AFL-CIO Falsely Attacks McCain

if i ask for a million and you give me a penny after you voted down the million you cant say you voted for a increase mcane is a bush pupet

if i ask for a million and you vote not for it but a week later you vote in favor of giving me a penny that means you voted fo an increase how dumb do you think the public are

dkcloud357,

When all you do is state a bill and the vote, you really say nothing. What was in each bill?

For instance:
I researched Health Care for Veterans Amendment, HR 2863 S Amdt 1937 (10/05/2005) and on Senate Daily Digest 11101, it was stated that the amendment, though worthy, was subject to point of order under the Congressional Budget Act, Section 302(f). So, McCain voted against it BECAUSE it had to go through the mandatory process for expenditures (It HAD to be initiated by the HOUSE). His vote was based solely on procedures, and NOT on the worthiness of the amendment.

Would you rather that McCain not follow the rules established centuries ago as to which duties each House of Legislation had? Would that NOT be doing the same thing that Bush has been doing - inventing his own rules.

just what do expect out of a organized labor union ? they have thier own agenda's and are always left of center !!!

In my following post that I messed up and posted twice : NV following the Bill number = No Vote , N = No.

If you are going to call yourself FACTCHECK.org , the first thing you need to do is get your FACTS straight ' here is John McCain's voting record on Veteran's issues :
05/22/2008 GI Bill and Other Domestic Provisions
S Amdt 4803 NV Amendment Adopted - Senate
(75 - 22)
01/22/2008 Defense Authorizations Bill
HR 4986 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(91 - 3)
10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
HR 1585 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(92 - 3)
02/02/2006 Tax Rate Extension Amendment
HR 4297 N Motion Rejected - Senate
(44 - 53)
11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans Amendment
S 2020 N Motion Rejected - Senate
(43 - 55)
10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans Amendment
HR 2863 N Motion Failed - Senate
(48 - 51)

If you are going to call yourself FACTCHECK.org , the first thing you should do is make sure that your facts are accurate. Here is John McCain's voting record on Veteran's issues :
05/22/2008 GI Bill and Other Domestic Provisions
S Amdt 4803 NV Amendment Adopted - Senate
(75 - 22)
01/22/2008 Defense Authorizations Bill
HR 4986 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(91 - 3)
10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
HR 1585 NV Bill Passed - Senate
(92 - 3)
02/02/2006 Tax Rate Extension Amendment
HR 4297 N Motion Rejected - Senate
(44 - 53)
11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans Amendment
S 2020 N Motion Rejected - Senate
(43 - 55)
10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans Amendment
HR 2863 N Motion Failed - Senate
(48 - 51)

Actually you both are wrong , he ( McCain ) was against the Bill to increase Veterans Benefits. So he did not even vote on the Bill , he was fund raising in California on the day of the vote. So it seems that FASTCHECK.org needs to get its FACTS straight too.

McCain makes decisions based on what is best for America. He does not expect the government to pay for everything! As we all know, the government is funded by the taxpayers. Under Obama, we will be taxed until we no longer have a viable income, if he gets approval for all of the outlandish programs he wants to implement. I know, if we end the war we can all have extra monies out the wazoo. Count me in for the forty acres and a mule.

NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, I WILL STILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN. THESE
FROM REGISTERED DEMOCRAT WHO VOTED YEARS. I AM CHANGE MY MIND
AND WILL VOTE FOR MC CAIN

I've been waiting to see who the AFL CIO would endorse - It's just one more nail in Obama's coffin for me. AFLCIO regularly sells its members down the river to the highest bidder. Same old politics, same old games, same old politician.....

The following veterans group tracks John McCain's concerning our young veterans of today. His lack of support for their medical care is appalling. He even voted against more time at home between tours. He opposed the new GI bill for vets because he feels it may discourage re-enlistments rather than discourage high tech jobs being given to Halliburton employees that our troops want and desire to increase their skills and future. He didn't even show up for the vote. He runs on a platform of being a vet, yet doesn't support them.

http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/9559

Know why McCain wants to distance himself from former Senator Phil Gramm? It is not just because of Gramm's recent obnoxious remarks calling Americans "a nation of whiners" and that unemployed Americans are in "a mental recession." In fact, those remarks were so obnoxious that I wonder if they were engineered just to provide McCain an excuse for publicly distancing himself from Gramm. This issue is a lot deeper than it looks on the surface.

When Gramm was a Senator he was chair of the Committee on Banking, and in that capacity he was able to push through the legislation now known as the "Enron Loophole." This loophole allowed US investment banks to bypass the Federal regulations governing futures trading, and is the reason why the investment banks were able to falsely inflate the prices of oil, wheat, corn and other commodities through massive futures trading, causing your costs of gas, heating oil and food to go through the roof.

Gramm was a member of McCain's campaign team, but now Gramms' name is turning to mud. In addition to the Enron loophole, Gramm pushed through the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act in 1999, which got rid of the laws that seperate banking, insurance and brokerage activities in America. Essentially, this Act did away with all of the good laws written after the Great Depression to protect us from another Wall Street/Banking Industry collapse. That's right, Gramm stripped the system of it's safe guards nine years ago, and guess what? The value of the dollar has nose-dived, Wall Street is highly unstable, and we are in the midst of a recession.

Now you could say that this is not Gramm's fault, that he didn't know what the outcome of his actions would be. However, it turns out that the same investment banks that benefited from the Enron loophole and from the Gramm Act gave more than a million dollars to Gramm's campaign. Uh oh. A Congressional hearing is going to be convened to investigate this. And McCain wants to have noting to do with Gramm, wants us to forget that Gramm has been a key player on McCain's campaign team. Gramm was McCain's campaign CO-CHAIR and LEADING ECONOMIC ADVISER.

With Gramm in the driver's seat as his leading economic adviser, now you know why economists and analysts are saying that McCain's economic policy plans are untenable.

If this was against Obama, the kool-aid drinkers and media would be calling for McCain to control them. What a bunch of wusses.

How much did the leaders of the AFL-CIO receive to sell their union members down the river with all the free trade agreements, including NAFTA and the World Trade Organizaion membership. Why in the world WOULD any labor union continue to support the same politicians that gave away most of our manufacturing jobs? And, they continue to endorse the neoliberals. Too bad it wasn't just their own jobs that were exported, as they are the only ones who deserve to be unemployed - along with the neoliberals and neoconservations who voted (and still vote) for (un-American) free trade.

Thank You for getting the facts put out there...I am sick of all the lies...this is not what Americans want.