for ages, thanks to us. Now they want to go bomb Iran because it too is developing nuclear weapons? That doesn't even make sense.

If we go to war with Iran, the world economy will crumble as we see oil prices surge way beyond what they are today - get ready for oil at two or three times today's prices - $280 to $300 per barrel.

This will cause even more inflation of food prices, transportation of all goods, and lots more starvation around the world.

Since when have Americans been such war mongerers? We are the only country in the world conducting a major conflagration - two in fact - and now we're about to embark on a third, possibly?

Where are we getting the money, the human resources and the military support for such an endeavor? It's foolish talk, Bush-whacked, and terribly ill advised. Bush is a moron. Anything his administration advises should be avoided at all costs.

what the hell is going on, madness dudes, time for a new Woodstock . A little acid will cure the Muslims

Oh please; don't be a putz. There is no accidental run up to anything. US, Israel, Europe and most of the Arab nations are systematically pushing pushing pushing Iran to stumble so, together, we can more easily orchestrate the collapse of their authoritarian theocracy. Iran's latest little missile nonsense and the brash propaganda that came with it looks like the Ahmadinajad stumble is coming soon. At some point he and the mullahs will give the West, and the Arabs, the appropriate rationale to attack them in any number of ways from military to the paralyzingly extreme economic sanctions only possible once we are all officially at war with Iran. Iran knows this, and they are having problems coming up with any alternatives other than political buffoonery. So, if not this week then certainly in 18 months at the latest will be the end for them. Iran will certainly collapse within 18 months, at the longest, whether we actually bomb them or just keep them in a whirling internal storm of economic and political frenzy, of fear and threat, and of boastful and unsettling propaganda. Push push push, Push push Iran! Keep the pressure on. Then, if we keep our cool as we turn up their retaliatory hatred and seething anxiety , Iran will melt of its own internal heat and suffering.

When contemplating the military option we should consider the probability of success and the costs that will be incurred. Aerial bombing of Iran is a relatively low-cost option, at least in terms of American (and Iranian) lives. The economic and political costs (oil prices, international reaction, etc.) could be substantially higher, but it appears that McCain and others are prepared to accept these costs. However, most analysts seem to think aerial bombing will at best delay the Iranians, and in fact may actually accelerate their efforts. The only sure military option is invasion and occupation of Iran. The big question is, are we ready to invade and occupy a country with three times the population, four times the landmass, and five times the problems of Iraq? When contemplating the uncertain outcome of aerial bombing, and the near-certain costs of invasion, perhaps "a direct diplmatic overture from Washington to Tehran" might not look so bad after all.

It's funny how there wasn't this big uproar a few weeks ago when Israel had their own military exercise but as soon as Iran has an exercise to show that they are capable of hitting back, the US and the rest of the world have a sissy fit. Our response to Iran and lack of response to Israel once again shows our unvarnished bias. Why is it OK for the US, Israel and other countries to have war games and not Iran? ShouldDon't they they have they right